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[108.30.23.113]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y14-20020a05622a164e00b00304c13ec6c8sm13048989qtj.30.2022.06.07.09.05.58 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 07 Jun 2022 09:05:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Sam Steingold To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 29.0.50; gnus: Z n in digest group does not catch up User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (darwin) X-Attribution: Sam X-Disclaimer: You should not expect anyone to agree with me. Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:05:57 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::82a; envelope-from=sam.steingold@gmail.com; helo=mail-qt1-x82a.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: sds@gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) `Z n` (gnus-summary-catchup-and-goto-next-group) in digest groups no longer catches up the parent group. Steps to reproduce: in gnus, enter "gmane.comp.security.risks" on nntp:news.gwene.org and do `C-d` (gnus-summary-enter-digest-group) on a the only unread message. In the newly created digest *Summary* buffer, do `Z n` - this will catch up the digest and move you to the next group. However, the "gmane.comp.security.risks" group will remain un-caught-up, i.e., the *Groups* buffer shows it as if it has unread messages. Expected behavior (observed until about a month ago?): `Z n` should catch up the digest and move on to the parent group; if there are no unread message (my case) it should also catch this one up and move to the next group with unread messages, marking this group in *Groups* as empty (this is the regression: it did so before, but not anymore). In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin21.4.0, NS appkit-2113.40 Version 12.3.1 (Build 21E258)) of 2022-06-07 built on 3c22fb11fdab.ant.amazon.com Repository revision: 3864308c20deb69e7b75420377a3b86716215dd3 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.2113 System Description: macOS 12.3.1 Configured using: 'configure --with-imagemagick --with-mailutils --with-ns PKG_CONFIG_PATH=' Configured features: ACL GIF GMP GNUTLS IMAGEMAGICK JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY KQUEUE NS PDUMPER PNG SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS WEBP ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: C locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Group Minor modes in effect: shell-dirtrack-mode: t gnus-undo-mode: t global-edit-server-edit-mode: t winner-mode: t which-function-mode: t url-handler-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t buffer-read-only: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on darwin Ns 10.3.2113 http://childpsy.net http://calmchildstories.com http://steingoldpsychology.com https://ij.org/ https://youtube.com/channel/UCiW5WB6K4Fx-NhhtZscW7Og Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jun 07 13:12:10 2022 Received: (at 55834) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jun 2022 17:12:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41348 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nyckU-0001PX-Ev for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2022 13:12:10 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:55916) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nyckT-0001PJ-3I for 55834@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2022 13:12:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=KMDsD0K/KzSEK0EeSCfNhs948cfWXU1C7aQ4LVLD8yM=; b=ggrwCYNBP2CHDTydfdudbKWhdb Z0mAMmgM+OBX6qjVURqwuHsccssZE0AnhBu2rPEzsKCuPvgzrkU3Mw1/rw36pWGp3FdK1DrMrqbNQ o2GitH8ErMOw2jgMD4obqK1wElKhnv14XLanVdyyqLbMYW5PRLGQfblCV7fkS8AEUgCY=; Received: from 46.66.65.125.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.66.65.125] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nyckK-0005iK-6f; Tue, 07 Jun 2022 19:12:02 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Sam Steingold Subject: Re: bug#55834: 29.0.50; gnus: Z n in digest group does not catch up In-Reply-To: (Sam Steingold's message of "Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:05:57 -0400") References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Ryuichi Sakamoto's _Hidari Ude No Yume (1)_: "Boku No Kakera" Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2022 19:11:59 +0200 Message-ID: <87czfke6u8.fsf@gnus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Sam Steingold writes: > Expected behavior (observed until about a month ago?): > `Z n` should catch up the digest and move on to the parent group; if > there are no unread message (my case) it should also catch this one up [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 0.0 TVD_RCVD_IP Message was received from an IP address -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55834 Cc: 55834@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Sam Steingold writes: > Expected behavior (observed until about a month ago?): > `Z n` should catch up the digest and move on to the parent group; if > there are no unread message (my case) it should also catch this one up > and move to the next group with unread messages, marking this group in > *Groups* as empty (this is the regression: it did so before, but not > anymore). Are you sure that it ever did this? This command hasn't changed since 2007, and it's exceedingly simple: (defun gnus-summary-catchup-and-goto-prev-group (&optional all) "Mark all articles in this group as read and select the previous group. If given a prefix, mark all articles, unread as well as ticked, as read." (interactive "P" gnus-summary-mode) (save-excursion (gnus-summary-catchup all)) (gnus-summary-next-group nil nil t)) Any changed that seem relevant in Gnus: | * a9f17ccce3..: =C5=A0t=C4=9Bp=C3=A1n N=C4=9Bmec 2021-05-28 ; Fix some do= c typos and minor language issues * | 7749ec6aaa..: Stefan Kangas 2022-05-20 Remove some ancient Emacs compat= code * | b2bce107b1..: Lars Ingebrigtsen 2022-05-24 Further audits of single quo= tes in Lisp doc strings * | ed34cbeae7..: Lars Ingebrigtsen 2022-05-24 Audit symbol quoting in Lisp= doc strings * | 3e3ba233cf..: Stefan Kangas 2022-05-18 Remove some ancient Emacs compat= code * | b5621dbe2f..: Stefan Kangas 2022-05-14 Delete some compat code for very= old Emacs versions * | 3c5b332f1a..: Lars Ingebrigtsen 2022-05-12 Make message load eudc-capf = more lazily * | 620ac67355..: Alexander Adolf 2022-05-02 EUDC: Add completion-at-point = support * | 44db73d968..: Lars Ingebrigtsen 2022-05-10 Fix some quoting problems in= defcustom :type * | c57a6644ef..: Eric Abrahamsen 2022-05-06 Fix handling of IMAP search st= rings * | 6d4cc2358b..: Eric Abrahamsen 2022-05-06 Don't force Gnus cache usage i= n nnvirtual * | f1ab92bc23..: dickmao 2022-05-04 Transcription error * | 2b50dbb1a5..: Eric Abrahamsen 2022-05-04 Remove bogus mode check from g= nus topic update functions So I'm wondering if you have some special code to deal with digests/"parent" groups? --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jun 07 13:12:25 2022 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jun 2022 17:12:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41351 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nyckd-0001Pu-PP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2022 13:12:25 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:55930) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nyckW-0001PO-Nu for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2022 13:12:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=oeNL6poDpyzoGdHTdTD0Q+4cvMcbVNV722iHsw1vT+w=; b=FbXmc+xgc1kS2VVwg3mV7km2P4 vJ9hIy2tYIqooaII58DkzgjTNtrmmxjp6q9xc9yD1nW+0/1KcelpzA0tZomr1yOAQ/EeDrK4BY6Kz PvLpPzw5HT6vHjf0wAF0OGWkRDr+G+Bd8uUe7dkG5d2j/K4m4FvgesebN5lmZh9NUcig=; Received: from 46.66.65.125.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.66.65.125] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nyckP-0005iY-24 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2022 19:12:07 +0200 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2022 19:12:04 +0200 Message-Id: <87bkv4e6u3.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #55834 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2022 11:26:33 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55834 Cc: 55834@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: sds@gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) > * Lars Ingebrigtsen [2022-06-07 19:11:59 +0200]: > > Sam Steingold writes: > >> Expected behavior (observed until about a month ago?): >> `Z n` should catch up the digest and move on to the parent group; if >> there are no unread message (my case) it should also catch this one up >> and move to the next group with unread messages, marking this group in >> *Groups* as empty (this is the regression: it did so before, but not >> anymore). > > Are you sure that it ever did this? Well, I think so - but I could be wrong. > So I'm wondering if you have some special code to deal with > digests/"parent" groups? Nope. Please consider this bug report as an RFE ;-) Thank you! -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on darwin Ns 10.3.2113 http://childpsy.net http://calmchildstories.com http://steingoldpsychology.com https://youtube.com/channel/UCiW5WB6K4Fx-NhhtZscW7Og https://ij.org/ Hypocrisy is the Vaseline of political intercourse. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Sam Steingold writes: >> So I'm wondering if you have some special code to deal with >> digests/"parent" groups? > > Nope. > > Please consider this bug report as an RFE ;-) I rather think that it's not a very useful thing, though. As proposed, the `Z n' command would do the same as `c' followed by `n'. And that's easier to type, so why not just type that instead? Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55834 Cc: 55834@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Sam Steingold writes: >> So I'm wondering if you have some special code to deal with >> digests/"parent" groups? > > Nope. > > Please consider this bug report as an RFE ;-) I rather think that it's not a very useful thing, though. As proposed, the `Z n' command would do the same as `c' followed by `n'. 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Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 09:21:40 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55834 Cc: 55834@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: sds@gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) > * Lars Ingebrigtsen [2022-06-09 12:33:38 +0200]: > > Sam Steingold writes: > >>> So I'm wondering if you have some special code to deal with >>> digests/"parent" groups? >> >> Nope. >> >> Please consider this bug report as an RFE ;-) > > I rather think that it's not a very useful thing, though. As proposed, > the `Z n' command would do the same as `c' followed by `n'. And that's > easier to type, so why not just type that instead? 1. In my case, it will be "c n n" (ISTR that the first "n" says "no next unread article" or something like that, and only the second goes to the next group - there might be an option that I set 15 years ago that does it) - but that hardly matters. 2. Going to the next group using "Z n" works in all other groups, why not here in digest? At any rate, arguing about it is counterproductive. No is no, let us move on. Thank you for your explanations! -- Sam Steingold (https://youtube.com/channel/UCiW5WB6K4Fx-NhhtZscW7Og) on darwin Ns 10.3.2113 http://childpsy.net http://calmchildstories.com http://steingoldpsychology.com https://honestreporting.com https://mideasttruth.com https://www.memritv.org He who laughs last did not get the joke. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 11 07:21:11 2022 Received: (at 55834) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jul 2022 11:21:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38592 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oArTT-00069t-F9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2022 07:21:11 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:50264) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oArTS-00069f-AI for 55834@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2022 07:21:10 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=h2gG+7a2DWCebR7jU+ZrHQ3XBrPcvyogeZh5W64TLyQ=; b=DosJ4FjBlut4AJ+0FxileMgWyy lEWVdawBDB6QXcfN5vzzgelhqLKOIMXlDTsHqJRsqV0llQlDr5YAY0ohxmWjHtXORr+UvI0tmCbmI h3Eym6QUaskrbG3l3N2+jxP6JzYW0F2nDZt1ZBin3dyhr5m/uQGEVmbq/yY8nkEPTeeU=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=joga) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oArTJ-0002Iw-Db; Mon, 11 Jul 2022 13:21:04 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Sam Steingold Subject: Re: bug#55834: 29.0.50; gnus: Z n in digest group does not catch up In-Reply-To: (Sam Steingold's message of "Thu, 09 Jun 2022 09:21:40 -0400") References: <87czfke6u8.fsf@gnus.org> <87h74u86t9.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: Liquid Liquid's _Dig We Must_: "Flextone" Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2022 13:21:01 +0200 Message-ID: <87ilo3x5cy.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Sam Steingold writes: > At any rate, arguing about it is counterproductive. > No is no, let us move on. OK; closing this bug report, then. 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