From unknown Wed Jun 18 00:25:58 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#56030 <56030@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#56030 <56030@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: The guix pull profile is too big Reply-To: bug#56030 <56030@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 07:25:58 +0000 retitle 56030 The guix pull profile is too big reassign 56030 guix submitter 56030 Julien Lepiller severity 56030 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 17 01:50:01 2022 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jun 2022 05:50:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43549 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o24rp-0002Xc-9k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2022 01:50:01 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:54524) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o24rm-0002XN-Ia for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2022 01:50:00 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43942) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o24rd-000327-Lu for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2022 01:49:53 -0400 Received: from lepiller.eu ([89.234.186.109]:38580) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o24rX-0004B3-Ry for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2022 01:49:49 -0400 Received: from lepiller.eu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lepiller.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 036726c0 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2022 05:48:30 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=lepiller.eu; h=date:from :to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=dkim; bh=7V+FhLRhvlyt0ymhz9+gBqrwn qsCLqysaXjFm3U4Y60=; b=QOh3GqiEeQnWGI7AJvvz0yOqQ4j3GSHy7xaZcBI4G CpdciWt1v8lUAremWSE1ZEPhLQJqbwVnqPAnJxq9iztvsiRQg7QU8TNtqrk0hkXh ZSqtJVP3KYrkzFgGGlfWHkNBUS8tuCLXioHQjsDCtxplxSSuK39b9KHJZzFxFdXy gqn0Lkyy5TKUPcl00CdUsDFs4FakmMO8ws+qKEsdj1S0P/GtDAzNx2ONrH2gAnCb ZobykeMbnO6EY4NiGGQ1mawjSnrDswHMk21YTMIZcGKYf/gqmuNqD0ZFuSNVexO9 TimWVR+iQhhRqIoF302Xhjp1SPTL/OIyYFykaaTCFNyNw== Received: by lepiller.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 841d6743 (TLSv1.3:AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO) for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2022 05:48:30 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2022 07:48:28 +0200 From: Julien Lepiller To: bug-guix@gnu.org Subject: The guix pull profile is too big User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android Message-ID: <2C6CCC4B-BC71-4CA4-9B7B-086C14713DCD@lepiller.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----OJMFAH88D55M4M081TLXKBTXP4E1B0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=89.234.186.109; envelope-from=julien@lepiller.eu; helo=lepiller.eu X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) ------OJMFAH88D55M4M081TLXKBTXP4E1B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Guix! I figured out this morning that my guix pull profile ("current") was more = than 1GB=2E Looking at the closure, I found a few oddities=2E There's gcc in there, which is the second most important contributor after= guix-*-modules (150 MB)=2E It's referenced by gcc-toolchain, itself only r= eferenced by the guile-wrapper we build in (guix self)=2E Can we get rid of= it? There are three versions of guile (50 MB each)=2E Can we settle for only o= ne? Then maybe less important because they're small: There are two libffi, gzip, zlib, libgc, bash-minimal, xz, pkg-config and = libunistring=2E We have bash-minimal and bash-static=2E The latter is a bit bigger than th= e former=2E Maybe we can keep only bash-minimal? ------OJMFAH88D55M4M081TLXKBTXP4E1B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Guix!

I figured out this morning that = my guix pull profile ("current") was more than 1GB=2E Looking at the closur= e, I found a few oddities=2E

There's gcc in there, which is the seco= nd most important contributor after guix-*-modules (150 MB)=2E It's referen= ced by gcc-toolchain, itself only referenced by the guile-wrapper we build = in (guix self)=2E Can we get rid of it?

There are three versions of = guile (50 MB each)=2E Can we settle for only one?

Then maybe less im= portant because they're small:

There are two libffi, gzip, zlib, lib= gc, bash-minimal, xz, pkg-config and libunistring=2E

We have bash-mi= nimal and bash-static=2E The latter is a bit bigger than the former=2E Mayb= e we can keep only bash-minimal? ------OJMFAH88D55M4M081TLXKBTXP4E1B0-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jun 26 17:20:54 2022 Received: (at 56030) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jun 2022 21:20:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49258 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o5Zgb-00049o-P0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2022 17:20:54 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35440) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o5Zga-00049c-P4 for 56030@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2022 17:20:53 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53802) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o5ZgU-0006ha-IC; Sun, 26 Jun 2022 17:20:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:To: From; bh=UfmVH864dnB9G9/1+TkPzoocSQkkJ6Ke597ly3veJ1s=; b=dtZZlnBdcFiJl1rJmk9z 30gq/jiaJlWKKvLzWyEp3N5yjWhx5RtPmGAuIf1pg9zlzqow7vhDOdAiN4pd7OAae3/xWh+djGGsQ X9kP+ousL1vHRVYy8B/xVU/g7QPZPRRwoU+nt4xdP89o44XLLbcVPd9r3aqJJj+AcXBsQ5bVGPm+E lrfoUUJnSsxtpjxXgY3MV79yVbNJfzA76Mg1aqDNWrPaEqW65KKl5z/gkMU5004oXZzgZOr04oNgC xgtmv7MSkQfksKTPJzbujPofIKRQFWGjZrN10swbjDyfT7tS9E4qLgwdDeHc1BpZahhGWmE7j6ED6 u8HME3KP5wwq3w==; Received: from 91-160-117-201.subs.proxad.net ([91.160.117.201]:58245 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o5ZgU-0004NV-5I; Sun, 26 Jun 2022 17:20:46 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Julien Lepiller Subject: Re: bug#56030: The guix pull profile is too big References: <2C6CCC4B-BC71-4CA4-9B7B-086C14713DCD@lepiller.eu> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 23:20:44 +0200 In-Reply-To: <2C6CCC4B-BC71-4CA4-9B7B-086C14713DCD@lepiller.eu> (Julien Lepiller's message of "Fri, 17 Jun 2022 07:48:28 +0200") Message-ID: <87h747qfyr.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56030 Cc: 56030@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) Hi, Julien Lepiller skribis: > I figured out this morning that my guix pull profile ("current") was more= than 1GB. Looking at the closure, I found a few oddities. Specifically: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ guix describe Generation 219 Jun 20 2022 09:40:20 (current) guix 73761d8 repository URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git branch: master commit: 73761d8049f483e6685c2c736872d0366e03238a $ guix size $(readlink -f ~/.config/guix/current) store item total s= elf /gnu/store/rfkyfhdj3zq6lzlw7n0y5m36pdcfd2s7-guix-73761d804-modules 554.6 = 220.8 27.5% /gnu/store/249mczqf0jv55a7df9v3a3314mrwjg61-guix-packages-base 123.9 = 123.9 15.5% /gnu/store/1jgcbdzx2ss6xv59w55g3kr3x4935dfb-guile-3.0.8 130.0 = 53.0 6.6% /gnu/store/cnfsv9ywaacyafkqdqsv2ry8f01yr7a9-guile-3.0.7 129.1 = 52.0 6.5% /gnu/store/jv3gkqapz7fxgpjzp7g6rlpfl3fb2pq9-guix-system 51.2 = 51.2 6.4% /gnu/store/5h2w4qi9hk1qzzgi1w83220ydslinr4s-glibc-2.33 38.3 = 36.6 4.6% /gnu/store/cwxfvi0890wwmhigk84iiq1dh64x0ac9-guix-packages-base-source 34= .2 34.2 4.3% /gnu/store/094bbaq6glba86h1d4cj16xhdi6fk2jl-gcc-10.3.0-lib 71.7 = 33.4 4.2% /gnu/store/3db8s5gn3srsdrzrdz4d0xpxpfhlb3h5-guix-extra 25.7 = 25.7 3.2% /gnu/store/bnsf9il448hl5xjavbhq3rcx355svz2v-glib-2.70.2 98.1 = 15.3 1.9% /gnu/store/mw3py6smb1pk8yx298hd9ivz9lzbksqi-glibc-utf8-locales-2.33 13.9= 13.9 1.7% /gnu/store/7nlzk7n90ib3llblxlpz725ym3k05gdj-util-linux-2.37.2-lib 80.7 = 9.0 1.1% /gnu/store/pyaxxsi4207awhpppqf1br6gl03k47pz-guix-package-cache 6.4 = 6.4 0.8% /gnu/store/cyx97f0bx4nki07l52jzw3lng0mzcdcv-guix-cli-core 6.4 = 6.4 0.8% /gnu/store/2rdmiv3k11qxz13fjq5bipljwjz0r6ws-guix-manual 6.0 = 6.0 0.8% /gnu/store/9rrnm5hdjw7cy96a2a9rfgh6y08wsbmf-ncurses-6.2.20210619 77.6 = 5.9 0.7% /gnu/store/zl9wf0zwq2ka9rpmayp53hnp2mn460xf-gnutls-3.7.2 143.4 = 5.6 0.7% /gnu/store/xgp23kc3v9w7l10grjwd0n1a74v3fhx3-openssl-1.1.1n 77.2 = 5.5 0.7% /gnu/store/il571kvl9fs08xag4hyg6x8hm57akscm-guile-git-0.5.2 100.5 = 5.2 0.6% /gnu/store/dyd5gaxzrngl6m9clniq5y1r7yl463h1-guix-system-tests 4.3 = 4.3 0.5% /gnu/store/fg76cjzdk413dfkx50fkcwd3wpbyfpi1-pcre2-10.37 84.6 = 4.0 0.5% /gnu/store/ffynx7n76vb5rby4b14yjcacqwq1w70h-mit-krb5-1.19.2 82.2 = 3.9 0.5% /gnu/store/v06gnr579r0jmr36aha3wkbd1y27ccg7-disarchive-0.4.0 139.1 = 3.8 0.5% /gnu/store/x1jd7pqfn9ilb6x97azcfq1fhjr63p0z-p11-kit-0.23.22 76.4 = 3.4 0.4% /gnu/store/xmzx5mzv4863yw9kmr2ykndgp37p8if0-sqlite-3.36.0 82.3 = 3.2 0.4% /gnu/store/x1x1sw727g7ls93av3i27mkd90s4wgd7-guix-home 3.2 = 3.2 0.4% /gnu/store/jkd4zlfq4rph31xazz132cf0skg6km00-guix-cli 3.1 = 3.1 0.4% /gnu/store/v8raqm2shh9azkl71107p53j55hir306-libxcb-1.14 75.3 = 3.0 0.4% /gnu/store/ssfq7hv5bhas830cs29fk271brcn3vqi-guile-lib-0.2.7 2.9 = 2.9 0.4% /gnu/store/g2ajyl8xk9aarxrgjbng2hkj3qm2v0z2-tar-1.34 75.6 = 2.9 0.4% /gnu/store/fa43ijbrb96x08621qigxxiphp503lsi-libx11-1.7.3.1 78.2 = 2.8 0.4% /gnu/store/fwbiihd2sbhai63y1pvvdh0f2bakfzrf-gmp-6.2.1 74.4 = 2.7 0.3% /gnu/store/yqr33jyy81fdqmr8rd4gvbpisbad2w2l-guix-extra-source 2.5 = 2.5 0.3% /gnu/store/4rqq5sl8n85ywfwqdv0f1xjaw9vhgl8k-guix-system-source 2.4 = 2.4 0.3% /gnu/store/hkhbq2q1gfs970gsp2nhsmcqb4vmv2xr-libunistring-0.9.10 74.0 = 2.3 0.3% /gnu/store/f058zn04xla5jndkhxl0s20pbl61bckq-guile-bytestructures-1.0.10 = 2.1 2.1 0.3% /gnu/store/n0sd9hghs18pjsj72023r1spa9wxccc2-libevent-2.1.12 73.8 = 2.1 0.3% /gnu/store/m7vwbbsy3pkpi4rpdnvr8m4jc8y36ckn-libgit2-1.3.0 95.4 = 2.0 0.2% /gnu/store/xggzgd4xwsy5p02wdfngk67j7zpp91gb-guile-ssh-0.15.1 144.9 = 1.9 0.2% /gnu/store/03g49nffc73vrmx5180p4fhr3z4mfk0z-avahi-0.8 111.8 = 1.7 0.2% /gnu/store/r08q5kq8hy5621y3yk0c7zrxb9s514z4-guix-locale-guix 1.7 = 1.7 0.2% /gnu/store/720rj90bch716isd8z7lcwrnvz28ap4y-bash-static-5.1.8 1.7 = 1.7 0.2% /gnu/store/di5bqb45hi5lvp2q08hlxqjdcl9phjb1-pcre-8.45 73.4 = 1.7 0.2% /gnu/store/wcwls45278gzpjvwlvrrs1y7h30g44xh-readline-8.1.1 79.0 = 1.4 0.2% /gnu/store/3kl94m3ksm45a880b6lnn3kagk857lj9-libgcrypt-1.8.8 75.1 = 1.4 0.2% /gnu/store/60jl4xry9c93j9l0rr7nkvbw7dihjz4k-guile-gcrypt-0.3.0 76.5 = 1.4 0.2% /gnu/store/3x3dl71d4xm6y4hjwq110hmfyfx0xc6j-zstd-1.5.0-lib 72.9 = 1.2 0.2% /gnu/store/2b3blhwbag1ial0dhxw7wh4zjxl0cqpk-pkg-config-0.29.2 72.8 = 1.1 0.1% /gnu/store/yl859fgb86zgl0zsvbhxdpms945aazip-dbus-1.12.20 79.6 = 1.1 0.1% /gnu/store/aggsb6j1svxp70xlll4rqnx5f2pzz794-xz-5.2.5 73.7 = 1.1 0.1% /gnu/store/c8isj4jq6knv0icfgr43di6q3nvdzkx7-xz-5.2.5 73.7 = 1.1 0.1% [=E2=80=A6] /gnu/store/vjf3hvajws01wmm5rwbkgw7z0jvl6v3h-guix-command 788.6 = 0.0 0.0% /gnu/store/hsynjf6csram52x9ampnb90ysdbipdk2-emacs-subdirs 0.0 = 0.0 0.0% /gnu/store/yyqqi3kp61r9sjqhhay85in0h5s8dzs8-guix-daemon 789.4 = 0.0 0.0% total: 802.0 MiB --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- 50% goes into Guix modules. There=E2=80=99s prolly room for improvement be= cause the =E2=80=98guix-COMMIT-modules=E2=80=99, which is #1, is actually the uni= on of all the other guix-*-modules. > There's gcc in there, which is the second most important contributor afte= r guix-*-modules (150 MB). It's referenced by gcc-toolchain, itself only re= ferenced by the guile-wrapper we build in (guix self). Can we get rid of it? I think you fixed that one in 319b8331b2357e12ec9edb9665513c32bef56622. \o/ > There are three versions of guile (50 MB each). Can we settle for only on= e? I think that=E2=80=99s (@ (gnu packages commencement) guile-final), guile-3= .0, and guile-3.0-latest. However I see only two of them here. --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ guix graph --path -t references $(readlink -f ~/.config/guix/current) /gn= u/store/1jgcbdzx2ss6xv59w55g3kr3x4935dfb-guile-3.0.8 /gnu/store/njzk97pz238fcjjpjk2vzdv5rgs6s54v-profile /gnu/store/vp1m80lj2g6391xi95f056yra7xfb47i-guix-73761d804 /gnu/store/vjf3hvajws01wmm5rwbkgw7z0jvl6v3h-guix-command /gnu/store/1jgcbdzx2ss6xv59w55g3kr3x4935dfb-guile-3.0.8 $ guix graph --path -t references $(readlink -f ~/.config/guix/current) /gn= u/store/cnfsv9ywaacyafkqdqsv2ry8f01yr7a9-guile-3.0.7 /gnu/store/njzk97pz238fcjjpjk2vzdv5rgs6s54v-profile /gnu/store/vp1m80lj2g6391xi95f056yra7xfb47i-guix-73761d804 /gnu/store/yyqqi3kp61r9sjqhhay85in0h5s8dzs8-guix-daemon /gnu/store/cnfsv9ywaacyafkqdqsv2ry8f01yr7a9-guile-3.0.7 $ head -3 /gnu/store/yyqqi3kp61r9sjqhhay85in0h5s8dzs8-guix-daemon #!/gnu/store/cnfsv9ywaacyafkqdqsv2ry8f01yr7a9-guile-3.0.7/bin/guile --no-au= to-compile !# (begin (setenv "GUIX" "/gnu/store/vjf3hvajws01wmm5rwbkgw7z0jvl6v3h-guix-com= mand") (unless (getenv "GUIX_STATE_DIRECTORY") (setenv "GUIX_STATE_DIRECTOR= Y" "/var/guix")) (unless (getenv "GUIX_CONFIGURATION_DIRECTORY") (setenv "G= UIX_CONFIGURATION_DIRECTORY" "/etc/guix")) (unless (getenv "NIX_STORE_DIR")= (setenv "NIX_STORE_DIR" "/gnu/store")) (apply execl "/gnu/store/jmqzsqpgnx= rvzpdyx4dglvz9f40b81xm-guix-daemon-1.3.0-27.598f728/bin/guix-daemon" "guix-= daemon" (cdr (command-line)))) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Fixed this one in commit d418031a8cbdea4e2bc5c52ea1b29ad369579bae. But then, =E2=80=98guile-3.0=E2=80=99 being the default, it=E2=80=99s used = in a number of places, like: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ guix graph -t references --path /gnu/store/6f58rzr1xi8h43l6l8gsm4paravqnn= jz-guix-20220626.13 /gnu/store/cnfsv9ywaacyafkqdqsv2ry8f01yr7a9-guile-3.0.7 /gnu/store/6f58rzr1xi8h43l6l8gsm4paravqnnjz-guix-20220626.13 /gnu/store/00kkky8qxa73qv8g8y60y5gjz0l4hpmk-guix-command /gnu/store/m3pdqa0crnvblllvkdjbda42k0rwxn9c-guix-module-union /gnu/store/v06gnr579r0jmr36aha3wkbd1y27ccg7-disarchive-0.4.0 /gnu/store/cnfsv9ywaacyafkqdqsv2ry8f01yr7a9-guile-3.0.7 --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- I can=E2=80=99t think of a good solution to this. > Then maybe less important because they're small: > > There are two libffi, gzip, zlib, libgc, bash-minimal, xz, pkg-config and= libunistring. > > We have bash-minimal and bash-static. The latter is a bit bigger than the= former. Maybe we can keep only bash-minimal? That=E2=80=99s probably due to the fact that there are multiple Guile varia= nts; annoying. It=E2=80=99s worth keeping in mind that thanks to deduplication, this costs= much less than it seems in terms of disk space, but it does cost in terms of bandwidth usage. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. 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On 17-06-2022 07:48, Julien Lepiller wrote:
We have bash-minimal and bash-static. The latter is a bit bigger than the former. Maybe we can keep only bash-minimal?

bash-static is used by glibc (for the 'system' function), it's not something that can simply be replaced with bash-minimal (due to the cycle bash-minimal -> glibc -> bash-minimal that would result). I do have a proposal eliminating the bash-static reference though:

  • replace the 'system' function from glibc by a variant that accepts the file name of the shell executable
  • Add a macro '#define system ...' that calls this variant and inserts __guix_bin_sh as the shell executable
  • In the build system, look for bin/sh in the inputs.=C2=A0 If it= exists, add -D__guix_bin_sh=3D/gnu/store/.../bin/sh to
    CFLAGS or such.

Greetings,
Maxime

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Since, as far as I can see, does not give the implementation license to implement system(3) as a macro. We could do ``` int system(const char *command) { return __guix_run_in_shell(command, __guix_bin_sh); } ``` though. -- ( From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 21 11:12:19 2022 Received: (at 56030) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2022 15:12:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38621 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oEXqd-0005no-3C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2022 11:12:19 -0400 Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([178.21.23.139]:57268) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oEXqb-0005nd-FY for 56030@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2022 11:12:18 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by disroot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E4040E1E; Thu, 21 Jul 2022 17:12:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: SPAM Filter at disroot.org Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (disroot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with UTF8SMTP id XlU5Q_gG_1i9; Thu, 21 Jul 2022 17:12:14 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=disroot.org; s=mail; t=1658416316; bh=Xh3oPpyOiavgZXKUr65szSvzcLhMse7I5HNbZ3MF0vg=; h=Date:To:Subject:From:References:In-Reply-To; b=Syxz9GrtM+H0FOogZDe0JpMpRqtG7puDjqR//Gu/WJaQFARUBUlBPdNlEwTvTgnS6 TZrUo/+yPvxGH+DNdc1kBgQM8pnjmTlBwJfpi18d0+Bpu8NyRh/W/fyApBJ3W3w5IF dtBCffleXWKDt+QLDGKcACNeBhR09qX4cK8qmagEtBtEC3iqteebk7YrF6tN4cL6bW KK7xCXUPWcSo4zV4jHF0nFge+93mcw9R5XGbb4T9Ie1noLalvXSfSK+w3FlGaZpDr6 xMRr3Tp20XcDYnkfeSqA11SfLQwVC4yukldiEpJlRf1AM/VR+3XNfBlnYixwqv0TOn OD1iOu2NYcA3Q== Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2022 16:11:56 +0100 Message-Id: To: "Maxime Devos" , "Julien Lepiller" , <56030@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Re: bug#56030: The guix pull profile is too big From: "(" References: <2C6CCC4B-BC71-4CA4-9B7B-086C14713DCD@lepiller.eu> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56030 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) And considering the definition of system(3) in glibc: @ sysdeps/posix/system.c (took me way too long to find this; glibc's source code is a maze ;)) ``` #define SHELL_PATH "/bin/sh" /* Path of the shell. */ #define SHELL_NAME "sh" /* Name to give it. */ ``` couldn't we just use `-DSHELL_PATH=3D/gnu/store/...`? -- ( From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 21 11:38:44 2022 Received: (at 56030) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2022 15:38:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38687 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oEYGC-0000GO-Je for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2022 11:38:44 -0400 Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([178.21.23.139]:44776) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oEYGA-0000GE-4L for 56030@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2022 11:38:42 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by disroot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF43440DBC; Thu, 21 Jul 2022 17:38:40 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: SPAM Filter at disroot.org Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (disroot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QaggPv-NOURb; Thu, 21 Jul 2022 17:38:40 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=disroot.org; s=mail; t=1658417919; bh=at0rQdGnpgXgzEIgDDi2LAsma7vBB/I2ES4vigI1h6Q=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:References:In-Reply-To; b=OeNDB/HhIcpbiyq+KFx0CwwxLU4/xarteff2ifFRSbrXJzOycgSzpNt8+htW1ZYHu 4uUQbZ/UVjLWkFZm76RLhVrKQwLFBXp2gJOQfnUzaGqU/xgHfh10gk8J7V+gQfn/0h qpO0jD0tarKC3JbntChu9FlBilXM+EPeCNNXEP0FtR1JRksvLnmLO2zD/qXOcN81Bw CwybqO4jz59Ni+Anqi+QD7Fvk7rapiQSr+TXMp8PgnHi4v1LFUa5FPmhrTKjXw27tk CUJH9ejWbpf/fT8jEtrJGIptpXurEi7+BwwqQV6IvaS0CfOtPvV5YyKsHxecd8KtBv OO/tlHpzqmfbg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2022 16:38:39 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: bug#56030: The guix pull profile is too big From: "(" To: "(" , "Maxime Devos" , "Julien Lepiller" , <56030@debbugs.gnu.org> References: <2C6CCC4B-BC71-4CA4-9B7B-086C14713DCD@lepiller.eu> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56030 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Thu Jul 21, 2022 at 4:03 PM BST, paren--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix w= rote: > Would this not violate POSIX? Correction: system(3) is ISO C, not POSIX. But: @ C11 7.1.4p1 ``` ... it is permitted to take the address of a library function even if it is also defined as a macro ^185 ... 185) This means that an implementation shall provide an actual function for each library function, even if it also provides a macro for that function. ``` Note the footnote. So this technically would be a violation of ISO C, but trivially fixed. Apologies for the noise! (Though the SHELL_PATH solution still applies, of course.) -- ( From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 21 11:42:50 2022 Received: (at 56030) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2022 15:42:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38696 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oEYKA-0000NY-J5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2022 11:42:50 -0400 Received: from lepiller.eu ([89.234.186.109]:44826) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oEYK5-0000NI-7j for 56030@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2022 11:42:50 -0400 Received: from lepiller.eu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lepiller.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id f5d3f680; Thu, 21 Jul 2022 15:42:42 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=lepiller.eu; h=date:from :to:subject:in-reply-to:references:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=dkim; bh=2r9GIxzF9nbD 7BAu31fnnVkOe8CYXGYayYqk0sEP5Ss=; b=fySvbHiFI1BlkH1spEHssKr7lk5v /21n/bWYnfbJu5xbGCTHJVQfefr51agQm0ZULBijZhpi4epjyy1IDvPQdNk2fqt1 11MNlCkJjICTROGaHuxY0H67DnjDYSdJzaHDpFTGhrAsCArZRDWwYW3kVHGHzMds PjaouITrtrrPAKksMzNw+dk7IiH3s0UbKpCea/D8j52i++cAVP2H0gX0N/Nt9max fmzcRaSWBq76INEbXsHiWcVgY2VPCm161Hyn59p5nEFa6N4oSviZhDGXqA+2OQA7 w+iLqGboznAolUX2h1iKbWr14hKUUQpJwNJCJ3L3ThKvBl8R0EyOumL30g== Received: by lepiller.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 71b9ab35 (TLSv1.3:AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Thu, 21 Jul 2022 15:42:42 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2022 17:42:36 +0200 From: Julien Lepiller To: "(" , Maxime Devos , 56030@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#56030: The guix pull profile is too big User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: <2C6CCC4B-BC71-4CA4-9B7B-086C14713DCD@lepiller.eu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----GN71ELZSYU7IZAKOKLI72XO2WDXGY5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56030 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) ------GN71ELZSYU7IZAKOKLI72XO2WDXGY5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We're trying to avoid hard-coding bash-static in glibc, instead letting the= build-system fill the value in dependents=2E So that can't be it, right? Le 21 juillet 2022 17:11:56 GMT+02:00, "(" a =C3=A9c= rit=C2=A0: > >And considering the definition of system(3) in glibc: > >@ sysdeps/posix/system=2Ec (took me way too long to find this; glibc's >source code is a maze ;)) >``` >#define SHELL_PATH "/bin/sh" /* Path of the shell=2E */ >#define SHELL_NAME "sh" /* Name to give it=2E */ >``` > >couldn't we just use `-DSHELL_PATH=3D/gnu/store/=2E=2E=2E`? > > -- ( ------GN71ELZSYU7IZAKOKLI72XO2WDXGY5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We're trying to avoid hard-coding bash-static in g= libc, instead letting the build-system fill the value in dependents=2E So t= hat can't be it, right?

Le 21 juillet 202= 2 17:11:56 GMT+02:00, "(" <paren@disroot=2Eorg> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: 

And considering the definition of s=
ystem(3) in glibc:

@ sysdeps/posix/system=2Ec (took me way too long =
to find this; glibc's
source code is a maze ;))
```
#define SHELL_=
PATH	"/bin/sh"	/* Path of the shell=2E  */
#define SHELL_NAME	"sh"		/* N=
ame to give it=2E  */
```

couldn't we just use `-DSHELL_PATH=3D/g=
nu/store/=2E=2E=2E`?

    -- (
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So that can't be it, right? How would it be any different from -D__guix_bin_sh=3D...? That argument would simply be filled in by the build system. 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Why would we need to change it? The glibc definition already uses that macro for the shell path, it's just hard-coded to /bin/sh by default. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 21 11:52:35 2022 Received: (at 56030) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2022 15:52:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38713 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oEYTb-0000gr-Dz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2022 11:52:35 -0400 Received: from lepiller.eu ([89.234.186.109]:44838) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oEYTY-0000gg-NL for 56030@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2022 11:52:33 -0400 Received: from lepiller.eu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lepiller.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 5d792354; Thu, 21 Jul 2022 15:52:30 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=lepiller.eu; h=date:from :to:subject:in-reply-to:references:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=dkim; bh=XIPCOd5vhYu/ BI20la1YfiiG3Wn99c8ZbGamNRDn8fE=; b=PCHYd5F1Yz+HhoUwqhDatLl2wsVn EJOQlDxw7ORqvdV31UmZnuhNW4xihcrOYnCgqJq9soWktQTPt2ZvwSY56RPFPpYj r06M/mebRPAtpDIGwkxWkeEOwuon7XOLj+Sc0omFtlDrw191Bj8/T1CWldM3Dh1e khXBe8/CWjKFDVqnMq2L1ug74r5jtmV4Zi2z3cyi+FduB5WJP+qNEK6RxScUCo38 vQS9Wax8GH+CZpY/Kvp7dQ5Rr9knfQRCGcX/04n2gIAyem+vauwtkpSxWilP/ceb PYVrz1bUNQNnH7UUbgo+7AIBK0eUJ7jnRKm4V9aNdTPsCNj+ErxAUvZ3kw== Received: by lepiller.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id e48a9c85 (TLSv1.3:AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Thu, 21 Jul 2022 15:52:29 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2022 17:52:25 +0200 From: Julien Lepiller To: "(" , Maxime Devos , 56030@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#56030: The guix pull profile is too big User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: <2C6CCC4B-BC71-4CA4-9B7B-086C14713DCD@lepiller.eu> <22b12576-51f2-2396-a52c-b6956ecd88b5@telenet.be> Message-ID: <3D5439F2-F6AE-4F19-9254-16E5BD7440DC@lepiller.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----HS5FVLPYMMULRM00OT84B74P7L8Y7N Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56030 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) ------HS5FVLPYMMULRM00OT84B74P7L8Y7N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I must have misunderstood, I thought you wanted to pass it during the build= of glibc=2E Le 21 juillet 2022 17:49:36 GMT+02:00, "(" a =C3=A9c= rit=C2=A0: >On Thu Jul 21, 2022 at 4:46 PM BST, Maxime Devos wrote: >> Using SHELL_PATH instead of the __guix_bin_sh sounds better, yes=2E=C2= =A0 But=20 >> it's not 'just use -DSHELL_PATH=3D', we still need to change 'system'= =20 >> appropriately=2E >Why would we need to change it? 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I understand now! The __guix_bin_sh macro would actually be included in the expansion, not defined during the glibc build. 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On 21-07-2022 17:49, ( wrote:
On Thu Jul 21, 2022 at 4:4=
6 PM BST, Maxime Devos wrote:

Using SHELL_PATH instead=
 of the __guix_bin_sh sounds better, yes.=C2=A0 But=20
it's not 'just use -DSHELL_PATH=3D', we still need to change 'system'=20
appropriately.

Why would we need to chang=
e it? The glibc definition already uses that
macro for the shell path, it's just hard-coded to /bin/sh by default.

If we modify the SHELL_PATH to point to /gnu/store/...-bash-minimal-.../bin/sh, then glibc has a reference to bash-minimal. But bash-minimal uses glibc, so bash-minimal would have a reference to glibc. So you would have to end up with a cycle, which is impossible in Guix.

Greetings,
Maxime.

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Alas, for some reason I couldn't find any documentation on how to define strings in a linker script. But never mind that, since that's a far better idea :) > Not all linkers support linker scripts, e.g. mold doesn't from what I've > read because they make the linker slower. Would we really need to support anything other than ld, gold, and lld, though? -- ( From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 21 12:35:53 2022 Received: (at 56030) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2022 16:35:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38947 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oEZ9V-00023a-Ke for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2022 12:35:53 -0400 Received: from michel.telenet-ops.be ([195.130.137.88]:45514) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oEZ9T-00023Q-2G for 56030@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2022 12:35:52 -0400 Received: from [IPV6:2a02:1811:8c09:9d00:5dba:d409:33f7:a16] ([IPv6:2a02:1811:8c09:9d00:5dba:d409:33f7:a16]) by michel.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id xsbp2700320ykKC06sbpfK; Thu, 21 Jul 2022 18:35:49 +0200 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2022 18:35:48 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.11.0 Content-Language: en-US To: "(" , Julien Lepiller , 56030@debbugs.gnu.org References: <2C6CCC4B-BC71-4CA4-9B7B-086C14713DCD@lepiller.eu> <50ad6b55-fb2f-8d24-312d-21655afafe70@telenet.be> From: Maxime Devos Subject: Re: bug#56030: The guix pull profile is too big In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------arz7Lp36iWhEv47Rfz4XUVRN" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=telenet.be; s=r22; t=1658421349; bh=OrGQv4/zxGErjQI0Xhi6BRhn4sUiEKzkBXP+bKpCshY=; h=Date:To:References:From:Subject:In-Reply-To; b=Gz+BUDWmTeMF04mPJKPZR4WsBXRJa3uLkUSSh+nrM7BoCiKA3tE7KapVSEsRiwFfy gdZ8CKOHNENA60NTceD7paIW9T4Rm+nRmvj4iMceZBQWokpkCruDPFK50g4MeBBC9R ZrUEzIxgYIuaCLTaaxHHccJgkbitN1sHj73iSkWiWMbr0WwP/PlN1Q6doghNCzUBb4 99SLTIyzwCWnNvz31A+LW9WXb6q/qqqKhrfzbZbyELLec153W/hghfms0ugGZoCiwx poauhL2oIwmSnAjfdlz3urzix0oYjHY6cVGFvKkQ9kTaNcl7qF7W0r4LlQy0go8oSR 4lA4Y4lS9pOtg== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56030 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --------------arz7Lp36iWhEv47Rfz4XUVRN Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------rH5dD3y0RXutk9ZHDzmb1O3P"; protected-headers="v1" From: Maxime Devos To: "(" , Julien Lepiller , 56030@debbugs.gnu.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#56030: The guix pull profile is too big References: <2C6CCC4B-BC71-4CA4-9B7B-086C14713DCD@lepiller.eu> <50ad6b55-fb2f-8d24-312d-21655afafe70@telenet.be> In-Reply-To: --------------rH5dD3y0RXutk9ZHDzmb1O3P Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------yx8WxYZjoiDmpIVXFoaY3hDs" --------------yx8WxYZjoiDmpIVXFoaY3hDs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------DgbJZR0TM5fAW455XTxg72sI" --------------DgbJZR0TM5fAW455XTxg72sI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 DQpPbiAyMS0wNy0yMDIyIDE4OjI5LCAoIHdyb3RlOg0KPj4gTm90IGFsbCBsaW5rZXJzIHN1 cHBvcnQgbGlua2VyIHNjcmlwdHMsIGUuZy4gbW9sZCBkb2Vzbid0IGZyb20gd2hhdCBJJ3Zl DQo+PiByZWFkIGJlY2F1c2UgdGhleSBtYWtlIHRoZSBsaW5rZXIgc2xvd2VyLg0KPiBXb3Vs ZCB3ZSByZWFsbHkgbmVlZCB0byBzdXBwb3J0IGFueXRoaW5nIG90aGVyIHRoYW4gbGQsIGdv bGQsIGFuZCBsbGQsDQo+IHRob3VnaD8NCj4NCj4gICAgICAtLSAoDQoNCg0KV2UgY2FuIGNo b29zZSB0byBub3QgcGFja2FnZSBtb2xkIG9mIGNvdXJzZSwgYnV0IEkgdGhpbmsgaXQgd291 bGQgYmUgYSANCmdvb2QgaWRlYSB0byBzdXBwb3J0IG1vbGQsIGJlY2F1c2UgaXQgYXBwZWFy cyB0byBiZSBtdWNoIGZhc3RlciB0aGFuIHRoZSANCm90aGVycy4gRnVydGhlcm1vcmUsIEkn ZCBsaWtlIHRvIGV2ZW50dWFsbHkgc3dpdGNoIHRvIG1vbGQgYnkgZGVmYXVsdCwgDQpiZWNh dXNlIGl0J3MgbXVjaCBmYXN0ZXIuwqAgRnJvbSB0aGUgUkVBRE1FOg0KDQptb2xkIGlzIHNv IGZhc3QgdGhhdCBpdCBpcyBvbmx5IDJ4IC9zbG93ZXIvIHRoYW4gfGNwfCBvbiB0aGUgc2Ft ZSANCm1hY2hpbmUuIEZlZWwgZnJlZSB0byBmaWxlIGEgYnVnIDxodHRwczovL2dpdGh1Yi5j b20vcnVpMzE0L21vbGQvaXNzdWVzPiANCmlmIHlvdSBmaW5kIG1vbGQgaXMgbm90IGZhc3Rl ciB0aGFuIG90aGVyIGxpbmtlcnMuDQoNClByb2dyYW0gKGxpbmtlciBvdXRwdXQgc2l6ZSkg CUdOVSBnb2xkIAlMTFZNIGxsZCAJbW9sZA0KQ2hyb21lIDk2ICgxLjg5IEdpQikgCTUzLjg2 cyAJMTEuNzRzIAkyLjIxcw0KQ2xhbmcgMTMgKDMuMTggR2lCKSAJNjQuMTJzIAk1LjgycyAJ Mi45MHMNCkZpcmVmb3ggODkgbGlieHVsICgxLjY0IEdpQikgCTMyLjk1cyAJNi44MHMgCTEu NDJzDQoNCg== --------------DgbJZR0TM5fAW455XTxg72sI Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On 21-07-2022 18:29, ( wrote:
Not all linkers support li=
nker scripts, e.g. mold doesn't from what I've
read because they make the linker slower.

Would we really need to supp=
ort anything other than ld, gold, and lld,
though?

    -- (


We can choose to not package mold of course, but I think it would be a good idea to support mold, because it appears to be much faster than the others. Furthermore, I'd like to eventually switch to mold by default, because it's much faster.=C2=A0 From the README= :

mold is so fast that it is only 2x slower than cp on the same machine. Feel free to file a bug if you find mold is not faster than other linkers.

Program (linker output size) GNU gold LLVM lld mold
Chrome 96 (1.89 GiB) 53.86s 11.74s 2.21s
Clang 13 (3.18 GiB) 64.12s 5.82s 2.90s
Firefox 89 libxul (1.64 GiB) 32.95s 6.80s 1.42s
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-- was Re: bug#56030: The guix pull profile is too big Message-ID: <20220806233726.GA18362@LionPure> References: <2C6CCC4B-BC71-4CA4-9B7B-086C14713DCD@lepiller.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56030 Cc: 56030@debbugs.gnu.org, Julien Lepiller , Maxime Devos X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi "(" aka paren :) On +2022-07-21 16:03:19 +0100, paren--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix wrote: [ ... ] > > -- ( > Are you hoping for some effect on a pre-rfc2822 parser?? 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As shown in [1], note that deduplication is defeated by packages with multi-outputs impacted by grafted ones. For example, if one dependency of bash-minimal is grafted, then two store items of bash-minimal (with the same content) could live in the store and thus the reduction cost of disk space is mitigated. 1: Cheers, simon