From unknown Sun Aug 17 22:08:13 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#56507 <56507@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#56507 <56507@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Suggestions for the "Options" menu Reply-To: bug#56507 <56507@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 05:08:13 +0000 retitle 56507 Suggestions for the "Options" menu reassign 56507 emacs submitter 56507 Stefan Kangas severity 56507 wishlist thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 11 21:49:48 2022 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2022 01:49:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41279 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oB524-0001kE-5H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2022 21:49:48 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:48324) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oB522-0001k5-3R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2022 21:49:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33814) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oB51z-0005Qc-OO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2022 21:49:45 -0400 Received: from mail-pg1-f182.google.com ([209.85.215.182]:36734) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oB51y-0000vM-6b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2022 21:49:43 -0400 Received: by mail-pg1-f182.google.com with SMTP id s206so6281567pgs.3 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2022 18:49:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=ce5rMAgMgwvqBZ6MW3zFKpP/1jWYcJUBVRjB0Best24=; b=Dfu2vqzB7sllDRBIRwNs4B7rKBNdQuO6Xm3R0qSvg7WJdCbL0ngc4yBkHuC7Heur1C wTYt+GCvOh3E9OFZLX1J0THyj5OQHIAzf80M9aE3onKIrf+fiFB15UNovQTpB/cRjBuV 3xi3JJRF4zizBDNoRfOHlLHc0VmgrrkwDi3Wo+14CTfGI2OCongbsEgUTWhbZ7qyJQv/ KTjzx0+KYEp6zzzfXicmXLKJPnWwt9gPU5Z9jLibiNJgSBpXQPk7J8aJdLzb8GTZooYp y/Aghrp88yOAz/npCGEurBl7/kxo4g5MSGCyEnCnY5xmcOUeVe/QsSqrHLqek3/CWZ5m AJOw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora8gxRPasx3erL3g6ufhSh8ufegrNu1vSmTspzOMoiWeb1U1kcvl zovzOeXmT7+PMxUsc+GJpkgQDPg89fw4boA+R/33cLaQ X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1ueAgSymcBUxYO5eBLHcMelQaM65VvVZNt/FBih+HA7KoGox11CGzRB3ho2+wUKzTELLzogQonjQpUxkyYSvDw= X-Received: by 2002:a63:ed48:0:b0:40d:9866:6834 with SMTP id m8-20020a63ed48000000b0040d98666834mr18230749pgk.324.1657590580582; Mon, 11 Jul 2022 18:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Mon, 11 Jul 2022 20:49:39 -0500 From: Stefan Kangas MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2022 20:49:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Suggestions for the "Options" menu To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.215.182; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pg1-f182.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) Severity: wishlist Suggestions for the "Options" menu: 1. Remove "Highlight Active Region". 2. Remove "Blink Cursor". For both of these, this is the standard behavior in almost any text editor, and any user that wants to customize them can and will do it without the menu. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 11 22:35:19 2022 Received: (at 56507) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2022 02:35:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41342 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oB5k7-0002yL-3b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2022 22:35:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55444) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oB5k4-0002y4-BZ for 56507@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2022 22:35:17 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33576) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oB5jj-0006ne-51; Mon, 11 Jul 2022 22:35:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=6zjfxSNfxc729xvahxJKcyfQ46wMK2xPJqbNHXRGrjw=; b=HsGNidmG/lM3 HonGCigowt0LAxM/NhZnCF5JORC/ubE8vEq2d2Aj/6gygkfc9FGxnoUdKLqg+N28rsO8SjYUZfef4 TFOp3wHbpUE3ST/xkoTQtrX7zOXVuoGrIQeu1hMNJe0Rx97lRYzyi4RmzUENlgRjq+gjtuMEZawqH i9uZUAVxpIk4ed3gu33CWO9Utfhpax7q/rPRV9Y/vAHJ6WSoE+bU1R75zzapJs7jDNdXjiWKkoHGb qtG0gvaIkWVzHC2hPphm0aa4pGWNHHHFwi0zI2iztJBZJEKFOgH1CSyGP/Y8sDQZUvklt/QPrFOKg hx4BMdr4o1k5OqdFM+g8fw==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3285 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oB5jh-00012t-Sb; Mon, 11 Jul 2022 22:34:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 05:34:42 +0300 Message-Id: <83y1wzxdml.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Mon, 11 Jul 2022 20:49:39 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#56507: Suggestions for the "Options" menu References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56507 Cc: 56507@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2022 20:49:39 -0500 > > Suggestions for the "Options" menu: > > 1. Remove "Highlight Active Region". > > 2. Remove "Blink Cursor". > > For both of these, this is the standard behavior in almost any text > editor, and any user that wants to customize them can and will do it > without the menu. Cursor blinking control is definitely not standard. Anyway, I object to changing this on these grounds, because by this logic we could remove any setting from that menu. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 022649be5d22555d395808a6cf9e2f8b; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 06:50:27 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#56507: Suggestions for the "Options" menu References: <83y1wzxdml.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 14:50:19 +0800 In-Reply-To: <83y1wzxdml.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 12 Jul 2022 05:34:42 +0300") Message-ID: <87bktuygd0.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20407 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 352 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56507 Cc: Stefan Kangas , 56507@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Cursor blinking control is definitely not standard. > > Anyway, I object to changing this on these grounds, because by this > logic we could remove any setting from that menu. Agreed. I think there is also at least one other program on my system where "Blink Cursor" is in the options (or perhaps file?) menu. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 12 04:23:22 2022 Received: (at 56507) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2022 08:23:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41590 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oBBAw-0006Kv-IQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 04:23:22 -0400 Received: from relay12.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.232]:41613) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oBBAv-0006Kj-70 for 56507@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 04:23:21 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C9E5920000C; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 08:23:13 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov To: Stefan Kangas Subject: Re: bug#56507: Suggestions for the "Options" menu In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Mon, 11 Jul 2022 20:49:39 -0500") Organization: LINKOV.NET References: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 10:58:35 +0300 Message-ID: <86k08i4ut8.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56507 Cc: 56507@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > 2. Remove "Blink Cursor". > > For both of these, this is the standard behavior in almost any text > editor, and any user that wants to customize them can and will do it > without the menu. None of the text editors that I tried has a blinking cursor by default. Maybe because they use the system settings where I disabled cursor blinking in Keyboard preferences. So this menu item could be removed not sooner than Emacs will respect these system settings as well. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 12 07:42:25 2022 Received: (at 56507) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2022 11:42:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41767 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oBEHZ-0005Mk-5c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 07:42:25 -0400 Received: from forward501j.mail.yandex.net ([5.45.198.251]:43516) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oBEHV-0005MR-Iq for 56507@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 07:42:22 -0400 Received: from iva5-057a0d1fbbd8.qloud-c.yandex.net (iva5-057a0d1fbbd8.qloud-c.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:c0c:7f1c:0:640:57a:d1f]) by forward501j.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 5AA5E623BC3; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 14:42:13 +0300 (MSK) Received: by iva5-057a0d1fbbd8.qloud-c.yandex.net (smtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id eofCvXgedL-gBhGUxfK; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 14:42:12 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) X-Yandex-Fwd: 1 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1657626132; bh=FWTfqq8Hc83riC0gq1nLnFKmd7yixvf6v9WuuzLEr9o=; h=Message-ID:References:Date:Reply-To:In-Reply-To:Cc:To:Subject: From; b=WpEbwo3eLvUBWarRt2LfImszGB1/O55zWSoaaviCfiXV/9gv0lfwB1LnXg14S/8mQ j3AfPovJWs7mgIEW2fPbPu2wIdzFsY3Pwjoz4vJBqPYKmWS+fYdTaJYg2Cj6Up8cF1 WB2HO/1SLY8oCTjLcP8BlqVMD8Sh/RkCS5suYQ7A= Authentication-Results: iva5-057a0d1fbbd8.qloud-c.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com From: Colin Baxter To: Juri Linkov Subject: Re: bug#56507: Suggestions for the "Options" menu References: <86k08i4ut8.fsf@mail.linkov.net> X-Face: BHjiJOg/Qmj'BQgsAKL@])L)e62P)C"Y=6T Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 12:42:10 +0100 In-Reply-To: <86k08i4ut8.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Tue, 12 Jul 2022 10:58:35 +0300") Message-ID: <875yk2pnfx.fsf@yandex.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.1 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAEkAAAATAgMAAAChCMjeAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAACVBMVEX/zAABCWP///8I RHjYAAAAAWJLR0QCZgt8ZAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB+UFEAk5BvqS634A AAAbSURBVBjTY2BgCA1hYA0FAxDDgQEERsXoIAYA2F9Eb3cpB+AAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRl ADIwMjEtMDUtMTZUMTA6NTY6MTcrMDE6MDCh/kkpAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIxLTA1 LTE2VDA5OjU3OjA2KzAxOjAwTyZ6HwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56507 Cc: Stefan Kangas , 56507@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: m43cap@yandex.com Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >>>>> Juri Linkov writes: >> 2. Remove "Blink Cursor". >> >> For both of these, this is the standard behavior in almost any >> text editor, and any user that wants to customize them can and >> will do it without the menu. > None of the text editors that I tried has a blinking cursor by > default. Maybe because they use the system settings where I > disabled cursor blinking in Keyboard preferences. So this menu > item could be removed not sooner than Emacs will respect these > system settings as well. Please don't remove Blink Cursor from the Menu bar. I set the cursor to blink via my ~/.emacs; however, I often want to stop temporarily the cursor from blinking and this I do this via the menu. Why remove something that has worked well over the years? Who gains? Best wishes Colin Baxter. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stefan Kangas writes: > Suggestions for the "Options" menu: > > 1. Remove "Highlight Active Region". > > 2. Remove "Blink Cursor". > > For both of these, this is the standard behavior in almost any text > editor, and any u [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56507 Cc: 56507@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Stefan Kangas writes: > Suggestions for the "Options" menu: > > 1. Remove "Highlight Active Region". > > 2. Remove "Blink Cursor". > > For both of these, this is the standard behavior in almost any text > editor, and any user that wants to customize them can and will do it > without the menu. I think the point here is to have an easy way to disable both of these things (since both are things that many people find annoying), so I'd rather keep them in the menu. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 12 10:04:29 2022 Received: (at 56507) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2022 14:04:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43297 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oBGV3-0001nI-AK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 10:04:29 -0400 Received: from mail-pf1-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169]:43928) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oBGV1-0001my-GZ for 56507@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 10:04:28 -0400 Received: by mail-pf1-f169.google.com with SMTP id b9so7551098pfp.10 for <56507@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 07:04:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=6z1gyKzgedBWc5VKe6bo8XOR3fcehIMhOD4Jui59Zqc=; b=X/Lw8Z5trz/cD0j84XdaY2UgjzkUDRJ5uF89F12n0BUQ8rK5t5hIClDr9WwAxlBz13 y1L9SpV640org3LWDpczjTmKZB8eXPrFnjH6YG3gpxBZ5S1BolRkVJVDB9BoT8jD37SD wiSnyfGHLIAFtCoKPm4MRF1rH84TyVb8jgqh1BLDw5QV9Yi4PkALbS/d1Ju0wpnLuo6N d7iyaLmWbA4oUXzWNcRFi95KKrpPPrduudOZ16z3NSl2bic3hJTwRQ88AIe3tMME7II/ MSMhB1fgI2+lCC8OOKektacZ7fHruIzvfjMhOoQ7hE8gCGF4DI8C1s6NgIlT2tMOQILl b8dw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora9zNTGL/xGhLamhs4/hnPKEVJUl8+2iRwaqB9xCQvrXMW6QLVbb OLwk7Zu4I980v6pHZ2owQ1ocJSTkL/3Ij8JjoXs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1sVzgY2m5H0Ye+PA7/fVtUgcY9rUehLrlkPYatTy+Ji14K7EF1GPO7WMnWEoP+1Voi4pqgZQC5uxtPUFLM3kG4= X-Received: by 2002:a63:8ac1:0:b0:412:b11b:c635 with SMTP id y184-20020a638ac1000000b00412b11bc635mr21051769pgd.592.1657634661522; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 07:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 09:04:21 -0500 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <87bktuxyi0.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87bktuxyi0.fsf@gnus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 09:04:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#56507: Suggestions for the "Options" menu To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56507 Cc: 56507@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Stefan Kangas writes: > >> Suggestions for the "Options" menu: >> >> 1. Remove "Highlight Active Region". >> >> 2. Remove "Blink Cursor". >> >> For both of these, this is the standard behavior in almost any text >> editor, and any user that wants to customize them can and will do it >> without the menu. > > I think the point here is to have an easy way to disable both of these > things (since both are things that many people find annoying), so I'd > rather keep them in the menu. How about moving these two items to "Options -> Show/Hide"? They seem to fit in well with the other items in that submenu. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stefan Kangas writes: > How about moving these two items to "Options -> Show/Hide"? They seem > to fit in well with the other items in that submenu. Hm... perhaps -- we've got things like Tooltips under Show/Hide which is in the same class as Blinking Cursor, sort of. But only sort of. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56507 Cc: 56507@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Stefan Kangas writes: > How about moving these two items to "Options -> Show/Hide"? They seem > to fit in well with the other items in that submenu. Hm... perhaps -- we've got things like Tooltips under Show/Hide which is in the same class as Blinking Cursor, sort of. But only sort of. I think I prefer to keep those options as is. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 12 10:39:06 2022 Received: (at 56507-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2022 14:39:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43412 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oBH2L-0002lZ-Tl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 10:39:06 -0400 Received: from mail-pj1-f47.google.com ([209.85.216.47]:45846) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oBH2J-0002lI-NY for 56507-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 10:38:52 -0400 Received: by mail-pj1-f47.google.com with SMTP id q5-20020a17090a304500b001efcc885cc4so8204244pjl.4 for <56507-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 07:38:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Kqz9F+SQvmQDIPGPqO4hiRUlD3MdUXN/boe+JCmX3+c=; b=OvwY8O/jHKSIaAtta/HU9kzsM8qlHuqHJksTWFcsf7HxOaRv9+yQIsibJzwKIOlLw5 maRORXHHMZTh5l6FDUVGgWEuUgT3bfjfTrragbvKDWVQPGKQNOWjTs/EJvJvts/Zy3qQ 5e+sIEB+8q5+Grc1EgRvYgc5zCbYEGtBR7Oz+BCvafXWhbcwHzwj4WdXsRqL24ejbjOx yZXKMklLNwLsEA7/3s5p0ibDrByP0sHWtcsfKfveXFUh5YVVOm9LRWBE3uroY+8nqArK WP3eqY3NqqhmBRHJY1aSAVM/XYRwU/9SSPOFlHOlIuXe0f6Zd98cHhmF880ad1aWKkoZ JLWA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora/oppAv3+eyoa16ulO+VzM8niFEJL2gpcOZRU+96DXkxnt+k1EY /L8SAhJ3pK8UtZmYbeb6sox9mvJ3tvJBalEWyKY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1vRXS8Jiq73I44KjvegW1zY2WeVPfOxzNnpxXd6SaQWcXhJGOiYPlhu+6Di/XsLE9f9Pi40mkpahEb94pJymts= X-Received: by 2002:a17:903:244c:b0:16c:594b:3f4a with SMTP id l12-20020a170903244c00b0016c594b3f4amr4950861pls.145.1657636725966; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 07:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 09:38:45 -0500 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <87tu7mv2v9.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87bktuxyi0.fsf@gnus.org> <87tu7mv2v9.fsf@gnus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 09:38:45 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#56507: Suggestions for the "Options" menu To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56507-done Cc: 56507-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > I think I prefer to keep those options as is. I guess we won't make more progress here so I'm closing the bug. Thanks for considering my suggestions. From unknown Sun Aug 17 22:08:13 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 11:24:06 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator