From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 10 08:21:33 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2010 13:21:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NfCVZ-0005nI-KK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:21:33 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NfCVX-0005nB-Rw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:21:32 -0500 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:54329 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NfCVV-0006WP-Gz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:21:29 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NfCVU-0002R2-MW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:21:29 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on monty-python X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no version=3.1.0 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:34865) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NfCVU-0002Qw-Cs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:21:28 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NfCVT-00064Z-V6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:21:27 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50130 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NfCVT-000644-Cw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:21:27 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NfCVS-0002Qc-H9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:21:27 -0500 Received: from mail-fx0-f216.google.com ([209.85.220.216]:45910) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NfCC7-0008Fm-4b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:01:27 -0500 Received: by fxm8 with SMTP id 8so8080372fxm.26 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:01:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=e63/KNiVQQWWDSxq4LCDjmANKjXLnxdLNd9GPyB26us=; b=dOG0Vdj2e7FKuJkgcRmWN0+dTIPB5fo7u7Uegoo/5Umlvq7pA1Jyqlud4rSUJX8u8D uyCSyGy/AwkSTozTRlPrBa+TqwhkIdILuCakYKG3I1KbsEPetNEM0Ib5Q8dHb6uOQUte sp4rGH/IIsmWtEu03NjaDEIB31nAs6PZbCCVw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=j3CMC1AjjLVxV0iAtaPqoX8u1zOPQinJwaVuXKvvSzpIhs0Tz/RqARrRWepeeK++4C t8wz1+ZMhDS+XkpvrhuU7WTt2RMGaQiQyGn8HGSsueZpyQM9wYtI0Fi0Z6RI5ZokHddy Gv7lGeQuvl+XybjtYwCosOyzbcVaqTSHvkeE8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.181.71 with SMTP id l7mr15900hbg.172.1265806881342; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:01:21 -0800 (PST) From: Lennart Borgman Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:01:00 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: is undefined To: Emacs Bugs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -4.5 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.5 (----) This is rather inconvenient. I would expect the default binding for double-wheel-down the left and right margin to be the same as in the text part of the buffer. (Ie I would expect it to be bound to mwheel-scroll.) Is there any reason not to bind it in the margins by default? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 01 11:36:54 2019 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2019 15:36:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34432 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFKCs-0008WQ-CH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 11:36:54 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:53910) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFKCq-0008WE-BR for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 11:36:52 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iFKCn-0004gc-6f; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 17:36:51 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Lennart Borgman Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined References: Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 17:36:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:01:00 +0100") Message-ID: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lennart Borgman writes: > This is rather inconvenient. I would expect the default binding for > double-wheel-down the left and right margin to be the same as in the > text part of the buffer. (Ie I would expect it to be boun [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lennart Borgman writes: > This is rather inconvenient. I would expect the default binding for > double-wheel-down the left and right margin to be the same as in the > text part of the buffer. (Ie I would expect it to be bound to > mwheel-scroll.) > > Is there any reason not to bind it in the margins by default? (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately didn't get any response at the time.) I'm not quite sure what's being referred to here. Emacs has a fringe area, and there a "margin" concept in the indentation functions, but is there also a "margin" concept in windows? Hm... I see there's a `window-margins' function. How does one give margins to a window, I wonder? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 01 11:36:59 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2019 15:36:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34435 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFKCw-000058-M7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 11:36:58 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:53924) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFKCv-00004w-2r for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 11:36:57 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iFKCs-0004gj-Dl for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 17:36:56 +0200 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 17:36:54 +0200 Message-Id: <87imp832ax.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #5557 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: tags 5557 + moreinfo quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 5557 + moreinfo quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 01 12:09:46 2019 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2019 16:09:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34568 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFKig-0005CW-83 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 12:09:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43650) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFKie-0005CH-Mb for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 12:09:44 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35749) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iFKiZ-0008NG-AR; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 12:09:39 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1529 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iFKiX-0006nG-Cy; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 12:09:39 -0400 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 19:09:37 +0300 Message-Id: <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-reply-to: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Tue, 01 Oct 2019 17:36:49 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 17:36:49 +0200 > Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org > > Lennart Borgman writes: > > > This is rather inconvenient. I would expect the default binding for > > double-wheel-down the left and right margin to be the same as in the > > text part of the buffer. (Ie I would expect it to be bound to > > mwheel-scroll.) > > > > Is there any reason not to bind it in the margins by default? > > (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately didn't get any > response at the time.) > > I'm not quite sure what's being referred to here. Emacs has a fringe > area, and there a "margin" concept in the indentation functions, but is > there also a "margin" concept in windows? Yes, see set-window-margins. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 01 12:19:38 2019 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2019 16:19:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34585 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFKsD-0007WI-Vo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 12:19:38 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:55098) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFKsA-0007W8-RE for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 12:19:36 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iFKs6-00058q-VO; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 18:19:33 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 18:19:30 +0200 In-Reply-To: <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 01 Oct 2019 19:09:37 +0300") Message-ID: <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Yes, see set-window-margins. Ah, thanks. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Yes, see set-window-margins. Ah, thanks. After (set-window-margins (get-buffer-window) 10 10) and I try to do any mouse stuff there, I get is undefined is undefined (I don't have a mouse with a scroll wheel.) So I guess what should be changed is this: (when mouse-wheel-mode (dolist (event (list mouse-wheel-down-event mouse-wheel-up-event mouse-wheel-right-event mouse-wheel-left-event)) (dolist (key (mapcar (lambda (amt) `[(,@(if (consp amt) (car amt)) ,event)]) mouse-wheel-scroll-amount)) (global-set-key key 'mwheel-scroll) (push key mwheel-installed-bindings))))) to also work in left-margin/right-margin? It's a bit difficult for me to test since I don't have a scroll wheel -- can somebody who has one do the additional key bindings? (The code is in mwheel.el.) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 01 12:26:33 2019 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2019 16:26:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34602 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFKyv-0007im-Ix for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 12:26:33 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46120) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFKyt-0007iZ-QF for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 12:26:32 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36246) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iFKyo-0003lc-9d; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 12:26:26 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2555 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iFKyj-0008IV-Pi; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 12:26:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 19:26:20 +0300 Message-Id: <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-reply-to: <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Tue, 01 Oct 2019 18:19:30 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: lennart.borgman@gmail.com, 5557@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 18:19:30 +0200 > > After > > (set-window-margins (get-buffer-window) 10 10) > > and I try to do any mouse stuff there, I get > > is undefined > is undefined > > (I don't have a mouse with a scroll wheel.) > > So I guess what should be changed is this: > > (when mouse-wheel-mode > (dolist (event (list mouse-wheel-down-event mouse-wheel-up-event mouse-wheel-right-event mouse-wheel-left-event)) > (dolist (key (mapcar (lambda (amt) `[(,@(if (consp amt) (car amt)) ,event)]) > mouse-wheel-scroll-amount)) > (global-set-key key 'mwheel-scroll) > (push key mwheel-installed-bindings))))) > > to also work in left-margin/right-margin? It's a bit difficult for me > to test since I don't have a scroll wheel -- can somebody who has one do > the additional key bindings? (The code is in mwheel.el.) I actually am not sure a click on the margins should produce the same effect as on the text area. The margins are used to display different text from what's in the text area, so I'm not sure I understand the rationale. Does anyone else have an opinion on this? Should we perhaps ask a couple of people who maintain packages that display on the margins? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 01 12:32:33 2019 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2019 16:32:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34612 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFL4h-0001Uq-Fx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 12:32:33 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:55268) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFL4e-0001Ug-Tf for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 12:32:29 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iFL4a-0005EX-PW; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 18:32:27 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 18:32:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 01 Oct 2019 19:26:20 +0300") Message-ID: <87o8z0zasn.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I actually am not sure a click on the margins should produce the same > effect as on the text area. The margins are used to display different > text from what's in the text area, so I'm not sure I u [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > I actually am not sure a click on the margins should produce the same > effect as on the text area. The margins are used to display different > text from what's in the text area, so I'm not sure I understand the > rationale. Oh, I assumed that this was about scrolling, but that's probably not what does? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 01 12:37:10 2019 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2019 16:37:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34633 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFL9B-0001dM-Pq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 12:37:09 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47222) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFL97-0001cm-Hv for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 12:37:05 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36516) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iFL92-0004qA-CH; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 12:37:00 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3203 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iFL90-0000ah-N8; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 12:36:59 -0400 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 19:36:59 +0300 Message-Id: <834l0sa0d0.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-reply-to: <87o8z0zasn.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Tue, 01 Oct 2019 18:32:24 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8z0zasn.fsf@gnus.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: lennart.borgman@gmail.com, 5557@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 18:32:24 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I actually am not sure a click on the margins should produce the same > > effect as on the text area. The margins are used to display different > > text from what's in the text area, so I'm not sure I understand the > > rationale. > > Oh, I assumed that this was about scrolling, but that's probably not > what does? Sorry for confusing wording: it _is_ about scrolling. double-wheel-down means turning the wheel more than one click down. What holds me back is that no other area of the display reacts to mouse-wheel as the text area. E.g., turning the wheel on the fringes or on the scroll bar produces the same "undefined" message as for margins. I'm guessing that the OP wanted to have the display scrolled no matter where on display the user turns the mouse wheel, but evidently that's not how things are defined by default. If we decide to change that, it IMO makes little sense to do that only for the margins, but not for the fringes or the scroll bar. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 01 13:39:37 2019 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2019 17:39:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34715 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFM7c-0000xi-MH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 13:39:36 -0400 Received: from mail-pf1-f177.google.com ([209.85.210.177]:38622) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFM7b-0000xT-5i for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 13:39:36 -0400 Received: by mail-pf1-f177.google.com with SMTP id h195so8532999pfe.5 for <5557@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 10:39:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Qh2pFzqU/fO1QXmMKrIBSN2m5ap3INon/I1QgdBQzX8=; b=dVixwNnptG7KFQ4wKz04jLb7FBuKpce0tRMVGriyqHM0Kns54sZ7V+wP0tZADwodMn cEDVDz5ws+6wPApL/cSoS//6BwczrhvPq2b2R/1oBSembeUjTQIIJfD2bjmU8PzyqBVG xYZh6jZf4Uo3+ke8ztgbBj79daPlOse4uyT2O4aJNJ/zHnNJckdiew6HaLRQbaLPgGnX n0UgzJCyZJFYV6/PE8jVRRLJnvvcpzkDRVQ3NKQ0HBrIYgZqRQrSlysCI43glzeFyF9R tPJsKwralXKj93qbKvwkbLR4i4Fagpgt4b6gt6yraCHbFqYwIfXLMt7L5KpI+lJK6tz1 AyZg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVK83k01tq0nl+AH3C7eHQH1WsKMGHj/MfU/i0OYnsb//C+GEZP FzJ+7cg9mm35sI4vew6i0hsFH7e0XBfqLdOU0Q8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwagqQ2YZ9msqbJlRP79KPlBtW/3K+5C41grfjhH/qbyllFo94RpClDL8qxVsjr01VaCzS16KmRzhgsZfp/Lrk= X-Received: by 2002:a65:5802:: with SMTP id g2mr25827227pgr.333.1569951569273; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 10:39:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8z0zasn.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0sa0d0.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <834l0sa0d0.fsf@gnu.org> From: Stefan Kangas Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 19:39:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen , Lennart Borgman X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > What holds me back is that no other area of the display reacts to > mouse-wheel as the text area. E.g., turning the wheel on the fringes > or on the scroll bar produces the same "undefined" message as for > margins. FWIW, I personally think it makes sense to add this binding also to the fringes and the scroll bar. If the user tries to use the mouse wheel there, it's it my opinion most likely just a case of missing the window by a couple of pixels. > I'm guessing that the OP wanted to have the display scrolled no matter > where on display the user turns the mouse wheel, but evidently that's > not how things are defined by default. If we decide to change that, > it IMO makes little sense to do that only for the margins, but not for > the fringes or the scroll bar. I'm not seeing this when I use the mouse wheel on the scroll bar on GTK 3. Instead, the "bar" (inside the scroll bar) that indicates the current position strangely moves downwards slowly. I get no error message, and the window doesn't scroll. Best regards, Stefan Kangas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 01 14:32:28 2019 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2019 18:32:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34745 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFMwm-0002KH-LI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 14:32:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60350) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFMwl-0002K6-61 for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 14:32:27 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38542) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iFMwc-0001s2-Mb; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 14:32:20 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2228 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iFMwZ-0000RH-AR; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 14:32:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 21:31:58 +0300 Message-Id: <8336gc9v1d.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Kangas on Tue, 1 Oct 2019 19:39:17 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8z0zasn.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0sa0d0.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 19:39:17 +0200 > Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, > Lennart Borgman > > FWIW, I personally think it makes sense to add this binding also to > the fringes and the scroll bar. If the user tries to use the mouse > wheel there, it's it my opinion most likely just a case of missing the > window by a couple of pixels. Maybe. I'd like to hear more opinions, because we didn't have that since Emacs 21 till now. > > I'm guessing that the OP wanted to have the display scrolled no matter > > where on display the user turns the mouse wheel, but evidently that's > > not how things are defined by default. If we decide to change that, > > it IMO makes little sense to do that only for the margins, but not for > > the fringes or the scroll bar. > > I'm not seeing this when I use the mouse wheel on the scroll bar on > GTK 3. Instead, the "bar" (inside the scroll bar) that indicates the > current position strangely moves downwards slowly. I get no error > message, and the window doesn't scroll. That's because in your build these gestures on the scroll bar are processed by GTK, not by Emacs. Try some other toolkit, or maybe no-toolkit, and you will see what I see. But you do see what I described on the fringes, right? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 01 14:43:57 2019 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2019 18:43:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34760 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFN7s-0002cn-SJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 14:43:57 -0400 Received: from mail-pf1-f182.google.com ([209.85.210.182]:34768) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFN7q-0002ca-H0 for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 14:43:54 -0400 Received: by mail-pf1-f182.google.com with SMTP id b128so8701683pfa.1 for <5557@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 11:43:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=sQCgg12GrVgiwpYcX/TEIoouk56ygGCiPGKQ5cAR2jo=; b=r5ShGozA/2ibAKNu3dObhwZS19tXd8t6WiNEoVvGvCEM5wEfRrtWYH0NqPnKdRAo/u /HZ4dkB2TBsG0hJZnRejVDnBrNP0466t+2mWDnNss/vl1kaU6JrP16UlYe/+GCl4MNbi ijX4Li1O2KMsM9NKFaDGpWbOoJ3GK99wjeR4hpxQ6kaKMMe0ZNgHCgnTLF9uzXsyvLTx yXSp3Xh39bnZQ5k+Fb9JuyMxVhX2hz/H/GOhcvwPNM5EHkMtvsotyxWY2vJK/J0u5HXi 4GYJM8wrcVLemz74MFKlfgyJo8ap4AabppaiSGhKM5wDJaFXs3RT7bTGU6lLF0EtxJPH 3c9g== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVC1ZyHRZeohyrnHXJoF2nHJnZx+9wiNKH5VFhkp0hrbdGR5W5F gUyPWoov4GCJAr3Ts2250jZof0v/2PdH34vbkEM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw6Ifmu75H8+ZoIOSApQAJfyaWOiCjeOeiLy9X1vpZpk8Y5ZCWlVj1Vn3y4rpiyfpreyIIYoWZMwdRWIGKOKt8= X-Received: by 2002:a65:5802:: with SMTP id g2mr26154292pgr.333.1569955428489; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 11:43:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8z0zasn.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0sa0d0.fsf@gnu.org> <8336gc9v1d.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <8336gc9v1d.fsf@gnu.org> From: Stefan Kangas Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 20:43:36 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen , Lennart Borgman X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > That's because in your build these gestures on the scroll bar are > processed by GTK, not by Emacs. Try some other toolkit, or maybe > no-toolkit, and you will see what I see. Is that expected behaviour on GTK? It seems weird to get graphical feedback when nothing is happening in Emacs. If I have a long buffer, and I scroll *a lot* to get the bar to move down. When I then drag the bar using mouse-1, the buffer jumps to a location corresponding to the current placement of the bar. That doesn't seem right to me? > But you do see what I described on the fringes, right? Yes. Best regards, Stefan Kangas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 01 15:06:42 2019 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2019 19:06:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34773 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFNTu-0003EM-Hi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 15:06:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36166) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFNTt-0003E8-Aj for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 15:06:41 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:39168) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iFNTn-0008K3-VD; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 15:06:35 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4349 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iFNTm-0003Ig-U5; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 15:06:35 -0400 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 22:06:32 +0300 Message-Id: <83wodo8evb.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Kangas on Tue, 1 Oct 2019 20:43:36 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8z0zasn.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0sa0d0.fsf@gnu.org> <8336gc9v1d.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 20:43:36 +0200 > Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, > Lennart Borgman > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > That's because in your build these gestures on the scroll bar are > > processed by GTK, not by Emacs. Try some other toolkit, or maybe > > no-toolkit, and you will see what I see. > > Is that expected behaviour on GTK? It seems weird to get graphical > feedback when nothing is happening in Emacs. I don't know. Maybe Martin does. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Oct 02 04:55:52 2019 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Oct 2019 08:55:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35346 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFaQK-0007Jg-Ax for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2019 04:55:52 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:45363) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFaQI-0007JS-AG for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2019 04:55:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1570006543; bh=mt265yi3BHclW8IALhyI9k7nlKN5OzTsIGFTrrAZpio=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Wwkxjo7HFLsSnJ1ROs4sId4UekQPoWcJZjJJB5eae/iqXDjeHoG3tf/rt8yPIrBOh 5o8eKptjuosNBeoDr+rPBH35MJygyLSz4aIJmfbk7luNzepBYzchfVjAQT7C+SJHMo pJMnk+XkEGzHWr5y9PMG8DJK0OBVcUAJDyZtuqbU= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([212.95.5.203]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MJVDM-1iZKEB0ISu-00JpGU; Wed, 02 Oct 2019 10:55:43 +0200 Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined To: Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Kangas References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8z0zasn.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0sa0d0.fsf@gnu.org> <8336gc9v1d.fsf@gnu.org> <83wodo8evb.fsf@gnu.org> From: martin rudalics Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 10:55:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <83wodo8evb.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: de-AT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:og1YbxfwP+SWAlsgBghzlpGGtFRyR6y0ZTS5imWG9Wwpe9hnH8a pnPFY6aKYBkYNw+vhJe0uE4xvGUJt1BpxxHhptSeeccEe+So0qcyhJut0RCDMpyFHoJptHG VvFleneK0xpbPsdHeGzBvuLduJ1rZjUyt/O+w/chJoQYk/0K69/n2MoNfR7nNSB4iSKsnZ3 ua9Qwl5CAC7zdwOts0x3A== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:+U0WeFCqzGE=:yHnnZOOfJJ3+puzjrFkbs7 9k3hbgo26L9I58sh0ZCqRADTZQicxnaasDKawTDzRQgQHo4JwQN1hb3kbLrOsimnfOGoOAObo T+kZeiwgCitPm3xQ8DbxHtO3ccqMANIWophTHYn7wuIoc+RnJqjTsqHMsYCdhRSTvdu82cfAf nvTxOxDbcXruzbspf9wdfUOll9RFvZ7pz1oWPseJ3Rcdece3hagcnNNtgDFiHUPXI7dqlvx1J PzRWVSzrq2TJUZIu+sUYpv6tjhymd24yGluEWdmls5Zm2Ahw8Yc7E1rJA7llWSaURQgskNHBE I8zZjgpa3cyySTkXUkWSfum33VFYJr7C9AIftSStkTMkjYEB3FM2yK17iEFI1+ROvgai3C2mP vylrUAn1g6BatN6CmLrMzLQDX5N8dhaDUhHDkaTTKwiVx35smcOsu55h4EXUWLZy//d2cehtk YcIB67ocXqzhKKm/84w8nvGLrPOWfqOVkhcmE9ylE6Ge5kMNgdO5RxAtpd4pUXz6hrcVtx+Qc NO4NSHdYivW4Z7qszLLLNJC158A3m8esW/dHo2s6oplhRSRBlwpTj1N92sdUCXaMcbId5vJpC xtGNfbbUguAxihSNLP4jEH4gBuUHn3tNKGSWnBX2ZpqrmGP7LQ52UCj8tuk5IognbQ7QiEgeQ 00NrPdswSxZOwRad4m99xsAtuQqzzFEn67kMHycnuEU2fR1KP/9v6+Er9Elihswl0agis411f HPX3MteMzpeVwvuK5mBz5XwRZJlX0BYuZK9Jckz2MN2+k7O5AE8vuwyNbvABb2XH9vEU5cy7G l7fa4/GKNGgj8nCii0H3bYgvVkAHp5SZ/8uVWLwVuLB8iNUZqvnCPGM75c99WkKlVA83fV8vs 1aR8woGlfUD466g9fGZoQT11BoZKq+2WHwbv9kmaRALH1mVTAB98OutZiGvKZ8Cr64REqqNMM YFQlo0wiaCkf+p9z7ajVHpBsaxbfvU/9T8nQWCg+4XetVXxxOMsPmlXzO9EeYtm0uTA4oavMi LIrDkt9Ta6atThlMFpmsoZDZhvynBGo8coyeKKiUPG9pjL6KLC5MJbh7GU9xOdw8pTCNMSq4j tQCGm6Nw1CxodG7HV127kU/ZjQj24+v3EyU446WoYjJGie+ka2kJ9j764AbOkWxH1i0BtvouV W6KVfq65eEZm0+r/XD/f86FvhxbGFBBfOKVoeKK9jLBfrbLBzKxaJZcy/sYJAKPNjF9XiutrT /Pn+GInQH9R1tdcaPX/Dn+YFxqvJGSrBQK/wNxwBA4MRWBj9NZx9YAVPo2Ic= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> Is that expected behaviour on GTK? It seems weird to get graphical >> feedback when nothing is happening in Emacs. > > I don't know. Maybe Martin does. Sorry, no idea. martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 03 11:36:02 2019 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Oct 2019 15:36:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40827 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iG398-0005Kl-ID for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2019 11:36:02 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:50362) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iG393-0005KR-KU for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2019 11:35:58 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iG390-0000i3-AT; Thu, 03 Oct 2019 17:35:56 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8z0zasn.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0sa0d0.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2019 17:35:54 +0200 In-Reply-To: <834l0sa0d0.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 01 Oct 2019 19:36:59 +0300") Message-ID: <87v9t5suxx.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I'm guessing that the OP wanted to have the display scrolled no matter > where on display the user turns the mouse wheel, but evidently that's > not how things are defined by default. If we decide t [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > I'm guessing that the OP wanted to have the display scrolled no matter > where on display the user turns the mouse wheel, but evidently that's > not how things are defined by default. If we decide to change that, > it IMO makes little sense to do that only for the margins, but not for > the fringes or the scroll bar. That's true. Hm... perhaps the user has really big margins? That would make the issue more apparent there -- and it's difficult to say what else the scroll wheel should do there other than work the same as in the main portion of the buffer. But I guess we should just wait and see whether the user has any feedback on the use case here. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 03 14:11:22 2019 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Oct 2019 18:11:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41123 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iG5ZP-00073d-EK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2019 14:11:21 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:55849) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iG5ZN-00073O-Ng for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2019 14:11:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1570126269; bh=E53KC93s6kW02w27XxcrY8WnFN3PhpzsSIN5Xj5SHxA=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Zy0yCX0/8IFAgwKujJmjszThF5p9h3rgz3EFdUg5KPdyGUt5v023xvLAz09DmAYi+ aYfA7hYJGELaUrei5PHoc3qS4jieAb0HWeNgGKc35+zOsteOxLDc26ngO1C7a6U7/h HCpaU6a4UfLzAHRWFpCjyGUUytBtl2qn2oBGubjY= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([212.95.5.198]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MORAU-1iTt5O43lG-00PrPl; Thu, 03 Oct 2019 20:11:09 +0200 Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Eli Zaretskii References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8z0zasn.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0sa0d0.fsf@gnu.org> <87v9t5suxx.fsf@gnus.org> From: martin rudalics Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2019 20:11:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87v9t5suxx.fsf@gnus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: de-AT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:eQtcFq4YAEXPz/GQ97df/ggKu/jQH35pR7aAxLLbagM55H8IP7P aLpaEVIoLaBgmLZc54ZD6d+yKKPLx2+XQU7kGQ5tcn34Hj4ojyPQI00almu5uQVLEv8sXX/ vB1SnaRQrg4bnEbpFrL0pSNinp+C6dC7dYyfA+ZKVxKDTb2Af9NZaxCIDavbsv8qOaG2KCh xjSjE0SdWe2Y3tZ9emDJw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:1tkc4xS3H+I=:tNjEF7e/ktWM5xEjVftGAO Dfh8IIQLSTf1bVJ4nxoSWcgrrtsyOvdFQDKNzOtAO6MyEC3Z+cKHMrFWDLbR5YjB7s+diFJdG J2BgDmZSvM1niRB3YmfLx3eyDXqePl8dcYXqwsqHKGfav8G7tq6odDOJJmuKi5dxvKIqMGi/4 ppKc0LMESsXnj1/VL3qW6SPDAANQKm11PaVfZhw+f0dfq5pvBn9cHoU+ZKx9HXTH8sRqi/Lz+ LnCMAsj3kQqcJGOJ9dKC5ml3SjlE4E9Unw+mTh3vcj0WozIJvaTzAPO65TSJE5cQGl+4uVldW XxmBChOuu4TMCrhvu/HNhMbxA0zIbM0ohD0kEf/naJ2nrqHIK6HolgDU/OHu5i+nzvFW+LG2R ApDlMIf/plA3PQySO9F629Y1RDm3qlIjegP5T9DSWrbLXoH6Fxd3hhgZouJm+OUWHtCntjk+p ak5opj2vr7ScOY4j3dNWdh+dyJ4hX5xyeKuWXvjQotqub09OZ6ZLcs2x4ueBOBpP97EZ5WHhI 8GOzxeSjKDgua+c36RWWwmZ9WX/4VXTaJi8ZHW1VtxgovjJ5ukjYA6l+pyOpSRYWyids/k5pk JGbLPoXmFvHgZrKKbwencoaadgWEhyRYSF8M3tb1gUMIuXTX0wrOgFj/hKDKN/XZJcqgxsqAF n1Kr4iNTWOhKbGXCKsyJXOrniNGX759ji+h6i28WQ55gLJp76RycjxZczWywBngTbunFMOPzJ zz12JuqqHd2/eSpCJQGrfPE2qrdzhHWmeFmA8EIFoeE/XtW82CvWCRVtOIpRnSYtr9LIwYLrF el/45hHzwGFZTvG/QMGiul+dF+UsivNwlpzsu9hueRj/VZjv3sUAFuvkPgEhqNcH9Ffa/4Rim 3vbZ7lWDlKmPceX5VBXOuI71J4yXhk8rf4pnLsjNbmX64mNEuQt+kuj4aB+MGN0IaMqk2GIS0 hU1E7oR1RJJeaDdqwFQO3H74wTJ4PY6Z1gs+TcMz+BbOIJwsndpUKeVzfgk81PpOMdngSGqnL /7ie9/q5RcKIq1Q9u6keWzqGSzO7O+LZ7SduNuNcJ1S2rV6MQav5T21JuxN8cG/zmYeRI/Dik y9Vhesau17pHOWg4zXvlmT8BQYVLhYQOqYf77uyT8NM+tiZsuzbucK4XBECo86EAW3hFcSmIB obhGbnS/wt+uAfXAtuVCmYlHMFurYB7Tm6oTHTyuBFle+4u9GXOyOT1vG01vbjAQFCFcCpz9r GcVirn47ey+kD9CFI68hheYx7D2R+Rwpqx2q6FQPozEPowv1AR4WnD7pkoj0= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > That's true. Hm... perhaps the user has really big margins? That > would make the issue more apparent there -- and it's difficult to say > what else the scroll wheel should do there other than work the same as > in the main portion of the buffer. Nowadays practically all applications scroll the window vertically regardless of where the mouse pointer is - even when it's on the horizontal scroll bar. The only exception is the title bar where some window managers optionally "roll" the window in or out. martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 13 01:34:21 2020 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Aug 2020 05:34:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46556 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k65sb-00036X-3e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 01:34:21 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-f181.google.com ([209.85.219.181]:34932) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k65sW-000361-T7 for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 01:34:17 -0400 Received: by mail-yb1-f181.google.com with SMTP id y134so2679811yby.2 for <5557@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 12 Aug 2020 22:34:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Utet9ZLmHF0/ZYg4gBtEjnlQni6OCCw6qMh+xG/5WyQ=; b=OIBqNoBNGiIbsXbnAsQnrIeama7A0JyvO/A3JdlS5/u4oxTcxi4mkqUqROUZQbwH3/ zGpRJoWg5dZSlC6Y3MK2agjDABPm+jHWzxeNIagvKP5Om7lbe6W8rR7JabmpIHRzbyg3 OSSuZd1K/aFwgWuqUWz7WqdbOGKrLLZT5oHf48VjYQVmbavz4cydVCAd+dpilaQG9qCc F52M+d+YBDDk+vwkG1hC6VEsDlZMfEe39uUgxM+0vx6zOqvWT13JyqDHzWdUXTz9x71t XB+ua4GrLv+1gwznWNrx+jk11G+sb/+Wzq22Sm4A5q+u6XfhxhQ465opNrS6pTlyODvk CARQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531ewvQbah4174rLol0cU79szRtQXawO4RHMRGH5PNwDgQ36Cjhg Wi8WotSU6CPCv9Z7qDxcCX/V1v2YQg816fpD5FU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxbMVs8BRoC5wbi5Enu/QFDTuKXakp10plq3CIYSPRPf20ejVvKVwD8YKCnsyj293Dxj1l/NGDtBsJSrZyX4PU= X-Received: by 2002:a25:880e:: with SMTP id c14mr4193497ybl.181.1597296851431; Wed, 12 Aug 2020 22:34:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 12 Aug 2020 22:34:10 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (martin rudalics's message of "Thu, 3 Oct 2019 20:11:08 +0200") References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8z0zasn.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0sa0d0.fsf@gnu.org> <87v9t5suxx.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 22:34:10 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined To: martin rudalics Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0000000000006e57ef05acbba7ab" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen , lennart.borgman@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --0000000000006e57ef05acbba7ab Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" tags 5557 + patch thanks martin rudalics writes: > Nowadays practically all applications scroll the window vertically > regardless of where the mouse pointer is - even when it's on the > horizontal scroll bar. The only exception is the title bar where some > window managers optionally "roll" the window in or out. That strengthens the case for doing the same in Emacs. I have attached a patch which implements this functionality. Any comments? 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I don't use a scroll wheel mouse, but it sounds like a good idea to me. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 13 09:06:50 2020 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Aug 2020 13:06:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47396 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k6CwU-0001mP-78 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 09:06:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44968) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k6CwS-0001mA-Qw for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 09:06:49 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53869) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k6CwM-0008FK-Rw; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 09:06:42 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4866 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1k6CwL-000688-RD; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 09:06:42 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 16:06:34 +0300 Message-Id: <83pn7un19h.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Wed, 12 Aug 2020 22:34:10 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8z0zasn.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0sa0d0.fsf@gnu.org> <87v9t5suxx.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 22:34:10 -0700 > Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Eli Zaretskii , 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, > lennart.borgman@gmail.com > > > Nowadays practically all applications scroll the window vertically > > regardless of where the mouse pointer is - even when it's on the > > horizontal scroll bar. The only exception is the title bar where some > > window managers optionally "roll" the window in or out. > > That strengthens the case for doing the same in Emacs. > > I have attached a patch which implements this functionality. > Any comments? I have some: > +(defun mouse-wheel--create-scroll-keys-get-key (binding event) > + "Given BINDING and EVENT, return symbol for key. > +Arguments are like in `mouse-wheel--create-scroll-keys'." > + (intern (concat (pcase (caar binding) > + ('alt "A-") ('control "C-") ('hyper "H-") > + ('meta "M-") ('shift "S-") ('super "s-")) > + (symbol-name event)))) I don't think I understand why we want to usurp mouse-wheel with every possible modifier. I think the request was to honor only unmodified mouse-wheel scrolls, no? Let's leave the modifiers to user bindings. > +(defun mouse-wheel--create-scroll-keys (binding event) > + "Return list of key vectors for BINDING and EVENT. > +BINDING is an element in `mouse-wheel-scroll-amount'. EVENT is > +an event used for scrolling, e.g. `mouse-wheel-down-event'." > + (let ((prefixes (list 'left-margin 'right-margin > + 'left-fringe 'right-fringe)) Martin says (and I concur) that we should also do this on horizontal scroll bars and on the mode/header-lines. Finally, this needs a NEWS entry. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 14 14:38:46 2020 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Aug 2020 18:38:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53837 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k6ebG-00085B-KQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 14:38:46 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-f178.google.com ([209.85.219.178]:45127) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k6ebF-00084z-0z for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 14:38:46 -0400 Received: by mail-yb1-f178.google.com with SMTP id x2so5674073ybf.12 for <5557@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 11:38:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=QwfnyZI9MPPVJVqklJQbdCCQRKXrMrDq68qQQ7gA7a4=; b=OO3Rn9hZQ3xd/0PJX2V5yOZ1ju85IPE5A+5HrRZqSB9HzTr8dpIdDhgFSR9OS4pK8c CupDIRFzrvbaUl0YfiRQDgUEcLNgdK7TuEkQkxTPjeYmFDwrPNka3PFhtHdn0bMFKe9r lyHlxgx8tr6cb19OR8cnUcqL5idd10urkRCPwYi+GLbkoBypjE9cJSTK3S9b7qa6V21l Fsep+P4tnJEna2wu2VPOEOlobYbrrL2/7fFeOyAB4DAvmXgKlGpbZsFX4YS0Oe+k6JMF 2lVvHSWbmtu6HUeF6XDzf+3KZx5Rr7ZThl2A7gCnibntX6s9DBvwr9NPgCGBMIk+0tCw twkw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5320o6qe3Cfd6tdGZ5RO7VGqHZCJk6m6KtKQjZS5Akl6YTyDk2Ff Y1kmytafEHpr9LLLRUMxdNvzGbo+Uweuv8EvBJ4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzYMn7uidcd8spe3zWYV4OsT8o2tGGYEtKSQpZV0i2HhTLzRlp1Q/GNLl7a0pCQLf9Tuket4SJhdJ2Qklb9y/k= X-Received: by 2002:a5b:508:: with SMTP id o8mr5898783ybp.43.1597430319538; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 11:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 11:38:39 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <83pn7un19h.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8z0zasn.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0sa0d0.fsf@gnu.org> <87v9t5suxx.fsf@gnus.org> <83pn7un19h.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 11:38:39 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Any comments? > > I have some: Thank you. >> +(defun mouse-wheel--create-scroll-keys-get-key (binding event) >> + "Given BINDING and EVENT, return symbol for key. >> +Arguments are like in `mouse-wheel--create-scroll-keys'." >> + (intern (concat (pcase (caar binding) >> + ('alt "A-") ('control "C-") ('hyper "H-") >> + ('meta "M-") ('shift "S-") ('super "s-")) >> + (symbol-name event)))) > > I don't think I understand why we want to usurp mouse-wheel with every > possible modifier. I think the request was to honor only unmodified > mouse-wheel scrolls, no? Let's leave the modifiers to user bindings. Well, it's not really all modifiers, at least not by default. This depends on what is configured in 'mouse-wheel-scroll-amount', so that the user gets to decide. My thinking is that it should be exactly the same to use the mouse wheel (with or without modifiers) in the buffer area as on the fringe, margins, etc. I'm thinking that this way we are a bit preemptive, or we risk getting bug reports saying that "sometimes scrolling doesn't work". IOW, I believe that the behaviour I suggest is the least surprising. I have also checked Firefox and LibreOffice, and they also behave in this way with regards to the modifiers. Do you have any reason to believe anyone would specifically not like to have those bindings there? I agree with the rest of your comments. Best regards, Stefan Kangas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 14 15:13:32 2020 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Aug 2020 19:13:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53891 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k6f8u-0000Tr-14 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 15:13:32 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39884) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k6f8s-0000Td-TQ for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 15:13:31 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36123) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k6f8n-0003Jf-A1; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 15:13:25 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4704 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1k6f8m-00060W-Ql; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 15:13:25 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 22:13:19 +0300 Message-Id: <835z9lkpm8.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Fri, 14 Aug 2020 11:38:39 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8z0zasn.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0sa0d0.fsf@gnu.org> <87v9t5suxx.fsf@gnus.org> <83pn7un19h.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 11:38:39 -0700 > Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, > lennart.borgman@gmail.com > > Do you have any reason to believe anyone would specifically not like to > have those bindings there? I just don't want us to usurp key bindings without a good reason. Let's leave the unbound mouse gestures unbound, and leave it to the users to decide what effect they have on different parts of the display. There's no reason to force them all to do the same on any part of the display, when we don't even know what commands will be bound to them. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 14 17:34:33 2020 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Aug 2020 21:34:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54012 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k6hLM-0003sK-Ok for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 17:34:32 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-f176.google.com ([209.85.219.176]:38033) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k6hLL-0003s5-Ge for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 17:34:31 -0400 Received: by mail-yb1-f176.google.com with SMTP id e187so5938901ybc.5 for <5557@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 14:34:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=wX0O/b3NNjKw3VQYIxNTu2WPxqsGStb4u82W5KufvOg=; b=Awxnz04ivoPNeYp4Nf6N6cVNIgMqzDIcouq0UvixnBKPGYirmB0+hmSUypg78obCIn UX97uUWdfHxT4ajDVVt6bUl9xPkPLdWNLHeYR5CSFmAhPrCQChnhNt0LPQOAqNmA7bgM 47k+VeNIoO06xbyAQm3yxi0mZqIv7yx3xbDp3bO3LclT+RWu3Z8EuoOLFCRAIyd4hB70 xJukp2umhCrBXGmkTl/RuOUV59lkh4vUmCK7nGoN9yXlNO+k3WkqkbcV/vmmAxIAmdWG bJa4717IqJ+joTY1HPMVZ74BfQ1xjXBGpG4R1quny9oCNbxAMY5LN9gXh7fAaxIH7WDT tnFQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533H9GQTnT7tZfK1TH94MvtbmDwKqQ19pqOb1YNeJV+1xOCss7qZ zJbw043nCkSdhbfQZ1xVVDZEMtubzSkOIyqsahI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzNafrBxsFIJBbhRCl1MDPBXHu/8bBTbE74wjn/WkiIYs+mZJbhYniDx+sJUZkcb12hcfAozkbK/GB+2/zkQt4= X-Received: by 2002:a25:7007:: with SMTP id l7mr6244391ybc.85.1597440865970; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 14:34:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 14:34:25 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <835z9lkpm8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8z0zasn.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0sa0d0.fsf@gnu.org> <87v9t5suxx.fsf@gnus.org> <83pn7un19h.fsf@gnu.org> <835z9lkpm8.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 14:34:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > I just don't want us to usurp key bindings without a good reason. I tried arguing that being more like other applications here makes for a better user experience. To me that's a good reason. Plus I really don't know why someone would want to do anything but scroll using the mouse wheel, or why users (or package authors) can't rebind this on specific window areas should they want to. > Let's leave the unbound mouse gestures unbound, and leave it to the > users to decide what effect they have on different parts of the > display. There's no reason to force them all to do the same on any > part of the display, when we don't even know what commands will be > bound to them. OK, I guess we will have to agree to disagree. One thing I don't understand is how binding to scroll-bar is supposed to work. I tried the following, but it didn't work (tested in GTK and lucid): (global-set-key [vertical-scroll-bar mouse-5] 'foo-mouse-message) (defun foo-mouse-message (event) (interactive "e") (message "%s" (format-time-string "%H:%M:%S"))) (Change vertical-scroll-bar to left-fringe to see that it works there.) Any ideas? Best regards, Stefan Kangas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 15 13:40:26 2020 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Aug 2020 17:40:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56403 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k70AL-0006PT-Sx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2020 13:40:26 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38294) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k70AJ-0006PC-IP for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2020 13:40:24 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:52372) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k70AD-0004qZ-Dj; Sat, 15 Aug 2020 13:40:17 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4525 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1k70AC-0001m2-TF; Sat, 15 Aug 2020 13:40:17 -0400 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 20:40:01 +0300 Message-Id: <835z9jkdu6.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Fri, 14 Aug 2020 14:34:25 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8z0zasn.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0sa0d0.fsf@gnu.org> <87v9t5suxx.fsf@gnus.org> <83pn7un19h.fsf@gnu.org> <835z9lkpm8.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 14:34:25 -0700 > Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, > lennart.borgman@gmail.com > > Plus I really don't know why someone would want to do anything but > scroll using the mouse wheel ??? We do that already: C-wheel-up increases the font size. It shouldn't be hard to imagine similar bindings on the fringe, for example. > OK, I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Yes. > One thing I don't understand is how binding to scroll-bar is supposed to > work. I tried the following, but it didn't work (tested in GTK and > lucid): > > (global-set-key [vertical-scroll-bar mouse-5] 'foo-mouse-message) > (defun foo-mouse-message (event) > (interactive "e") > (message "%s" (format-time-string "%H:%M:%S"))) > > (Change vertical-scroll-bar to left-fringe to see that it works there.) First, you don't need to do anything for vertical-scroll-bar, as the mouse wheel is already handled there, at least on my system. On a horizontal scroll-bar, if I use this: (global-set-key [horizontal-scroll-bar wheel-up] 'foo-mouse-message) I get the expected result on my system. What do you see Emacs say if you turn the wheel on the horizontal scroll-bar in "emacs -Q"? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 16 09:41:42 2020 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Aug 2020 13:41:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57058 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k7Ius-0004in-OF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 09:41:42 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-f171.google.com ([209.85.219.171]:42569) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k7Iuo-0004iT-AU for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 09:41:42 -0400 Received: by mail-yb1-f171.google.com with SMTP id a34so7928314ybj.9 for <5557@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 06:41:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Ndmozw6Q7+RMfNMLjT+pG/iHIgb0vuykP+jxE0ALb74=; b=HhOBI82I4bBPwHkXzqqk8KwnTGzxEqOfvT7pZKye73gEmOgV9Ax5SG+GGhCPWpU/GX 6VzqQNVNobFbYl7cfzr9TZ4BLCYTSjG3EZc1u9lNSxpqgjUwzZKlAfjFD58FQpOYY+Nx LnMChDJ3cpfnkQNMv+PwKpBQPZFx5piyiBr2T55rmSp7PjTTvLfV1SYU3mwMHr0wQPSC rO2WuGCqU/u6NOnIlJd5OYXOLmGMzQDBvtVeU63U3wnCQRktuxZ6mSWT/KzwX3D7EJle 91zBx4NcegVkhzfX8M0RDjygSwrjOxuDV0zxBI/HqOwPss1nlpaPO8QFKub5mH5AZil0 fv9A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532hEdzkaj9CurcYKmay+ycFetPGdaFLMG+/1kq8caqV1Xf+OXg1 b5/z0b4igdvl98TNDtE2ugnHr5rvB5VRNeL1sMQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy5mX1sI0Rg9q3tCpmlOxya2rWLEDAYTWi+mWB+kUuzPESxg/GiVw3x/idAHpjlsWwtvab6Q5/dnEqyIXhTUJY= X-Received: by 2002:a25:4609:: with SMTP id t9mr14476669yba.231.1597585292538; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 06:41:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 06:41:32 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <835z9jkdu6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8z0zasn.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0sa0d0.fsf@gnu.org> <87v9t5suxx.fsf@gnus.org> <83pn7un19h.fsf@gnu.org> <835z9lkpm8.fsf@gnu.org> <835z9jkdu6.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 06:41:32 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > First, you don't need to do anything for vertical-scroll-bar, as the > mouse wheel is already handled there, at least on my system. Not here, unfortunately. Tried emacs -Q with both GTK and Lucid: no message from foo-mouse-message. On GTK, I see this: "[The] 'bar' (inside the scroll bar) that indicates the current position strangely moves downwards slowly. I get no error message, and the window doesn't scroll." https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=5557#28 On Lucid, nothing at all happens for the mouse wheel. (Which is actually better than the odd behaviour I see on GTK.) > On a horizontal scroll-bar, if I use this: > > (global-set-key [horizontal-scroll-bar wheel-up] 'foo-mouse-message) > > I get the expected result on my system. > > What do you see Emacs say if you turn the wheel on the horizontal > scroll-bar in "emacs -Q"? Same here: no message with the binding. Instead: On GTK, the horizontal scroll bar moves, but the window doesn't update. The behaviour is similar to the vertical case: the 'bar' portion moves, and when I then drag it with mouse-1, the window jumps to the position. On Lucid, I see the same as for the vertical scroll bar: nothing happens. So it's starting to sound like we have at least two separate bugs to handle. Best regards, Stefan Kangas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 16 10:49:21 2020 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Aug 2020 14:49:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58148 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k7JyL-0000Oi-BM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 10:49:21 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40308) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k7JyJ-0000OV-Of for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 10:49:20 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:39635) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k7JyD-0005vb-Um; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 10:49:13 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2586 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1k7JyD-00045Z-CW; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 10:49:13 -0400 Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 17:48:57 +0300 Message-Id: <83bljair3a.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Sun, 16 Aug 2020 06:41:32 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8z0zasn.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0sa0d0.fsf@gnu.org> <87v9t5suxx.fsf@gnus.org> <83pn7un19h.fsf@gnu.org> <835z9lkpm8.fsf@gnu.org> <835z9jkdu6.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 06:41:32 -0700 > Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, > lennart.borgman@gmail.com > > On GTK, the horizontal scroll bar moves, but the window doesn't update. > The behaviour is similar to the vertical case: the 'bar' portion moves, > and when I then drag it with mouse-1, the window jumps to the position. > > On Lucid, I see the same as for the vertical scroll bar: nothing happens. What about a no-toolkit version? > So it's starting to sound like we have at least two separate bugs to > handle. Sounds like that, yes. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 16 11:57:57 2020 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Aug 2020 15:57:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58240 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k7L2j-000210-8V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 11:57:57 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-f170.google.com ([209.85.219.170]:42334) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k7L2i-00020o-0a for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 11:57:56 -0400 Received: by mail-yb1-f170.google.com with SMTP id a34so8049308ybj.9 for <5557@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 08:57:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=7m/zEEceEpZBp30fLUGlNThxwFpRPJUtG597hF4ImWQ=; b=BwtWXDhvnSUkdWXXkAwkTKTnNkTRMuq/GQk28sOjZG4OzvqByyvko08F4GmK9XnltX 0NmMqzDAGFe6wkWWmrdPDTU8DhmZrQZJ4zdFJO88LHIqiUpbHGzpmw7/6//2eO9LezvF 8AM33NjN7LHKvweAf6T9gFvckm/KU5dXKlbBHfjEEN7KbGx6LwxTiFQnipiq/SROcTT2 qO4bWbnAlx9r/0T/thcPNcZtDgVmSHznP6dAdFpE5SMz3yK/WEin9lx5oRPidofNyt44 /1wLhUWjizU5Glj5jWwLYM1H4jXZMgjRNXLWdH4bHOfpxadlmsa5csi/OD1XRVJ9Vxq0 pQ5w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533sKuHr3VYR8c/QRfUJYmcPOWS/+Et+BVA9/m8GiP99kVsxVSIh c4tCmU3gtSDPeVtjlAwFuaJd9rN/+tMDx8ruo08= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxAMBoKtJplxSOyUkRkN2Ya3MTYeCrjYvjFcdAOEKo7G0HVnT0RaVcrolZNw92VSCtiIL0zgwgbgoEjNctIfos= X-Received: by 2002:a5b:508:: with SMTP id o8mr17029406ybp.43.1597593470496; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 08:57:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 08:57:50 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <83bljair3a.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8z0zasn.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0sa0d0.fsf@gnu.org> <87v9t5suxx.fsf@gnus.org> <83pn7un19h.fsf@gnu.org> <835z9lkpm8.fsf@gnu.org> <835z9jkdu6.fsf@gnu.org> <83bljair3a.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 08:57:50 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > What about a no-toolkit version? The vertical-scroll-bar works as expected; I see the message in the minibuffer from 'foo-mouse-message' and for other mouse wheel buttons it says they are not bound. M-x horizontal-scroll-bar-mode says: "Horizontal scroll bars are not implemented on this system" >> So it's starting to sound like we have at least two separate bugs to >> handle. > > Sounds like that, yes. I will open two new bugs to track that (one for each toolkit), and mention this bug report and the relevant findings. Best regards, Stefan Kangas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 17 09:30:46 2020 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Aug 2020 13:30:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59623 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k7fDp-0005Qb-Nn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 09:30:46 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-f170.google.com ([209.85.219.170]:43057) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k7fDn-0005QO-NE for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 09:30:44 -0400 Received: by mail-yb1-f170.google.com with SMTP id m200so9415266ybf.10 for <5557@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 06:30:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=HHEOUu0XrIalXsEkFGpGtwBeDlg0gCc1HhU308ND9Wg=; b=fpFpKsepv7IKiw3y4ZUpIyViBJZarPT3PUy4ThFeAP1uIqAiYwhS+eUptkusC1AMpJ QIlRp6T52VSUXZGho3qW/bikxS3uhZRu4/lHHUzO87yPOVnMv2FzysaUKZW5FCcZhZGc Vv6Cm2BNax+Mfxusn45L5Oa8vbbcKmBwjlOHmg2w5lGauhZzNf5OEDA+kN/+3FuZxCc9 SrJpdxQIDfPxEigJ8CrCd2ky1OEHIiQR7H14SiwSiaWQBqAE8R0Cqjrei/wnmXlAuZRC PoXgGedhmYh/F8VqCu0QSYIj6FNF/CwppmyD6Ug8tttHmobxWMbJUKLCB1qSN2MFYNmY X8cQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533zImQGVA0FodjxueeMEE1yUT+9QCsXkM/03c68x2jew2418q6N s3By7sxt/qh7PpSC43o5qSBFHWaD50SbPtBOrAY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwhCgQ29WgWi9GhrqvFp/1vnLl9obekJZ13AL8LpYy4lRX/h5bBAH2T6osK492R91Bt5E4dwhzRZGmwNQ/auQM= X-Received: by 2002:a5b:508:: with SMTP id o8mr22480420ybp.43.1597671038216; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 06:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 13:30:37 +0000 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <83pn7un19h.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8z0zasn.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0sa0d0.fsf@gnu.org> <87v9t5suxx.fsf@gnus.org> <83pn7un19h.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 13:30:37 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="000000000000b3f8d905ad12c630" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) --000000000000b3f8d905ad12c630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I have attached a patch which implements this functionality. >> Any comments? > > I have some: Please find attached a new patch which should fix the issues you pointed out. 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[176.228.60.248] (port=1968 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1k9O0d-0007EP-39; Sat, 22 Aug 2020 03:32:15 -0400 Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 10:32:10 +0300 Message-Id: <83r1rz9lvp.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Mon, 17 Aug 2020 13:30:37 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8z0zasn.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0sa0d0.fsf@gnu.org> <87v9t5suxx.fsf@gnus.org> <83pn7un19h.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 13:30:37 +0000 > Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, > lennart.borgman@gmail.com > > Please find attached a new patch which should fix the issues you pointed > out. Thanks. > +*** Mouse wheel scrolling less sensitive to positioning. I'd suggest Mouse-wheel scrolling now works on more parts of frame's display. > +When using 'mwheel-mode' (enabled by default), the mouse wheel will > +now scroll also when the mouse cursor is on the fringe, margin, header > +line, and mode line. The code also arranges for the scroll bars, no? Also, please use "fringes" and "margins", in plural. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 22 07:48:39 2020 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2020 11:48:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49008 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k9S0l-0005QP-3W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Aug 2020 07:48:39 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-f170.google.com ([209.85.219.170]:36336) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k9S0j-0005QA-EA for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Aug 2020 07:48:37 -0400 Received: by mail-yb1-f170.google.com with SMTP id g3so2495743ybc.3 for <5557@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 22 Aug 2020 04:48:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=SjjD1TsAqG6IVDwH+tYv91SDjVBJ8+uFvVShdiEB800=; b=PJUAVGrCeOx23ES3MVF0uAXdwzzw8/yiYjDjIHLXJ2D/7t7ze6bw3bIfCPx877xN1+ AdrGLHkfPwyJU30dWUoebBD96mfxeHevxQfazsdWKaRg0XJD4JnaEJ7I1Vy+62e9e4qQ bTTqbUe160cn2e1Db4uLo+TSjm24cyaessaOfUaCpSttwJf71VUlfoSRayezyp0jbTxC CeEas4CWGjQXeVLTd3DjBfaKRwOqDr1PgVSn+Ydtm/KQ4Yz0BO29UcbxNEBK7SRj/D4Y wVTHDW8kN4GtND4UmcEDEcDkW+CPldEUGi0dhKIToTqvd8N6UKUZzNIi65t8dgmBuZKP akxA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533pGFPxTxIMbGRcNyOyjAIo50sHFyu0izsZfCqm9wB2gCYH1voY Ks2fSJ40m/ZoIpmZFZZaE0NmSI4MoWxzTtRvYyY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxhBEklLsTopYBLeOrO2L/DobxGMQqbjNz9jV2RdypXi3IbhI7mFp6AAn0A//UVhbvCIGDZcdiXT/TbZ+mfEjQ= X-Received: by 2002:a5b:508:: with SMTP id o8mr10273815ybp.43.1598096912087; Sat, 22 Aug 2020 04:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sat, 22 Aug 2020 07:48:31 -0400 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <83r1rz9lvp.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8z0zasn.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0sa0d0.fsf@gnu.org> <87v9t5suxx.fsf@gnus.org> <83pn7un19h.fsf@gnu.org> <83r1rz9lvp.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 07:48:31 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="000000000000c333d005ad75ee43" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) --000000000000c333d005ad75ee43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Eli Zaretskii writes: >> +*** Mouse wheel scrolling less sensitive to positioning. > > I'd suggest > > Mouse-wheel scrolling now works on more parts of frame's display. > >> +When using 'mwheel-mode' (enabled by default), the mouse wheel will >> +now scroll also when the mouse cursor is on the fringe, margin, header >> +line, and mode line. > > The code also arranges for the scroll bars, no? Also, please use > "fringes" and "margins", in plural. Thanks for the review. Fixed your comments in the attached patch. 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fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37327) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k9SBZ-0004ZK-ST; Sat, 22 Aug 2020 07:59:49 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2697 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1k9SBX-0005zI-HE; Sat, 22 Aug 2020 07:59:49 -0400 Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 14:59:40 +0300 Message-Id: <83d03iao2b.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Sat, 22 Aug 2020 07:48:31 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8z0zasn.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0sa0d0.fsf@gnu.org> <87v9t5suxx.fsf@gnus.org> <83pn7un19h.fsf@gnu.org> <83r1rz9lvp.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 07:48:31 -0400 > Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, > lennart.borgman@gmail.com > > Thanks for the review. Fixed your comments in the attached patch. LGTM, thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 22 08:11:17 2020 Received: (at 5557) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2020 12:11:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49049 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k9SMf-00060E-LG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Aug 2020 08:11:17 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-f174.google.com ([209.85.219.174]:37930) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k9SMY-0005zi-OE for 5557@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Aug 2020 08:11:14 -0400 Received: by mail-yb1-f174.google.com with SMTP id e187so2506295ybc.5 for <5557@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 22 Aug 2020 05:11:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=/qrqzA8vLu56npgIcuT8Y28jmiH5yYHGbo38mpwVbuw=; b=LoQFfISu2nQxXTsrPPjdr2kqQY216vk4hTpIaN3OYKL51azRYeqlqucpnBXgH20/GP bdEO17CWKI94eqjLkRA5XUw/wtCUyg2CQvbKYqBorpWLV04l4+TD1TenhIqU7tOSFcrG aCT3HPiEQeW3LvaLfwGBgISdUBGq58BCD6T9JIg7X9fWIuShsWWtwjXVDXLUktT2+sJb AbWTt+0Hq4ml+dHU4WW9KSfLkq+xqcX+FoM5QXAxIxUAoOKkIE3EIv5nMuqDfgylcKMT RmZ/FUnYITywP0/JKt3ADkZoR6Nh7/PzHaqvDmh+OhvX0AR2umM3IrhSySwTaqwAAWn2 n2dw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530nrc6njKFGC2wpHeRzjXCmszq6IF8VZ/NxRDhwZWARcRAVIkyc LvwZD7Kms3AFXH97qwnFzPtYjLVDDl3Jia/DRjg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyCp3YmpndWH2yh7uQMmWkf701N5RECzcEdvrBq+bX3ElCbwXfDEcQqeM98zCCQ1BOjKwe5sKs2NPy3GfbyvFo= X-Received: by 2002:a25:7007:: with SMTP id l7mr9233067ybc.85.1598098265411; Sat, 22 Aug 2020 05:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sat, 22 Aug 2020 08:11:04 -0400 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <83d03iao2b.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k19o32b2.fsf@gnus.org> <838sq4a1mm.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgoczbe5.fsf@gnus.org> <835zl8a0ur.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8z0zasn.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0sa0d0.fsf@gnu.org> <87v9t5suxx.fsf@gnus.org> <83pn7un19h.fsf@gnu.org> <83r1rz9lvp.fsf@gnu.org> <83d03iao2b.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 08:11:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#5557: is undefined To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5557 Cc: 5557@debbugs.gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) close 5557 28.1 thanks Eli Zaretskii writes: > LGTM, thanks. 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