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29.0.50; Wishes: to use delete-by-moving-to-trash, but not with Tramp? or .dir-locals.el with Tramp

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 29.0.50; Wishes: to use delete-by-moving-to-trash, but not with
 Tramp? or .dir-locals.el with Tramp
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 02:10:59 +0300

How to use the variable `delete-by-moving-to-trash', but not with
Tramp?

On local computer I have use to put files first in Trash directory.

But on remote computer I cannot wait for transfer of large files from
remote to local computer.

And other issue is if `.dir-locals.el' works locally, why it does not
work remotely?

If .dir-locals.el would work remotely, then I could disable
`delete-by-moving-to-trash'.

Or instead of it, then Tramp need also variable like:

tramp-delete-by-moving-to-trash which may default to
delete-by-moving-to-trash

as that way user is able to disable deleting by moving to Trash for Tramp.


In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 11, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo version 1.17.6, Xaw3d scroll bars)
 of 2022-06-25 built on protected.rcdrun.com
Repository revision: 040c03cae2db361d2e014a52d969a6b0ebc48f1c
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Message #8 received at 56511 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support>
Cc: 56511 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#56511: 29.0.50; Wishes: to use delete-by-moving-to-trash,
 but not with Tramp? or .dir-locals.el with Tramp
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 15:05:14 +0200

Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support> writes:

> How to use the variable `delete-by-moving-to-trash', but not with
> Tramp?

As the doc string of move-file-to-trash says:

If the function `system-move-file-to-trash' is defined, call it
 with FILENAME as an argument.

So just define a function that checks whether FILENAME is a Tramp file
name or not, and delete the file if it is, but trash otherwise.

So I don't think there's anything to be done here on the Emacs side, and
I'm closing this bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #15 received at 56511 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support>
Cc: 56511 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#56511: 29.0.50; Wishes: to use delete-by-moving-to-trash,
 but not with Tramp? or .dir-locals.el with Tramp
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 16:13:59 +0200

Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support> writes:

Hi,

> And other issue is if `.dir-locals.el' works locally, why it does not
> work remotely?

From the Emacs manual (info "(emacs) Directory Variables")

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
To avoid slowdown, this search is skipped for remote files.  If needed,
the search can be extended for remote files by setting the variable
‘enable-remote-dir-locals’ to ‘t’.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Best regards, Michael.

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