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Thanks. I installed the following modified version, which I think is more accurate (e.g., "length" and "index" can be ambiguous when talking about Lisp strings), and also includes some practical advice that can avoid some unibyte-vs-multibyte pitfalls and surprises with these functions: The most basic way to alter the contents of an existing string is with @code{aset} (@pxref{Array Functions}). @w{@code{(aset @var{string} @var{idx} @var{char})}} stores @var{char} into @var{string} at character index @var{idx}. It will automatically convert a pure-@acronym{ASCII} @var{string} to a multibyte string (@pxref{Text Representations}) if needed, but we recommend to always make sure @var{string} is multibyte, (e.g., by using @code{string-to-multibyte}, @pxref{Converting Representations}), if @var{char} is a non-@acronym{ASCII} character, not a raw byte. A more powerful function is @code{store-substring}: @defun store-substring string idx obj This function alters part of the contents of the specified @var{string}, by storing @var{obj} starting at character index @var{idx}. The argument @var{obj} may be either a character (in which case the function behaves exactly as @code{aset}) or a (smaller) string. If @var{obj} is a multibyte string, we recommend to make sure @var{string} is also multibyte, even if it's pure-@acronym{ASCII}. Since it is impossible to change the number of characters in an existing string, it is en error if @var{obj} consists of more characters than would fit in @var{string} starting at character index @var{idx}. @end defun From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jun 05 15:22:28 2022 Received: (at 55801-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jun 2022 19:22:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33518 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nxvpU-0004Mz-MW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2022 15:22:28 -0400 Received: from spork.scientician.org ([66.228.35.160]:57370) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nxvpS-0004Mr-QD for 55801-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2022 15:22:27 -0400 X-Submitted: to spork.scientician.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E1D854A1AC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rhansen.org; s=20130902-spork; t=1654456945; bh=thouv/Iugv9Ibk1c9KzTk8Zsgx+FoM9fM+m0l2bDqdk=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=nVcNR9MxFaS3Iu9a3I3CWsvYqX7Jg34NfeY9Thv3qZ/C6fzNfVnWwhkSJw0u6YiJw yqn1Jsod/G4uxiK27Q+Uz6A1kHI8oatyaBDqwIXgJsesNiHToAG9MurImq9gbZyM7C lZRLsZjpgYmTSlxPHHYtNW/iSW7CCS6+aT0kNlTg= X-Submitted: to mail.scientician.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 237CE201AF DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rhansen.org; s=20130902-mail; t=1654456944; bh=thouv/Iugv9Ibk1c9KzTk8Zsgx+FoM9fM+m0l2bDqdk=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=cNau8GdtfuovIX7ARcteB4E8rRf8ZUyNKwdoepojOKud6Fhmql0KHbQ4bvYSD+UXp mZzyOwg3qr1/S1ugxqlSKOcKoBvv8nx4IuoQ+7fIxqj+KRuPi3zl31THz1ONLMZg+C VZNPxnEIEx4yfTzF4ituEFGNFUxCZApzen9d/Xrw= Message-ID: <24d1224d-6a83-fc79-fd34-027b4a1c8f80@rhansen.org> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2022 15:22:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.9.1 Subject: Re: bug#55801: [PATCH] Fix documentation of `aset' on strings, `store-substring' Content-Language: en-US To: Eli Zaretskii References: <1d60b9cc-c6a5-e42b-7ed0-5ded2dcbab65@rhansen.org> <83tu8za4xj.fsf@gnu.org> From: Richard Hansen In-Reply-To: <83tu8za4xj.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55801-done Cc: 55801-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Thanks! 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