From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:24:41 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#5558 <5558@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#5558 <5558@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 23.1.92; sending an email takes much long then previous emacs version Reply-To: bug#5558 <5558@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 17:24:41 +0000 retitle 5558 23.1.92; sending an email takes much long then previous emacs = version reassign 5558 emacs submitter 5558 Warren L Dodge severity 5558 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 10 16:44:00 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2010 21:44:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NfKLn-0003K3-PF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:44:00 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NfKDg-0003CJ-FP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:35:04 -0800 Received: (from warrend@localhost) by lwe127084.central.tektronix.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id o1ALYxGU029729; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:34:59 -0800 From: Warren L Dodge To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 23.1.92; sending an email takes much long then previous emacs version Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:34:59 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-CETC-MailScanner-Information: Please contact ecmail@mdhost.cse.tek.com for more information X-CETC-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CETC-MailScanner-SpamCheck: spam X-MailScanner-From: warrend@tektronix.com X-Reverse-DNS: igate.tek.com X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1+ X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:43:58 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) emacs-23.1.92 -Q c-x m fill in To: to be myUserName c-c c-c It takes a few seconds to send this email versus almost instantly in previous emacs versions. This will be a big pain for the way I work. In GNU Emacs 23.1.92.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.6) of 2010-02-09 on zephyr Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.60802000 configured using `configure '--prefix=/tools/wdtgnu/emacs-23.1.92' '--disable-nls'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: C value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: C value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: nil default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: C-x m w a r r e n d C-c C-c x e m a c s r e p o r t SPC e Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. 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Box 500 Beaverton, OR 97077 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 11 15:09:38 2010 Received: (at 5558) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2010 20:09:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NffM2-0002uZ-1p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:09:38 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NffLz-0002uO-Rp for 5558@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:09:36 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NffLv-0000gy-D4; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:09:31 -0500 To: Warren L Dodge Subject: Re: bug#5558: 23.1.92; sending an email takes much long then previous emacs version References: From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: Peking Islam Abduganievich Karimov M-14 Zachawi X-Ran: sZ?sCDK8$Ic,2]fr3*@:5|NUtf^ao;A2['9^~-q}aAX2C~Z9K3_2O-")p%MqbT"T-1ZLaJ X-Hue: green X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:09:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Warren L. Dodge's message of "Wed\, 10 Feb 2010 13\:34\:59 -0800") Message-ID: <8ceikr7cw4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5558 Cc: 5558@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) Warren L Dodge wrote: > emacs-23.1.92 -Q > c-x m > > fill in To: to be myUserName > > c-c c-c > > It takes a few seconds to send this email versus almost instantly in > previous emacs versions. What does C-h v message-send-mail-function say? What value did you use for send-mail-function in Emacs 22.3? Does it help to set message-send-mail-function to that value? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 11 15:34:08 2010 Received: (at 5558) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2010 20:34:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nffjj-0003Cn-Un for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:34:08 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NffjP-0003CD-5I for 5558@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:33:59 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NffjL-0001ny-2E for 5558@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:33:43 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <19316.27046.980177.610314@fencepost.gnu.org> Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:33:42 -0500 Resent-From: Glenn Morris Resent-To: 5558@debbugs.gnu.org Bcc: rgm@gnu.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on monty-python X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO, RECEIVED_FROM_WINDOWS_HOST autolearn=no version=3.1.0 X-SpamScore: -31 X-BigFish: VPS-31(z21eWz1432R98dNzz1202hzzz2dh6bh61h) Message-ID: <201002112023.o1BKNIgh017684@lwe127084.central.tektronix.net> In-Reply-To: <8ceikr7cw4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Glenn Morris on Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:09:31 -0500) References: <8ceikr7cw4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-CETC-MailScanner-Information: Please contact ecmail@mdhost.cse.tek.com for more information X-CETC-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CETC-MailScanner-SpamCheck: spam X-MailScanner-From: warrend@tektronix.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Reverse-DNS: igate.tek.com X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1+ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:23:18 -0800 From: Warren Dodge To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#5558: 23.1.92; sending an email takes much long then previous emacs version X-Bogosity: no, spamicity=0.027359, v1.1.5 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:33:43 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5558 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: warren.l.dodge@Tektronix.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) emacs-23.1.92 -Q c-x m C-h v message-send-mail-function message-send-mail-function is a variable defined in `message.el'. Its value is message-send-mail-with-sendmail When I do the c-c c-c it says "Sending via mail ...." emacs-22.3 -Q c-x m -h v send-mail-function send-mail-function is a variable defined in `.../emacs-22.3/share/emacs/22.3/lisp/mail/sendmail.elc'. Its value is sendmail-send-it > CC: 5558@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Glenn Morris > Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:09:31 -0500 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Warren L Dodge wrote: > > > emacs-23.1.92 -Q > > c-x m > > > > fill in To: to be myUserName > > > > c-c c-c > > > > It takes a few seconds to send this email versus almost instantly in > > previous emacs versions. > > What does > > C-h v message-send-mail-function > > say? emacs-23.1.92 -Q c-x m C-h v message-send-mail-function message-send-mail-function is a variable defined in `message.el'. Its value is message-send-mail-with-sendmail When I do the c-c c-c it says "Sending via mail ...." > > What value did you use for send-mail-function in Emacs 22.3? > emacs-22.3 -Q c-x m -h v send-mail-function send-mail-function is a variable defined in `.../emacs-22.3/share/emacs/22.3/lisp/mail/sendmail.elc'. Its value is sendmail-send-it > Does it help to set message-send-mail-function to that value? > > That value is not available in the customize list. Operate on all settings in this buffer that are not marked HIDDEN: Set for current session Undo edits Reset to saved Exit Message Send Mail Function: Hide Value (*) message-send-mail-with-sendmail Send off the prepared buffer with sendmail. ( ) message-send-mail-with-mh Send the prepared message buffer with mh. ( ) message-send-mail-with-qmail Pass the prepared message buffer to qmail-inject. More ( ) message-smtpmail-send-it Send the prepared message buffer with `smtpmail-send-it'. More ( ) smtpmail-send-it Not documented More ( ) feedmail-send-it Send the current mail buffer using the Feedmail package. More ( ) message-send-mail-with-mailclient Send the prepared message buffer with `mailclient-send-it'. More ( ) Other: ignore State: EDITED, shown value does not take effect until you set or save it. Function to call to send the current buffer as mail. Hide Rest The headers should be delimited by a line whose contents match the variable `mail-header-separator'. Valid values include `message-send-mail-with-sendmail' `message-send-mail-with-mh', `message-send-mail-with-qmail', `message-smtpmail-send-it', `smtpmail-send-it', `feedmail-send-it' and `message-send-mail-with-mailclient'. The default is system dependent and determined by the function `message-send-mail-function'. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 11 15:59:17 2010 Received: (at 5558) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2010 20:59:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nfg84-0003YN-V7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:59:17 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nfg83-0003YI-Nw for 5558@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:59:15 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nfg7z-0002hJ-37; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:59:11 -0500 To: warren.l.dodge@Tektronix.com Subject: Re: bug#5558: 23.1.92; sending an email takes much long then previous emacs version References: <8ceikr7cw4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <201002112023.o1BKNIgh017684@lwe127084.central.tektronix.net> From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: Mole monarchist Rubin jihad kibo lynch TWA Vince Foster X-Ran: #'DGJ2>>9X`qOogehVa2z.Y,+:(?XUa,)X_v0tR[eI$Ew{7%j+I&(Bz8sOISo{XF_mSan6 X-Hue: magenta X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:59:10 -0500 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5558 Cc: 5558@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) [ Please keep 5558 in the cc ] Warren Dodge wrote: > emacs-22.3 -Q > c-x m > -h v send-mail-function > > send-mail-function is a variable defined in `.../emacs-22.3/share/emacs/22.3/lisp/mail/sendmail.elc'. > Its value is sendmail-send-it I wasn't asking about the -Q value, I was asking if you had customized it (eg to smtpmail-send-it). If so, try using that value for message. If you haven't customized it, this is not relevant. Did this problem also occur in 23.1, or is it new in 23.1.92? If it occurs in 23.1, does it make a difference to set mail-interactive to nil? If new in 23.1.92, does it make a difference to set message-interactive to nil? If new in 23.1.92, is it still slow if you (setq mail-user-agent 'sendmail-user-agent) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 11 16:31:09 2010 Received: (at 5558) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2010 21:31:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nfgcv-0003xI-CS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:31:09 -0500 Received: from va3ehsobe003.messaging.microsoft.com ([216.32.180.13] helo=VA3EHSOBE003.bigfish.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nfgcr-0003wo-2E for 5558@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:31:07 -0500 Received: from mail125-va3-R.bigfish.com (10.7.14.235) by VA3EHSOBE003.bigfish.com (10.7.40.23) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.240.5; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:31:01 +0000 Received: from mail125-va3 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail125-va3-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE1E3B0087; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:30:59 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: -36 X-BigFish: VPS-36(z21eWz1432R98dN936eMzz1202hzzz2dh6bh61h) X-Spam-TCS-SCL: 0:0 Received: from mail125-va3 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail125-va3 (MessageSwitch) id 1265923859613998_9459; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:30:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from VA3EHSMHS026.bigfish.com (unknown [10.7.14.241]) by mail125-va3.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705035D0021; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:30:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from igate.tek.com (192.65.41.20) by VA3EHSMHS026.bigfish.com (10.7.99.36) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.0.482.39; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:30:57 +0000 Received: from tektronix.tek.com (tektronix.tek.com [128.181.6.43]) by igate.tek.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o1BLUujK026404; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:30:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mdhost.cse.tek.com (mdhost.cse.tek.com [128.181.15.25]) by tektronix.tek.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o1BLUu0E016297; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:30:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lwe127084.cse.tek.com (IDENT:U2FsdGVkX1/ZDWOHExAJTq0GRpfaHrZaK/H6m8z0baw@lwe127084.central.tektronix.net [134.62.77.12]) by mdhost.cse.tek.com (8.12.3(P3.3.2003)/8.13.4) with ESMTP id o1BLUrb6017316; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:30:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from lwe127084.central.tektronix.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lwe127084.cse.tek.com (8.13.1/8.12.3) with ESMTP id o1BLUrj0020554; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:30:53 -0800 Received: (from warrend@localhost) by lwe127084.central.tektronix.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id o1BLUmb4020551; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:30:48 -0800 Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:30:48 -0800 Message-ID: <201002112130.o1BLUmb4020551@lwe127084.central.tektronix.net> From: Warren Dodge To: Glenn Morris In-Reply-To: (message from Glenn Morris on Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:59:10 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#5558: 23.1.92; sending an email takes much long then previous emacs version References: <8ceikr7cw4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <201002112023.o1BKNIgh017684@lwe127084.central.tektronix.net> X-CETC-MailScanner-Information: Please contact ecmail@mdhost.cse.tek.com for more information X-CETC-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CETC-MailScanner-SpamCheck: spam X-MailScanner-From: warrend@tektronix.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Reverse-DNS: igate.tek.com X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5558 Cc: 5558@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: warren.l.dodge@Tektronix.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) > CC: 5558@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Glenn Morris > Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:59:10 -0500 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > [ Please keep 5558 in the cc ] > > Warren Dodge wrote: > > > emacs-22.3 -Q > > c-x m > > -h v send-mail-function > > > > send-mail-function is a variable defined in `.../emacs-22.3/share/emacs/22.3/lisp/mail/sendmail.elc'. > > Its value is sendmail-send-it > > I wasn't asking about the -Q value, I was asking if you had customized > it (eg to smtpmail-send-it). If so, try using that value for message. > If you haven't customized it, this is not relevant. > I have not customised it > Did this problem also occur in 23.1, or is it new in 23.1.92? > Yes > If it occurs in 23.1, does it make a difference to set > mail-interactive to nil? > If I set it in the scratch buffer the first c-x m c-c c-c is fast If I set the value once in the *mail* buffer. Yes it is real quick with that > If new in 23.1.92, does it make a difference to set > message-interactive to nil? If I set it in the scratch buffer the first c-x m c-c c-c is slow but the second is fast If I set the value once in the *mail* buffer. It is real quick with the first c-c c-c > > If new in 23.1.92, is it still slow if you > > (setq mail-user-agent 'sendmail-user-agent) > > It isn't new in23.1.92 but yes is it slow with this setting From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 12 00:22:59 2010 Received: (at 5558-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Feb 2010 05:22:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NfnzW-0000pK-Hu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:22:58 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NfnzU-0000pD-Io for 5558-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:22:56 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NfnzQ-0000f7-4y; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:22:52 -0500 To: 5558-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#5558: 23.1.92; sending an email takes much long then previous emacs version References: <8ceikr7cw4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <201002112023.o1BKNIgh017684@lwe127084.central.tektronix.net> <201002112130.o1BLUmb4020551@lwe127084.central.tektronix.net> From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: TELINT top secret Skipjack SSL CID import national X-Ran: G=Nh+-'(aVQfe8$-kO&dYwAR*n.G*DbW{jA3BY+d6n+8uB.)#,C>IH$gb\m#Q=@h8e4Az2 X-Hue: cyan X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:22:52 -0500 In-Reply-To: <201002112130.o1BLUmb4020551@lwe127084.central.tektronix.net> (Warren Dodge's message of "Thu\, 11 Feb 2010 13\:30\:48 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5558-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) OK, so it sounds like the issue here was the change of the default value of `mail-interactive' from nil to t in Emacs 23.1. This should have been in NEWS but was not (added now). It means that Emacs will wait for the sendmail process to return and report any errors, rather than returning immediately and letting sendmail send a mail in case of error. If it causes unacceptable delays for you, just set it back to nil. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 12 02:27:09 2010 Received: (at 5558) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Feb 2010 07:27:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nfpvh-0002He-A3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:27:09 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nfpve-0002HD-V5 for 5558@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:27:07 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAFaRdEtLd+Rw/2dsb2JhbACbAHW/DYRYBIMTh2I X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,458,1262581200"; d="scan'208";a="55928721" Received: from 75-119-228-112.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([75.119.228.112]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 12 Feb 2010 02:27:03 -0500 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 0E445B4270; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:27:02 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: 5558@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#5558: 23.1.92; sending an email takes much long then previous emacs version Message-ID: References: <8ceikr7cw4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <201002112023.o1BKNIgh017684@lwe127084.central.tektronix.net> <201002112130.o1BLUmb4020551@lwe127084.central.tektronix.net> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:27:02 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:22:52 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5558 Cc: Glenn Morris X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > OK, so it sounds like the issue here was the change of the default > value of `mail-interactive' from nil to t in Emacs 23.1. This should > have been in NEWS but was not (added now). > It means that Emacs will wait for the sendmail process to return and > report any errors, rather than returning immediately and letting > sendmail send a mail in case of error. If it causes unacceptable > delays for you, just set it back to nil. BTW, shouldn't we have it set to `async' instead (which probably requires implementing the corresponding feature)? Stefan From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:24:41 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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