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23.1.92; sending an email takes much long then previous emacs version

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From: Warren L Dodge <warrend <at> Tektronix.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 23.1.92; sending an email takes much long then previous emacs version
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:34:59 -0800

emacs-23.1.92 -Q
c-x m

fill in To: to be myUserName

c-c c-c

It takes a few seconds to send this email versus almost instantly  in
previous emacs versions.

This will be a big pain for the way I work.



In GNU Emacs 23.1.92.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.6)
 of 2010-02-09 on zephyr
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.60802000
configured using `configure  '--prefix=/tools/wdtgnu/emacs-23.1.92' '--disable-nls''

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-- 
Warren Dodge,   Application Engineer phone - (503) 627-4888
Tektronix Inc.  MS 39-515            fax   - (503) 627-2528
14180 S.W. Karl Braun Drive          Email - warren.l.dodge <at> tektronix.com
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Message #8 received at 5558 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Warren L Dodge <warrend <at> Tektronix.com>
Cc: 5558 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#5558: 23.1.92;
	sending an email takes much long then previous emacs version
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:09:31 -0500

Warren L Dodge wrote:

> emacs-23.1.92 -Q
> c-x m
>
> fill in To: to be myUserName
>
> c-c c-c
>
> It takes a few seconds to send this email versus almost instantly  in
> previous emacs versions.

What does 

C-h v message-send-mail-function

say?

What value did you use for send-mail-function in Emacs 22.3?

Does it help to set message-send-mail-function to that value?

Message #11 received at 5558 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Warren Dodge <warren.l.dodge <at> Tektronix.com>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#5558: 23.1.92;
	sending an email takes much long then previous emacs version
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:23:18 -0800

emacs-23.1.92 -Q
c-x m
C-h v message-send-mail-function

message-send-mail-function is a variable defined in `message.el'.
Its value is 
message-send-mail-with-sendmail


When I do the c-c c-c it says "Sending via mail ...."




emacs-22.3 -Q
c-x m
-h v send-mail-function

send-mail-function is a variable defined in `.../emacs-22.3/share/emacs/22.3/lisp/mail/sendmail.elc'.
Its value is sendmail-send-it

>  CC: 5558 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>  From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
>  Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:09:31 -0500
>  MIME-Version: 1.0
>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>  
>  Warren L Dodge wrote:
>  
>  > emacs-23.1.92 -Q
>  > c-x m
>  >
>  > fill in To: to be myUserName
>  >
>  > c-c c-c
>  >
>  > It takes a few seconds to send this email versus almost instantly  in
>  > previous emacs versions.
>  
>  What does 
>  
>  C-h v message-send-mail-function
>  
>  say?

emacs-23.1.92 -Q
c-x m
C-h v message-send-mail-function

message-send-mail-function is a variable defined in `message.el'.
Its value is 
message-send-mail-with-sendmail


When I do the c-c c-c it says "Sending via mail ...."

>  
>  What value did you use for send-mail-function in Emacs 22.3?
>  

emacs-22.3 -Q
c-x m
-h v send-mail-function

send-mail-function is a variable defined in `.../emacs-22.3/share/emacs/22.3/lisp/mail/sendmail.elc'.
Its value is sendmail-send-it


>  Does it help to set message-send-mail-function to that value?
>  
>  
That value is not available in the customize list.


 Operate on all settings in this buffer that are not marked HIDDEN:
 Set for current session 
 Undo edits Reset to saved    Exit

Message Send Mail Function: Hide Value
(*) message-send-mail-with-sendmail
        Send off the prepared buffer with sendmail.
( ) message-send-mail-with-mh
        Send the prepared message buffer with mh.
( ) message-send-mail-with-qmail
        Pass the prepared message buffer to qmail-inject. More
( ) message-smtpmail-send-it
        Send the prepared message buffer with `smtpmail-send-it'. More
( ) smtpmail-send-it
        Not documented More
( ) feedmail-send-it
        Send the current mail buffer using the Feedmail package. More
( ) message-send-mail-with-mailclient
        Send the prepared message buffer with `mailclient-send-it'. More
( ) Other: ignore
   State: EDITED, shown value does not take effect until you set or save it.
   Function to call to send the current buffer as mail. Hide Rest   
   The headers should be delimited by a line whose contents match the
   variable `mail-header-separator'.
   
   Valid values include `message-send-mail-with-sendmail'
   `message-send-mail-with-mh', `message-send-mail-with-qmail',
   `message-smtpmail-send-it', `smtpmail-send-it',
   `feedmail-send-it' and `message-send-mail-with-mailclient'.  The
   default is system dependent and determined by the function
   `message-send-mail-function'.
  

Message #14 received at 5558 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: warren.l.dodge <at> Tektronix.com
Cc: 5558 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#5558: 23.1.92;
	sending an email takes much long then previous emacs version
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:59:10 -0500

[ Please keep 5558 in the cc ]

Warren Dodge wrote:

> emacs-22.3 -Q
> c-x m
> -h v send-mail-function
>
> send-mail-function is a variable defined in `.../emacs-22.3/share/emacs/22.3/lisp/mail/sendmail.elc'.
> Its value is sendmail-send-it

I wasn't asking about the -Q value, I was asking if you had customized
it (eg to smtpmail-send-it). If so, try using that value for message.
If you haven't customized it, this is not relevant.

Did this problem also occur in 23.1, or is it new in 23.1.92?

If it occurs in 23.1, does it make a difference to set
mail-interactive to nil?

If new in 23.1.92, does it make a difference to set
message-interactive to nil?

If new in 23.1.92, is it still slow if you

(setq mail-user-agent 'sendmail-user-agent)

Message #17 received at 5558 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Warren Dodge <warren.l.dodge <at> Tektronix.com>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 5558 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#5558: 23.1.92;
	sending an email takes much long then previous emacs version
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:30:48 -0800

>  CC: 5558 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>  From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
>  Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:59:10 -0500
>  MIME-Version: 1.0
>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>  
>  
>  [ Please keep 5558 in the cc ]
>  
>  Warren Dodge wrote:
>  
>  > emacs-22.3 -Q
>  > c-x m
>  > -h v send-mail-function
>  >
>  > send-mail-function is a variable defined in `.../emacs-22.3/share/emacs/22.3/lisp/mail/sendmail.elc'.
>  > Its value is sendmail-send-it
>  
>  I wasn't asking about the -Q value, I was asking if you had customized
>  it (eg to smtpmail-send-it). If so, try using that value for message.
>  If you haven't customized it, this is not relevant.
>  
   I have not customised it

>  Did this problem also occur in 23.1, or is it new in 23.1.92?
>  
   Yes

>  If it occurs in 23.1, does it make a difference to set
>  mail-interactive to nil?
>  
   If I set it in the scratch buffer the first c-x m c-c c-c is fast

   If I set the value once in the *mail* buffer.
   Yes it is real quick with that

>  If new in 23.1.92, does it make a difference to set
>  message-interactive to nil?

   If I set it in the scratch buffer the first c-x m c-c c-c is slow but
   the second is fast

   If I set the value once in the *mail* buffer.
   It is real quick with the first c-c c-c
>  
>  If new in 23.1.92, is it still slow if you
>  
>  (setq mail-user-agent 'sendmail-user-agent)
>  
>  
   It isn't new in23.1.92 but yes is it slow with this setting

Message #22 received at 5558-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: 5558-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#5558: 23.1.92;
	sending an email takes much long then previous emacs version
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:22:52 -0500

OK, so it sounds like the issue here was the change of the default
value of `mail-interactive' from nil to t in Emacs 23.1. This should
have been in NEWS but was not (added now).

It means that Emacs will wait for the sendmail process to return and
report any errors, rather than returning immediately and letting
sendmail send a mail in case of error. If it causes unacceptable
delays for you, just set it back to nil.

Message #25 received at 5558 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: 5558 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#5558: 23.1.92;
	sending an email takes much long then previous emacs version
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:27:02 -0500

> OK, so it sounds like the issue here was the change of the default
> value of `mail-interactive' from nil to t in Emacs 23.1. This should
> have been in NEWS but was not (added now).

> It means that Emacs will wait for the sendmail process to return and
> report any errors, rather than returning immediately and letting
> sendmail send a mail in case of error. If it causes unacceptable
> delays for you, just set it back to nil.

BTW, shouldn't we have it set to `async' instead (which probably
requires implementing the corresponding feature)?


        Stefan

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