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( https://legislative.gov.in/sites/default/files/A2011-15.pdf) Here is a patch to do the same in Emacs. I have not changed it wherever unicode, is13194, iso639, cdac and akruti were involved, since they all use the old name. (I am not sure about cdac though, because I was not able to run their software) There was also a typo in erc/erc-lang.el and lisp/ldefs-boot.el, iso639-1 was written as iso638, I fixed that. Please review the patch. Also please check if the commit message is correct. Thank You. --00000000000027fb2505df3de7de Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Since Oriya was renamed to Odia in 2011. (https://legisl= ative.gov.in/sites/default/files/A2011-15.pdf) Here is a patch to do th= e same in Emacs.

I have not changed it wherever un= icode, is13194, iso639, cdac and akruti were involved, since they all use t= he old name. (I am not sure about cdac though, because I was not able to ru= n their software)

There was also a typo in erc/erc= -lang.el and lisp/ldefs-boot.el, iso639-1 was written as iso638, I fixed th= at.

Please review the patch.
Also please= check if the commit message is correct.
Thank You.
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(https://legislative.gov.in/site= s/default/files/A2011-15.pdf) Here is a patch to do > the same in Emacs. > > I have not changed it wherever unicode, is13194, iso639, cdac and akruti = were involved, since they all use the old name. (I am > not sure about cdac though, because I was not able to run their software) > > There was also a typo in erc/erc-lang.el and lisp/ldefs-boot.el, iso639-1= was written as iso638, I fixed that. > > Please review the patch. > Also please check if the commit message is correct. > Thank You. In the interest of preserving backward compatibility, I think we should define indian-ori-base-table and indian-ori-itrans-v5-hash an obsolete alias of indian-odi-base-table and indian-odi-itrans-v5-hash. I don't think we can do such a thing for the language environments or the input methods tho. We also need to announce these changes in NEWS. I think we should include the bill link in the commit message for future readers. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 18 08:34:43 2022 Received: (at 55493) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2022 12:34:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59305 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrIt0-0004gE-4I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 08:34:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57236) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrIst-0004fx-Nf for 55493@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 08:34:40 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56490) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrIsk-000858-U5; Wed, 18 May 2022 08:34:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=wTdisQocwZFTwxrdVhEnkNlnjCk58+BngTrmhmArWWw=; b=CrDFYSBwojBHYhAXIesp CEua/HVtXBRHk3yA/mv6fq+Ue2RUsrhASU2PxecoOO1/JZQFaI7Semhw1vbEWXlmw48yZ2vzM2m8P HpF0kYOkE6aUNCLB0dJZfJmM0hU08b+e3m3UUfjVMNqdoewQuWyXc11yh6bC+cu90MMh70TObHhYb Mz5xmPQa1sEvzC56RoxKgZd/ZPhq7hLlyecaIJ9sBZGo055gn0Rwv/kx0ntbVh51Z9NBkgT1qjp6V 9uxMChA1dJDIkPT26CWoF0JIzQHhYgZQxyBOfoLiS/QgHlmJV8ODID01/hQ2hEBUvVKTuQQJ/xct/ FAapurRSFqdrvg==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3217 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrIsc-0003KI-G7; Wed, 18 May 2022 08:34:23 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 15:34:11 +0300 Message-Id: <83czgbf29o.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: =?utf-8?B?4KS44KSu4KWA4KSwIOCkuOCkv+CkguCkuSBTYW1lZXIgU2luZ2g=?= In-Reply-To: (lumarzeli30@gmail.com) Subject: Re: bug#55493: [PATCH] Rename Oriya to Odia References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55493 Cc: 55493@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: समीर सिंह Sameer Singh > > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 05:26:39 +0530 > > Since Oriya was renamed to Odia in 2011. (https://legislative.gov.in/sites/default/files/A2011-15.pdf) Here is a > patch to do the same in Emacs. > > I have not changed it wherever unicode, is13194, iso639, cdac and akruti were involved, since they all use the > old name. (I am not sure about cdac though, because I was not able to run their software) > > There was also a typo in erc/erc-lang.el and lisp/ldefs-boot.el, iso639-1 was written as iso638, I fixed that. > > Please review the patch. Thanks. In general, this patch is too radical, and unnecessarily so. > * etc/HELLO: Rename Oriya to Odia. The changes to HELLO do more that the above says. I don't think I understand the reason for the change in the "South Asia" line. Also, please include the bug number in the commit log message. > -;; FIXME: It's ISO 639-1, not ISO 638. ISO 638 is for paper, board and pulps. > -;; The Lisp variable should be renamed. > - > -(defvar iso-638-languages > +(defvar iso-639-1-languages This is unrelated, and I see no reason to rename the variable in a backward-incompatible way. It's just a variable, so it doesn't have to be named rigorously correct. If we were discussing new code, the correction would have had its place, but not now, 16 years after it was introduced. > diff --git a/lisp/language/ind-util.el b/lisp/language/ind-util.el > index 60ada03fa2..dede705a30 100644 > --- a/lisp/language/ind-util.el > +++ b/lisp/language/ind-util.el > @@ -113,7 +113,7 @@ indian-gjr-base-table > (;; Inscript-extra (4) (#, $, ^, *, ]) > "્ર" "ર્" "ત્ર" "શ્ર" "઼"))) > > -(defvar indian-ori-base-table > +(defvar indian-odi-base-table I don't think we should rename variables and functions. It's just a lot of hassle for us (defalias etc.) and potentially for others, and the gain is very small. This variable doesn't even say "oriya", just "ori". Let's not be too radical here. > @@ -549,8 +549,8 @@ indian-gjr-itrans-v5-hash > (indian-make-hash indian-gjr-base-table > indian-itrans-v5-table)) > > -(defvar indian-ori-itrans-v5-hash > - (indian-make-hash indian-ori-base-table > +(defvar indian-odi-itrans-v5-hash > + (indian-make-hash indian-odi-base-table > indian-itrans-v5-table)) Likewise here (and elsewhere in similar changes). > (set-language-info-alist > - "Oriya" '((charset unicode) > - (coding-system utf-8) > - (coding-priority utf-8) > - (input-method . "oriya-itrans") > - (sample-text . "Oriya (ଓଡ଼ିଆ) ନମସ୍କାର") > - (documentation . "\ > -Such languages using Oriya script as Oriya, Khonti, and Santali > + "Odia" '((charset unicode) ;; formerly Oriya > + (coding-system utf-8) > + (coding-priority utf-8) > + (input-method . "odia-itrans") > + (sample-text . "Odia (ଓଡ଼ିଆ) ନମସ୍କାର") > + (documentation . "\ > +Such languages using Odia script as Odia, Khonti, and Santali > are supported in this language environment.")) > '("Indian")) The doc string should say that this language environment was previously named "Oriya". > diff --git a/lisp/ldefs-boot.el b/lisp/ldefs-boot.el > index 95ad2f78cf..ade3e9c69c 100644 > --- a/lisp/ldefs-boot.el > +++ b/lisp/ldefs-boot.el This file is regenerated automatically, so this part should be omitted. > diff --git a/lisp/leim/quail/indian.el b/lisp/leim/quail/indian.el > index 95798a4477..e06464dc24 100644 > --- a/lisp/leim/quail/indian.el > +++ b/lisp/leim/quail/indian.el > @@ -91,10 +91,10 @@ "\\''" > "Gujarati transliteration by ITRANS method.") > > (if nil > - (quail-define-package "oriya-itrans" "Oriya" "OriIT" t "Oriya ITRANS")) > + (quail-define-package "odia-itrans" "Odia" "OdiIT" t "Odia ITRANS")) We cannot rename an input method we had for almost 20 years. If there is some way of having an alias for an input method (I don't think so, but maybe I'm missing something), let's use that; otherwise we will have either to leave the old name alone or define a new input method that is an exact copy of the old one, except for the name and the mode-line indicator. > - /* Workaround for crash when displaying Oriya characters > + /* Workaround for crash when displaying Odia characters This is incorrect: characters are named by Unicode, and Unicode still calls that block Oriya (and will not change the name, AFAIU). 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We could point to that in the commit log message. 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I don't think I > understand the reason for the change in the "South Asia" line. The South Asia line was correcting the Odia greeting, which I had changed previously (from "Listen" to "Namaskaar") This is unrelated, and I see no reason to rename the variable in a > backward-incompatible way. It's just a variable, so it doesn't have > to be named rigorously correct. If we were discussing new code, the > correction would have had its place, but not now, 16 years after it > was introduced. > This variable name is somewhat misleading. When I searched "iso 638", online to see whether the language codes were updated or not, it showed me results for oven boards, later when searching "iso 638 languages" I realized that the correct standard number is 639. There was also a FIXME above it, so I fixed that. If there is a backward-compatible way to change it please tell me, or if you still feel the change is not warranted, I will revert this it. I don't think we should rename variables and functions. It's just a > lot of hassle for us (defalias etc.) and potentially for others, and > the gain is very small. This variable doesn't even say "oriya", just > "ori". Let's not be too radical here. > Then I should only rename in etc/HELLO, and in (set-language-info-alist) of lisp/language/indian.el. We cannot rename an input method we had for almost 20 years. If there > is some way of having an alias for an input method (I don't think so, > but maybe I'm missing something), let's use that; otherwise we will > have either to leave the old name alone or define a new input method > that is an exact copy of the old one, except for the name and the > mode-line indicator. > How about I make a new Odia input system, just like the ones which I had made for the other scripts, and leave the old ones alone? On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 6:18 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Cc: 55493@debbugs.gnu.org > > From: Visuwesh > > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 09:57:56 +0530 > > > > I think we should include the bill link in the commit message for future > > readers. > > We could point to that in the commit log message. > --0000000000004eb9c705df4b0e2d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The chan= ges to HELLO do more that the above says.=C2=A0 I don't think I
understand the reason for the change in the "South Asia" line.

The South Asia line was correcting the Odia g= reeting, which I had changed previously (from "Listen" to "N= amaskaar")

This is unrelated, and I see no reason to rename the v= ariable in a
backward-incompatible way.=C2=A0 It's just a variable, so it doesn'= t have
to be named rigorously correct.=C2=A0 If we were discussing new code, the correction would have had its place, but not now, 16 years after it
was introduced.

This variable name is= somewhat misleading. When I searched "iso 638", online to see wh= ether the language codes were updated or not,
=C2=A0it showed me = results for oven boards, later when searching "iso 638 languages"= I realized that the correct standard number is 639.
There was al= so a FIXME above it, so I fixed that.
If there is a backward-comp= atible way to change it please tell me, or if you still feel the change is = not warranted, I will revert this it.

I don't think we should rename va= riables and functions.=C2=A0 It's just a
lot of hassle for us (defalias etc.) and potentially for others, and
the gain is very small.=C2=A0 This variable doesn't even say "oriy= a", just
"ori".=C2=A0 Let's not be too radical here.

Then I should only rename in etc/HEL= LO, and in (set-language-info-alist) of lisp/language/indian.el.
<= div>
We can= not rename an input method we had for almost 20 years.=C2=A0 If there
is some way of having an alias for an input method (I don't think so, but maybe I'm missing something), let's use that; otherwise we will=
have either to leave the old name alone or define a new input method
that is an exact copy of the old one, except for the name and the
mode-line indicator.

How about I make= a new Odia input system, just like the ones which I had made for the other= scripts, and leave the old ones alone?

On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 6:18 P= M Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wr= ote:
> Cc: 55493@debbugs.gnu.= org
> From: Visuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 09:57:56 +0530
>
> I think we should include the bill link in the commit message for futu= re
> readers.

We could point to that in the commit log message.
--0000000000004eb9c705df4b0e2d-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 18 11:57:42 2022 Received: (at 55493) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2022 15:57:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33290 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrM3R-0002kx-Sn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 11:57:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50160) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrM3Q-0002kl-T2 for 55493@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 11:57:41 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33110) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrM3K-00018R-Vk; Wed, 18 May 2022 11:57:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=Vuuan4RuMasZVZOBcW1l7ck8ym+EtE3GC4kUKgNtzRY=; b=AtS8e/DaJHUseSSW1EH2 kXgU55O3xPFgQI5zP3oZ81oLza4Nvj8EStEoKJe6EPFwab4RRhsH0U7wP1XgihyqE4tpHeeDik7vX 2s5TRiYWSAFHx7O0uqELQY+5+zr0lZQzGRiLE+oHE4PVi+gGIj00NrhsoPo7GxTuf0zsib8WlkerF wEGVeARdesGIJEVA4R8X5q+nKtYpbg2LfxsCZPL9qDkwsTIqKeEf1jzu5tS3JkhlBEPaPh4wRZC1h 9w+UrDkyTIC5MexYFiruPSiq5VMiprta03trvivGVsd2wu58hHCahA+k3618Pi2VLNPVLyCgdhuuE 5prPxW76+iKtvw==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3817 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrM3J-0002QM-Hz; Wed, 18 May 2022 11:57:34 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 18:57:28 +0300 Message-Id: <83v8u2esuv.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: =?utf-8?B?4KS44KSu4KWA4KSwIOCkuOCkv+CkguCkuSBTYW1lZXIgU2luZ2g=?= In-Reply-To: (message from =?utf-8?B?4KS44KSu4KWA4KSwIOCkuOCkv+CkguCkuQ==?= Sameer Singh on Wed, 18 May 2022 21:08:09 +0530) Subject: Re: bug#55493: [PATCH] Rename Oriya to Odia References: <87wnejv50z.fsf@gmail.com> <838rqzf1mo.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55493 Cc: 55493@debbugs.gnu.org, visuweshm@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: समीर सिंह Sameer Singh > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 21:08:09 +0530 > Cc: Visuwesh , 55493@debbugs.gnu.org > > The changes to HELLO do more that the above says. I don't think I > understand the reason for the change in the "South Asia" line. > > The South Asia line was correcting the Odia greeting, which I had changed previously (from "Listen" to > "Namaskaar") Please reflect that in the log message. > This is unrelated, and I see no reason to rename the variable in a > backward-incompatible way. It's just a variable, so it doesn't have > to be named rigorously correct. If we were discussing new code, the > correction would have had its place, but not now, 16 years after it > was introduced. > > This variable name is somewhat misleading. When I searched "iso 638", online to see whether the language > codes were updated or not, > it showed me results for oven boards, later when searching "iso 638 languages" I realized that the correct > standard number is 639. > There was also a FIXME above it, so I fixed that. > If there is a backward-compatible way to change it please tell me, or if you still feel the change is not > warranted, I will revert this it. A backward-compatible change would need to introduce an obsolete alias with the old name. > I don't think we should rename variables and functions. It's just a > lot of hassle for us (defalias etc.) and potentially for others, and > the gain is very small. This variable doesn't even say "oriya", just > "ori". Let's not be too radical here. > > Then I should only rename in etc/HELLO, and in (set-language-info-alist) of lisp/language/indian.el. Yes, I think so. > We cannot rename an input method we had for almost 20 years. If there > is some way of having an alias for an input method (I don't think so, > but maybe I'm missing something), let's use that; otherwise we will > have either to leave the old name alone or define a new input method > that is an exact copy of the old one, except for the name and the > mode-line indicator. > > How about I make a new Odia input system, just like the ones which I had made for the other scripts, and > leave the old ones alone? By "input system", do you mean a separate language-environment with a separate input method? That would be OK, I think. Thanks. 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That would be OK, I think I meant to say, "input method". Is there a need for a separate language-environment? I think only writing a new input-method will be sufficient, right? On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 9:27 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82= =E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh > > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 21:08:09 +0530 > > Cc: Visuwesh , 55493@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > The changes to HELLO do more that the above says. I don't think I > > understand the reason for the change in the "South Asia" line. > > > > The South Asia line was correcting the Odia greeting, which I had > changed previously (from "Listen" to > > "Namaskaar") > > Please reflect that in the log message. > > > This is unrelated, and I see no reason to rename the variable in a > > backward-incompatible way. It's just a variable, so it doesn't have > > to be named rigorously correct. If we were discussing new code, the > > correction would have had its place, but not now, 16 years after it > > was introduced. > > > > This variable name is somewhat misleading. When I searched "iso 638", > online to see whether the language > > codes were updated or not, > > it showed me results for oven boards, later when searching "iso 638 > languages" I realized that the correct > > standard number is 639. > > There was also a FIXME above it, so I fixed that. > > If there is a backward-compatible way to change it please tell me, or i= f > you still feel the change is not > > warranted, I will revert this it. > > A backward-compatible change would need to introduce an obsolete alias > with the old name. > > > I don't think we should rename variables and functions. It's just a > > lot of hassle for us (defalias etc.) and potentially for others, and > > the gain is very small. This variable doesn't even say "oriya", just > > "ori". Let's not be too radical here. > > > > Then I should only rename in etc/HELLO, and in (set-language-info-alist= ) > of lisp/language/indian.el. > > Yes, I think so. > > > We cannot rename an input method we had for almost 20 years. If there > > is some way of having an alias for an input method (I don't think so, > > but maybe I'm missing something), let's use that; otherwise we will > > have either to leave the old name alone or define a new input method > > that is an exact copy of the old one, except for the name and the > > mode-line indicator. > > > > How about I make a new Odia input system, just like the ones which I ha= d > made for the other scripts, and > > leave the old ones alone? > > By "input system", do you mean a separate language-environment with a > separate input method? That would be OK, I think. > > Thanks. > --000000000000bfc6cb05df4ba48b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
By "= ;input system", do you mean a separate language-environment with a
separate input method?=C2=A0 That would be OK, I think
I meant to say, "input method".
Is there a = need for a separate language-environment?
I think only writi= ng a new input-method=C2=A0 will be sufficient, right?
On Wed, M= ay 18, 2022 at 9:27 PM Eli Zaretskii <el= iz@gnu.org> wrote:
> From: =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4= =BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh <lumarzeli30@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 21:08:09 +0530
> Cc: Visuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com>, 55493@debbugs.gnu.org
>
>=C2=A0 The changes to HELLO do more that the above says.=C2=A0 I don= 9;t think I
>=C2=A0 understand the reason for the change in the "South Asia&quo= t; line.
>
> The South Asia line was correcting the Odia greeting, which I had chan= ged previously (from "Listen" to
> "Namaskaar")

Please reflect that in the log message.

>=C2=A0 This is unrelated, and I see no reason to rename the variable in= a
>=C2=A0 backward-incompatible way.=C2=A0 It's just a variable, so it= doesn't have
>=C2=A0 to be named rigorously correct.=C2=A0 If we were discussing new = code, the
>=C2=A0 correction would have had its place, but not now, 16 years after= it
>=C2=A0 was introduced.
>
> This variable name is somewhat misleading. When I searched "iso 6= 38", online to see whether the language
> codes were updated or not,
>=C2=A0 it showed me results for oven boards, later when searching "= ;iso 638 languages" I realized that the correct
> standard number is 639.
> There was also a FIXME above it, so I fixed that.
> If there is a backward-compatible way to change it please tell me, or = if you still feel the change is not
> warranted, I will revert this it.

A backward-compatible change would need to introduce an obsolete alias
with the old name.

>=C2=A0 I don't think we should rename variables and functions.=C2= =A0 It's just a
>=C2=A0 lot of hassle for us (defalias etc.) and potentially for others,= and
>=C2=A0 the gain is very small.=C2=A0 This variable doesn't even say= "oriya", just
>=C2=A0 "ori".=C2=A0 Let's not be too radical here.
>
> Then I should only rename in etc/HELLO, and in (set-language-info-alis= t) of lisp/language/indian.el.

Yes, I think so.

>=C2=A0 We cannot rename an input method we had for almost 20 years.=C2= =A0 If there
>=C2=A0 is some way of having an alias for an input method (I don't = think so,
>=C2=A0 but maybe I'm missing something), let's use that; otherw= ise we will
>=C2=A0 have either to leave the old name alone or define a new input me= thod
>=C2=A0 that is an exact copy of the old one, except for the name and th= e
>=C2=A0 mode-line indicator.
>
> How about I make a new Odia input system, just like the ones which I h= ad made for the other scripts, and
> leave the old ones alone?

By "input system", do you mean a separate language-environment wi= th a
separate input method?=C2=A0 That would be OK, I think.

Thanks.
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That would be OK, I think > > I meant to say, "input method". It's okay to have a separate input method, yes. > Is there a need for a separate language-environment? > I think only writing a new input-method will be sufficient, right? Yes, I hope so. 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Please review this. Thank You. On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 10:20 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82= =E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh > > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 21:50:13 +0530 > > Cc: Visuwesh , 55493@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > By "input system", do you mean a separate language-environment with a > > separate input method? That would be OK, I think > > > > I meant to say, "input method". > > It's okay to have a separate input method, yes. > > > Is there a need for a separate language-environment? > > I think only writing a new input-method will be sufficient, right? > > Yes, I hope so. > --00000000000097e4fd05df4f2b8d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here is the latest patch.

Pl= ease review this.
Thank You.

On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 10:= 20 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>= ; wrote:
> Fr= om: =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4= =B9 Sameer Singh <lumarzeli30@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 21:50:13 +0530
> Cc: Visuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com>, 55493@debbugs.gnu.org
>
>=C2=A0 By "input system", do you mean a separate language-env= ironment with a
>=C2=A0 separate input method?=C2=A0 That would be OK, I think
>
> I meant to say, "input method".

It's okay to have a separate input method, yes.

> Is there a need for a separate language-environment?
> I think only writing a new input-method=C2=A0 will be sufficient, righ= t?

Yes, I hope so.
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[87.69.77.57] (port=4002 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrfNt-0000tM-Kv; Thu, 19 May 2022 08:36:07 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 15:36:01 +0300 Message-Id: <83tu9ld7im.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: =?utf-8?B?4KS44KSu4KWA4KSwIOCkuOCkv+CkguCkuSBTYW1lZXIgU2luZ2g=?= In-Reply-To: (message from =?utf-8?B?4KS44KSu4KWA4KSwIOCkuOCkv+CkguCkuQ==?= Sameer Singh on Thu, 19 May 2022 02:02:40 +0530) Subject: Re: bug#55493: [PATCH] Rename Oriya to Odia References: <87wnejv50z.fsf@gmail.com> <838rqzf1mo.fsf@gnu.org> <83v8u2esuv.fsf@gnu.org> <83o7zueqea.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55493-done Cc: 55493-done@debbugs.gnu.org, visuweshm@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: समीर सिंह Sameer Singh > Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 02:02:40 +0530 > Cc: Visuwesh , 55493@debbugs.gnu.org > > Here is the latest patch. Thanks, I installed it. I also added an "Oriya" language-environment, which is an exact copy of "Odia", so that people could still activate it under the old name. 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On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 6:06 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82= =E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh > > Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 02:02:40 +0530 > > Cc: Visuwesh , 55493@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > Here is the latest patch. > > Thanks, I installed it. I also added an "Oriya" language-environment, > which is an exact copy of "Odia", so that people could still activate > it under the old name. > --000000000000a75da705df627a25 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Great Thanks !

On Thu, May = 19, 2022 at 6:06 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@= gnu.org> wrote:
> From: =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF= =E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh <lumarzeli30@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 02:02:40 +0530
> Cc: Visuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com>, 55493@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> Here is the latest patch.

Thanks, I installed it.=C2=A0 I also added an "Oriya" language-en= vironment,
which is an exact copy of "Odia", so that people could still acti= vate
it under the old name.
--000000000000a75da705df627a25-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 19 19:13:31 2022 Received: (at 55493) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2022 23:13:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36830 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrpKl-0004Ga-23 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 19:13:31 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34664) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrpKX-0004G9-Lq for 55493@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 19:13:30 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42640) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrpKS-0005EZ-Dl; Thu, 19 May 2022 19:13:12 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=INalRU1M+/Jxe/OubXzhh6dhVKwYRvYqtqR+Hb6iI24=; b=HzqD6zwgLdPZ YUQicZ99KIOqUKJkdHku8YppYhrO6AWNwSimFoj23THzNQupVjbLVLmJUvCwTY8mylBFz20vsPTWu YTZQO7QAR1FFZxoW9N922LcX/sTNrIKMDxlKiGj2jr569Nd25nCldqNVI6O7yQOkbvhThQNZfYRkL 2Ya16iVG9EC+uyJr2OhI+S0plwSPU/oGlDJ4qTMCZbMZ5zB8gk9nrJvu8URbm6d/87XCoYtAonYRv B+4JCcbD1S2D4uJ5L3pVmtjun/NsWT/7i/K66gzyZwbyQReOibU8fa+H7YAMjHi/MHfnMq4OS0H/K FHgu/RSA1cMkppby1TNxvQ==; Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrpKS-0004t0-3V; Thu, 19 May 2022 19:13:12 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <83czgbf29o.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Wed, 18 May 2022 15:34:11 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#55493: [PATCH] Rename Oriya to Odia References: <83czgbf29o.fsf@gnu.org> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 19:13:12 -0400 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55493 Cc: 55493@debbugs.gnu.org, lumarzeli30@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > (set-language-info-alist > > - "Oriya" '((charset unicode) > > - (coding-system utf-8) > > - (coding-priority utf-8) > > - (input-method . "oriya-itrans") > > - (sample-text . "Oriya (ଓଡ଼ିଆ) ନମସ୍କାର") > > - (documentation . "\ > > -Such languages using Oriya script as Oriya, Khonti, and Santali > > + "Odia" '((charset unicode) ;; formerly Oriya > > + (coding-system utf-8) > > + (coding-priority utf-8) > > + (input-method . "odia-itrans") > > + (sample-text . "Odia (ଓଡ଼ିଆ) ନମସ୍କାର") > > + (documentation . "\ > > +Such languages using Odia script as Odia, Khonti, and Santali > > are supported in this language environment.")) > > '("Indian")) What you said about input methods applies here too. We should add the "Odia" item and keep the "Oriya" item (though updating its doc string). -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 19 19:22:35 2022 Received: (at 55493) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2022 23:22:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36859 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrpTX-0004WF-Iv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 19:22:35 -0400 Received: from mail-qk1-f178.google.com ([209.85.222.178]:41641) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrpTV-0004W2-NW for 55493@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 19:22:34 -0400 Received: by mail-qk1-f178.google.com with SMTP id k8so5860466qki.8 for <55493@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 19 May 2022 16:22:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=2+laexBfHn6W6KnQIC4mZMkQm6ElgvND0h7Gvu8zR+Y=; b=VGdTCDFrSBDB0qFdVTuC47dWjxSq5DszUM+KTXZh/Viju82WbsHaYwoOmKeLBmNnbg iRW8wu8p8sR0DNuOkXJgaatbZztW+xNX6JAxyq5/arfwXJ3I2nzGmrrcOwCddQ9ybLVe wDwnWrCbvs9B5sQuU1QFXYBRUDVGLZmgGFDNcgnYGZ/SKVoOwBDSZ1ko1d1o6/AK+5Rq yolwov8T6ExbMzbmokpjR3P/JUcOMRDbGb0ID8RCpwVga8i6lBk6IJdXIBnDMSYORdJI /kIa5SWsy4+3hdDP31iMdv0yDJh/XnB0BhbBCKsI93JX8ky24UaJWxEb8FQxz4nA4yn5 Nrbw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2+laexBfHn6W6KnQIC4mZMkQm6ElgvND0h7Gvu8zR+Y=; b=Go9fMm2LRFxkMygdzBBs+zU0fwdlw8SC0AYRagX3MQ1mluhKHQL91mq/Sf/Pbq1gy4 BWRuyuLw1cWcaefE1vLT5IVCBrMy5ok8AUf7V7Fs0zrLIodW6d1Hyf+3q+ELDW93HRdF IkWL9MNZlggZXp2OE2zc9yBH4G42joeKPrC5nIv9c+xe1wXxCqcQckRpJiKnIatbtFD3 +4ir0o98lLcVP1bPBCWMShR5q9zUuzwDa5YWFGA1l1MhMT+y5ITgkQCy7wqQwa/7Iwdq t8iUN1ZP7v99ShZoJl5/7D4wHQLf5v1hjhHXZb1/pc+4yS4PAz8N+V5B8mFBqrutb7mU RAcA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5339QuMFugqa5weJjOmGu3D4H3HIdEERdFwgAWEsoazMH9a31NKF 0vcUJXVWgfDkQWFnOLExztwy8CPI/TcbynjBy2Z0vdef21091A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyi4qWmz2a05pk84PomXP78KScVwsUehHryshQHogLZVjG0vd35LB2kvM9RRDa14aJ7QSezdwAHGQKed3QMzYU= X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:2588:b0:680:f657:fbd6 with SMTP id x8-20020a05620a258800b00680f657fbd6mr4660306qko.287.1653002548056; Thu, 19 May 2022 16:22:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83czgbf29o.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?B?4KS44KSu4KWA4KSwIOCkuOCkv+CkguCkuSBTYW1lZXIgU2luZ2g=?= Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 04:51:35 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#55493: [PATCH] Rename Oriya to Odia To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b0976f05df65a5b0" X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55493 Cc: 55493@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) --000000000000b0976f05df65a5b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > What you said about input methods applies here too. We should add the > "Odia" item and keep the "Oriya" item (though updating its doc > string). > Hasn't Eli already done that? Check commit: 99be0cfcd92d7400d65fdbfd0142e1fc619e4f1f On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 4:43 AM Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > > (set-language-info-alist > > > - "Oriya" '((charset unicode) > > > - (coding-system utf-8) > > > - (coding-priority utf-8) > > > - (input-method . "oriya-itrans") > > > - (sample-text . "Oriya (=E0=AC=93=E0=AD=9C=E0=AC=BF= =E0=AC=86) =E0=AC=A8=E0=AC=AE=E0=AC=B8=E0=AD=8D=E0=AC=95=E0=AC=BE=E0= =AC=B0") > > > - (documentation . "\ > > > -Such languages using Oriya script as Oriya, Khonti, and Santali > > > + "Odia" '((charset unicode) ;; formerly Oriya > > > + (coding-system utf-8) > > > + (coding-priority utf-8) > > > + (input-method . "odia-itrans") > > > + (sample-text . "Odia (=E0=AC=93=E0=AD=9C=E0=AC=BF=E0=AC= =86) =E0=AC=A8=E0=AC=AE=E0=AC=B8=E0=AD=8D=E0=AC=95=E0=AC=BE=E0=AC=B0") > > > + (documentation . "\ > > > +Such languages using Odia script as Odia, Khonti, and Santali > > > are supported in this language environment.")) > > > '("Indian")) > > What you said about input methods applies here too. We should add the > "Odia" item and keep the "Oriya" item (though updating its doc > string). > > -- > Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) > Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) > Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) > Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) > > > --000000000000b0976f05df65a5b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What you= said about input methods applies here too.=C2=A0 We should add the
"Odia" item and keep the "Oriya" item (though updating = its doc
string).

Hasn't=C2=A0 Eli already d= one that? Check commit: 99be0cfcd92d7400d65fdbfd0142e1fc619e4f1f

On Fr= i, May 20, 2022 at 4:43 AM Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consi= der=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]<= br>
=C2=A0 > >=C2=A0 (set-language-info-alist
=C2=A0 > > - "Oriya" '((charset unicode)
=C2=A0 > > -=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(coding-system utf-8)
=C2=A0 > > -=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(coding-priority utf-8)
=C2=A0 > > -=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(input-method . "oriya-it= rans")
=C2=A0 > > -=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (sample-= text . "Oriya (=E0=AC=93=E0=AD=9C=E0=AC=BF=E0=AC=86)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0=E0=AC=A8=E0=AC=AE=E0=AC=B8=E0=AD=8D=E0=AC=95=E0=AC=BE=E0=AC=B0&q= uot;)
=C2=A0 > > -=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(documentation . "\
=C2=A0 > > -Such languages using Oriya script as Oriya, Khonti, and S= antali
=C2=A0 > > + "Odia" '((charset unicode) ;; formerly Ori= ya
=C2=A0 > > +=C2=A0 =C2=A0(coding-system utf-8)
=C2=A0 > > +=C2=A0 =C2=A0(coding-priority utf-8)
=C2=A0 > > +=C2=A0 =C2=A0(input-method . "odia-itrans")
=C2=A0 > > +=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (sample-text . "O= dia (=E0=AC=93=E0=AD=9C=E0=AC=BF=E0=AC=86)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E0=AC=A8=E0=AC=AE= =E0=AC=B8=E0=AD=8D=E0=AC=95=E0=AC=BE=E0=AC=B0")
=C2=A0 > > +=C2=A0 =C2=A0(documentation . "\
=C2=A0 > > +Such languages using Odia script as Odia, Khonti, and San= tali
=C2=A0 > >=C2=A0 are supported in this language environment."))<= br> =C2=A0 > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0'("Indian"))

What you said about input methods applies here too.=C2=A0 We should add the=
"Odia" item and keep the "Oriya" item (though updating = its doc
string).

--
Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
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--000000000000b0976f05df65a5b0-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 20 02:55:13 2022 Received: (at 55493) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 May 2022 06:55:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37358 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrwXZ-00075W-17 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2022 02:55:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:32992) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrwXX-00074x-NN for 55493@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2022 02:55:11 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49480) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrwXS-0000LH-Cd; Fri, 20 May 2022 02:55:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=EAtWe50JL2hQIEy4uyLXk0rKoLDMdirAp4+XDmwN4pE=; b=S/K9XbywIQ/KT9ZJQR9+ E0G/dm8+bB8E5uY2Iggo1QSNZXY9djdmMkgcU9L4hMMkPV96BPaE5JEfsE9uG4c8U6cVU2pCPMx0P YhHMoTceW6lOjHgI3rXiFSVKbdwf4C/adhSTZ1NcF7B5GbT2mT5JG7pkWSdvoNiAOp1OXZMSAhMtq 4BLp/9wbmzbqalh26e0LpMyDWCbmTOlNXDKjhL5kP11w+KOuvhOo21qarbLFDiBF5FD2L32oCZOyn Tj0W/VC8wBb8K9mMFBi5HL8EIq2dta2vlJMqLHu6ewsNRWSQSR6r3607fTiE/XIgQcePkf2/Le+HP kY8mqauXjR29jQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3972 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrwXK-0004cl-Dr; Fri, 20 May 2022 02:54:58 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 09:54:57 +0300 Message-Id: <83zgjcbsn2.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Stallman on Thu, 19 May 2022 19:13:12 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#55493: [PATCH] Rename Oriya to Odia References: <83czgbf29o.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55493 Cc: 55493@debbugs.gnu.org, lumarzeli30@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: lumarzeli30@gmail.com, 55493@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 19:13:12 -0400 > > > > (set-language-info-alist > > > - "Oriya" '((charset unicode) > > > - (coding-system utf-8) > > > - (coding-priority utf-8) > > > - (input-method . "oriya-itrans") > > > - (sample-text . "Oriya (ଓଡ଼ିଆ) ନମସ୍କାର") > > > - (documentation . "\ > > > -Such languages using Oriya script as Oriya, Khonti, and Santali > > > + "Odia" '((charset unicode) ;; formerly Oriya > > > + (coding-system utf-8) > > > + (coding-priority utf-8) > > > + (input-method . "odia-itrans") > > > + (sample-text . "Odia (ଓଡ଼ିଆ) ନମସ୍କାର") > > > + (documentation . "\ > > > +Such languages using Odia script as Odia, Khonti, and Santali > > > are supported in this language environment.")) > > > '("Indian")) > > What you said about input methods applies here too. We should add the > "Odia" item and keep the "Oriya" item (though updating its doc > string). In a later message I said I did exactly that. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat May 21 18:47:27 2022 Received: (at 55493) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 May 2022 22:47:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43123 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nsXsc-00088m-Qj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 May 2022 18:47:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49856) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nsXsX-00088I-On for 55493@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 May 2022 18:47:25 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58792) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nsXsS-0000DU-Ft; Sat, 21 May 2022 18:47:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=ApmRx+g56kd9dO4+uXt0ZkopPRoYwxCO1lMDM7c3dhw=; b=Lp993zVqI3re g+1GDjjZkiyUuZv78ety3d4hmZ8oOvK7WmVfkqU4Z+SAv9jV6LEq5MJbbx8ze5LsFoPAexgmp3z/T wfIiudZKjDP4C0ESq8/OOg71FCzJJsfj4//daV73FubslJcnZLjR82BmYQqcf2FC8ox6TSGYNMUxp lfygbe54PHn3u1f/vgLqKZc715+0shNXoCpkAsyvu+af+AWckXR6gZ0Ux38IuKe0wuXZ9bxKfc01j VRxVZQhOXWuS2Ij853o4Q69SMO2q8h0JZrGlsSOHwefY7iXcsRDwF8btjzM9es62VCqv+ZkNwUO9B xeLD4p8E1L1KtP0JdOudEQ==; Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nsXsR-0004bM-9F; Sat, 21 May 2022 18:47:15 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <83zgjcbsn2.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 20 May 2022 09:54:57 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#55493: [PATCH] Rename Oriya to Odia References: <83czgbf29o.fsf@gnu.org> <83zgjcbsn2.fsf@gnu.org> Message-Id: Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 18:47:15 -0400 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55493 Cc: 55493@debbugs.gnu.org, lumarzeli30@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > In a later message I said I did exactly that. 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