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[PATCH] Make gujarati-itrans method more phonetic

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From: Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: [PATCH] Make gujarati-itrans method more phonetic
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2022 10:14:58 +0530

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Tags: patch
X-Debugs-Cc: kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com

In a private exchange I had with Kashual Modi (CC'ed), I learnt that the
translations for ઋ and ૠ should be RRu and RRU respectively since they
are pronounced as ru and not ri (the current translations are RRi and
RRI respectively).  This is also reflected in the table found in the
Vowels section in the wikipedia link here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gujarati_script#Gujarati_letters,_diacritics,_and_digits.

Attached patch adjusts the gujarati-itrans translation table to make it
a bit more phonetic by following the above (and also fixes a typo I made
in my last patch).

Thanks.

[0001-Make-the-gujarati-itrans-more-phonetic.patch (text/x-diff, attachment)]

Message #8 received at 56414 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: समीर सिंह Sameer Singh
 <lumarzeli30 <at> gmail.com>
To: Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 56414 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#56414: [PATCH] Make gujarati-itrans method more phonetic
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2022 11:03:18 +0530

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Not only Gujarati, I think languages like Marathi (uses Devanagari script),
Konkani (uses Devanagari and Kannada script), Kannada and Telugu also
pronounce ऋ as ru and ॠ as ruu.

Therefore instead of introducing a new table we should simply add more
options in the pre-existing indian-itrans-v5-table, like we have already
done for something like ज्ञ which is pronounced
as "gya" in Hindi and "dnya" in Marathi.

Something like:
1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
lisp/language/ind-util.el | 4 ++--

modified   lisp/language/ind-util.el
@@ -315,8 +315,8 @@ indian-itrans-v5-table
   '(;; for encode/decode
     (;; vowels -- 18
      "a" ("aa" "A") "i" ("ii" "I") "u" ("uu" "U")
-     ("RRi" "R^i") ("LLi" "L^i") (".c" "e.c") "E" "e" "ai"
-     "o.c"  "O"   "o"   "au"  ("RRI" "R^I") ("LLI" "L^I"))
+     ("RRi" "R^i" "RRu" "R^u") ("LLi" "L^i") (".c" "e.c") "E" "e" "ai"
+     "o.c"  "O"   "o"   "au"  ("RRI" "R^I" "RRU" "R^U") ("LLI" "L^I"))
     (;; consonants -- 40
      "k"   "kh"  "g"   "gh"  ("~N" "N^")
      "ch" ("Ch" "chh") "j" "jh" ("~n" "JN")


On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 10:16 AM Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> Tags: patch
> X-Debugs-Cc: kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com
>
> In a private exchange I had with Kashual Modi (CC'ed), I learnt that the
> translations for ઋ and ૠ should be RRu and RRU respectively since they
> are pronounced as ru and not ri (the current translations are RRi and
> RRI respectively).  This is also reflected in the table found in the
> Vowels section in the wikipedia link here
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gujarati_script#Gujarati_letters,_diacritics,_and_digits
> .
>
> Attached patch adjusts the gujarati-itrans translation table to make it
> a bit more phonetic by following the above (and also fixes a typo I made
> in my last patch).
>
> Thanks.
>
>

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Message #11 received at 56414 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
To: समीर सिंह Sameer Singh
 <lumarzeli30 <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 56414 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#56414: [PATCH] Make gujarati-itrans method more phonetic
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2022 11:34:51 +0530

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[புதன் ஜூலை 06, 2022] समीर सिंह Sameer Singh wrote:

> Not only Gujarati, I think languages like Marathi (uses Devanagari script),
> Konkani (uses Devanagari and Kannada script), Kannada and Telugu also
> pronounce ऋ as ru and ॠ as ruu.
>
> Therefore instead of introducing a new table we should simply add more
> options in the pre-existing indian-itrans-v5-table, like we have already
> done for something like ज्ञ which is pronounced
> as "gya" in Hindi and "dnya" in Marathi.
>

Sounds good to me.

Revised patch attached.

[0001-Make-the-Indian-itrans-methods-more-phonetic.patch (text/x-diff, attachment)]

Message #16 received at 56414-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 56414-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, lumarzeli30 <at> gmail.com
Subject: Re: bug#56414: [PATCH] Make gujarati-itrans method more phonetic
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2022 09:48:22 +0300

> Cc: 56414 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2022 11:34:51 +0530
> 
> [புதன் ஜூலை 06, 2022] समीर सिंह Sameer Singh wrote:
> 
> > Not only Gujarati, I think languages like Marathi (uses Devanagari script),
> > Konkani (uses Devanagari and Kannada script), Kannada and Telugu also
> > pronounce ऋ as ru and ॠ as ruu.
> >
> > Therefore instead of introducing a new table we should simply add more
> > options in the pre-existing indian-itrans-v5-table, like we have already
> > done for something like ज्ञ which is pronounced
> > as "gya" in Hindi and "dnya" in Marathi.
> >
> 
> Sounds good to me.
> 
> Revised patch attached.

Thanks, installed.

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