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Subject: enhancement: Link guix system and guix home
From: Dale Mellor
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I would like to be able to create a rescue disk for my system in which
the admin user's home directory contains a copy of an encrypted key,
for manually unlocking encrypted disk drives.
Following a short discussion in IRC, it appears the best route to
achieve this would be to link *guix system* and *guix home* together,
so that the system configuration file can specify
(user-account
...
(configuration (local-file "my-home-config.scm")))
for example (it should be possible to use either (home-configuration)
or a file-like object here).
Hopefully this is an easy thing to accomplish, but I don't know...
Thanks,
Dale
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Subject: Re: bug#56669: enhancement: Link guix system and guix home
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On 2022-07-20 11:47, Dale Mellor wrote:
> I would like to be able to create a rescue disk for my system in which
> the admin user's home directory contains a copy of an encrypted key,
> for manually unlocking encrypted disk drives.
>
> Following a short discussion in IRC, it appears the best route to
> achieve this would be to link *guix system* and *guix home* together,
> so that the system configuration file can specify
>
> (user-account
> ...
> (configuration (local-file "my-home-config.scm")))
>
> for example (it should be possible to use either (home-configuration)
> or a file-like object here).
>
> Hopefully this is an easy thing to accomplish, but I don't know...
>
Hi Dale,
it's not easy, but doable.
This topic popups from time to time, but this feature is not implemented
yet.
https://yhetil.org/guix-devel/20220706112011.77c71a94@marvid.fr/
I have spare time tomorrow and can try to implement it, however Idk how
much time will it take and if I don't finish tomorrow, there is no
guarantee that I'll finish it anytime soon.
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Best regards,
Andrew Tropin
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On 2022-07-20 20:57, Andrew Tropin wrote:
> On 2022-07-20 11:47, Dale Mellor wrote:
>
>> I would like to be able to create a rescue disk for my system in which
>> the admin user's home directory contains a copy of an encrypted key,
>> for manually unlocking encrypted disk drives.
>>
>> Following a short discussion in IRC, it appears the best route to
>> achieve this would be to link *guix system* and *guix home* together,
>> so that the system configuration file can specify
>>
>> (user-account
>> ...
>> (configuration (local-file "my-home-config.scm")))
>>
>> for example (it should be possible to use either (home-configuration)
>> or a file-like object here).
>>
>> Hopefully this is an easy thing to accomplish, but I don't know...
>>
>
> Hi Dale,
>
> it's not easy, but doable.
>
> This topic popups from time to time, but this feature is not implemented
> yet.
>
> https://yhetil.org/guix-devel/20220706112011.77c71a94@marvid.fr/
>
> I have spare time tomorrow and can try to implement it, however Idk how
> much time will it take and if I don't finish tomorrow, there is no
> guarantee that I'll finish it anytime soon.
I built home environment baked in operating system and sucessfully
deployed it with guix deploy. I face some issues with the similiar
setup on livecd, but I think I will figure out it soon and will publish
results in a few days.
The source code is here:
https://git.sr.ht/~abcdw/rde/commit/c5b4097ab99309ace23e40d957e9fa1f938f97e9
It's drafty and will be rewritten, also there are a few local commits
that I haven't sent to guix yet, but it should work without them if
elogind is enabled.
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On 21-07-2022 19:13, Andrew Tropin wrote:
The source code is here:
=
https://git.sr.ht/~abcdw/rde/commit/c5b4097ab99309ace23e40d957e9fa1f938f9=
7e9
What's the 'guix-home-gc-roots' for? I would expect the reference
#$(file-append he "/activate") to be sufficient to keep things
from being gc'ed.
+=
(start #~(make-forkexec-constructor
+ '(#$(file-append he =
"/activate"))
+ #:user #$user
+ #:environment-variab=
les
+ (list (string-append=
"HOME=3D" (passwd:dir (getpw #$user))))
+ #:group (group:name =
(getgrgid (passwd:gid (getpw #$user))))))
I'm wondering if GUIX_LOCPATH is needed as well. Anyway, if not
done already internally by /activate, you could consider doing it
in a container to reduce potential irreproducibility, or
insecurity on multi-user systems (I'd assume the #:user + #:group
to be sufficient for security, especially if it appears sufficient
for other system services, but I'm not some expert on what things
need to be set).
+=
(provision (list (symbol-append 'guix-home- (string->symbo=
l user))))
+ (one-shot? #t)
+ (auto-start? #f)
Wouldn't it then be possible for the user to login via the login
manager before initialisation has completed, as gdm etc don't wait
for guix-home-... currently?
Greetings,
Maxime.
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On 2022-07-21 19:25, Maxime Devos wrote:
> On 21-07-2022 19:13, Andrew Tropin wrote:
>
>> The source code is here:
>> https://git.sr.ht/~abcdw/rde/commit/c5b4097ab99309ace23e40d957e9fa1f938f=
97e9
>
> What's the 'guix-home-gc-roots' for? I would expect the reference=20
> #$(file-append he "/activate") to be sufficient to keep things from=20
> being gc'ed.
It was needed while I was testing manual activation without shepherd
service, not needed anymore, already removed it locally.
>
>> +=20
>> =20
>> (start #~(make-forkexec-constructor +=20
>> =20
>> '(#$(file-append he "/activate")) +=20
>> =20
>> #:user #$user +=20
>> =20
>> #:environment-variables +=20
>> =20
>> (list (string-append "HOME=3D" (passwd:dir (getpw #$user)))) +=20
>> =20
>> #:group (group:name (getgrgid (passwd:gid (getpw #$user))))))
> I'm wondering if GUIX_LOCPATH is needed as well. Anyway, if not done=20
> already internally by /activate, you could consider doing it in a=20
> container to reduce potential irreproducibility, or insecurity on=20
> multi-user systems (I'd assume the #:user + #:group to be sufficient for=
=20
> security, especially if it appears sufficient for other system services,=
=20
> but I'm not some expert on what things need to be set).
>
It's not set by /activate.
>> +=20
>> =20
>> (provision (list (symbol-append 'guix-home- (string->symbol user)))) +=20
>> =20
>> (one-shot? #t) +=20
>> =20
>> (auto-start? #f)
> Wouldn't it then be possible for the user to login via the login manager=
=20
> before initialisation has completed, as gdm etc don't wait for=20
> guix-home-... currently?
You are right, the same as the first one, needed for more manual
approach, changed to #t, thank you.
Three patches for this service to work is on the way on guix-patches.
In the meantime, will try to build livecd with the home environment
inside.
P.S. Probably this system service is far from final version of this
feature, I still think about making home-environment a part of
user-account. Will evaluate pros and cons, after I get livecd built
successfully.
=2D-=20
Best regards,
Andrew Tropin
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Subject: Re: bug#56669: enhancement: Link guix system and guix home
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On 2022-07-26 12:23, Andrew Tropin wrote:
> On 2022-07-21 19:25, Maxime Devos wrote:
>
>> On 21-07-2022 19:13, Andrew Tropin wrote:
>>
>>> The source code is here:
>>> https://git.sr.ht/~abcdw/rde/commit/c5b4097ab99309ace23e40d957e9fa1f938=
f97e9
>>
>> What's the 'guix-home-gc-roots' for? I would expect the reference=20
>> #$(file-append he "/activate") to be sufficient to keep things from=20
>> being gc'ed.
>
> It was needed while I was testing manual activation without shepherd
> service, not needed anymore, already removed it locally.
>
>>
>>> +=20
>>> =20
>>> (start #~(make-forkexec-constructor +=20
>>> =20
>>> '(#$(file-append he "/activate")) +=20
>>> =20
>>> #:user #$user +=20
>>> =20
>>> #:environment-variables +=20
>>> =20
>>> (list (string-append "HOME=3D" (passwd:dir (getpw #$user)))) +=20
>>> =20
>>> #:group (group:name (getgrgid (passwd:gid (getpw #$user))))))
>> I'm wondering if GUIX_LOCPATH is needed as well. Anyway, if not done=20
>> already internally by /activate, you could consider doing it in a=20
>> container to reduce potential irreproducibility, or insecurity on=20
>> multi-user systems (I'd assume the #:user + #:group to be sufficient for=
=20
>> security, especially if it appears sufficient for other system services,=
=20
>> but I'm not some expert on what things need to be set).
>>
> It's not set by /activate.
>
>>> +=20
>>> =20
>>> (provision (list (symbol-append 'guix-home- (string->symbol user)))) +=
=20
>>> =20
>>> (one-shot? #t) +=20
>>> =20
>>> (auto-start? #f)
>> Wouldn't it then be possible for the user to login via the login manager=
=20
>> before initialisation has completed, as gdm etc don't wait for=20
>> guix-home-... currently?
>
> You are right, the same as the first one, needed for more manual
> approach, changed to #t, thank you.
>
> Three patches for this service to work is on the way on guix-patches.
> In the meantime, will try to build livecd with the home environment
> inside.
>
> P.S. Probably this system service is far from final version of this
> feature, I still think about making home-environment a part of
> user-account. Will evaluate pros and cons, after I get livecd built
> successfully.
Sorry for the long status update, some life moments are happened.
Polished all the things on Guix Home side and I can confirm that the
service works correctly and it's possible to make home-environments a
part of operating-system record.
Current very simple implementation works relatively good. It accepts a
list of ("user" . home-env) pairs and creates a shepherd services, which
activate respective home environments.
https://git.sr.ht/~abcdw/rde/tree/9175c7b37b6861095bae4a696aa1faadf9dc572a/=
src/gnu/services/home.scm#L1
This is how sway graphical environment activation is implemented in rde-liv=
e image.
http://files.trop.in/rde/
I still find it not completely satisfying because activation happens
when one-shot shepherd service get started and not during system
activation, which leads to the problem mentioned by Maxim: you can login
into user's shell before home-environment activated. I would like to
just extend system activation with calls to home activation scripts, but
it's not that straightforward because we depend on user-homes (which is
a shepherd service).
That said the guix-home system service works fine and you can already
use it, but before merging it to Guix I would like to move home
activations into system activation, which requires some work on
user-homes. It doesn't seem to be a big task, but still require some
dedication and IDK when I get spare time for it. Let me know if this
feature blocks you in some way, otherwise I'll keep working on it in my
own pace.
=2D-=20
Best regards,
Andrew Tropin
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