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Visit remote file on an OSX system using /scp:hostname:/path/to/file 2. Modify buffer 3. Save 4. Note buffer-file-coding-system has updated to utf-8-mac (and (Mac) now listed in modeline). 5. Modify and Save again and the file line endings will be converted to carriage returns. I used git bisect to find commit 47fe7a5983a97c3e806e90340f3cd6ab3f0c49b2 introduced this behavior. Prior to 47fe7a59 emacs would not modify the line endings of the file. I believe utf-8-mac is only for Mac Classic files. In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 12, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo version 1.16.0, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2022-06-02 built on hostname Repository revision: 47fe7a5983a97c3e806e90340f3cd6ab3f0c49b2 Repository branch: HEAD Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101003 System Description: Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Configured using: 'configure --with-x-toolkit=lucid --without-native-compilation' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XAW3D XDBE XIM XPM LUCID ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: ELisp/d Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t line-number-mode: t indent-tabs-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message mailcap yank-media rmc puny dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util text-property-search time-date mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader smtpmail auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs eieio-loaddefs password-cache json map sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils misearch multi-isearch vc-git diff-mode easy-mmode vc-dispatcher cl-loaddefs cl-lib seq gv subr-x byte-opt bytecomp byte-compile cconv iso-transl tooltip eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer nadvice simple cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure cl-preloaded button loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget keymap hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify lcms2 dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 55245 10587) (symbols 48 7079 1) (strings 32 21097 1688) (string-bytes 1 665408) (vectors 16 14212) (vector-slots 8 196342 11371) (floats 8 25 55) (intervals 56 250 9) (buffers 992 12)) --000000000000f0748605e07922f5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

1. Visit remote file on an OSX system using /scp:hostname:/path/to/file
2. Modify buffer
3. Save
4. Note buffer-file-coding-system has updated to utf-8-mac (and (Mac) now l= isted
in modeline).
5. Modify and Save again and the file line endings will be converted to
carriage returns.

I used git bisect to find commit
47fe7a5983a97c3e806e90340f3cd6ab3f0c49b2 introduced this behavior. Prior
to 47fe7a59 emacs would not modify the line endings of the file.=C2=A0=C2= =A0 I believe utf-8-mac is only for Mac Classic files.=20

In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 12, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo versi= on 1.16.0, Xaw3d scroll bars)
of 2022-06-02 built on hostname
Repository revision: 47fe7a5983a97c3e806e90340f3cd6ab3f0c49b2
Repository branch: HEAD
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.1= 2101003
System Description: Ubuntu 22.04 LTS

Configured using:
'configure --with-x-toolkit=3Dlucid --without-native-compilation'

Configured features:
ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG
JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NOTIFY
INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS
X11 XAW3D XDBE XIM XPM LUCID ZLIB

Important settings:
value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3Dibus
locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: ELisp/d

Minor modes in effect:
tooltip-mode: t
global-eldoc-mode: t
eldoc-mode: t
show-paren-mode: t
electric-indent-mode: t
mouse-wheel-mode: t
tool-bar-mode: t
menu-bar-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
blink-cursor-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
indent-tabs-mode: t
transient-mark-mode: t
auto-composition-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t

Load-path shadows:
None found.

Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message mailcap yank-media rmc puny
dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec epa derived epg rfc6068
epg-config gnus-util text-property-search time-date mm-decode mm-bodies
mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader smtpmail
auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs eieio-loaddefs
password-cache json map sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util
mail-prsvr mail-utils misearch multi-isearch vc-git diff-mode easy-mmode
vc-dispatcher cl-loaddefs cl-lib seq gv subr-x byte-opt bytecomp
byte-compile cconv iso-transl tooltip eldoc paren electric uniquify
ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel term/x-win x-win
term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe
tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register
page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select
scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors
frame minibuffer nadvice simple cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang
misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms
cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian
cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table
epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure cl-preloaded button
loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay
sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget keymap
hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify lcms2
dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo x-toolkit
x multi-tty make-network-process emacs)

Memory information:
((conses 16 55245 10587)
(symbols 48 7079 1)
(strings 32 21097 1688)
(string-bytes 1 665408)
(vectors 16 14212)
(vector-slots 8 196342 11371)
(floats 8 25 55)
(intervals 56 250 9)
(buffers 992 12))

--000000000000f0748605e07922f5-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 08 07:09:44 2022 Received: (at 55767) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jun 2022 11:09:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42574 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nytZH-0008Oa-Sa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jun 2022 07:09:44 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:48925) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nytZE-0008OJ-21 for 55767@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jun 2022 07:09:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1654686573; bh=PlKifXdjMZRzXRwNbcxLMWezjdUYDk5JV9MZa6n6czY=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=AUE3XX7IMhDXfIws91n44f/BflNRGw3g8jjEqxQNt7g4yMBd7RmwscsrdNaQiOv4I RTzgieX7MfJFVpn1l7vnaC3vs+TY/xyQCsnMJdgnAL6KKkp4KcLfVF9LvHbRvbE4fQ 88HOW/DbArf0mMeWVvUwoLm57AeeVf/pTG+Pj29E= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([217.70.140.113]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M6Ue3-1o5nK02KBl-006xW9; Wed, 08 Jun 2022 13:09:33 +0200 From: Michael Albinus To: Jake Nelson Subject: Re: bug#55767: 29.0.50; tramp converts buffer of remote OSX file to utf-8-mac after save References: Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2022 13:09:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Jake Nelson's message of "Thu, 2 Jun 2022 12:02:18 -0400") Message-ID: <87fskfif83.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Qio1ShuZ+/BlHQZioqHVoNUP6E9V1ByWgg234zut1JBY/UvJyTY 83Q9e4RCppFa7ZWdAfPRbMs08jj4Qcfa9q1Pw+HreOMMFermAy0vgy6r4sKmYQpRRIvblbo 2yDIbxnwneaJ3xshcIp4fadnl05ighBL57s9hknKLmR+3qAnbR2ZRQSN1wAYaB1IvxhKaGL 9fyxvwQw48qmZmVJYPXxw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:lminFe6t9Dc=:THQT93Z4id6ohuJziK/HtR zyhpG+vfPrMbR7FTrmiMGvfQtPdqDT1GROLARGzLG8XjisSwhEAaJUQ/V9zzo/dnGlxDRlIDM 6RUFWnUUOYmyG6Dd6sjpV6986+xvqcDofNrw/bAUpU+9ysqVuVygICnfHL5kN4DepxkLVZ7h+ igyi0/SU8+a9IK+xooquo/pZ+9EIE5iSWCjpNKRMDXyj/dol8KUqYs8LH6bmlG3cpsp3zkps7 h3zCj62nwd3AivILptTsYFVRcQAnZryr+SdWSSmYKpED7Qu+1tUv9zMi/QANA/TBYaqvtDfec XFVp02X1N8g1VGmOQcnzRq1ksB+sIX28mhFekG1DoAk7UZpdaPP+uAbPvzBBQikoc33Trz085 0nGNIskXZ2lrhH0IG4QWOqNvdTqVg0DuEiecFWenpJLHpY1kHqo6cU9l3HoC3pKSMWiys73JY aJAWLldyI7N8QUOsZb/4zb5PzsXOYdNfZlZ3lGz9CIhTPGAExALq2Ofr0yM7nn4kj9bHUSzij Ku9bya4CnNs0afgLyiW9dHCljqfezaEWz/T67OROsjWaNJLqJB9SWKmZcu+qXXbhB7tnJnKfG ExEixhK6rx6xYQ3Sp5hpiYR55nNgXTsb7C+ZBgYfQBVJzF+7WeYSoq+aqXoHz2TcywHXBeeb3 HHCouR1iGSgAf8RJrs1KCL/PAXIOspKrm7V+5HIroW3/hagzzEyt2CHz1ntr5uUcZ/GrUQGcQ Doy032JN7Rl109zUuybZU5zHvZBpeu56OvabpMy/vuNgEcbVio8bWqkK1iOtPd7ZkoBmjNQyM dlwtfVVZBBrRLuEKiwXKa1nN+IDX/NJmvqNBAMA9+0HXJQfmpfnz+M73od9iT9qevpLph4jj/ 9LY04QMSPEBBEGHJWmsHmHsIY2Pdkn1xSExHqc+3FRJEyVhIcOUvKuZOVi1b+ey38EGmmGzxq aYjsWjoKvTFikVWdlawA4I0I/u/Z7v8iUeu0beDbFtM8bJ/RWCuJ53fpwF0kUySXs2VOdnk9K OSUfcr8c5ahkDNBrqqxo76fQV8OgSJSuOTdjV8uJDo+DlZ9FzsRW3hh7wKk8LsNk1XrMdJrGl SOLA0orY31tAXbuStidJRmGz9qW3PQ/kiDCL8FfSOILZSxeiz48bxUlRQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55767 Cc: 55767@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Jake Nelson writes: Hi Jake, > 1. Visit remote file on an OSX system using > /scp:hostname:/path/to/file > 2. Modify buffer > 3. Save > 4. Note buffer-file-coding-system has updated to utf-8-mac (and (Mac) > now listed > in modeline). > 5. Modify and Save again and the file line endings will be converted > to > carriage returns. Well, I don't use macOS myself, neither locally nor on a remote machine. So I hope you can help me to puzzle this out. > I used git bisect to find commit > 47fe7a5983a97c3e806e90340f3cd6ab3f0c49b2 introduced this behavior. > Prior > to 47fe7a59 emacs would not modify the line endings of the file. I > believe utf-8-mac is only for Mac Classic files. Well, IIRC, 47fe7a59 was just a refactoring of code. It introduced the new macro tramp-skeleton-write-region in order to simplify Tramp's different write-region implementations. Hmm, you are speaking about "Mac Classic files". How could Tramp determine, whether a remote machine uses this? These days, Tramp calls "uname -sr". If the result string contains "Darwin", Tramp assumes macOS on the remote side. Is there something else Tramp shall distinguish for remote macOS'es? Best regards, Michael. 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How could Tramp > determine, whether a remote machine uses this? These days, Tramp calls > "uname -sr". If the result string contains "Darwin", Tramp assumes macOS > on the remote side. Is there something else Tramp shall distinguish for > remote macOS'es? Ping. Could you pls provide the information? Otherwise, I don't know what I could do. Best regards, Michael. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Michael Albinus writes: >> Hmm, you are speaking about "Mac Classic files". How could Tramp >> determine, whether a remote machine uses this? These days, Tramp calls >> "uname -sr". If the result string contains "Darwin", Tr [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55767 Cc: Jake Nelson , 55767@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Michael Albinus writes: >> Hmm, you are speaking about "Mac Classic files". How could Tramp >> determine, whether a remote machine uses this? These days, Tramp calls >> "uname -sr". If the result string contains "Darwin", Tramp assumes macOS >> on the remote side. Is there something else Tramp shall distinguish for >> remote macOS'es? > > Ping. > > Could you pls provide the information? Otherwise, I don't know what I > could do. More information was requested, but no response was given within a month, so I'm closing this bug report. If progress can be made, please respond to this email and we'll reopen the bug report. 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