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Tagalog script=C2=A0 is added to Emacs this time.

Please review the patch.
Thank You.
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May 2022 17:23:11 +0300 Message-Id: <83pmk89tbk.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (lumarzeli30@gmail.com) References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: समीर सिंह Sameer Singh > > Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 03:43:54 +0530 > > Tagalog script is added to Emacs this time. Thanks. > diff --git a/etc/NEWS b/etc/NEWS > index 4f6df48129..4ded787888 100644 > --- a/etc/NEWS > +++ b/etc/NEWS > @@ -800,6 +800,7 @@ corresponding language environments are: > **** Siddham script and language environment > **** Syloti Nagri script and language environment > **** Modi script and language environment > +**** Tagalog script and language environment I think this entry should not be together with the old Indic scripts, it should be separate from them. Especially if you intend to add more scripts/languages used in the Philippines. > +(set-language-info-alist > + "Tagalog" '((charset unicode) > + (coding-system utf-8) > + (coding-priority utf-8) > + (input-method . "tagalog") > + (sample-text . "Baybayin (ᜊᜌ᜔ᜊᜌᜒᜈ᜔) ᜃᜓᜋᜓᜐ᜔ᜆ") > + (documentation . "\ > +Philippine Language Tagalog is supported in this language environment."))) I wonder whether we should call the language-environment "Tagalog". Why not "Filipino", which AFAIU is the official language name? Perhaps also for the input method. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:34:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55529: [PATCH] Add support for the Tagalog script Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 15:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55529 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 55529@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 55529-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55529.165306150817691 (code B ref 55529); Fri, 20 May 2022 15:46:02 +0000 Received: (at 55529) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 May 2022 15:45:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39936 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ns4oO-0004bG-1P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2022 11:45:08 -0400 Received: from mail-qk1-f174.google.com ([209.85.222.174]:36648) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ns4oK-0004aS-OM for 55529@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2022 11:45:07 -0400 Received: by mail-qk1-f174.google.com with SMTP id l82so2460033qke.3 for <55529@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 20 May 2022 08:45:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=nViYM+i6O/lbFZ+PS05q1Mu2NDGStaTHksJ9oczrKhs=; b=eIy+UBiXYKS57z9uveZl3o2g80Vboki5rHXrbP6Ya9u17/8XpnBxWm+XLG+oiKgAB5 9jrprkreHYttHWLKv7POR6ZJOhBD+JGPtTtY/lq0ph8pFwV+paRsf6aYsvRVI3/33Ela eVY8CUHXGcmT8nIX6B1+4BCrq8o9hXakUwtokftcoG4Ydw9Qmv8263br6/vb5A9XBbRF xsPMNWJYLjPFTKVvPdeeIX4zvnK9I1VTU5nBau5EM3TF4XsQxvTZYm8IwNnRLNzpQSx1 xtPJjvZZ1ddcF+L9EOL7KPY/urCh7ZQh+56OjVnhLpD+/NsrXBHj1QPwVQ86OiCDem1O hEpA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=nViYM+i6O/lbFZ+PS05q1Mu2NDGStaTHksJ9oczrKhs=; b=FHpR52CAqG7qMVEypO/Jk7H3tSxiByyhknH+KTLnZby7kiQNCv8uwnUJHdWmIuL4+q uY5quG83ZKE9WIEkvv2pEBWkdr5QGCkt2YwwyOwaliDkO/M5F9wepT6FTiO9eFMdKzeN Fuii2ySm+3Y+V+uzjIvjOrJsHPff3cKLlv6/OmPI4whKrDlRbP6UxCFD5ZjLTGao9rvg zvOeE5UC1aZsJkXC1IWxneRMY444HisLovG17X+RXe71366cKqwAj4r7UV8XWh0cgQvB sd6fX7BQou2fPxjvvGQYYklQWwoqIchATjwj1lvuUQq5oWB9wMzYYUEV2CKlUXZ1dmAm klpA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533JKx9BR1CR5yJRDcYoKOYDOaW5hMeelMOL3J/NY5rOr74782Cn TDulf3ny51wZtacgPDzr1IVP0EBFfJkRZIjR/3Db8vZ6yX3Nnw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzJBgp1fxrsPr2P5na3ct/6QNy9PBo2R/E1BXsHJC+/XlDIg2LzciZDU97W8lZCzGx0XVLq+MX7/5pfuTYc85M= X-Received: by 2002:a37:d245:0:b0:69b:f262:bacb with SMTP id f66-20020a37d245000000b0069bf262bacbmr6841803qkj.66.1653061498984; Fri, 20 May 2022 08:44:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83pmk89tbk.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83pmk89tbk.fsf@gnu.org> From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 21:14:04 +0530 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000706ac705df735f84" X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) --000000000000706ac705df735f84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I think this entry should not be together with the old Indic scripts, > it should be separate from them. Especially if you intend to add more > scripts/languages used in the Philippines. Tagalog and other philippine scripts also descend from Brahmi. They are also superseded by the Roman script, so I would consider them as old. I wonder whether we should call the language-environment "Tagalog". > Why not "Filipino", which AFAIU is the official language name? > Perhaps also for the input method. > AFAICT from the internet, Tagalog and Filipino are two different languages, Filipino is Tagalog with foreign loanwords, for e.g. the Filipino word for a chair is "silya" (from Spanish) while in Tagalog it is "salumpuwit". On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 7:53 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82= =E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh > > > > Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 03:43:54 +0530 > > > > Tagalog script is added to Emacs this time. > > Thanks. > > > diff --git a/etc/NEWS b/etc/NEWS > > index 4f6df48129..4ded787888 100644 > > --- a/etc/NEWS > > +++ b/etc/NEWS > > @@ -800,6 +800,7 @@ corresponding language environments are: > > **** Siddham script and language environment > > **** Syloti Nagri script and language environment > > **** Modi script and language environment > > +**** Tagalog script and language environment > > I think this entry should not be together with the old Indic scripts, > it should be separate from them. Especially if you intend to add more > scripts/languages used in the Philippines. > > > +(set-language-info-alist > > + "Tagalog" '((charset unicode) > > + (coding-system utf-8) > > + (coding-priority utf-8) > > + (input-method . "tagalog") > > + (sample-text . "Baybayin (=E1=9C=8A=E1=9C=8C=E1=9C=94=E1= =9C=8A=E1=9C=8C=E1=9C=92=E1=9C=88=E1=9C=94) =E1=9C=83=E1=9C=93=E1=9C=8B= =E1=9C=93=E1=9C=90=E1=9C=94=E1=9C=86") > > + (documentation . "\ > > +Philippine Language Tagalog is supported in this language > environment."))) > > I wonder whether we should call the language-environment "Tagalog". > Why not "Filipino", which AFAIU is the official language name? > Perhaps also for the input method. > --000000000000706ac705df735f84 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think = this entry should not be together with the old Indic scripts,
it should be separate from them.=C2=A0 Especially if you intend to add more=
scripts/languages used in the Philippines.

= Tagalog and other philippine scripts also descend from Brahmi. They are als= o superseded by the Roman script, so I would consider them as old.

I wonder= whether we should call the language-environment "Tagalog".
Why not "Filipino", which AFAIU is the official language name? Perhaps also for the input method.

AF= AICT from the internet, Tagalog and Filipino are two different languages, F= ilipino is Tagalog with foreign loanwords, for e.g. the Filipino word for a= chair is "silya" (from Spanish)
while in Tagalog it is= "salumpuwit".

On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 7:53 PM Eli Zaretskii= <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l= eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">> From: =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4= =AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh
>=C2=A0 <l= umarzeli30@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 03:43:54 +0530
>
> Tagalog script=C2=A0 is added to Emacs this time.

Thanks.

> diff --git a/etc/NEWS b/etc/NEWS
> index 4f6df48129..4ded787888 100644
> --- a/etc/NEWS
> +++ b/etc/NEWS
> @@ -800,6 +800,7 @@ corresponding language environments are:
>=C2=A0 **** Siddham script and language environment
>=C2=A0 **** Syloti Nagri script and language environment
>=C2=A0 **** Modi script and language environment
> +**** Tagalog script and language environment

I think this entry should not be together with the old Indic scripts,
it should be separate from them.=C2=A0 Especially if you intend to add more=
scripts/languages used in the Philippines.

> +(set-language-info-alist
> + "Tagalog" '((charset unicode)
> +=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(coding-system utf-8)=
> +=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(coding-priority utf-= 8)
> +=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(input-method . "= ;tagalog")
> +=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(sample-text . "= Baybayin (=E1=9C=8A=E1=9C=8C=E1=9C=94=E1=9C=8A=E1=9C=8C=E1=9C=92=E1=9C=88= =E1=9C=94)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=E1=9C=83=E1=9C=93=E1=9C=8B=E1=9C=93=E1=9C=90= =E1=9C=94=E1=9C=86")
> +=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(documentation . &quo= t;\
> +Philippine Language Tagalog is supported in this language environment= .")))

I wonder whether we should call the language-environment "Tagalog"= ;.
Why not "Filipino", which AFAIU is the official language name? Perhaps also for the input method.
--000000000000706ac705df735f84-- From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:34:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55529: [PATCH] Add support for the Tagalog script Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 16:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55529 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Cc: 55529@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 55529-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55529.165306285528370 (code B ref 55529); Fri, 20 May 2022 16:08:02 +0000 Received: (at 55529) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 May 2022 16:07:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39962 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ns5A7-0007NV-F8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2022 12:07:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50156) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ns5A6-0007NL-ES for 55529@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2022 12:07:34 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56434) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ns5A0-0003ae-SN; Fri, 20 May 2022 12:07:29 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=3EHRSC/ixMVvKlafFvs4lSPQnkwfnFPKTjBkETxnA6Q=; b=b01VsfRkqdcJ9HaRzetp 36pi80at4SViQA4N7SqwnF68lvuXoNV5lJMM55GEehimaJ63Zs9+x2mruyNtYhX+txikW1nfvLq1s wzCkOUJos5bt/Usv/+eUETAEgT+/QFr88Tx5d5dZ4cVkUNc+Hw720mAmf5Qq1vwMOE4AhAh0BAUTB SvvG6yQZHFXkcujpWK1guZ+qlqy/MPoi1y9tOWYaeAYtlq4oKq3Yg3lBqsPfou0P2hE9mKeGZPSLD n1WR0F+eQnm7XHBEYflnyfwzZqY8cBDP2+bFfJZumZsccUE7hzI2R1PI/c26fxpxoByH7an0UN19/ gQx7atUe2WLZmQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2337 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ns5A0-0002eo-Aj; Fri, 20 May 2022 12:07:28 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 19:07:27 +0300 Message-Id: <83k0ag9ohs.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh on Fri, 20 May 2022 21:14:04 +0530) References: <83pmk89tbk.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: समीर सिंह Sameer Singh > Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 21:14:04 +0530 > Cc: 55529@debbugs.gnu.org > > I think this entry should not be together with the old Indic scripts, > it should be separate from them. Especially if you intend to add more > scripts/languages used in the Philippines. > > Tagalog and other philippine scripts also descend from Brahmi. They are also superseded by the Roman > script, so I would consider them as old. Fine with me, if you insist. But I raised a brow when I saw that, FWIW. And if you are talking mainly about a script, then its name is Baybayin, no? Tagalog is a language, not a script, right? > I wonder whether we should call the language-environment "Tagalog". > Why not "Filipino", which AFAIU is the official language name? > Perhaps also for the input method. > > AFAICT from the internet, Tagalog and Filipino are two different languages, Filipino is Tagalog with foreign > loanwords, for e.g. the Filipino word for a chair is "silya" (from Spanish) > while in Tagalog it is "salumpuwit". Is this really so important? The Wikipedia article says that Filipino is a version of Tagalog standardized by the constitution of 1987. Wouldn't it be better to support a modern language used nowadays and not just its older version? Looking at this another way: what will an Emacs user expect to find in Emacs as the supported language for the Philippines? 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Tagalog is a language, not a script, right? Yes, I was confused about that too, the Unicode documents only mention Tagalog and not Baybayin. This wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagalog_(Unicode_block) says that the Tagalog script is a variety of the Baybayin script. But still in etc/HELLO, I have used Baybayin as the native name, should I also change its English name? I was also thinking about changing the input method from Tagalog to Baybayin, should I do that? Is this really so important? The Wikipedia article says that Filipino > is a version of Tagalog standardized by the constitution of 1987. > Wouldn't it be better to support a modern language used nowadays and > not just its older version? > Doesn't the modern language use the Roman script, instead of Baybayin? Looking at this another way: what will an Emacs user expect to find in > Emacs as the supported language for the Philippines? > Atleast according to me, correct me if I am a filipino user will use the Roman script for the filipino language, while writing Tagalog he may look for Baybayin, which we have provided under the Tagalog language environment. On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 9:37 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82= =E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh > > Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 21:14:04 +0530 > > Cc: 55529@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > I think this entry should not be together with the old Indic scripts, > > it should be separate from them. Especially if you intend to add more > > scripts/languages used in the Philippines. > > > > Tagalog and other philippine scripts also descend from Brahmi. They are > also superseded by the Roman > > script, so I would consider them as old. > > Fine with me, if you insist. But I raised a brow when I saw that, > FWIW. > > And if you are talking mainly about a script, then its name is > Baybayin, no? Tagalog is a language, not a script, right? > > > I wonder whether we should call the language-environment "Tagalog". > > Why not "Filipino", which AFAIU is the official language name? > > Perhaps also for the input method. > > > > AFAICT from the internet, Tagalog and Filipino are two different > languages, Filipino is Tagalog with foreign > > loanwords, for e.g. the Filipino word for a chair is "silya" (from > Spanish) > > while in Tagalog it is "salumpuwit". > > Is this really so important? The Wikipedia article says that Filipino > is a version of Tagalog standardized by the constitution of 1987. > Wouldn't it be better to support a modern language used nowadays and > not just its older version? > > Looking at this another way: what will an Emacs user expect to find in > Emacs as the supported language for the Philippines? > --000000000000f9c84205df740804 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
And if y= ou are talking mainly about a script, then its name is
Baybayin, no?=C2=A0 Tagalog is a language, not a script, right?

Yes, I was confused about that too, the Unicode docume= nts only mention Tagalog and not Baybayin.
This wikipedia page: <= a href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagalog_(Unicode_block)">https://en= .wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagalog_(Unicode_block) says that the Tagalog scrip= t is a variety of the Baybayin script.
But still in etc/HELLO, I = have used Baybayin as the native name, should I also change its English nam= e? I was also thinking about changing the
input method from Tagal= og to Baybayin, should I do that?

Is this really so important?=C2=A0 The Wi= kipedia article says that Filipino
is a version of Tagalog standardized by the constitution of 1987.
Wouldn't it be better to support a modern language used nowadays and not just its older version?

Doesn'= ;t the modern language use the Roman script, instead of Baybayin?

Looking a= t this another way: what will an Emacs user expect to find in
Emacs as the supported language for the Philippines?

Atleast according to me, correct me if I am=C2=A0 a filipin= o user will use the Roman script for the filipino language, while writing T= agalog he may look for Baybayin, which we
have provided under the= Tagalog language environment.

On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 9:37 PM Eli= Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:<= br>
> From: =E0= =A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9 Same= er Singh <lum= arzeli30@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 21:14:04 +0530
> Cc: 55529@d= ebbugs.gnu.org
>
>=C2=A0 I think this entry should not be together with the old Indic scr= ipts,
>=C2=A0 it should be separate from them.=C2=A0 Especially if you intend = to add more
>=C2=A0 scripts/languages used in the Philippines.
>
> Tagalog and other philippine scripts also descend from Brahmi. They ar= e also superseded by the Roman
> script, so I would consider them as old.

Fine with me, if you insist.=C2=A0 But I raised a brow when I saw that,
FWIW.

And if you are talking mainly about a script, then its name is
Baybayin, no?=C2=A0 Tagalog is a language, not a script, right?

>=C2=A0 I wonder whether we should call the language-environment "T= agalog".
>=C2=A0 Why not "Filipino", which AFAIU is the official langua= ge name?
>=C2=A0 Perhaps also for the input method.
>
> AFAICT from the internet, Tagalog and Filipino are two different langu= ages, Filipino is Tagalog with foreign
> loanwords, for e.g. the Filipino word for a chair is "silya"= (from Spanish)
> while in Tagalog it is "salumpuwit".

Is this really so important?=C2=A0 The Wikipedia article says that Filipino=
is a version of Tagalog standardized by the constitution of 1987.
Wouldn't it be better to support a modern language used nowadays and not just its older version?

Looking at this another way: what will an Emacs user expect to find in
Emacs as the supported language for the Philippines?
--000000000000f9c84205df740804-- From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:34:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55529: [PATCH] Add support for the Tagalog script Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 08:24:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55529 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Cc: 55529@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 55529-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55529.165312139829450 (code B ref 55529); Sat, 21 May 2022 08:24:01 +0000 Received: (at 55529) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 May 2022 08:23:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40658 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nsKOL-0007ew-NH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 May 2022 04:23:17 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58192) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nsKOJ-0007ee-2T for 55529@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 May 2022 04:23:16 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48948) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nsKOD-0002H3-RW; Sat, 21 May 2022 04:23:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=kpKxOcZXMCEjETOWFroQhEAnnQtOWrjNwYremwn0IH4=; b=i3/sBqTp3CldwQJlkyBe I/X1/NL30CztM5rYlKAqDkKeku+R+qbPgqAtYGhmxZ3SWoIPltBYprwDwBjbyr9X2MHhQy8WMJ/ch zvXbLEtNMM7O4aDapKS/bmpqQDnQPUvZ905xk8/n+PJmpiosDSVCqmxbq81SYjjHMJisoJLe+mLNA JGVMCa6AP7IjAl+NtaT2Wt1PNa2ox45eOfFPy4ez/JxI6IPuymnlkeZWG4MwR3/QTnuvWSkDSEbaO e5nJzCEv/N/JPPFAsfSXKFgqQ8yvLULNpBLPJcTI2POCTTVRQQdh6LcpumaKnrImCw3uo9gwAs0r+ /rCshl+PcSqokQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3648 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nsKOD-0002dO-BD; Sat, 21 May 2022 04:23:09 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 11:23:03 +0300 Message-Id: <834k1j9tw8.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh on Fri, 20 May 2022 22:01:28 +0530) References: <83pmk89tbk.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0ag9ohs.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: समीर सिंह Sameer Singh > Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 22:01:28 +0530 > Cc: 55529@debbugs.gnu.org > > And if you are talking mainly about a script, then its name is > Baybayin, no? Tagalog is a language, not a script, right? > > Yes, I was confused about that too, the Unicode documents only mention Tagalog and not Baybayin. > This wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagalog_(Unicode_block) says that the Tagalog script is a > variety of the Baybayin script. > But still in etc/HELLO, I have used Baybayin as the native name, should I also change its English name? I think "Tagalog" as the English label in HELLO is okay, but the script native name in parentheses should be Baybayin. > I was also thinking about changing the > input method from Tagalog to Baybayin, should I do that? No, I think it should be 'tagalog', but the doc string should say that it supports the Baybayin script. > Is this really so important? The Wikipedia article says that Filipino > is a version of Tagalog standardized by the constitution of 1987. > Wouldn't it be better to support a modern language used nowadays and > not just its older version? > > Doesn't the modern language use the Roman script, instead of Baybayin? > > Looking at this another way: what will an Emacs user expect to find in > Emacs as the supported language for the Philippines? > > Atleast according to me, correct me if I am a filipino user will use the Roman script for the filipino language, > while writing Tagalog he may look for Baybayin, which we > have provided under the Tagalog language environment. OK, but please revise the doc strings and the comments to make sure we use "Tagalog" for the language and "Baybayin" for the script (except where we use the script name inherited from Unicode, which is actually the name of the Unicode block). AFAICT, the patch you posted wasn't consistent in that regard. And NEWS should mention both the language and the script names. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:34:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55529: [PATCH] Add support for the Tagalog script Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 09:40:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55529 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: lumarzeli30@gmail.com Cc: 55529@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 55529-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55529.16531259415008 (code B ref 55529); Sat, 21 May 2022 09:40:01 +0000 Received: (at 55529) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 May 2022 09:39:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40712 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nsLZd-0001Ib-2d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 May 2022 05:39:01 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38444) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nsLZb-0001IN-1i for 55529@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 May 2022 05:38:59 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49726) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nsLZV-0004Jp-OA; Sat, 21 May 2022 05:38:53 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=BvHuKgQOMviPYKDfSYq3hhGiVp3XbiB9Z9JtL4lvsWA=; b=sR+0SqindaPe T9Cx9VCMAnyszZ+UQndbpAZ0GZU+d4tq/48ewK96bVqgGxZDM9wK/ERNcXIdvGCGFyarfUFauDNQ0 cBrBmvZmrtAvkC9WrkBrBLucxo010HPJNFt8IVBxvp577EqOKiOonIXW8cAF/DYoyrToATU9bFhTa UZ74G7ZgSBs2DXY3C98ytOtBsUCESx2q08NJc/t6uDP3cNYHv5yDGdK7VV2erSZ+X5aeTWLFU2Ccv bGGATDZYYOQ9T0aasE4WzdlEByjt7acOa4sseCovkvfZOMP9LbqCbiIhZ6qGBvEpPG2bllkhyvugc qXUqnfnVTxnXsZ8dXo1Z6Q==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1142 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nsLZU-000346-DQ; Sat, 21 May 2022 05:38:53 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 12:38:46 +0300 Message-Id: <83v8tz8btl.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <834k1j9tw8.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 21 May 2022 11:23:03 +0300) References: <83pmk89tbk.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0ag9ohs.fsf@gnu.org> <834k1j9tw8.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 55529@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 11:23:03 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > > > Looking at this another way: what will an Emacs user expect to find in > > Emacs as the supported language for the Philippines? > > > > Atleast according to me, correct me if I am a filipino user will use the Roman script for the filipino language, > > while writing Tagalog he may look for Baybayin, which we > > have provided under the Tagalog language environment. > > OK, but please revise the doc strings and the comments to make sure we > use "Tagalog" for the language and "Baybayin" for the script (except > where we use the script name inherited from Unicode, which is actually > the name of the Unicode block). AFAICT, the patch you posted wasn't > consistent in that regard. And NEWS should mention both the language > and the script names. Btw, what fonts are considered to be good nowadays for displaying Tagalog/Baybayin? From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:34:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55529: [PATCH] Add support for the Tagalog script Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 15:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55529 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 55529@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 55529-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55529.165314575110976 (code B ref 55529); Sat, 21 May 2022 15:10:02 +0000 Received: (at 55529) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 May 2022 15:09:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42819 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nsQj8-0002qx-UE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 May 2022 11:09:11 -0400 Received: from mail-qk1-f176.google.com ([209.85.222.176]:44995) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nsQj6-0002qi-Vp for 55529@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 May 2022 11:09:09 -0400 Received: by mail-qk1-f176.google.com with SMTP id i68so8606833qke.11 for <55529@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 21 May 2022 08:09:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=5H6mAsWF00zSuNDRoft5ZmYWZRhyD+M/9whsbBG+RYU=; b=U0UOcMxM1HBMtchFdtyqGOtuc4H1m9gId2NTNVpSZiIhXSyxEssSJZNMwG8QO2JmND VEAh53xbv3kkQerylQb/Cq2vkLwlwJjk1wdJ3vV4Yc1FG04SucFLxNOKhx574npCIOwt +cyvk6l1haxHawuKgvwISu8MumTYRfyqCs/+PYwa0qlv8+GxagnB70CaM4MiX97gYdNA pNh6PXNqCWUfptMPmkIR/Ui/UFSyPvezThb6ZUzGXmZ6ixmFx5DwLuEwG9VYye94m4BH BHWsd1weSKSU04/h0pDm6U/c/7DWAf5hf730g88ZEuuVhotlsKmLckT6QmzKANrbagwR y/Dg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=5H6mAsWF00zSuNDRoft5ZmYWZRhyD+M/9whsbBG+RYU=; b=zRbxrbJ7iDu6q4FZXPqo9hrF4EfljPqcgCbPFG2B0nfgu3Pms5fpVopJDHaqwrnvVs tDHK35eezqjk0o4iG4xeX+jAJOSkeGgyuVCQ/gNjJnWTP3w7JQBfB/Xajfk2p7Pmw9Sl hl+cfcqKFXsszMt+OpYUzZTmC1KIIy1GnCA2fnMiHw9a56DjZXxScogU20pk2lv1TK9z 14hrPfZgvzW0lDlS/uvIYKukVYHD3WaoNjVmemYQyrgsLNwoG7gsm/vb24kaE5RtULK9 1x//u7EED1UEHJNJlcBLVCs0uYkB6iui73PeY9VfPXqeKBiLzgOamc/R833opl4sFARJ r4Ew== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530zECHP/BTyAxtqXnASzGU5tdSOzLvAgRDPfSeRvVy/MC7iK7Mp lyBmQ/zeWudWeAdApVpgizWFMZcgdb/pZCm6+h4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyu4jQNJbGYsipvW2fCexDN6smjEKE2y82oD2Kdo5bXnPeZhdlPKKz+8NAMB6Rva2gGZ7YZk2UVG5XCOnRnpBU= X-Received: by 2002:a37:d245:0:b0:69b:f262:bacb with SMTP id f66-20020a37d245000000b0069bf262bacbmr9500084qkj.66.1653145743436; Sat, 21 May 2022 08:09:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83pmk89tbk.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0ag9ohs.fsf@gnu.org> <834k1j9tw8.fsf@gnu.org> <83v8tz8btl.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83v8tz8btl.fsf@gnu.org> From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 20:38:05 +0530 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ccb51405df86fc82" X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) --000000000000ccb51405df86fc82 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I think "Tagalog" as the English label in HELLO is okay, but the > script native name in parentheses should be Baybayin. > > > I was also thinking about changing the > > input method from Tagalog to Baybayin, should I do that? > > No, I think it should be 'tagalog', but the doc string should say that > it supports the Baybayin script. > > > Is this really so important? The Wikipedia article says that Filipino > > is a version of Tagalog standardized by the constitution of 1987. > > Wouldn't it be better to support a modern language used nowadays and > > not just its older version? > > > > Doesn't the modern language use the Roman script, instead of Baybayin? > > > > Looking at this another way: what will an Emacs user expect to find in > > Emacs as the supported language for the Philippines? > > > > Atleast according to me, correct me if I am a filipino user will use > the Roman script for the filipino language, > > while writing Tagalog he may look for Baybayin, which we > > have provided under the Tagalog language environment. > > OK, but please revise the doc strings and the comments to make sure we > use "Tagalog" for the language and "Baybayin" for the script (except > where we use the script name inherited from Unicode, which is actually > the name of the Unicode block). AFAICT, the patch you posted wasn't > consistent in that regard. And NEWS should mention both the language > and the script names. > Thanks I will do these. Btw, what fonts are considered to be good nowadays for displaying > Tagalog/Baybayin? > https://github.com/ctrlcctrlv/Noto-Sans-Tagalog/tree/master/dist This is what worked best for me, the older Noto font did not have characters for Ra, Alternative Ra, and Pamudpod, this one has it. On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 3:08 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Cc: 55529@debbugs.gnu.org > > Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 11:23:03 +0300 > > From: Eli Zaretskii > > > > > Looking at this another way: what will an Emacs user expect to find in > > > Emacs as the supported language for the Philippines? > > > > > > Atleast according to me, correct me if I am a filipino user will use > the Roman script for the filipino language, > > > while writing Tagalog he may look for Baybayin, which we > > > have provided under the Tagalog language environment. > > > > OK, but please revise the doc strings and the comments to make sure we > > use "Tagalog" for the language and "Baybayin" for the script (except > > where we use the script name inherited from Unicode, which is actually > > the name of the Unicode block). AFAICT, the patch you posted wasn't > > consistent in that regard. And NEWS should mention both the language > > and the script names. > > Btw, what fonts are considered to be good nowadays for displaying > Tagalog/Baybayin? > --000000000000ccb51405df86fc82 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I t= hink "Tagalog" as the English label in HELLO is okay, but the
script native name in parentheses should be Baybayin.

> I was also thinking about changing the
> input method from Tagalog to Baybayin, should I do that?

 No, I think it should be 'tagalog', but the doc string should say t= hat
it supports the Baybayin script.

>=C2=A0 Is this really so important?=C2=A0 The Wikipedia article says th= at Filipino
>=C2=A0 is a version of Tagalog standardized by the constitution of 1987= .
>=C2=A0 Wouldn't it be better to support a modern language used nowa= days and
>=C2=A0 not just its older version?
>
> Doesn't the modern language use the Roman script, instead of Bayba= yin?
>
>=C2=A0 Looking at this another way: what will an Emacs user expect to f= ind in
>=C2=A0 Emacs as the supported language for the Philippines?
>
> Atleast according to me, correct me if I am=C2=A0 a filipino user will= use the Roman script for the filipino language,
> while writing Tagalog he may look for Baybayin, which we
> have provided under the Tagalog language environment.

 OK, but please revise the doc strings and the comments to make sure we
use "Tagalog" for the language and "Baybayin" for the s= cript (except
where we use the script name inherited from Unicode, which is actually
the name of the Unicode block).=C2=A0 AFAICT, the patch you posted wasn'= ;t
consistent in that regard.=C2=A0 And NEWS should mention both the language<= br> and the script names.
=C2=A0
Thanks I will= do these.

Btw, what fonts are considered to be good nowadays for displayin= g
Tagalog/Baybayin?

This is what = worked best for me, the older Noto font did not have characters for Ra, Alt= ernative Ra, and Pamudpod, this one has it.

On Sat, May 21, 2022= at 3:08 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org<= /a>> wrote:
&= gt; Cc: 55529@de= bbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 11:23:03 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
>
> >=C2=A0 Looking at this another way: what will an Emacs user expect= to find in
> >=C2=A0 Emacs as the supported language for the Philippines?
> >
> > Atleast according to me, correct me if I am=C2=A0 a filipino user= will use the Roman script for the filipino language,
> > while writing Tagalog he may look for Baybayin, which we
> > have provided under the Tagalog language environment.
>
> OK, but please revise the doc strings and the comments to make sure we=
> use "Tagalog" for the language and "Baybayin" for = the script (except
> where we use the script name inherited from Unicode, which is actually=
> the name of the Unicode block).=C2=A0 AFAICT, the patch you posted was= n't
> consistent in that regard.=C2=A0 And NEWS should mention both the lang= uage
> and the script names.

Btw, what fonts are considered to be good nowadays for displaying
Tagalog/Baybayin?
--000000000000ccb51405df86fc82-- From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:34:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55529: [PATCH] Add support for the Tagalog script Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 15:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55529 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 55529@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 55529-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55529.165314787614281 (code B ref 55529); Sat, 21 May 2022 15:45:02 +0000 Received: (at 55529) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 May 2022 15:44:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42831 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nsRHP-0003iF-18 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 May 2022 11:44:35 -0400 Received: from mail-qk1-f180.google.com ([209.85.222.180]:46049) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nsRHJ-0003hx-Rw for 55529@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 May 2022 11:44:33 -0400 Received: by mail-qk1-f180.google.com with SMTP id t2so5757349qkb.12 for <55529@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 21 May 2022 08:44:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=MF4VNe0dV5SgEsUHMJCgQOqdxvmolJVh1LDQTJ/Kudk=; b=NFvrJJ/KkWhFDK0jxTOxGpomZxa+QUx3WH4m291fK4bdJoQ1vfYhFRki78x9TLBca9 svphgeo2zapfbgM7dhSfL34GSXdCMCs78GzTLpV2cOeHEgLT0YWNE80+DhBoyU7e2tmf ksoCXb5/4pitfEZC8oDokJ3HnSweKnNqkUVjZuBkx4ePYbW/ECFxnds2gEqnwxMDtjbn I9+PMBgrDUOwqPFbOXj2MvTOrUB0YXGrDBQeRkT+5mzaJtm6s+qKfxQ/2Ru/AxC6lT3A 1M2+wkkVXk0SDgJNsYHwXQqXXXcgmBcUyQOG9pAlW08FRtZWnq6KOvvMBDqDUMVn/Q9n repg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=MF4VNe0dV5SgEsUHMJCgQOqdxvmolJVh1LDQTJ/Kudk=; b=JVwtLZoxpg0TsrG0m7O0HB2Vl/GuoYzlNxWsdvZDCKOMf33nAQQGXTYLNRkMNML0pj IrdOVvPWNcO2Mwk3tr3WMwLggMIIJH8kw1mGIMysVVb8Eb8gC2Xry19R6yUKMlUeA5sN DHIpO5SFbzE+YOpis2TLxgvxQTwQzAR0T0Z3FnRd6SwoEWKjSzjV1IAq/YTWWOcoqKxA s01ng/BIpIKtoMsqDMpPzc0gVb9tAeucNq3IJbv7XpGujiDV5V4Mn9oPdfIeBNuf7iba KYEG03inujY9EisjGmbYCevKQJlksHYWi6pfhRAlZ7Q2z2T8iZHwV5D9X+V/wnXb5ATG 3lvA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533EF1wZcXGRqto4SCV3+dEPjlxEB2d6yNfcjuh45AZauIyhLtOP +lmzudywKKyP22IsmH6OS/VxeGLVGYitugPBn7xEX2FKsz8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzsR0RnMRI38W9oDwnStRN3rnSjKhExVjkU4YpREqToB0FOyvKkj66R0rIDI3fccd/GILqhd8k9mToP+ybTGBo= X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:4708:b0:6a0:42da:a46f with SMTP id bs8-20020a05620a470800b006a042daa46fmr9256370qkb.469.1653147863202; Sat, 21 May 2022 08:44:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83pmk89tbk.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0ag9ohs.fsf@gnu.org> <834k1j9tw8.fsf@gnu.org> <83v8tz8btl.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 21:13:25 +0530 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="00000000000025eb7c05df877be5" X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) --00000000000025eb7c05df877be5 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000025eb7905df877be3" --00000000000025eb7905df877be3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here is the new patch, Please review it. On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 8:38 PM =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4= =B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh < lumarzeli30@gmail.com> wrote: > I think "Tagalog" as the English label in HELLO is okay, but the >> script native name in parentheses should be Baybayin. >> >> > I was also thinking about changing the >> > input method from Tagalog to Baybayin, should I do that? >> >> No, I think it should be 'tagalog', but the doc string should say that >> it supports the Baybayin script. >> >> > Is this really so important? The Wikipedia article says that Filipin= o >> > is a version of Tagalog standardized by the constitution of 1987. >> > Wouldn't it be better to support a modern language used nowadays and >> > not just its older version? >> > >> > Doesn't the modern language use the Roman script, instead of Baybayin? >> > >> > Looking at this another way: what will an Emacs user expect to find i= n >> > Emacs as the supported language for the Philippines? >> > >> > Atleast according to me, correct me if I am a filipino user will use >> the Roman script for the filipino language, >> > while writing Tagalog he may look for Baybayin, which we >> > have provided under the Tagalog language environment. >> >> OK, but please revise the doc strings and the comments to make sure we >> use "Tagalog" for the language and "Baybayin" for the script (except >> where we use the script name inherited from Unicode, which is actually >> the name of the Unicode block). AFAICT, the patch you posted wasn't >> consistent in that regard. And NEWS should mention both the language >> and the script names. >> > > Thanks I will do these. > > Btw, what fonts are considered to be good nowadays for displaying >> Tagalog/Baybayin? >> > > https://github.com/ctrlcctrlv/Noto-Sans-Tagalog/tree/master/dist > This is what worked best for me, the older Noto font did not have > characters for Ra, Alternative Ra, and Pamudpod, this one has it. > > On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 3:08 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> > Cc: 55529@debbugs.gnu.org >> > Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 11:23:03 +0300 >> > From: Eli Zaretskii >> > >> > > Looking at this another way: what will an Emacs user expect to find >> in >> > > Emacs as the supported language for the Philippines? >> > > >> > > Atleast according to me, correct me if I am a filipino user will us= e >> the Roman script for the filipino language, >> > > while writing Tagalog he may look for Baybayin, which we >> > > have provided under the Tagalog language environment. >> > >> > OK, but please revise the doc strings and the comments to make sure we >> > use "Tagalog" for the language and "Baybayin" for the script (except >> > where we use the script name inherited from Unicode, which is actually >> > the name of the Unicode block). AFAICT, the patch you posted wasn't >> > consistent in that regard. And NEWS should mention both the language >> > and the script names. >> >> Btw, what fonts are considered to be good nowadays for displaying >> Tagalog/Baybayin? >> > --00000000000025eb7905df877be3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here is the new patch, Please review it.
<= br>
On Sat,= May 21, 2022 at 8:38 PM =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0= =A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh <lumarzeli30@gmail.com> wrote:
I think "Tagalog" as the English label = in HELLO is okay, but the
script native name in parentheses should be Baybayin.

> I was also thinking about changing the
> input method from Tagalog to Baybayin, should I do that?

 No, I think it should be 'tagalog', but the doc string should say t= hat
it supports the Baybayin script.

>=C2=A0 Is this really so important?=C2=A0 The Wikipedia article says th= at Filipino
>=C2=A0 is a version of Tagalog standardized by the constitution of 1987= .
>=C2=A0 Wouldn't it be better to support a modern language used nowa= days and
>=C2=A0 not just its older version?
>
> Doesn't the modern language use the Roman script, instead of Bayba= yin?
>
>=C2=A0 Looking at this another way: what will an Emacs user expect to f= ind in
>=C2=A0 Emacs as the supported language for the Philippines?
>
> Atleast according to me, correct me if I am=C2=A0 a filipino user will= use the Roman script for the filipino language,
> while writing Tagalog he may look for Baybayin, which we
> have provided under the Tagalog language environment.

 OK, but please revise the doc strings and the comments to make sure we
use "Tagalog" for the language and "Baybayin" for the s= cript (except
where we use the script name inherited from Unicode, which is actually
the name of the Unicode block).=C2=A0 AFAICT, the patch you posted wasn'= ;t
consistent in that regard.=C2=A0 And NEWS should mention both the language<= br> and the script names.
=C2=A0
Thanks I will= do these.

Btw, what fonts are considered to be good nowadays for displayin= g
Tagalog/Baybayin?

=
This is what worked best for me, the older Noto font did not have char= acters for Ra, Alternative Ra, and Pamudpod, this one has it.

On = Sat, May 21, 2022 at 3:08 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> Cc: 55529@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 11:23:03 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
>
> >=C2=A0 Looking at this another way: what will an Emacs user expect= to find in
> >=C2=A0 Emacs as the supported language for the Philippines?
> >
> > Atleast according to me, correct me if I am=C2=A0 a filipino user= will use the Roman script for the filipino language,
> > while writing Tagalog he may look for Baybayin, which we
> > have provided under the Tagalog language environment.
>
> OK, but please revise the doc strings and the comments to make sure we=
> use "Tagalog" for the language and "Baybayin" for = the script (except
> where we use the script name inherited from Unicode, which is actually=
> the name of the Unicode block).=C2=A0 AFAICT, the patch you posted was= n't
> consistent in that regard.=C2=A0 And NEWS should mention both the lang= uage
> and the script names.

Btw, what fonts are considered to be good nowadays for displaying
Tagalog/Baybayin?
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help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Subject: bug#55529: closed (Re: bug#55529: [PATCH] Add support for the Tagalog script) Message-ID: References: <83tu9i6nco.fsf@gnu.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 55529 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs X-Gnu-PR-Keywords: patch Reply-To: 55529@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sun, 22 May 2022 07:26:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1653204362-3736-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1653204362-3736-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #55529: [PATCH] Add support for the Tagalog script which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 55529@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 55529: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D55529 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1653204362-3736-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 55529-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 May 2022 07:25:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43591 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nsfxw-0000x5-8C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 May 2022 03:25:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33438) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nsfxt-0000wk-1Y for 55529-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 May 2022 03:25:26 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36830) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nsfxn-00021b-Kw; Sun, 22 May 2022 03:25:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=UCdhF88Kai+bR820b3yZvKpeQ12g+HPmqdX4fATl4yY=; b=NA8UjfzURGenjtcKIVvF blzaVgmIb30vpxPG9ZAbxTQnl5qwJVlpd4ersMJk63CCkZx6Xhwgm5Zh/LTIMyVC0p45vHwQu2DC2 CsVS6bQdNbJ6s+1NCRsbXiZXIl/KRl8dSH5NePUvDABS8S7N5juE9ldfrFhb4L2tLST/NI9EhVIyA FiJSfxfLD4k1qzdWuoZgCobfqgNXVNpNXRoMXVv4s8UMFDKRFrT8OPCU8VC7oRHiAeWcX8tCyUcWZ T7/My6mmjdaMIVSf3JbiXGMYgi4mTjrM/e37t6UAlyUc58tv0NX8WXUXXJ57jm6355HP/wab3X/Lh OOwx++ad366gOA==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1843 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nsfxh-0004Rr-1n; Sun, 22 May 2022 03:25:19 -0400 Date: Sun, 22 May 2022 10:24:55 +0300 Message-Id: <83tu9i6nco.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: =?utf-8?B?4KS44KSu4KWA4KSwIOCkuOCkv+CkguCkuSBTYW1lZXIgU2luZ2g=?= In-Reply-To: (message from =?utf-8?B?4KS44KSu4KWA4KSwIOCkuOCkv+CkguCkuQ==?= Sameer Singh on Sat, 21 May 2022 21:13:25 +0530) Subject: Re: bug#55529: [PATCH] Add support for the Tagalog script References: <83pmk89tbk.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0ag9ohs.fsf@gnu.org> <834k1j9tw8.fsf@gnu.org> <83v8tz8btl.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55529-done Cc: 55529-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: समीर सिंह Sameer Singh > Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 21:13:25 +0530 > Cc: 55529@debbugs.gnu.org > > Here is the new patch, Please review it. 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Please review the patch. Thank You. --000000000000b0b38505df64b373 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tagalog script=C2=A0 is added to Emacs this time.

Please review the patch.
Thank You.
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=?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Date: Sun, 22 May 2022 12:58:41 +0530 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f0c28005df94acf3" X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) --000000000000f0c28005df94acf3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks! Also here is the Tagalog font, in case you missed it. https://github.com/ctrlcctrlv/Noto-Sans-Tagalog/tree/master/dist =E0=A4=B0=E0=A4=B5=E0=A4=BF, 22 =E0=A4=AE=E0=A4=88 2022, 12:55 pm =E0=A4=95= =E0=A5=8B Eli Zaretskii =E0=A4=A8=E0=A5=87 =E0=A4=B2=E0=A4= =BF=E0=A4=96=E0=A4=BE: > > From: =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82= =E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh > > Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 21:13:25 +0530 > > Cc: 55529@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > Here is the new patch, Please review it. > > Thanks, installed. > --000000000000f0c28005df94acf3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks!

Also= here is the Tagalog font, in case you missed it.
= https://github.com/ctrlcctrlv/Noto-Sans-Tagalog/tree/master/dist

=E0=A4=B0=E0=A4=B5=E0=A4=BF, 22 =E0=A4=AE=E0=A4=88 2022, 12:55 pm =E0=A4= =95=E0=A5=8B Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org= > =E0=A4=A8=E0=A5=87 =E0=A4=B2=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=96=E0=A4=BE:
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> From: =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4= =B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh <lumarzeli30@gm= ail.com>
> Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 21:13:25 +0530
> Cc: 55529@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> Here is the new patch, Please review it.

Thanks, installed.
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