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Whereas in 28.1 while not perfect but at least it displayed something more informative: Global Bindings Starting With C-c: key binding --- ------- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 10 05:40:32 2022 Received: (at 55875) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jun 2022 09:40:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48752 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nzb84-0000qJ-FM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 05:40:32 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:60556) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nzb82-0000q5-LL for 55875@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 05:40:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=w5C1sOtWzABhRmWsEd6mWBLD+F1ISLGmwCQ2yW0+tNI=; b=YXN2sIsmEYzXzb0LigJOg2JESx yqjoAx82KSzvbbf/jW5RwOd5WjN2EOp13FnJ6k+yDjdJWxH4XOavfMX7aR5+5kQdtI71VUCSo2jLC m92PqJ27Q7sqExhGvr84Sv8etbN9juligVBacn6PsGWhSK7WDjpjfkeAT4WGRzsnzFDI=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nzb7t-0006yW-DP; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 11:40:23 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Juri Linkov Subject: Re: bug#55875: 29.0.50; Empty Help buffer References: <86leu5eqgd.fsf@mail.linkov.net> X-Now-Playing: Little Annie Anxiety & Hiro Kone's _Repossessed_: "Burnt Offerings" Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2022 11:40:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: <86leu5eqgd.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Thu, 09 Jun 2022 19:55:06 +0300") Message-ID: <871qvwx3ej.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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C-c C-h > > Then the user have to stare at the empty buffer. > Whereas in 28.1 while not perfect but at least > it displayed something more informative: > > Global Bindings Starting [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55875 Cc: 55875@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Juri Linkov writes: > 0. emacs -Q > 1. 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