From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:01:55 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#55660 <55660@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#55660 <55660@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 29.0.50; PGTK degrades to terminal-compatible keyboard events Reply-To: bug#55660 <55660@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 21:01:55 +0000 retitle 55660 29.0.50; PGTK degrades to terminal-compatible keyboard events reassign 55660 emacs submitter 55660 Derek Upham severity 55660 normal tag 55660 moreinfo thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 26 10:43:59 2022 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 May 2022 14:43:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59723 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nuEiU-0006iI-UD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 May 2022 10:43:59 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:50786) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nuEiS-0006i9-0F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 May 2022 10:43:57 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41902) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nuEiQ-0008L4-5b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 May 2022 10:43:55 -0400 Received: from wilbur.contactoffice.com ([212.3.242.68]:57710) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nuEiK-000606-7g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 May 2022 10:43:53 -0400 Received: from smtpauth1.co-bxl (smtpauth1.co-bxl [10.2.0.15]) by wilbur.contactoffice.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A1CC8BD for ; Thu, 26 May 2022 16:43:43 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1653576223; s=20210208-e7xh; d=mailfence.com; i=derek_upham@mailfence.com; h=From:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; l=1668; bh=pkeTd0EBBbMD/0nFVk9Okr/VmwhK8P5apPNJvmd7LsE=; b=5SlRHvvpFTayuIwGptW4E+xyJ/EgeELoc1+brT3Dhu7kkGCE84qH3FZ7bGP/YDHP W5l6UX9UstBBWKm0Hi7S7t8ATkL1+1lZFjgaf7EWnmw1yaqcUp3iQi9TluBid4ywwJD xM4s9UFTrmAmvti/ckvl1+n17Nl5TnJWezSBW8VpkdqUVhf+RX5XRNlnBGFTLKGuHo3 t+W4r917A6xDMMR3MHD5KOENNNCfAQ78H3tm8diMFTOf8vbWnnMRvJlWHzkJf46F3zw wx9JCZcK6kjX8KF8FeRyY+UEf78nc8kffVfywMf+QhP8H/YdpolEmv1UsNBjEZwC5Br NIlKE5UohA== Received: by smtp.mailfence.com with ESMTPSA for ; Thu, 26 May 2022 16:43:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [::1] (helo=priss.frightenedpiglet.com) by priss.frightenedpiglet.com with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1nuEi9-005ec2-TA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 May 2022 07:43:37 -0700 From: Derek Upham To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 29.0.50; PGTK degrades to terminal-compatible keyboard events Date: Thu, 26 May 2022 07:43:37 -0700 Message-ID: <87bkvktkva.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.9 required=4.7 symbols=ALL_TRUSTED, BAYES_00, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE device=10.2.0.1 X-ContactOffice-Account: com:175140567 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.3.242.68; envelope-from=derek_upham@mailfence.com; helo=wilbur.contactoffice.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Meaningful control keys in ASCII are @, A-Z, [ \ ] ^ and _ (0x40 through 0x5f). VT100 terminals use the Control key to zero-out the top two bits of seven, leaving us with 2^5=32 characters. The above control keys happen to be a bank of 32 that are all graphical and easy to reach.) I have old notes to myself that say that VT100 terminals do a little extra mapping: Control and `?' (0x3f) sends the DEL keycode (0xff); Emacs itself seems to map Control and `/' (0x2f) to the same keycode as Control and `_' (0x1f)). Window system interfaces like GTK track individual keypresses, and Emacs supports binding other keys with Control: (global-set-key [(control ?<)] 'my-left-command) (global-set-key [(control ?>)] 'my-right-command) Some terminals even send special character sequences to Emacs that encode the Control modifier alongside the ">" character. Xterm is one of those, if you use the "xterm" terminal type. I was experimenting with Emacs configurations (in a weekly snapshot) and discovered that the PGTK interface does not support arbitrary Control modifiers. I can send any of the ASCII control keys listed above, but for all others PGTK ignores the Control modifier. Control-> turns into a plain ">", for example. These configuration options have the bug: --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-xwidgets=yes --with-pgtk=yes These configuration options understand Control-> correctly. --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-xwidgets=yes --with-pgtk=no I'm aware that PGTK is under active development and unreliable, and the immediate workaround is "stop using PGTK". 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 05691ec0aababc40a2dd01a972ddb30f; Fri, 27 May 2022 00:19:56 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Derek Upham Subject: Re: bug#55660: 29.0.50; PGTK degrades to terminal-compatible keyboard events References: <87bkvktkva.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2022 08:19:51 +0800 In-Reply-To: <87bkvktkva.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> (Derek Upham's message of "Thu, 26 May 2022 07:43:37 -0700") Message-ID: <87zgj3j07s.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20225 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 2072 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55660 Cc: 55660@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Derek Upham writes: > Meaningful control keys in ASCII are @, A-Z, [ \ ] ^ and _ (0x40 through > 0x5f). VT100 terminals use the Control key to zero-out the top two bits > of seven, leaving us with 2^5=32 characters. The above control keys > happen to be a bank of 32 that are all graphical and easy to reach.) I > have old notes to myself that say that VT100 terminals do a little extra > mapping: Control and `?' (0x3f) sends the DEL keycode (0xff); Emacs > itself seems to map Control and `/' (0x2f) to the same keycode as > Control and `_' (0x1f)). > > Window system interfaces like GTK track individual keypresses, and Emacs > supports binding other keys with Control: > > (global-set-key [(control ?<)] 'my-left-command) > (global-set-key [(control ?>)] 'my-right-command) > > Some terminals even send special character sequences to Emacs that > encode the Control modifier alongside the ">" character. Xterm is one > of those, if you use the "xterm" terminal type. > > I was experimenting with Emacs configurations (in a weekly snapshot) and > discovered that the PGTK interface does not support arbitrary Control > modifiers. I can send any of the ASCII control keys listed above, but > for all others PGTK ignores the Control modifier. Control-> turns into > a plain ">", for example. > > These configuration options have the bug: > > --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 > --with-xwidgets=yes > --with-pgtk=yes > > These configuration options understand Control-> correctly. > > --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 > --with-xwidgets=yes > --with-pgtk=no > > I'm aware that PGTK is under active development and unreliable, and the > immediate workaround is "stop using PGTK". > > Derek What happens if you turn off input method support, by evaluating (pgtk-use-im-context nil)? In general, these problems are not with Emacs, but with GTK input method modules, and should be reported to their developers instead. Emacs never "degrades" to "terminal-compatible" input events when using a window system. We directly use whatever it reports. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 26 21:13:57 2022 Received: (at 55660) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 May 2022 01:13:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60331 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nuOY9-0003jy-E7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 May 2022 21:13:57 -0400 Received: from wilbur.contactoffice.com ([212.3.242.68]:53230) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nuOY5-0003ji-Bs for 55660@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 May 2022 21:13:56 -0400 Received: from smtpauth1.co-bxl (smtpauth1.co-bxl [10.2.0.15]) by wilbur.contactoffice.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A196E6C; Fri, 27 May 2022 03:13:46 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1653614026; s=20210208-e7xh; d=mailfence.com; i=derek_upham@mailfence.com; h=References:From:Cc:In-reply-to:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; l=726; bh=uhvGEaSXkQQNA3aEbpyhpZi/3dvZOZQROMw868VIFr8=; b=UBvno1X72fNGBJJ38tqiUAScEzDxSVRAAmBQSN/GcF6whKoVXADGKcY+KOCn80He +H3/FJOBZeTTeJvcYyrgffaqDqVpukvnovDTny4kd3T+7yTDuQ5cT4ldMDjnXhiJIPL GGfIxp+tBekcEhkPoOSeyUeuagLn+IZlo9xqBYdkGQP88j0nr2wRFfY7+zSN6B0Adwp JnClZlz7995XBYALr2Mdq5mDGiMMY/fsQcwITuv/XmNcFlqDySdVapTZU9qJbuSMlVy ESBl+9uGzS2I3iIGwkF1zZK9XBa+wFVj4P1wWOTHxZaK+0i/r/G9Tb4q3KDNOhG/sev Q2wzvS0dNw== Received: by smtp.mailfence.com with ESMTPSA ; Fri, 27 May 2022 03:13:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [::1] (helo=priss.frightenedpiglet.com) by priss.frightenedpiglet.com with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1nuOXt-0060Vf-VH; Thu, 26 May 2022 18:13:41 -0700 References: <87bkvktkva.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> <87zgj3j07s.fsf@yahoo.com> User-agent: mu4e 1.4.8; emacs 29.0.50 From: Derek Upham To: Po Lu Subject: Re: bug#55660: 29.0.50; PGTK degrades to terminal-compatible keyboard events In-reply-to: <87zgj3j07s.fsf@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2022 18:13:41 -0700 Message-ID: <87mtf3dbga.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=4.7 symbols=ALL_TRUSTED, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE device=10.2.0.21 X-ContactOffice-Account: com:175140567 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55660 Cc: 55660@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Po Lu writes: > What happens if you turn off input method support, by evaluating > (pgtk-use-im-context nil)? In general, these problems are not=20 > with > Emacs, but with GTK input method modules, and should be reported=20 > to > their developers instead. > > Emacs never "degrades" to "terminal-compatible" input events=20 > when using > a window system. We directly use whatever it reports. Calling that function restores normal rich events. I=E2=80=99m using Ubuntu 20.04. The distro installs ibus-gtk3 as part of=20 the normal desktop experience, but I haven=E2=80=99t configured it.=20 =E2=80=9Cim-config=E2=80=9D reports that it=E2=80=99s using the default en_= US locale. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID efadedee03abf4a1d5a9e829492faeb0; Fri, 27 May 2022 01:59:47 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Derek Upham Subject: Re: bug#55660: 29.0.50; PGTK degrades to terminal-compatible keyboard events References: <87bkvktkva.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> <87zgj3j07s.fsf@yahoo.com> <87mtf3dbga.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2022 09:59:43 +0800 In-Reply-To: <87mtf3dbga.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> (Derek Upham's message of "Thu, 26 May 2022 18:13:41 -0700") Message-ID: <87v8trivlc.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20225 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 450 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55660 Cc: 55660@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Derek Upham writes: > Calling that function restores normal rich events. > > I=E2=80=99m using Ubuntu 20.04. The distro installs ibus-gtk3 as part of= the > normal desktop experience, but I haven=E2=80=99t configured it. =E2=80=9C= im-config=E2=80=9D > reports that it=E2=80=99s using the default en_US locale. Then this is a duplicate of bug#53200 (and many other similar issues). Would someone please merge the two? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 27 01:54:13 2022 Received: (at 55660) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 May 2022 05:54:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60661 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nuSvN-0002dA-DJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2022 01:54:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37758) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nuSvI-0002cq-T3; Fri, 27 May 2022 01:54:12 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:52348) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nuSvD-0001To-7p; Fri, 27 May 2022 01:54:03 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=lRdbcGkMZb0C+/Me1yFueLJL9WyurubEGjJriX0dO1w=; b=sRrVHbP/W8qWxWKUA/u2 wDzejtem0RcTvb1/HHuZ1ZmFGNxNi0tUdDiir2gIGDMqPZeDW2Qq8jfX/rcqxvAHeEv+cbPool17K 45GVFJThNL/APLsYii5+goqUccsdaWu2Di6AG8LexNA+BYhVnoHZ/+QtythERu5zC/9FH+Z8Ox2y5 ZXWajKF0jc8yRJAAfGYVrc0qX0R6UyueE1plqZOMSPXG5m+llZgU6+bNMtPGDgI74EGxkad5+c314 Gx12po9vhJmVr5vA2bTQJT9HKTLiPwkFNsgS03hTmoaHGLGFA9AZP/4Lq/dMDm7GAfVfR7QA4LEu8 S828Y92ikil5Ew==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3605 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nuSvC-0007Op-G9; Fri, 27 May 2022 01:54:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 May 2022 08:53:57 +0300 Message-Id: <83ee0fo70q.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Po Lu In-Reply-To: <87v8trivlc.fsf@yahoo.com> (bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org) Subject: Re: bug#55660: 29.0.50; PGTK degrades to terminal-compatible keyboard events References: <87bkvktkva.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> <87zgj3j07s.fsf@yahoo.com> <87mtf3dbga.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> <87v8trivlc.fsf@yahoo.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55660 Cc: 55660@debbugs.gnu.org, derek_upham@mailfence.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) merge 55660 53200 thanks > Cc: 55660@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 27 May 2022 09:59:43 +0800 > From: Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" > > Derek Upham writes: > > > Calling that function restores normal rich events. > > > > I’m using Ubuntu 20.04. The distro installs ibus-gtk3 as part of the > > normal desktop experience, but I haven’t configured it. “im-config” > > reports that it’s using the default en_US locale. > > Then this is a duplicate of bug#53200 (and many other similar issues). > Would someone please merge the two? Done (and anyone can easily do that). Should this issue be in PROBLEMS? 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 862018977891cea89aa2ac6d669b9806; Fri, 27 May 2022 06:06:40 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#55660: 29.0.50; PGTK degrades to terminal-compatible keyboard events References: <87bkvktkva.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> <87zgj3j07s.fsf@yahoo.com> <87mtf3dbga.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> <87v8trivlc.fsf@yahoo.com> <83ee0fo70q.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 27 May 2022 14:06:34 +0800 In-Reply-To: <83ee0fo70q.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 27 May 2022 08:53:57 +0300") Message-ID: <87pmjzik5x.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20225 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 206 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55660 Cc: 55660@debbugs.gnu.org, derek_upham@mailfence.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Done (and anyone can easily do that). Thanks for showing the procedure. > Should this issue be in PROBLEMS? I guess so, I will probably write an entry in a while. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 27 03:07:34 2022 Received: (at 55660) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 May 2022 07:07:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60789 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nuU4M-0006mt-70 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2022 03:07:34 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52022) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nuU4K-0006mi-OH for 55660@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2022 03:07:33 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53068) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nuU4D-0005OR-EH; Fri, 27 May 2022 03:07:26 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=H70IRoHsqJZSOMCj07AuiCShig4444FVkMZJfATNeIQ=; b=fEr9Bts+sNBx Zf9RlOL51VeoTXS0iMrCEhBi6XwijM3C+qMB9NHi2ckabqAIQ/r9hBctGnz3jZLNIrTc2lVY8Zfbd 56AEQeMrU3K/dUYu0GzqkqRFzQIltrkfRllo5luOT08C+g6MHnFFxz1hJecvXP6nNoi5LFSEg6SP4 qhnU94aDFZWxli+Zf+dUpd5JQ0m9iVlBYZzTqqec5XKZegs4ZE35WunDWxYWKSfW/0gKm5h2V6Izv 14NxShvzKIMJhd1OsZGPDTL4lbRutf5TsqOfpxyjGEuzS0cBrRcwcv9eA0y8KniV6QzRo0k1b0OpE xphaesfeAV4yiLXuetbQrw==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4123 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nuU4C-0000Hd-2M; Fri, 27 May 2022 03:07:24 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 May 2022 10:07:18 +0300 Message-Id: <838rqno3mh.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Po Lu In-Reply-To: <87pmjzik5x.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Fri, 27 May 2022 14:06:34 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#55660: 29.0.50; PGTK degrades to terminal-compatible keyboard events References: <87bkvktkva.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> <87zgj3j07s.fsf@yahoo.com> <87mtf3dbga.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> <87v8trivlc.fsf@yahoo.com> <83ee0fo70q.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmjzik5x.fsf@yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55660 Cc: 55660@debbugs.gnu.org, derek_upham@mailfence.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Po Lu > Cc: derek_upham@mailfence.com, 55660@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 27 May 2022 14:06:34 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Should this issue be in PROBLEMS? > > I guess so, I will probably write an entry in a while. Thanks, but shouldn't the heading line of the entry you added be qualified with "in PGTK builds"? or maybe "in GTK and PGTK builds"? 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID ae283a04ffbd2f96b0136f08cb4c7e17; Fri, 27 May 2022 08:00:24 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#55660: 29.0.50; PGTK degrades to terminal-compatible keyboard events References: <87bkvktkva.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> <87zgj3j07s.fsf@yahoo.com> <87mtf3dbga.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> <87v8trivlc.fsf@yahoo.com> <83ee0fo70q.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmjzik5x.fsf@yahoo.com> <838rqno3mh.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 27 May 2022 16:00:18 +0800 In-Reply-To: <838rqno3mh.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 27 May 2022 10:07:18 +0300") Message-ID: <87ee0fiewd.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20225 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 232 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55660 Cc: 55660@debbugs.gnu.org, derek_upham@mailfence.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Thanks, but shouldn't the heading line of the entry you added be > qualified with "in PGTK builds"? or maybe "in GTK and PGTK builds"? It's already under "Runtime problems specific to PGTK". From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 27 11:53:50 2022 Received: (at 55660) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 May 2022 15:53:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35649 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nucHe-0006uH-E6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2022 11:53:50 -0400 Received: from wilbur.contactoffice.com ([212.3.242.68]:36064) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nucHa-0006tz-Ft for 55660@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2022 11:53:48 -0400 Received: from smtpauth1.co-bxl (smtpauth1.co-bxl [10.2.0.15]) by wilbur.contactoffice.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23A2EF6; Fri, 27 May 2022 17:53:40 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1653666820; s=20210208-e7xh; d=mailfence.com; i=derek_upham@mailfence.com; h=References:From:Cc:In-reply-to:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; l=1323; bh=chbyz/+IhxV3fpHbKYv+diSfZN834pTcgrvs4E1MMnU=; b=dBFnOhFGf7PnN4noozxM4kwLgGAxtJcOkIVMQXq26fqtptzvhqRIVM9MaSHjqJgo pp1vbNNPJQTN1E/CGzL/QvY6XPxChFHCWjuUAaivuw0o+jgjw5qwnP7M4bfyezy02tp OZVJJrA68IhKykiuAIuOD9Yn8piiWzk0s3dMe3pn6+BTV0YQR1JTGpEzkmCiKvCeK50 4IMcep/wMLZqC2Eh61FNmFVIf0JBFPhwpudE0N1WWmXzDt671kvks1f9nDZ+ptR/c12 JRvz+FICioCyIYmwE0siARrlNzF+7YmHxGot4nDI1d35MmvLY7sAxDYOLdUT9iUkoEM rRfc4+IHAg== Received: by smtp.mailfence.com with ESMTPSA ; Fri, 27 May 2022 17:53:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [::1] (helo=priss.frightenedpiglet.com) by priss.frightenedpiglet.com with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1nucHP-006TMU-Kq; Fri, 27 May 2022 08:53:35 -0700 References: <87bkvktkva.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> <87zgj3j07s.fsf@yahoo.com> <87mtf3dbga.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> <87v8trivlc.fsf@yahoo.com> <83ee0fo70q.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmjzik5x.fsf@yahoo.com> <838rqno3mh.fsf@gnu.org> <87ee0fiewd.fsf@yahoo.com> User-agent: mu4e 1.4.8; emacs 29.0.50 From: Derek Upham To: Po Lu Subject: Re: bug#55660: 29.0.50; PGTK degrades to terminal-compatible keyboard events In-reply-to: <87ee0fiewd.fsf@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2022 08:53:35 -0700 Message-ID: <87ee0fc6ps.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=4.7 symbols=ALL_TRUSTED, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE device=10.2.0.21 X-ContactOffice-Account: com:175140567 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55660 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 55660@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Po Lu writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> Thanks, but shouldn't the heading line of the entry you added >> be >> qualified with "in PGTK builds"? or maybe "in GTK and PGTK >> builds"? > > It's already under "Runtime problems specific to PGTK". How about this? ** Keyboard behavior depends on your GTK input method The GTK3 libraries may interpret and process keypresses as part of the current GTK input method, before passing them as input events to Emacs. GTK applications like PGTK Emacs configure their input method automatically based on environment variables, particularly LANG and GTK_IM_MODULE. If you notice differences in keyboard behavior depending on how you start PGTK Emacs, compare your environments using `process-environment'. For example, you may see behavior differences when running Emacs out of a systemd unit file, compared to running Emacs from the command line. Input methods may also cause the keyboard behavior to change if you switch from a GTK-based build to a PGTK-based build. Emacs may reveal bugs that are in the input method libraries. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 1cb8b1a6d6914720b3b18f498089072b; Sat, 28 May 2022 00:41:56 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Derek Upham Subject: Re: bug#55660: 29.0.50; PGTK degrades to terminal-compatible keyboard events References: <87bkvktkva.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> <87zgj3j07s.fsf@yahoo.com> <87mtf3dbga.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> <87v8trivlc.fsf@yahoo.com> <83ee0fo70q.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmjzik5x.fsf@yahoo.com> <838rqno3mh.fsf@gnu.org> <87ee0fiewd.fsf@yahoo.com> <87ee0fc6ps.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> Date: Sat, 28 May 2022 08:41:51 +0800 In-Reply-To: <87ee0fc6ps.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> (Derek Upham's message of "Fri, 27 May 2022 08:53:35 -0700") Message-ID: <87r14eebe8.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20225 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 1415 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55660 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 55660@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Derek Upham writes: > How about this? > > ** Keyboard behavior depends on your GTK input method > > The GTK3 libraries may interpret and process keypresses as part of the > current GTK input method, before passing them as input events to > Emacs. > GTK applications like PGTK Emacs configure their input method > automatically based on environment variables, particularly LANG and > GTK_IM_MODULE. > > If you notice differences in keyboard behavior depending on how you > start PGTK Emacs, compare your environments using > `process-environment'. > For example, you may see behavior differences when running Emacs out > of > a systemd unit file, compared to running Emacs from the command line. > Input methods may also cause the keyboard behavior to change if you > switch from a GTK-based build to a PGTK-based build. > > Emacs may reveal bugs that are in the input method libraries. Those > libraries are out of Emacs's control, but you can tell PGTK Emacs to > bypass input methods entirely using an Emacs Lisp function: > > M-: (pgtk-use-im-context nil) No, that doesn't describe the problem very well. `process-environment' is certainly completely unrelated, and the description is much more vague, with no examples of what can go wrong with faulty input methods. The first half of the entry also describes a different problem, which has already been in PROBLEMS for a while. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 53e123123f7b4bc973903ad82a78b16d; Tue, 13 Sep 2022 02:30:58 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Tom Hughes Subject: Re: bug#51002: 28.0.50; [feature/pgtk] Some keypad keys handled as normal keys with pgtk References: <87v92d9qbv.fsf@bericote.compton.nu> <87leqoanuw.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2022 10:30:50 +0800 In-Reply-To: (Tom Hughes's message of "Mon, 12 Sep 2022 17:28:10 +0100") Message-ID: <87bkrk2eg5.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20612 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 317 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , control@debbugs.gnu.org, 51002@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) forcemerge 51002 53200 thanks Tom Hughes writes: > This still seems to happen on master, yes. 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