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Something similar was > done a while ago with `C-x 8 .' being moved to `C-x 8 . .' to allow for > new character compositions. I _really_ don't like us changing the default key bindings that exist for a significant amount of time. "C-x 8 -" exists at least since Emacs 22, so changing it would be a bad blow to people's habits. It sounds like you want to search for letters with combining macron, like ā and ō? If so, why not use a suitable input method to type those letters? That is the standard way in Emacs to type characters that are not on the keyboard. (If support for typing those characters is missing from the input methods we have, we could relatively easily add them.) > (It could be said that `C-x 8 _' be used, but it already has an entry > for `C-x 8 _ o' and it's not `ō'.) We could augment iso-transl.el to produce the likes of ā via "C-x 8", e.g. with "C-x 8 a -" or "C-x 8 a _". 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Something similar was > done a while ago with `C-x 8 .' being moved to `C-x 8 . .' to allow for > new character compositions. > > (It could be said that `C-x 8 _' be used, but it already has an entry > for `C-x 8 _ o' and it's not `=C5=8D'.) >From the peanut gallery (I don't use macrons much in my writing, so please disregard if not helpful): if we are going to displace an existing binding, why not `C-x 8 =3D'? It's currently bound to =C2=AF (MACRON), and the =3D prefix is reminiscent of TeX, where \=3Do yields =C5= =8D (which is usable right now with the TeX input method). 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Kévin Le Gouguec writes: >>From the peanut gallery (I don't use macrons much in my writing, so > please disregard if not helpful): if we are going to displace an > existing binding, why not `C-x 8 ='? It's currently bound to [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55668 Cc: Tor Kringeland , 55668@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) K=C3=A9vin Le Gouguec writes: >>>From the peanut gallery (I don't use macrons much in my writing, so > please disregard if not helpful): if we are going to displace an > existing binding, why not `C-x 8 =3D'? It's currently bound to =C2=AF > (MACRON), and the =3D prefix is reminiscent of TeX, where \=3Do yields = =C5=8D > (which is usable right now with the TeX input method). I think doing that might make sense. And `C-x 8 =3D =3D' would insert =C2= =AF, so it wouldn't be very disruptive for people. 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It's currently bound to ¯ > > (MACRON), and the = prefix is reminiscent of TeX, where \=o yields ō > > (which is usable right now with the TeX input method). > > Didn't know about this one. I think it'd be better to use it instead of > `C-x 8 -', then, since the change in behavior is not so different. Does the below fit the bill? diff --git a/lisp/international/iso-transl.el b/lisp/international/iso-transl.el index b90c065..bdfe9b1 100644 --- a/lisp/international/iso-transl.el +++ b/lisp/international/iso-transl.el @@ -134,7 +134,19 @@ iso-transl-char-map ("*<" . [?«]) ("<" . [?«]) ("*=" . [?¯]) - ("=" . [?¯]) + ("==" . [?¯]) + ("=A" . [?Ā]) + ("=a" . [?ā]) + ("=E" . [?Ē]) + ("=e" . [?ē]) + ("=I" . [?Ī]) + ("=i" . [?ī]) + ("=O" . [?Ō]) + ("=o" . [?ō]) + ("=U" . [?Ū]) + ("=u" . [?ū]) + ("=Y" . [?Ȳ]) + ("=y" . [?ȳ]) ("*>" . [?»]) (">" . [?»]) ("*?" . 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It does --- thanks!= From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 27 11:42:50 2022 Received: (at 55668-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 May 2022 15:42:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35638 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nuc70-0006Za-3j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2022 11:42:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46202) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nuc6x-0006ZN-Uw for 55668-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2022 11:42:48 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59136) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nuc6r-0003jb-IN; Fri, 27 May 2022 11:42:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=W84qU2s+HPTahLi8OHSTgBmiFttx2+9sOq8krxMtZ60=; b=CCfwuSixV2NV 1AWS//F2AGUOPWCXh6PSBsZ70VVeXG87hZf/0+FX2Mu5dj8Yff9AT5Zx3U6o3K4mdaqWOBBUp9fju b+YP/dUDUf/yKiIAaN4uXgncuyy64UBazv7hb+YHdm732OuFPenzJ5S1ZNPMbpOFDpnoJlMcQ7AVU mw59IX9i8ZBJcrDOJS0EnmN9zOjLgOY8T1RdgsqsJPgpRCEuPPwDtuT25JvR3/gsa4skJ6/feZdiJ sHcJlorefjMHkLmCuO5PpISIEf+gPDMVRweYgfeUzC21WULDIF17qqPb+KEThSBAJUtlqvjAqeRQ8 1zvapr3qpa0fJBpF0iXvMw==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3884 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nuc6r-0000Aq-1Z; Fri, 27 May 2022 11:42:41 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 May 2022 18:42:36 +0300 Message-Id: <83y1ynm177.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Tor Kringeland In-Reply-To: (message from Tor Kringeland on Fri, 27 May 2022 13:40:49 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#55668: Extending the `C-x 8' map to include macrons References: <87ilprv7f6.fsf@gmail.com> <834k1bnmix.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55668-done Cc: 55668-done@debbugs.gnu.org, kevin.legouguec@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Tor Kringeland > CC: "kevin.legouguec@gmail.com" , > "55668@debbugs.gnu.org" <55668@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Fri, 27 May 2022 13:40:49 +0000 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Does the below fit the bill? > > It does --- thanks! Thanks, installed. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 27 21:47:00 2022 Received: (at 55668) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 May 2022 01:47:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36119 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nulXg-00035w-8P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2022 21:47:00 -0400 Received: from smtp-4.orcon.net.nz ([60.234.4.59]:59761) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nulXc-00035k-O0 for 55668@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2022 21:46:59 -0400 Received: from [10.253.37.70] (port=42107 helo=webmail.orcon.net.nz) by smtp-4.orcon.net.nz with esmtpa (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nulXZ-0007Uk-4v; Sat, 28 May 2022 13:46:54 +1200 Received: from ip-116-251-140-135.kinect.net.nz ([116.251.140.135]) via [10.253.37.253] by webmail.orcon.net.nz with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Sat, 28 May 2022 13:46:52 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sat, 28 May 2022 13:46:52 +1200 From: Phil Sainty To: 55668@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, tor.kringeland@ntnu.no Subject: Re: bug#55668: Extending the `C-x 8' map to include macrons In-Reply-To: <83y1ynm177.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ilprv7f6.fsf@gmail.com> <834k1bnmix.fsf@gnu.org> <83y1ynm177.fsf@gnu.org> Message-ID: <5db961c542513ffc5a0ff256d4612004@webmail.orcon.net.nz> X-Sender: psainty@orcon.net.nz User-Agent: Orcon Webmail X-GeoIP: -- X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55668 Cc: kevin.legouguec@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 2022-05-28 03:42, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Tor Kringeland >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > Does the below fit the bill? >> It does --- thanks! > Thanks, installed. Nice. Just as an addendum: On 2022-05-27 17:51, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > It sounds like you want to search for letters with combining macron, > like ā and ō? If so, why not use a suitable input method to type > those letters? That is the standard way in Emacs to type characters > that are not on the keyboard. (If support for typing those characters > is missing from the input methods we have, we could relatively easily > add them.) I find the latin-4-postfix input method good for entering macrons: | postfix | examples ------------+---------+---------- macron | - | a- -> ā I have this configured as the default: ;; Latin-4 facilitates macron accents (e.g. a- => ā). ;; n.b. If `current-language-environment' is customized, it clobbers this. (setq default-input-method "latin-4-postfix") -Phil From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 06 05:53:40 2022 Received: (at 55668) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jun 2022 09:53:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34429 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ny9QZ-0007RH-Rm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2022 05:53:40 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f50.google.com ([209.85.221.50]:34775) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ny9QX-0007R2-Ag for 55668@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2022 05:53:39 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f50.google.com with SMTP id q26so8742343wra.1 for <55668@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 06 Jun 2022 02:53:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version; bh=EZrY+EKkbWHBOnCy5Rn0X87FpfXDIhUtYsgj1uyXQNs=; b=Y94UELLJs3kTrtB56c6AYGrPWiQPAcI18S6Th+6nbpgNNiViKkqJK31MNKoubWMPhR DJqbUS5F2P6lGi5yDBaBCG+tRkLozpoxEli3GEDd0zSun3+hFz4Z4MfMXhgGD0/xlYJW xUXFnlkNFVML6dZPe01piPbzfHjsRQuwC+QiNFmQ5wbNG5i0s6Bp5x3ll3TmhzjB2CA2 B0ecb24Usqe+zgUVETyPwWJZwfW7kjaR+DdtshZkJWLD+v4mcGzpNbxlrcTy7nmiHhU2 oNNHOeuEdPgebRoETuajIRWccWmkSra4RMuiqgjaPvePrpS+lWhtuEocerY6e67AO65M 2DIA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version; bh=EZrY+EKkbWHBOnCy5Rn0X87FpfXDIhUtYsgj1uyXQNs=; b=pPdF4Lwx0gzX8Wqdl+xdbKk6S76492uKGTkIfalK6mcSNPuahPbaQiVWCIkBUelpq4 Y6hHkYiRnRLmTv1byA3tYQ5/ieEufK+kUqQRdJ8KyW6yIINUhwI8I10p4VaQslc3CCaO AnKZO4pLcEFXWWbVnUDc7C0epfr6l4kA7WXnskq6IrzkVRWEu4dFFKZOxed6MNTQ+yJF +PShOtXAOq+VZJ0SIe9dlapnsRmQwa4tzG6NlYW0awXY+ZaTURva/XhEx2fYBc8SRSXk tWHhwr1YHT6GNHFJ7JLlSR2mIgo/vzYvvWXGW7wT+G4cIuVhTH7TLBZX1Jz5AaHb0Pon 14wA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM53023EkxKxFAdFfSkrj1HLGl1DA7itKOXs52JPEPLtEEs0hwNDcq yncSaJGnVfp1EjSs0BJoXxM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxwIY1TTT/6N4ekXtxuTQORUBj/VrXBM2qP/hgaQy9yJB5zAUSfbT/sZ5C646+8fJbPWS1JFw== X-Received: by 2002:adf:d205:0:b0:213:b49a:9fc7 with SMTP id j5-20020adfd205000000b00213b49a9fc7mr18124133wrh.589.1654509211317; Mon, 06 Jun 2022 02:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rltb ([2a01:e0a:3f3:fb50:8495:bb9e:c4b6:bac]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k7-20020a5d6d47000000b0020e5e906e47sm14638731wri.75.2022.06.06.02.53.29 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 06 Jun 2022 02:53:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Phil Sainty Subject: Re: bug#55668: Extending the `C-x 8' map to include macrons References: <87ilprv7f6.fsf@gmail.com> <834k1bnmix.fsf@gnu.org> <83y1ynm177.fsf@gnu.org> <5db961c542513ffc5a0ff256d4612004@webmail.orcon.net.nz> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2022 11:53:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: <5db961c542513ffc5a0ff256d4612004@webmail.orcon.net.nz> (Phil Sainty's message of "Sat, 28 May 2022 13:46:52 +1200") Message-ID: <87czfmxgme.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55668 Cc: tor.kringeland@ntnu.no, eliz@gnu.org, 55668@debbugs.gnu.org, kevin.legouguec@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (what is it about Monday mornings and character rabbit holes?) >>>>> On Sat, 28 May 2022 13:46:52 +1200, Phil Sainty said: Phil> I find the latin-4-postfix input method good for entering macrons: Phil> | postfix | examples Phil> ------------+---------+---------- Phil> macron | - | a- -> =C4=81 Yep. There were a couple missing from latin-postfix and C-x 8, and they wer= e all missing from latin-prefix, so I came up with the below. If the AE stuff is overkill, I can remove it. Robert --=20 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline; filename=0001-Add-more-characters-with-macron-in-C-x-8-map-and-lat.patch Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From f685eaf33b7c323604aaa581a1848979045521f9 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Robert Pluim Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2022 11:46:55 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] Add more characters with macron in C-x 8 map and latin inp= ut methods To: emacs-devel@gnu.org * lisp/international/iso-transl.el (iso-transl-char-map): Add sequences for {AE,ae,G,g} with macron. * lisp/leim/quail/latin-post.el ("latin-postfix"): Add missing entries for {AE,ae,G,g} with macron. * lisp/leim/quail/latin-pre.el ("latin-prefix"): Add entries for 'letter with macron' for {A,a,E,e,AE,ae,I,I,O,o,U,u,Y,y} with macron. (Bug#55668) --- lisp/international/iso-transl.el | 6 ++++++ lisp/leim/quail/latin-post.el | 7 +++++++ lisp/leim/quail/latin-pre.el | 18 ++++++++++++++++++ 3 files changed, 31 insertions(+) diff --git a/lisp/international/iso-transl.el b/lisp/international/iso-tran= sl.el index 3be80e5e6a..5243293312 100644 --- a/lisp/international/iso-transl.el +++ b/lisp/international/iso-transl.el @@ -123,10 +123,12 @@ iso-transl-char-map ("/A" . [?=C3=85]) ("/L" . [?=C5=81]) ("/E" . [?=C3=86]) + ("/=3DE" . [?=C7=A2]) ("/O" . [?=C3=98]) ("/a" . [?=C3=A5]) ("/l" . [?=C5=82]) ("/e" . [?=C3=A6]) + ("/=3De" . [?=C7=A3]) ("/o" . [?=C3=B8]) ("1/2" . [?=C2=BD]) ("1/4" . [?=C2=BC]) @@ -139,6 +141,10 @@ iso-transl-char-map ("=3Da" . [?=C4=81]) ("=3DE" . [?=C4=92]) ("=3De" . [?=C4=93]) + ("=3D/E" . [?=C7=A2]) + ("=3D/e" . [?=C7=A3]) + ("=3DG" . [?=E1=B8=A0]) + ("=3Dg" . [?=E1=B8=A1]) ("=3DI" . [?=C4=AA]) ("=3Di" . [?=C4=AB]) ("=3DO" . [?=C5=8C]) diff --git a/lisp/leim/quail/latin-post.el b/lisp/leim/quail/latin-post.el index acb3ef8ede..008c949f90 100644 --- a/lisp/leim/quail/latin-post.el +++ b/lisp/leim/quail/latin-post.el @@ -2239,6 +2239,7 @@ tilde | ~ | a~ -> =C3=A3 cedilla | , | c, -> =C3=A7 ogonek | , | a, -> =C4=85 + macron | - | a- -> =C4=81 g- -> =E1=B8=A1 e/- -> =C7=A3 breve | ~ | a~ -> =C4=83 caron | ~ | c~ -> =C4=8D dbl. acute | : | o: -> =C5=91 @@ -2284,11 +2285,14 @@ ("E-" ?=C4=92) ("E." ?=C4=96) ("E/" ?=C3=86) + ("E//" ?=C3=86) + ("E/-" ?=C7=A2) ("E\"" ?=C3=8B) ("E^" ?=C3=8A) ("E`" ?=C3=88) ("E~" ?=C4=9A) ("G," ?=C4=A2) + ("G-" ?=E1=B8=A0) ("G." ?=C4=A0) ("G^" ?=C4=9C) ("G~" ?=C4=9E) @@ -2374,12 +2378,15 @@ ("e-" ?=C4=93) ("e." ?=C4=97) ("e/" ?=C3=A6) + ("e//" ?=C3=A6) + ("e/-" ?=C7=A3) ("e\"" ?=C3=AB) ("e^" ?=C3=AA) ("e`" ?=C3=A8) ("e~" ?=C4=9B) ("e=3D" ?=E2=82=AC) ("g," ?=C4=A3) + ("g-" ?=E1=B8=A1) ("g." ?=C4=A1) ("g^" ?=C4=9D) ("g~" ?=C4=9F) diff --git a/lisp/leim/quail/latin-pre.el b/lisp/leim/quail/latin-pre.el index b6a26e0b2c..55435d5675 100644 --- a/lisp/leim/quail/latin-pre.el +++ b/lisp/leim/quail/latin-pre.el @@ -1104,6 +1104,7 @@ cedilla | , ~ | ,c -> =C3=A7 ~c -> =C3=A7 caron | ~ | ~c -> =C4=8D ~g -> =C4=9F breve | ~ | ~a -> =C4=83 + macron | - | -a -> =C4=81 -/e -> =C7=A3 -- -> =C2=AF dot above | / . | /g -> =C4=A1 .g -> =C4=A1 misc | \" ~ / | \"s -> =C3=9F ~d -> =C3=B0 ~t -> =C3=BE /a -> = =C3=A5 /e -> =C3=A6 /o -> =C3=B8 symbol | ~ | ~> -> =C2=BB ~< -> =C2=AB ~! -> =C2=A1 ~? -> = =C2=BF ~~ -> =C2=B8 @@ -1112,6 +1113,23 @@ " nil t nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil t) =20 (quail-define-rules + ("--" ?=C2=AF) + ("-A" ?=C4=80) + ("-a" ?=C4=81) + ("-E" ?=C4=92) + ("-e" ?=C4=93) + ("-/E" ?=C7=A2) + ("-/e" ?=C7=A3) + ("-G" ?=E1=B8=A0) + ("-g" ?=E1=B8=A1) + ("-I" ?=C4=AA) + ("-i" ?=C4=AB) + ("-O" ?=C5=8C) + ("-o" ?=C5=8D) + ("-U" ?=C5=AA) + ("-u" ?=C5=AB) + ("-Y" ?=C8=B2) + ("-y" ?=C8=B3) ("' " ?') 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