Subject: 23.1.92; Don't change the default operation of emacs

From: Warren L Dodge <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:47:53 -0800

Well I am reporting this as a bug as it drives me nuts. I have no idea
what all the reasons for these changes I noticed in either 23.1 or
23.1.92 are. But here is a users opinion on them.

When you have people using emacs the new versions shouldn't change
anything. They are setup to do a job and need to continue on without
spending a day figuring out what new items to disable. Many people are
setup by someone else and they don't have a clue as to how to fix it. So
their setup person has to spend time with them to sort it out. Advertise
the new stuff in NEWS and let people enable it if they want.

some of the things that I caught right away

mail-mode versus message mode
          colors ( can't see them good because of the colors I have set)
          message mail send slower
          mail not put in FCC file

babyl format to mbox format

split left/right versus top/bottom

I assume ther are more but I went back to 22.3

In GNU Emacs 23.1.92.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.6)
 of 2010-02-09 on zephyr
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.60802000
configured using `configure  '--prefix=/tools/wdtgnu/emacs-23.1.92' '--disable-nls''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: C
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: C
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: nil
  default enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
g SPC a n SPC e m a i l SPC t a k e s SPC m u c h SPC 
l o n g SPC t h e m <backspace> n SPC p r e v i o u 
s SPC e m a c s SPC v e r s i o n <return> <return> 
e m a c s - 2 3 . 1 . 9 2 SPC - Q <return> c - x SPC 
m <return> <return> f i l l SPC i n SPC T O ; <backspace> 
<backspace> o : SPC t o SPC b e SPC m y U s e r N a 
m e <return> <return> c - c SPC c - c <return> <return> 
O <backspace> I t SPC t a k e s SPC a SPC f e w SPC 
s e c o n d s SPC t o SPC s e n d SPC t h i s SPC e 
m a i l SPC v e r s u s SPC a l m o s t SPC i n s t 
a n t l y SPC SPC i n SPC p r e v i o u s SPC e m a 
c s SPC v e r s i o n s . <return> <return> <help-echo> 
T h i s SPC w i l l SPC b e SPC a SPC b i g SPC p a 
i n SPC f o r SPC t h e SPC w a y SPC I S-SPC w o r 
k . <return> C-c C-g C-g C-x C-s C-x C-g C-g C-c C-c 
y e s <return> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> 
<help-echo> <help-echo> <escape> x r e o <backspace> 
p <tab> o <tab> r <tab> <return>

Recent messages:
Checking for load-path shadows...done
Auto-saving...done
Quit
Saving file /login/warrend/Mail/drafts/*message*-20100210-133256...
Wrote /login/warrend/Mail/drafts/*message*-20100210-133256
Quit
Sending...
Sending via mail...
Sending...done
Making completion list... [2 times]

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Warren Dodge,   Application Engineer phone - (503) 627-4888
Tektronix Inc.  MS 39-515            fax   - (503) 627-2528
14180 S.W. Karl Braun Drive          Email - [email-masked]
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