From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:41:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#56464: browse-url.el supports both Firefox *and* Mozilla? 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Is there even a web browser called "Mozilla" around these days that is separate from "Mozilla Firefox"? If not, should `browse-url-mozilla' be deprecated? From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:41:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#56464: browse-url.el supports both Firefox *and* Mozilla? Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2022 17:51:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 56464 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Kangas Cc: 56464@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 56464-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B56464.165738905925367 (code B ref 56464); Sat, 09 Jul 2022 17:51:01 +0000 Received: (at 56464) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2022 17:50:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35872 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oAEbb-0006b5-Lx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2022 13:50:59 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:33579) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oAEba-0006av-HM for 56464@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2022 13:50:59 -0400 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4LgHkT1fXTz1s75G; Sat, 9 Jul 2022 19:50:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4LgHkS5qMpz1qqkg; Sat, 9 Jul 2022 19:50:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HQWcdkKpQ-sn; Sat, 9 Jul 2022 19:50:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: fqixnCXT5VYtPvBli19wqqHDjJHBvactuw86Wf0KtJ2KMY/XM+y9iez8WCQFJGpP Received: from igel.home (ppp-46-244-177-181.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.177.181]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Sat, 9 Jul 2022 19:50:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8C7E42C35E9; Sat, 9 Jul 2022 19:50:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab References: X-Yow: YOW!! The land of the rising SONY!! Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2022 19:50:55 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Sat, 9 Jul 2022 08:59:25 -0700") Message-ID: <87sfnauqdc.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.1.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) On Jul 09 2022, Stefan Kangas wrote: > Is there even a web browser called "Mozilla" around these days that is > separate from "Mozilla Firefox"? Apparently mozilla was the name of Netscape browser after it was open sourced, before the Phoenix browser (now known as Firefox) was developed from it. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:41:06 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Stefan Kangas Subject: bug#56464: closed (Re: bug#56464: browse-url.el supports both Firefox *and* Mozilla?) Message-ID: References: X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 56464 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 56464@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 11:10:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1657451402-1104-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1657451402-1104-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #56464: browse-url.el supports both Firefox *and* Mozilla? which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 56464@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 56464: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D56464 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1657451402-1104-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 56464-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jul 2022 11:09:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36342 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oAUos-0000HF-F2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 07:09:46 -0400 Received: from mail-pl1-f176.google.com ([209.85.214.176]:34624) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oAUoq-0000H3-LO for 56464-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 07:09:45 -0400 Received: by mail-pl1-f176.google.com with SMTP id z1so2283976plb.1 for <56464-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 04:09:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=czMo61pJp9qcxF3cyJZQV6jKMuWJCWsvtgBfZfR8Rvg=; b=0odEyHRpFbxHhZaxbyd0CBZLD+juljLW35aFaKiO5MJeaJJBU1qEx/pkYZhSn53lF0 R24ZIAgHpfAlTfQW8c/pbBcHxfIcPPZ9W0UsojpZUQYt0zTMBgnBi86U7yzOAEv4ESmK pscpzZAL5PoRdOjCkhyqDh9d8qyvpeWhxrybIkXhR6vQaLDYPIN4PY5jKHEL4sY92gcd ygd3NiIvW+Zas+Zj18qn4XOiJhblVIKdFvd2hER0ibroKNzMaTLFFiDJvoLYXMGNpLrT WnA8TfPpIbz5wed6HcZwH3lbRCIw7PAkh60f5EkrAk29FMmGZ0mz5z6J//dQyWkJ7pLS CSxw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora/NEUqoAL59md8K7VJCYgXavZ0Un2OdsOvhBcR2YgKMaXUtIlEZ uFKOxckWDI5FtFNTBFFabFjb0Ew2t1Ufj8KZaGcJ4p+j X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1t1FTliGPqTDBJrhG6kgOzcOumlZJVzB33upaZYijd/HyY55XmS2Nohoglz59xjV2T9gybdM3XCvldhWeoUNos= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:896:b0:1ef:935c:f326 with SMTP id bj22-20020a17090b089600b001ef935cf326mr11071139pjb.193.1657451378856; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 04:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 04:09:38 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <87sfnauqdc.fsf@igel.home> (Andreas Schwab's message of "Sat, 09 Jul 2022 19:50:55 +0200") References: <87sfnauqdc.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 04:09:38 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#56464: browse-url.el supports both Firefox *and* Mozilla? To: Andreas Schwab Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56464-done Cc: 56464-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Andreas Schwab writes: > On Jul 09 2022, Stefan Kangas wrote: > >> Is there even a web browser called "Mozilla" around these days that is >> separate from "Mozilla Firefox"? > > Apparently mozilla was the name of Netscape browser after it was open > sourced, before the Phoenix browser (now known as Firefox) was developed > from it. This seems correct, according to Wikipedia.[1] I also can't find any package named "mozilla" in Debian, Redhat, Guix, Arch, etc. So I've now obsoleted that support on master (commit 86dc875bf5). 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To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.214.175; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pl1-f175.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) Severity: minor browse-url.el has both `browse-url-mozilla' and `browse-url-firefox'. Is there even a web browser called "Mozilla" around these days that is separate from "Mozilla Firefox"? If not, should `browse-url-mozilla' be deprecated? ------------=_1657451402-1104-1--