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I have added the modi script to Emacs this time.

I have also renamed Hindi to Devanagari in etc/HELLO, = since this script is also used by
languages other than Hindi, lik= e: Marathi and Nepali. If this change is not warranted you can
re= vert it.

Please review the patch.
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Resent-Date: Mon, 16 May 2022 07:02:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.165268447627625 (code B ref -1); Mon, 16 May 2022 07:02:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 May 2022 07:01:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51525 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nqUjE-0007BV-1c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2022 03:01:16 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:57186) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nqUjD-0007BL-6D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2022 03:01:15 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58988) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 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X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) समीर सिंह Sameer Singh writes: > I have also renamed Hindi to Devanagari in etc/HELLO, since this script is > also used by > languages other than Hindi, like: Marathi and Nepali. If this change is not > warranted you can > revert it. As a user of Hindi language and Devanagari script, I agree to this change. May be we can mark this for deprecation in 29 and remove in 30. From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 16 May 2022 11:35:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.16527008548278 (code B ref 55439); Mon, 16 May 2022 11:35:01 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 May 2022 11:34:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51903 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nqYzN-00029R-Q2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2022 07:34:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38040) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nqYzM-00029G-Ob for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2022 07:34:13 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:39562) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nqYzH-00078J-FS; Mon, 16 May 2022 07:34:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=h4vFliqpbHfayGbBmQ/l+ue+N882bXNzVXCx5wQnW2Q=; b=PP0lUqvvZDrVVkB1AS/t 8k2tylOJ5CgPCIxKSs/oiesiKeA/Kx05wHs18wbsW/xz8bX6PpFnqoYoZIoWBGCh81vOlZyAmc3LL 78eE+QfQQZVLCWWg1073ha069XnpJKwMLfX0LexjkmOONVXvbs0l8Zn6YyVjAKkNT/V9tWqQxSxny 1ttgNYwpwCZrpW4hjfK1p0S2BdyHdNKHqzcnLcbTLEnw2BAAotGZhVJnw9ZEyCH40wKV9jlK7LZ92 Ey7EorS8yLr0Ck42gaJ1SL8/UQ2gCxohD5W7Wo5+6LfR6b2prLpwa+jM2vkJDLjU2CRoDmHpq9jai iQBL02l8T7/P/w==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2175 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nqYzG-00086z-ME; Mon, 16 May 2022 07:34:07 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 May 2022 14:33:55 +0300 Message-Id: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (lumarzeli30@gmail.com) References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: समीर सिंह Sameer Singh > > Date: Mon, 16 May 2022 05:03:59 +0530 > > I have added the modi script to Emacs this time. Thanks. Can you tell how many more old scripts you intend to add? I'm thinking perhaps we should make a separate section for them in NEWS, instead of basically repeating the same text over and over and over again. > I have also renamed Hindi to Devanagari in etc/HELLO, since this > script is also used by languages other than Hindi, like: Marathi and > Nepali. I'm okay with the change, but please add the same sample-text to the Devanagari language environment in indian.el. > Please review the patch. > diff --git a/etc/HELLO b/etc/HELLO > index 16a38b59d3..04014e8dea 100644 > --- a/etc/HELLO > +++ b/etc/HELLO > @@ -38,6 +38,7 @@ Comanche /kəˈmæntʃiː/ Haa marʉ́awe > Cree (ᓀᐦᐃᔭᐍᐏᐣ) ᑕᓂᓯ / ᐙᒋᔮ > Czech (čeština) Dobrý den > Danish (dansk) Hej / Goddag / Halløj > +Devanagari (देवनागरी) नमस्ते / नमस्कार > Dutch (Nederlands) Hallo / Dag > Efik /ˈɛfɪk/ Mɔkɔm > Egyptian Hieroglyphs (𓂋𓏤𓈖𓆎𓅓‌𓏏𓊖) 𓅓𓊵𓏏𓊪, 𓇍𓇋𓂻𓍘𓇋 > @@ -55,7 +57,6 @@ Greek, ancient (ἑλληνική) Οὖλέ τε καὶ μέγα χαῖρε > Gujarati (ગુજરાતી) નમસ્તે > Hebrew (עִבְרִית) שָׁלוֹם > Hungarian (magyar) Szép jó napot! > -Hindi (हिंदी) नमस्ते / नमस्कार । The "Hindi" greeting had a character at its end, U+0964, which disappeared when you moved the line to Devanagari. Is that intentional? > +*** New language environment "Modi" Period missing at the end of this line. 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I'm > thinking perhaps we should make a separate section for them in NEWS, > instead of basically repeating the same text over and over and over > again I am planning to add about 31 more scripts. I'm okay with the change, but please add the same sample-text to the > Devanagari language environment in indian.el. > Done. I have also: 1. added sample texts to other scripts which didn't have them. 2. replaced the spaces with a tab in the sample texts which I had added= . 3. renamed Punjabi to Gurmukhi in its set-language-info-alist. In etc/HELLO I have: 1. added a Gurumukhi greeting. 2. replaced the Odia greeting, it was =E0=AC=B6=E0=AD=81=E0=AC=A3=E0=AC= =BF=E0=AC=AC=E0=AD=87 (tl. Listen) earlier, which I don't think is a greeting, therefore I have replaced it with =E0=AC=A8=E0=AC=AE=E0=AC=B8=E0=AD=8D=E0=AC=95=E0=AC=BE=E0=AC=B0 (namaskaar) The "Hindi" greeting had a character at its end, U+0964, which > disappeared when you moved the line to Devanagari. Is that > intentional? > Yes, that was intentional, it was a full stop. I didn't think that it was necessary, the other greetings also did not have it. Period missing at the end of this line. > Oops. Fixed it. The earlier news entry about Syloti Nagri did not have it too, so I have also added it there. On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 5:04 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82= =E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh > > > > Date: Mon, 16 May 2022 05:03:59 +0530 > > > > I have added the modi script to Emacs this time. > > Thanks. > > Can you tell how many more old scripts you intend to add? I'm > thinking perhaps we should make a separate section for them in NEWS, > instead of basically repeating the same text over and over and over > again. > > > I have also renamed Hindi to Devanagari in etc/HELLO, since this > > script is also used by languages other than Hindi, like: Marathi and > > Nepali. > > I'm okay with the change, but please add the same sample-text to the > Devanagari language environment in indian.el. > > > Please review the patch. > > diff --git a/etc/HELLO b/etc/HELLO > > index 16a38b59d3..04014e8dea 100644 > > --- a/etc/HELLO > > +++ b/etc/HELLO > > @@ -38,6 +38,7 @@ Comanche /k=C9=99=CB=88m=C3=A6nt=CA=83i=CB=90/ = Haa mar=CA=89=CC=81awe > > Cree (=E1=93=80=E1=90=A6=E1=90=83=E1=94=AD=E1=90=8D=E1=90=8F=E1=90=A3)= =E1=91=95=E1=93=82=E1=93=AF / =E1=90=99=E1=92=8B=E1=94=AE > > Czech (=C4=8De=C5=A1tina) Dobr=C3=BD den > > Danish (dansk) Hej / Goddag / Hall=C3=B8j > > +Devanagari (=E0=A4=A6=E0=A5=87=E0=A4=B5=E0=A4=A8=E0=A4=BE=E0=A4=97=E0= =A4=B0=E0=A5=80) =E0=A4=A8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A4=B8=E0=A5=8D=E0=A4=A4=E0=A5= =87 / =E0=A4=A8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A4=B8=E0=A5=8D=E0=A4=95=E0=A4=BE=E0=A4=B0 > > Dutch (Nederlands) Hallo / Dag > > Efik /=CB=88=C9=9Bf=C9=AAk/ M=C9=94k=C9=94m > > Egyptian Hieroglyphs (=F0=93=82=8B=F0=93=8F=A4=F0=93=88=96=F0=93=86=8E= =F0=93=85=93=E2=80=8C=F0=93=8F=8F=F0=93=8A=96) =F0=93=85=93=F0=93=8A= =B5=F0=93=8F=8F=F0=93=8A=AA, =F0=93=87=8D=F0=93=87=8B=F0=93=82=BB=F0=93=8D= =98=F0=93=87=8B > > @@ -55,7 +57,6 @@ Greek, ancient (=E1=BC=91=CE=BB=CE=BB=CE=B7=CE=BD=CE= =B9=CE=BA=CE=AE) =CE=9F=E1=BD=96=CE=BB=CE=AD =CF=84=CE=B5 =CE=BA=CE=B1=E1= =BD=B6 =CE=BC=CE=AD=CE=B3=CE=B1 =CF=87=CE=B1=E1=BF=96=CF=81=CE=B5 > > Gujarati (=E0=AA=97=E0=AB=81=E0=AA=9C=E0=AA=B0=E0=AA=BE=E0=AA=A4=E0=AB= =80) =E0=AA=A8=E0=AA=AE=E0=AA=B8=E0=AB=8D=E0=AA=A4=E0=AB=87 > > Hebrew (=D7=A2=D6=B4=D7=91=D6=B0=D7=A8=D6=B4=D7=99=D7=AA) =D7=A9=D6= =B8=D7=81=D7=9C=D7=95=D6=B9=D7=9D > > Hungarian (magyar) Sz=C3=A9p j=C3=B3 napot! > > -Hindi (=E0=A4=B9=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=A6=E0=A5=80) =E0=A4=A8= =E0=A4=AE=E0=A4=B8=E0=A5=8D=E0=A4=A4=E0=A5=87 / =E0=A4=A8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A4=B8= =E0=A5=8D=E0=A4=95=E0=A4=BE=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A5=A4 > > The "Hindi" greeting had a character at its end, U+0964, which > disappeared when you moved the line to Devanagari. Is that > intentional? > > > +*** New language environment "Modi" > > Period missing at the end of this line. > --00000000000085254a05df295a77 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Can you = tell how many more old scripts you intend to add?=C2=A0 I'm
thinking perhaps we should make a separate section for them in NEWS,
instead of basically repeating the same text over and over and over
again

I am planning to add about 31 more sc= ripts.

I'm okay with the change, but please add the same sample-te= xt to the
Devanagari language environment in indian.el.

Done.

I have also:
=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 1. added sample texts to other scripts which didn't have t= hem.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 2. replaced the spaces with a tab in the = sample texts which I had added.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 3. renamed Pun= jabi to Gurmukhi in its set-language-info-alist.

In etc/HELLO
I have:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 1. added= a Gurumukhi greeting.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 2. replaced the Odia gr= eeting, it was =E0=AC=B6=E0=AD=81=E0=AC=A3=E0=AC=BF=E0=AC=AC=E0=AD=87 (tl. = Listen) earlier, which I don't think is a greeting, therefore I have re= placed it with =E0=AC=A8=E0=AC=AE=E0=AC=B8=E0=AD=8D=E0=AC=95=E0=AC=BE=E0=AC= =B0 (namaskaar)

The "Hindi" greeting had a character at its end, = U+0964, which
disappeared when you moved the line to Devanagari.=C2=A0 Is that
intentional?

Yes, that was intentiona= l, it was a full stop. I didn't think that it was necessary, the other = greetings also did not have it.

Period missing at the end of this line.

Oops. Fixed it.=C2=A0 The earlier news entry about Syloti Nagri did not = have it too, so I have also added it there.

On Mon, May 16, 2022= at 5:04 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org<= /a>> wrote:
&= gt; From: =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82= =E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh
>=C2=A0 <l= umarzeli30@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 16 May 2022 05:03:59 +0530
>
> I have added the modi script to Emacs this time.

Thanks.

Can you tell how many more old scripts you intend to add?=C2=A0 I'm
thinking perhaps we should make a separate section for them in NEWS,
instead of basically repeating the same text over and over and over
again.

> I have also renamed Hindi to Devanagari in etc/HELLO, since this
> script is also used by languages other than Hindi, like: Marathi and > Nepali.

I'm okay with the change, but please add the same sample-text to the Devanagari language environment in indian.el.

> Please review the patch.
> diff --git a/etc/HELLO b/etc/HELLO
> index 16a38b59d3..04014e8dea 100644
> --- a/etc/HELLO
> +++ b/etc/HELLO
> @@ -38,6 +38,7 @@ Comanche /k=C9=99=CB=88m=C3=A6nt=CA=83i=CB=90/=C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Haa mar=CA=89=CC=81awe
>=C2=A0 Cree (=E1=93=80=E1=90=A6=E1=90=83=E1=94=AD=E1=90=8D=E1=90=8F=E1= =90=A3)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=E1=91=95=E1=93=82=E1=93=AF / =E1=90=99= =E1=92=8B=E1=94=AE
>=C2=A0 Czech (=C4=8De=C5=A1tina)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Dobr=C3=BD den
>=C2=A0 Danish (dansk)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hej / Goddag / Hall=C3= =B8j
> +Devanagari (=E0=A4=A6=E0=A5=87=E0=A4=B5=E0=A4=A8=E0=A4=BE=E0=A4=97=E0= =A4=B0=E0=A5=80)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E0=A4=A8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A4=B8=E0= =A5=8D=E0=A4=A4=E0=A5=87 / =E0=A4=A8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A4=B8=E0=A5=8D=E0=A4=95=E0= =A4=BE=E0=A4=B0
>=C2=A0 Dutch (Nederlands)=C2=A0 =C2=A0Hallo / Dag
>=C2=A0 Efik=C2=A0 /=CB=88=C9=9Bf=C9=AAk/=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 M= =C9=94k=C9=94m
>=C2=A0 Egyptian Hieroglyphs (=F0=93=82=8B=F0=93=8F=A4=F0=93=88=96=F0=93= =86=8E=F0=93=85=93=E2=80=8C=F0=93=8F=8F=F0=93=8A=96)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0=F0=93=85=93=F0=93=8A=B5=F0=93=8F=8F=F0=93=8A=AA, =F0=93=87=8D=F0=93= =87=8B=F0=93=82=BB=F0=93=8D=98=F0=93=87=8B
> @@ -55,7 +57,6 @@ Greek, ancient (=E1=BC=91=CE=BB=CE=BB=CE=B7=CE=BD=CE= =B9=CE=BA=CE=AE)=C2=A0 =C2=A0=CE=9F=E1=BD=96=CE=BB=CE=AD =CF=84=CE=B5 =CE= =BA=CE=B1=E1=BD=B6 =CE=BC=CE=AD=CE=B3=CE=B1 =CF=87=CE=B1=E1=BF=96=CF=81=CE= =B5
>=C2=A0 Gujarati (=E0=AA=97=E0=AB=81=E0=AA=9C=E0=AA=B0=E0=AA=BE=E0=AA=A4= =E0=AB=80)=C2=A0 =C2=A0=E0=AA=A8=E0=AA=AE=E0=AA=B8=E0=AB=8D=E0=AA=A4=E0=AB= =87
>=C2=A0 Hebrew (=D7=A2=D6=B4=D7=91=D6=B0=D7=A8=D6=B4=D7=99=D7=AA)=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =D7=A9=D6=B8=D7=81=D7=9C=D7=95=D6=B9=D7=9D
>=C2=A0 Hungarian (magyar)=C2=A0 =C2=A0Sz=C3=A9p j=C3=B3 napot!
> -Hindi (=E0=A4=B9=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=A6=E0=A5=80)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E0=A4=A8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A4=B8=E0=A5=8D=E0=A4=A4=E0=A5=87 / =E0= =A4=A8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A4=B8=E0=A5=8D=E0=A4=95=E0=A4=BE=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A5=A4

The "Hindi" greeting had a character at its end, U+0964, which disappeared when you moved the line to Devanagari.=C2=A0 Is that
intentional?

> +*** New language environment "Modi"

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2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) --000000000000a5044305df322e97 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > While we are it, should we change all instances of "Oriya" in Emacs to > "Odiya"? > Yes I was also thinking about it. Oriya was officially renamed to Odia back in 2011. What do you say Eli? Also, I can ask an Odiya speaker for a greeting if you want. > Namaskaar is a standard greeting among most Indian Languages, but sure, you can confirm it. On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 3:19 PM Visuwesh wrote: > [=E0=AE=9A=E0=AF=86=E0=AE=B5=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=B5=E0=AE=BE=E0=AE=AF=E0=AF=8D= =E0=AE=AE=E0=AF=87 17, 2022] =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4= =B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh wrote: > > > [...] > > In etc/HELLO > > I have: > > 1. added a Gurumukhi greeting. > > 2. replaced the Odia greeting, it was =E0=AC=B6=E0=AD=81=E0=AC=A3= =E0=AC=BF=E0=AC=AC=E0=AD=87 (tl. Listen) earlier, > which I don't think is a greeting, therefore I have replaced it > > with =E0=AC=A8=E0=AC=AE=E0=AC=B8=E0=AD=8D=E0=AC=95=E0=AC=BE=E0=AC=B0 (n= amaskaar) > > > While we are it, should we change all instances of "Oriya" in Emacs to > "Odiya"? Also, I can ask an Odiya speaker for a greeting if you want. > --000000000000a5044305df322e97 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
While we= are it, should we change all instances of "Oriya" in Emacs to "Odiya"?

Yes I was also think= ing about it. Oriya was officially renamed to Odia back in 2011.
= What do you say Eli?

Also, I can ask an Odiya speaker for a greeting if= you want.

Namaskaar is a standard gr= eeting among most Indian Languages, but sure, you can confirm it.
=C2=A0

On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 3:19 PM Visuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com> wrote:
[=E0=AE=9A=E0=AF=86=E0= =AE=B5=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=B5=E0=AE=BE=E0=AE=AF=E0=AF=8D =E0=AE=AE=E0=AF=87 17, = 2022] =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0= =A4=B9 Sameer Singh wrote:

> [...]
> In etc/HELLO
> I have:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01. added a Gurumukhi greeting.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02. replaced the Odia greeting, it was =E0=AC=B6=E0= =AD=81=E0=AC=A3=E0=AC=BF=E0=AC=AC=E0=AD=87 (tl. Listen) earlier, which I do= n't think is a greeting, therefore I have replaced it
> with =E0=AC=A8=E0=AC=AE=E0=AC=B8=E0=AD=8D=E0=AC=95=E0=AC=BE=E0=AC=B0 (= namaskaar)
>
While we are it, should we change all instances of "Oriya" in Ema= cs to
"Odiya"?=C2=A0 Also, I can ask an Odiya speaker for a greeting if= you want.
--000000000000a5044305df322e97-- From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 12:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Visuwesh Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, lumarzeli30@gmail.com Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.1652789419596 (code B ref 55439); Tue, 17 May 2022 12:11:02 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2022 12:10:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55988 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nqw1q-00009Y-Sv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 08:10:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55508) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nqw1p-00009K-9A for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 08:10:17 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:57566) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nqw1k-0007tY-0n; Tue, 17 May 2022 08:10:12 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=YcERP7F17ah5ehq8v+dS+w5u8zIVXzWxex5e9t7cphA=; b=ET6XdGQdwWn6 2ZlIUHRDOBc/Z7nMMYdPYZJYcvRzBPiqxYC50dIdREODqibg5rEM5fZ+F5rkfUktXZLeXXfG7FqPV F4qbN9/0b/Eh/N/WE5rmaHP4uU+KgC5E0xIlixpywZIwi7YVWrAht+RMieCMXRJq2C52czSUPAwob kUL/1e/i9X/eXwkoFNGhEGeqrAIr9YSJ51mCqRwLOI5R03trji09o/5+ZIE2qhiIMFwtEcsNnfErB 9FRxh+meLTD72x4SGSgby2jmfY4UBzfFBraqeCF+d9cZnhwoqKs8Ug7K/qJCnx28LNeqDoT9aPadc b+WCqZRlAYcl0tVzJqqTZw==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4933 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nqw1i-0002jb-VP; Tue, 17 May 2022 08:10:11 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 15:10:02 +0300 Message-Id: <83zgjggy1x.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Visuwesh on Tue, 17 May 2022 15:19:09 +0530) References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Visuwesh > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 55439@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 15:19:09 +0530 > > While we are it, should we change all instances of "Oriya" in Emacs to > "Odiya"? Odia is both a script and a language. What exactly do you want to rename, and where in Emacs? > Also, I can ask an Odiya speaker for a greeting if you want. Sure. But isn't what we have now a greeting? From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 12:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, visuweshm@gmail.com Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.1652789529792 (code B ref 55439); Tue, 17 May 2022 12:13:01 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2022 12:12:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55993 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nqw3d-0000Ch-9O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 08:12:09 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55802) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nqw3b-0000CT-N3 for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 08:12:07 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:57774) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nqw3W-0008PA-GK; Tue, 17 May 2022 08:12:02 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=3HPEjtIexfW2v5AR4H9lSoBq0W/z3FCvEOhS8nIUL78=; b=CjKHAUwu62KgIVuGB/Yi iO2SM0SbUr5c1C/pzXIcNDXCty/Vn0IHgkMuHZKjqVMowBFIGHMs+LNoMpivdOKRd/n0xk5/gHfbU x+wzMOoz1NTt2wrFW6CHwEnpEhYQSLhaGDgnD2h5Agpx9XKSVD1DjiYUHnoJ525ly9zWObxXMn2Gq BoEUKQ+1kI+umDv8RWduXUty+Q8DMFlJ0quGiF6kSUMNOx81APn6RdsLKuwPERgnneWcrOlJj2iG8 jjtpuT0sinrTowDzTWw5Ejdp3UKFz9kSMtWJaP//c5iRd8yPN8EqGuyniFEMq0IHkUe/neLxVRpej q90oUpBMxTl67Q==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1080 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nqw3V-000306-Tu; Tue, 17 May 2022 08:12:02 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 15:11:53 +0300 Message-Id: <83wnekgxyu.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh on Tue, 17 May 2022 15:27:40 +0530) References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: समीर सिंह Sameer Singh > Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 15:27:40 +0530 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 55439@debbugs.gnu.org > > While we are it, should we change all instances of "Oriya" in Emacs to > "Odiya"? > > Yes I was also thinking about it. Oriya was officially renamed to Odia back in 2011. > What do you say Eli? Where can I see that official renaming announcement? From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Subject: bug#55439: closed (Re: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script) Message-ID: References: <83lev0gum8.fsf@gnu.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 55439 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs X-Gnu-PR-Keywords: patch Reply-To: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 13:25:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1652793902-8661-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1652793902-8661-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 55439@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 55439: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D55439 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1652793902-8661-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 55439-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2022 13:24:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56083 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nqxBf-0002Eg-TL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 09:24:32 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43820) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nqxBd-0002EU-Ks for 55439-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 09:24:29 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59002) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nqxBY-0003zX-CL; Tue, 17 May 2022 09:24:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=yBekI+V7Gz/IfkOgTThmOptbyG0aDBPa4/GH3IAOXbk=; b=H3WDXrDh3uAxzLYds80F 4VjMf/kFPex947fqR/d26UbvU0CByU2oo+wZL/UqbZam0zr21gvmj2rsfNq8vukU67nrSOT4fBknu rOGVKfPW1/z5EidUUQpQHBPA3ie/pVhZ8ZTYiPtX7SQtheKmR2LWYkr4ruWueKvSH47GxeYt/OE+f WljFMah5dS2yhtLlN083irl+S8xHFZ4bpNSvRxq00yL+kmtzb5/gAFXGQI8y8CwJc+5tlpwuyr6Za QEhCQM4RS7ZCg2wgMAhc7pkOaMJqIewRm1DkZ48W/CyStIZECnBzBz5S0xarryZH8q2jZt6tIrjLm eOuPEVVLSjif5w==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1574 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nqxBX-00027F-SJ; Tue, 17 May 2022 09:24:24 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 16:24:15 +0300 Message-Id: <83lev0gum8.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: =?utf-8?B?4KS44KSu4KWA4KSwIOCkuOCkv+CkguCkuSBTYW1lZXIgU2luZ2g=?= In-Reply-To: (message from =?utf-8?B?4KS44KSu4KWA4KSwIOCkuOCkv+CkguCkuQ==?= Sameer Singh on Tue, 17 May 2022 04:55:42 +0530) Subject: Re: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 55439-done Cc: 55439-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: समीर सिंह Sameer Singh > Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 04:55:42 +0530 > Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org > > Can you tell how many more old scripts you intend to add? I'm > thinking perhaps we should make a separate section for them in NEWS, > instead of basically repeating the same text over and over and over > again > > I am planning to add about 31 more scripts. Thanks, I therefore rewrote the NEWS entries for the scripts we already installed to make them more concise. Please follow this template for the future additions. > I'm okay with the change, but please add the same sample-text to the > Devanagari language environment in indian.el. > > Done. > > I have also: > 1. added sample texts to other scripts which didn't have them. > 2. replaced the spaces with a tab in the sample texts which I had added. > 3. renamed Punjabi to Gurmukhi in its set-language-info-alist. > > In etc/HELLO > I have: > 1. added a Gurumukhi greeting. > 2. replaced the Odia greeting, it was ଶୁଣିବେ (tl. Listen) earlier, which I don't think is a greeting, therefore I > have replaced it with ନମସ୍କାର (namaskaar) > > The "Hindi" greeting had a character at its end, U+0964, which > disappeared when you moved the line to Devanagari. Is that > intentional? > > Yes, that was intentional, it was a full stop. I didn't think that it was necessary, the other greetings also did not > have it. > > Period missing at the end of this line. > > Oops. Fixed it. The earlier news entry about Syloti Nagri did not have it too, so I have also added it there. 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I have also renamed Hindi to Devanagari in etc/HELLO, since this script is also used by languages other than Hindi, like: Marathi and Nepali. If this change is not warranted you can revert it. Please review the patch. --0000000000001b026705df155a29 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have added the modi script to Emacs this time.

I have also renamed Hindi to Devanagari in etc/HELLO, = since this script is also used by
languages other than Hindi, lik= e: Marathi and Nepali. If this change is not warranted you can
re= vert it.

Please review the patch.
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2022 06:43:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Visuwesh References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> <83wnekgxyu.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 19:12:58 +0530 In-Reply-To: <83wnekgxyu.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 17 May 2022 15:11:53 +0300") Message-ID: <87k0akff6l.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) [=E0=AE=9A=E0=AF=86=E0=AE=B5=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=B5=E0=AE=BE=E0=AE=AF=E0=AF=8D = =E0=AE=AE=E0=AF=87 17, 2022] Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82= =E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh >> Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 15:27:40 +0530 >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 55439@debbugs.gnu.org >>=20 >> While we are it, should we change all instances of "Oriya" in Emacs to >> "Odiya"? >>=20 >> Yes I was also thinking about it. Oriya was officially renamed to Odia b= ack in 2011. >> What do you say Eli? > > Where can I see that official renaming announcement? I don't know where to find the official renaming announcement but I can send you a newspaper article on the name change and the official site of the Odisha government (the Indian state where Odia is spoken predominantly). https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Orissas-new-name-is-Odisha/articl= eshow/7780712.cms Odisha govt page: https://odisha.gov.in/ [ FWIW, Odia is the actual pronunciation of the language, Oriya is the anglicised one (Tamil is also a pretty awful anglicisation of the actual language name). ] From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Visuwesh Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 13:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.165279530119637 (code B ref 55439); Tue, 17 May 2022 13:49:01 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2022 13:48:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56128 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nqxYf-00056O-5R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 09:48:21 -0400 Received: from mail-pj1-f67.google.com ([209.85.216.67]:39854) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nqxYc-00055j-PG for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 09:48:15 -0400 Received: by mail-pj1-f67.google.com with SMTP id t11-20020a17090a6a0b00b001df6f318a8bso2481105pjj.4 for <55439@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 17 May 2022 06:48:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=33S/TimpUiKWkSQpvYNE5RIptbkODf+WBE47FxLGoQk=; b=j5qcRJ5GqDNxEYi/LoA4jVZQnW3zKasnuR+w/jtkZfLyv7p7FGdSkbblEtXaMkWvzL lvQYLATsC16fhM41xmrZ5a9Nkbmz/4dsbc9BHbvlusplZdk9zZ4AwrVAj5jnap8bkI0R IFAAqYWTlFaYc2beXvymDSrBX2rB5l5lKPtnOxKYt2mGsK5SXU0btcstHSZmBI4bAhIM IbjrBxT+uCFuBKDy7GOasBQe3AeQB8P0SfJ1eHrv0HKd4wNUIQ+BNrTo6fvYwx6jB7j1 k0sLfBFcuDD7iKaI9InrLim7fnKmRLw8mM94i+PRLrXAXJwD6vCDqQsnNgD44LgEPQZd S3+Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=33S/TimpUiKWkSQpvYNE5RIptbkODf+WBE47FxLGoQk=; b=LJ7EWpbYK3ZejdQwSNpG8/8G3sdNuIzGIls0MpsDXzXOSXXnWgBs8h0S3Ao9OumIDl ruIbboD552b2zog3bOJWAdgNiccO/asmf9G+4o4t7BU4/FH4YDDY6f9qa6X6ax+MWNei lVcqPDJT0bc0NaE8nH2PgqAezpYZT1wCz5K6ki0suvxcDgb3zE9xWcolCH1dKh1mQfj4 cLPnsJLZSVEwoxlus4EgsIQN1dzfojbd78qGizFGwstj4y/jkd1iHL/9hn92B8l88/Fb INTNIRQUerJ22oO02bUL0s71sFJRSwgGdNE6mVZoKkHY4QsT2iEwXJXgVKAMHTrHMTrS cmGw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533dfaJ4P+164Ugdb83D0mBlYFMkoajXslRNaJUevIUw7QiJJJmX ucAg6IalQw94fXq+vRdPCZA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyCykL/IZVZ6AAyr1dnXabX8sv9ZrZSqdTrM/yVhNYdETlLDE6xavQuADovwPx2Yz71lSSuKg== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:9a8b:b0:1df:6b7a:8a40 with SMTP id e11-20020a17090a9a8b00b001df6b7a8a40mr8392273pjp.213.1652795289102; Tue, 17 May 2022 06:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([49.205.81.115]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j15-20020a170903024f00b0015eee3ab203sm9325907plh.49.2022.05.17.06.48.08 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 17 May 2022 06:48:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Visuwesh References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> <83wnekgxyu.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0akff6l.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 19:18:06 +0530 In-Reply-To: <87k0akff6l.fsf@gmail.com> (Visuwesh's message of "Tue, 17 May 2022 19:12:58 +0530") Message-ID: <87fsl8fey1.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) [=E0=AE=9A=E0=AF=86=E0=AE=B5=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=B5=E0=AE=BE=E0=AE=AF=E0=AF=8D = =E0=AE=AE=E0=AF=87 17, 2022] Visuwesh wrote: > [=E0=AE=9A=E0=AF=86=E0=AE=B5=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=B5=E0=AE=BE=E0=AE=AF=E0=AF=8D= =E0=AE=AE=E0=AF=87 17, 2022] Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >>> From: =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82= =E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh >>> Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 15:27:40 +0530 >>> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 55439@debbugs.gnu.org >>>=20 >>> While we are it, should we change all instances of "Oriya" in Emacs to >>> "Odiya"? >>>=20 >>> Yes I was also thinking about it. Oriya was officially renamed to Odia = back in 2011. >>> What do you say Eli? >> >> Where can I see that official renaming announcement? > > I don't know where to find the official renaming announcement but I can > send you a newspaper article on the name change and the official site of > the Odisha government (the Indian state where Odia is spoken > predominantly). > > https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Orissas-new-name-is-Odisha/arti= cleshow/7780712.cms > > Odisha govt page: https://odisha.gov.in/ > > [ FWIW, Odia is the actual pronunciation of the language, Oriya is the > anglicised one (Tamil is also a pretty awful anglicisation of the actual > language name). ] Here's the wikipedia change on the name change: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Orissa_(Alteration_of_Name)_Act,_2011 I can't seem to open the PDF linked there but I found this https://prsindia.org/files/bills_acts/bills_parliament/2010/The_Orissa_Alte= ration_of_Name_Bill_2010.pdf From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Visuwesh Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 14:11:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, lumarzeli30@gmail.com Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.165279663023325 (code B ref 55439); 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Tue, 17 May 2022 07:10:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Visuwesh References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> <83zgjggy1x.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 19:40:00 +0530 In-Reply-To: <83zgjggy1x.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 17 May 2022 15:10:02 +0300") Message-ID: <87bkvwfdxj.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) [=E0=AE=9A=E0=AF=86=E0=AE=B5=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=B5=E0=AE=BE=E0=AE=AF=E0=AF=8D = =E0=AE=AE=E0=AF=87 17, 2022] Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Visuwesh >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 55439@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 15:19:09 +0530 >>=20 >> While we are it, should we change all instances of "Oriya" in Emacs to >> "Odiya"? > > Odia is both a script and a language. Yes, that is the case. > What exactly do you want to rename, and where in Emacs? The Emacs manual (`(emacs) Language Environments'), the language environment, the input methods. (Those are the instances t hat I know of, there may be more.) >> Also, I can ask an Odiya speaker for a greeting if you want. > > Sure. But isn't what we have now a greeting? I can't read Odia. But Sameer says that what we have now is not a greeting. Regardless, I will also ask if we what have right now is a greeting or not. Sameer, looks like "Namaskar" works fine. This is what he sent me: "Namaskar, kemiti achhaw?" ("Namaste, how are you?" tl.) From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Visuwesh Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 14:15:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, lumarzeli30@gmail.com Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.165279685923686 (code B ref 55439); Tue, 17 May 2022 14:15:01 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2022 14:14:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57530 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nqxxr-00069y-8L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 10:14:19 -0400 Received: from mail-pj1-f68.google.com ([209.85.216.68]:40923) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nqxxp-00069l-Vf for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 10:14:18 -0400 Received: by mail-pj1-f68.google.com with SMTP id nr2-20020a17090b240200b001df2b1bfc40so2563011pjb.5 for <55439@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 17 May 2022 07:14:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kbygO5HOCJ4muHOs890TZCIbROhXE9N/3xQPBJlQF1c=; b=cII2bacTR9QAzFAgWdVndJovXrxNEwHWBAjZDHxRvAYOoqDaJqUWuUP9G26XUjk/gE J1fOFDDJkmqPUOQhfFEbatosWX/2oE4u5cB+zwDnO1uxHq/Ry4L05n7LpdvUX/zAPYgJ d9c5H5fwEuRIz/kt5VdyBn6zVwK8d0lVA37hWowxWPcXXzCeFnrcc3jsFEzwEJf+XZnX Gal1Nq4zki1yLNWoRic3G0UBl2qRWTZFzvJtt4hB/W/DwmipNX1uhefGKISVA3eygqvh CF4HaSEHnwR+a+AD5RvY29YtIOt536+Siks1+JttOixCmrgvS0Rlrcv/EsIYbNH1glRf EUnQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kbygO5HOCJ4muHOs890TZCIbROhXE9N/3xQPBJlQF1c=; b=y+g/Dqqm3l92YGy55lOZD/UVqzr+oqaxJyZw+HSrpF78BMXihIIK32AjDRHkGo4h4w bnlt7XeHstzuR9Lz36KMjCWu6MVk9MW5DR4Rt605QMZyBvXNgkS13uN7ni7fYbbjQKcr EGwb/Ow+ARUF9fCQzrGni8ofM1M7vlxGdsl6iXJ4KjuvOhM08B0Fr5vHXAkaige7VkQt ya1xSn8N19J+QpZCX4TuhAN2FSxkrnbRqWdxIsadYmukbFpiEn+HO/B+uzCinmqP/R/+ 2dybvQwGe9Odww2qzw+a3nG9PX+tKJLz9/X96bjio0mTZoIBlmPj9nBHVlMmKeq0DBxp 6T4w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531pX8790I15YXR/8S3J/Tx1WtCUGEWmGWF4L0SO4pFmLPD3OPUi SZvCa/uLCuy6Ut11FF8dow+e19mZfV0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwQ95HME01C+ZqXTvKtmr7VQeH8cxUgXax5JMxyARc9+AlAziO2jp7WnNc+7jD5W8B+QgL+Ng== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:4c91:b0:1dc:57bc:4caa with SMTP id my17-20020a17090b4c9100b001dc57bc4caamr36439491pjb.10.1652796852260; Tue, 17 May 2022 07:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([49.205.81.115]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b5-20020a170902e94500b0015e8d4eb2cfsm9057086pll.281.2022.05.17.07.14.09 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 17 May 2022 07:14:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Visuwesh References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> <83zgjggy1x.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 19:44:08 +0530 In-Reply-To: <83zgjggy1x.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 17 May 2022 15:10:02 +0300") Message-ID: <874k1ofdqn.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) [=E0=AE=9A=E0=AF=86=E0=AE=B5=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=B5=E0=AE=BE=E0=AE=AF=E0=AF=8D = =E0=AE=AE=E0=AF=87 17, 2022] Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Visuwesh >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 55439@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 15:19:09 +0530 >>=20 >> While we are it, should we change all instances of "Oriya" in Emacs to >> "Odiya"? > > Odia is both a script and a language. What exactly do you want to > rename, and where in Emacs? > >> Also, I can ask an Odiya speaker for a greeting if you want. > > Sure. But isn't what we have now a greeting? It isn't. Apparently it translates to "hey listen please." From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 16:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Visuwesh Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, lumarzeli30@gmail.com Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.16528034743319 (code B ref 55439); Tue, 17 May 2022 16:05:02 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2022 16:04:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57713 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nqzgU-0000rP-6v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 12:04:34 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59074) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nqzgS-0000rB-LP for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 12:04:29 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34908) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nqzgN-0007Zn-A7; Tue, 17 May 2022 12:04:23 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=7hKBxErVlxa33p1fVVCQFu1ZCm/cFLLflD1Yc2g2bhw=; b=PodvMyNH8fPvia9Rs0uf ePdT1TEbuhhNVbT7wZG0MgqagOQhX7cl7Vcwxm1xNpiF88Zsr+Z86Ht27BO/YWS038PXQrzbtEbBZ 4dWpXk463SoX+NCJ4SCZRQV/q3qdv3LBNgtlIKV1xRGj7vL+ZcUoZHcQkmQD5979+iRC81GKbqQ+Y 0U1uzXGd6jI6ayStreFB4MVwK+nPAIwwPOk4wsSp3baNgHlI+7hDwabAYxtycgv6FID9nJIsLihqw jsuh6W2z94HWs/HtrFHAxNHgk3ZD8MU6rl119wTK4T1yinU0/J83JGKJIPxPpIBgaP+x04XreU2mW juN/bJAnqbJXpw==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3636 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nqzgM-0007MM-If; Tue, 17 May 2022 12:04:23 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 19:04:14 +0300 Message-Id: <837d6kgn7l.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87fsl8fey1.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Visuwesh on Tue, 17 May 2022 19:18:06 +0530) References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> <83wnekgxyu.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0akff6l.fsf@gmail.com> <87fsl8fey1.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Visuwesh > Cc: समीर सिंह Sameer Singh > , 55439@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 19:18:06 +0530 > > >> Where can I see that official renaming announcement? > > > > I don't know where to find the official renaming announcement but I can > > send you a newspaper article on the name change and the official site of > > the Odisha government (the Indian state where Odia is spoken > > predominantly). > > > > https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Orissas-new-name-is-Odisha/articleshow/7780712.cms > > > > Odisha govt page: https://odisha.gov.in/ > > > > [ FWIW, Odia is the actual pronunciation of the language, Oriya is the > > anglicised one (Tamil is also a pretty awful anglicisation of the actual > > language name). ] > > Here's the wikipedia change on the name change: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Orissa_(Alteration_of_Name)_Act,_2011 > > I can't seem to open the PDF linked there but I found this > https://prsindia.org/files/bills_acts/bills_parliament/2010/The_Orissa_Alteration_of_Name_Bill_2010.pdf Thanks. From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 16:07:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Visuwesh Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, lumarzeli30@gmail.com Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.16528035663500 (code B ref 55439); Tue, 17 May 2022 16:07:02 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2022 16:06:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57718 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nqzi2-0000uO-Et for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 12:06:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59400) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nqzi1-0000ts-AY for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 12:06:05 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34932) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nqzhv-00082r-Ti; Tue, 17 May 2022 12:06:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=CdPKqT9ycrJm+9fH7pyXAS0Uy62vRiLQmNf/dJ2i5fA=; b=L9Wgep9qZd93KVMYE/4a VUWpuwg/eu5aDywuCpifVqLd9j4uvcx5QH47e7g1KZXU7ASv2+cvvxQz8frbtD1kRhsdFir9AnqWb GFidyNXWF+hu/UjaMLhwMlxU9jJlaWyE0sX674s+N5SymyC1k8mezP6p/2875ysMJi9KjC8i7ZlNI QcrvWoRqjnWfRblruUrw9cnvW4OuRVn4nSFd95eswCHws5fioSYaUm1fQ1Uz1eGE6i3gy7jSvvxzq 7WAW6ow4nsLQiYt9QV/Wm3eQVApj4970KlGYbU7YdniuZHxKi6FQ9UBU8XC7RhQN5wSNeLF814/86 NIsWyPQX7DDi8Q==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3730 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nqzhr-0002MM-1p; Tue, 17 May 2022 12:05:58 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 19:05:47 +0300 Message-Id: <835ym4gn50.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87k0akff6l.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Visuwesh on Tue, 17 May 2022 19:12:58 +0530) References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> <83wnekgxyu.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0akff6l.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Visuwesh > Cc: समीर सिंह Sameer Singh > , 55439@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 19:12:58 +0530 > > [ FWIW, Odia is the actual pronunciation of the language, Oriya is the > anglicised one (Tamil is also a pretty awful anglicisation of the actual > language name). ] Oriya is also the name of the corresponding Unicode block, and AFAIU it will never change (due to the Unicode's stability policies). I think we should say something like "formerly Oriya" in some place where we document this script. From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 16:07:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Visuwesh Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, lumarzeli30@gmail.com Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.16528036083561 (code B ref 55439); Tue, 17 May 2022 16:07:02 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2022 16:06:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57722 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nqzii-0000vN-Mf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 12:06:48 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59554) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nqzih-0000vA-Sz for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 12:06:48 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34946) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nqzib-00087T-NZ; Tue, 17 May 2022 12:06:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=xXj4JVfhEAiChMF4Keds5h8zIQg43NUfhSfD74nBoU0=; b=bSO/XYDGbKrU r6A31hI9U9iMuYYVuf9Le9n3o7ATjWA9hDltHlwZptTx2Ma0TOACpb53zZNby/5sPliM7Y3JKYatz mq6VWSGMMrRbdyNVzhgL9npJh9vrDCiWpllL0dNvQc6wKM2Dc/Bb+cDEwOs/smiWqVdV+abgLlxvi AiOBDmnpR6xpZEvzuON4oJ+3ljL5r7ZNG4PIVBVMBu2u3Zde6GJyA5zJho1DtitRxQgG+NK+eTjtG Nk6Es9mAiUpO9smgqjicFFX5+ScBJT2+EXMzj+wzrrMio666do8XBsyT2kDrw3wLTozokfnRMWCaw /p/5ix84jBVEXEEz3VfLRw==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3777 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nqzib-0002Ps-7e; Tue, 17 May 2022 12:06:41 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 19:06:33 +0300 Message-Id: <834k1ogn3q.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87bkvwfdxj.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Visuwesh on Tue, 17 May 2022 19:40:00 +0530) References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> <83zgjggy1x.fsf@gnu.org> <87bkvwfdxj.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Visuwesh > Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, lumarzeli30@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 19:40:00 +0530 > > > What exactly do you want to rename, and where in Emacs? > > The Emacs manual (`(emacs) Language Environments'), the language > environment, the input methods. (Those are the instances t hat I know > of, there may be more.) Please propose a patch, and TIA. From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 22:58:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Pankaj Jangid Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.165282823732355 (code B ref 55439); Tue, 17 May 2022 22:58:01 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2022 22:57:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58314 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nr67w-0008Pn-VF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 18:57:17 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58320) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nr67w-0008Pa-4Z for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 18:57:16 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:44748) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nr67q-0003tt-Nr; Tue, 17 May 2022 18:57:10 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=R6z1igzcQRxt/1Swi2nXI9I8C683W9YGTx+k8powJVs=; b=VnNud9dBi4DX fY2RwKMNWbrbgIFC3BqXFRBIKwCtGYP4O7IAgSrfXv94H1umlcMfbhZUk/xzeixhxPSZ0wCT/EBr7 vOedbKRcmCXKD2aj5YY2szbbJAfWV6MqrE0R0JtWhNX0+NnW1XONaiMOaJbshjvT47HUJnuOXFzpv RFnqQAjluT7X+/y8AXGUIW+PhMLC1OB+CDOizLsRf4kDm8A58PYQTR/5rShEc1qvJfuZRKRznU/mS l72eBo383v+8wd0Zi2/kuevJ7djtnTPXc7UqLVzwemSIsfQBaN69mFbdDyrxm1YhKsHQPZ9mVQ6nU PwGWRQFePA6VRZMysAm8fA==; Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nr67p-0003Cs-Nu; Tue, 17 May 2022 18:57:09 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: <87mtfineqe.fsf@codeisgreat.org> (message from Pankaj Jangid on Mon, 16 May 2022 12:30:57 +0530) References: <87mtfineqe.fsf@codeisgreat.org> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 18:57:09 -0400 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I agree that this change is correct, but let's not ever delete the old name "Hindi". Keeping an old alias does no harm. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 23:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Visuwesh Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, lumarzeli30@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.165282836232550 (code B ref 55439); Tue, 17 May 2022 23:00:02 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2022 22:59:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58319 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nr69y-0008Sw-BA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 18:59:22 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58870) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nr69v-0008Si-Vs for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 18:59:21 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:44948) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nr69p-0004BK-7i; Tue, 17 May 2022 18:59:14 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=GehgMdTE+Z805wEsotHxUys9XBZZdiN20mxtH2jb05E=; b=nNa/f9mo/ot5 AOpV1AJKMHerhrM/2YFZieQIIV8Hh47FY6017VUHSPvQ0oNgHiIHpK1XaT7hKXXeJiIWRGd3XBqoY kQ2hSiIXaLk0sfMtG64vEz6QC7Lfs6j53JfO0WrFwQLkqjfzGAmgUOsjgjLWEdL2n38AI4yysA7f/ FH3uYnEL3RM+QlPY9uUMhCxXXYmLTg5cYd1IrW5OlCLiNg9rW5Izl+EIL7iStC//NmSw7GCfZsLN+ noJxoUdChfqEcOIAIvixhNAHCbWgzBXr5o9azP+pQfD9jqw7HRAtY3jIs0dDVl5NLroBbhag09T2i QDbY1AGTUbYv0Ylzw2fJcQ==; Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nr69o-0006EV-Ro; Tue, 17 May 2022 18:59:12 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Visuwesh on Tue, 17 May 2022 15:19:09 +0530) References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 18:59:12 -0400 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > While we are it, should we change all instances of "Oriya" in Emacs to > "Odiya"? The old name has been in use for almost a century, if not more, so we should not rush to deprecate it. Perhaps in 30 years. Until then, let's make sure that both the old name and the new name are accepted, in any places in which people can input the name of a script. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 00:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: rms@gnu.org Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , Visuwesh Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.165283294016049 (code B ref 55439); Wed, 18 May 2022 00:16:02 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2022 00:15:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58415 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nr7Ln-0004An-UT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 20:15:40 -0400 Received: from mail-qt1-f177.google.com ([209.85.160.177]:34339) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nr7LY-0004A6-4g for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 20:15:39 -0400 Received: by mail-qt1-f177.google.com with SMTP id k2so595146qtp.1 for <55439@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 17 May 2022 17:15:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=d3MTgEOU/eh6j6UB3xA+SZ/ltp794Wg5ybTh8pbDvCo=; b=ANk1ZLBQuRy82Crrsj4W7GXkrqb403daiV8xJodDdZv+0ScrUWkIHc0KRP9NpLVYJV 9rKyHQ8gcGoe9dJnFgxesqbWbVWkO6uuGMkhg6iHIr26jNV+wrP/73Pr5Tv2USVU3mya mJHRQY/50W8Gu0bQKAAdEYZg78d+RSedWXQ+iBNTUs7cU/r2oqSFIKX+QuSwOmoZW4Y3 FoPGu4ZUz5tkAoHCHWNdYaTizmRUd4kKPTDnH2JtM/cQ5VNGpPgeJy+fiZtnJUKnIYU2 s468ZUWKxeSLmYRUrUKh2Y6BXCo7+8ZsKSJNp73xV8aQqa9LU+UgPOzB8MllCmMdqRGn vNHA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=d3MTgEOU/eh6j6UB3xA+SZ/ltp794Wg5ybTh8pbDvCo=; b=n6rrzc/YBnMcpOKHZ8viU/cjvQ/pxd3XZe17OM9Qlu48CXkb9THOJ8SLqdm+zmfWJh AfhNfb79RtbiM8MNqD8N3JNJsPb6NPfd5D+OGbmrcQMNEMDKCSOmpDkf36mGd9+E+hoU dAZYX5U1whkT8uGchvUSVeCX3/p3LQmkpyyXlCWqPz6ah6U8Y2OaklOOOAAlbVUUq10X o1gNK9HiBEsWfy+Ewa4wyrvlDXUoqgcTD1/0irFwCXJ7XEqtesu1YbaUQ5YY91FKtJGn qiZwhXwdCLqcGrmGYVn9vENNIWVEZSjk7lVoUd7DjnZElTDyHSCUmrETfPj911Zk4D+C ldkA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533IStrBM9fDlACPgrAV/mZc8RmWjwxomfRNvIVfRnVLnirD5Ch4 r6tTmT/E94qgF2mpaYixouPolzPTY7otbmRFThOcjdAdyIGLiw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyNO71kDPBYXvNoWuFQlAPM6fwL/uicDYASctWGJkCth9rCUNTLqzf9qCOqi9kb6oEs3UE8QNDBDs06NCHHcwc= X-Received: by 2002:a05:622a:120c:b0:2f3:d53f:7e6f with SMTP id y12-20020a05622a120c00b002f3d53f7e6fmr22013472qtx.105.1652832918591; Tue, 17 May 2022 17:15:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 05:44:30 +0530 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000fc5e6505df3e26fa" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) --000000000000fc5e6505df3e26fa Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I agree that this change is correct, but let's not ever delete the old > name "Hindi". Keeping an old alias does no harm. > Hindi is not an alias, it is an incorrect term. No one is using Hindi to refer to the Devanagari script, therefore I think it should not be readded. The old name has been in use for almost a century, if not more, so we > should not rush to deprecate it. Perhaps in 30 years. > > Until then, let's make sure that both the old name and the new name > are accepted, in any places in which people can input the name of a > script. > I feel like 11 years is enough time. Only two functions are changed where it affects the user, both are input methods: odia-itrans and odia-inscript. If by chance any user is not aware of the new name (which I consider highly unlikely), they can learn about it when tab completing. Since both the old and new ones start with an 'O'. On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 4:29 AM Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > While we are it, should we change all instances of "Oriya" in Emacs to > > "Odiya"? > > The old name has been in use for almost a century, if not more, so we > should not rush to deprecate it. Perhaps in 30 years. > > Until then, let's make sure that both the old name and the new name > are accepted, in any places in which people can input the name of a > script. > > > -- > Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) > Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) > Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) > Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) > > > --000000000000fc5e6505df3e26fa Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I agree = that this change is correct, but let's not ever delete the old
name "Hindi".=C2=A0 Keeping an old alias does no harm.

Hindi is not an alias, it is an incorrect term.
No one is using Hindi to refer to the Devanagari script, therefore= I think it should not be readded.

The old name has been in use for alm= ost a century, if not more, so we
should not rush to deprecate it.=C2=A0 Perhaps in 30 years.

Until then, let's make sure that both the old name and the new name
are accepted, in any places in which people can input the name of a
script.

I feel like 11 years is enoug= h time.

Only two functions are changed where it af= fects the user, both are input methods: odia-itrans and odia-inscript.
If by chance any user is not aware of the new name (which I consider = highly unlikely), they can learn about it when tab completing.
Si= nce both the old and new ones start with an 'O'.
On Wed, M= ay 18, 2022 at 4:29 AM Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email= : please consider=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]<= br>
=C2=A0 > While we are it, should we change all instances of "Oriya&= quot; in Emacs to
=C2=A0 > "Odiya"?

The old name has been in use for almost a century, if not more, so we
should not rush to deprecate it.=C2=A0 Perhaps in 30 years.

Until then, let's make sure that both the old name and the new name
are accepted, in any places in which people can input the name of a
script.


--
Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
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--000000000000fc5e6505df3e26fa-- From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script In-Reply-To: Resent-From: Pankaj Jangid Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 03:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.16528433478282 (code B ref -1); Wed, 18 May 2022 03:10:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2022 03:09:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58504 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrA3f-00029W-Fc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 23:09:07 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:56726) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrA3e-00029P-2c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 23:09:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55268) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrA3d-0004d5-VQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 23:09:05 -0400 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:50252) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrA3c-0004C2-Hc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 23:09:05 -0400 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nrA3a-0007kX-Vs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 05:09:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ From: Pankaj Jangid Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 08:38:55 +0530 Message-ID: <87pmkbedvc.fsf@codeisgreat.org> References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:YKZece0EelCtvVXDi1qd4Oq0Jzs= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) समीर सिंह Sameer Singh writes: >> >> I agree that this change is correct, but let's not ever delete the old >> name "Hindi". Keeping an old alias does no harm. >> > > Hindi is not an alias, it is an incorrect term. > No one is using Hindi to refer to the Devanagari script, therefore I think > it should not be readded. With all due respect for the work that you are doing Sameer, I would like to disagree here. People often speak like this - "this is written in Marathi, Hindi, Nepali". While they are referring to the language but most people don’t know the underlying script name. Rather I would suggest that we add new aliases for Devanagari - like Marathi, Nepali... whichever language is using the same script. From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 03:43:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Pankaj Jangid Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.165284534211299 (code B ref 55439); Wed, 18 May 2022 03:43:02 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2022 03:42:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58520 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrAZp-0002wB-Ko for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 23:42:22 -0400 Received: from mail-qk1-f172.google.com ([209.85.222.172]:42936) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrAZo-0002vw-H8 for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 23:42:20 -0400 Received: by mail-qk1-f172.google.com with SMTP id j6so628004qkp.9 for <55439@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 17 May 2022 20:42:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=UqpbV3IowP4KwZ88gFTD7skJN4ZD4nuEaXCh/z6uzEE=; b=Qhh83zL4H5O4dQSpPCyuRnHeI5W5b1Sdn7+7/fRJrmRJBWl157D8bHhJ26oXOGYdS6 LWOx7WWEPGNN0+s7bq40GOrQ+Xfy7MuJOnHQ3V2H6JNdWu9W9C5aR6ym4zh4rUmP7HiU LKqpIwwRNXiR+6LHfjMdYLe87TRlEHKgaMRrN65nyNFPOzGhO/1Q8IdXkvX8zARWuJiA IyhkqsnHxYHZ3+I24OPjPEdGRqznjjOFdPWZuXZGSXyy/EO7n7Jv48zBO4E3EAVTPR3L Yff/6fdbVcTLXIjqoBg7+lJiYvSAe9aLdkTWVg7ftavKdofwMyYP4eInZTad+cRJZHgS qvAg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=UqpbV3IowP4KwZ88gFTD7skJN4ZD4nuEaXCh/z6uzEE=; b=V5wFmV4adyCUYFf1nCv04ws0LVvpTTy3lE05ARr+ZYN26bYubfp1y3Thg2qcR9/D/b BQqQzqA+IqklMgcpI/LLz4gcjq5OA8k1Neb0zdxT2D1Gz5HGz50c5nACVBaKQlCHNYfl /i57Uau52msnpdZOdAXurusTuRNMFhAJ3ADzTQKRCDl4QBy3zNwT913U6BRcjLkoYqHN SZptSfphow4/FGGQPVa9+Rp7PftmCqWL48UjVJQXOHNQPqUTjZeGwjW0Xm2CJAbnQpYx igS9hwAo6iowoe4fTo30qrJ8b0RiWSW2kbHxXnwzHWS2Ev5rGpOae1cVK/IaJ6rTtm6X H7Ww== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5319Dj8n3WuILHxfvfcmAgOl6MW2+jSszUTTW0bmEqSraPQfXU24 jP6R1anurRp9SVdPFYdwCql6RJdONbmhq3Qn/ifkV2kVGPbyaA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzlsPdzX2vT9NLavWR5zR5TtKmqt9UhyTkyr+CGJYfYDyevrC+obolQ0573n3imma4nwIsDgCYouxLvuMirt0U= X-Received: by 2002:a37:68ca:0:b0:6a0:4bd:6098 with SMTP id d193-20020a3768ca000000b006a004bd6098mr19031076qkc.605.1652845334907; Tue, 17 May 2022 20:42:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> <87pmkbedvc.fsf@codeisgreat.org> In-Reply-To: <87pmkbedvc.fsf@codeisgreat.org> From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 09:11:27 +0530 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000e4fff05df410bda" X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) --0000000000000e4fff05df410bda Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rereading my previous email, I think its tone may come across as rude/angry= . It was not my intention. It is hard to properly convey a tone with text. I am sorry. With all due respect for the work that you are doing Sameer, I would > like to disagree here. People often speak like this - "this is written > in Marathi, Hindi, Nepali". While they are referring to the language but > most people don=E2=80=99t know the underlying script name. > At Least according to me, if someone is unfamiliar with the term Devanagari, he can easily look up what it means or look at the text to its right and infer the meaning from that. Rather I would suggest that we add new aliases for Devanagari - like > Marathi, Nepali... whichever language is using the same script. > Devanagari is a widely used script, many languages use it, such as: Konkani, Bodo, Rajasthani, Hariyanvi, Bhojpuri, Maithili, Newa, Kashmiri, Dogri, Kumaoni etc. Therefore it is better to write just one entry that demonstrates that Emacs supports this character set, after all this is the main purpose of etc/HELLO. On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 8:40 AM Pankaj Jangid wrote: > =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9= Sameer Singh writes: > > >> > >> I agree that this change is correct, but let's not ever delete the old > >> name "Hindi". Keeping an old alias does no harm. > >> > > > > Hindi is not an alias, it is an incorrect term. > > No one is using Hindi to refer to the Devanagari script, therefore I > think > > it should not be readded. > > With all due respect for the work that you are doing Sameer, I would > like to disagree here. People often speak like this - "this is written > in Marathi, Hindi, Nepali". While they are referring to the language but > most people don=E2=80=99t know the underlying script name. > > Rather I would suggest that we add new aliases for Devanagari - like > Marathi, Nepali... whichever language is using the same script. > > > > > --0000000000000e4fff05df410bda Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rereading my previous email, I think its tone may com= e across as rude/angry.
It was not my intention. It is hard to pr= operly convey a tone with text. I am sorry.

With all due respect for th= e work that you are doing Sameer, I would
like to disagree here. People often speak like this - "this is written=
in Marathi, Hindi, Nepali". While they are referring to the language b= ut
most people don=E2=80=99t know the underlying script name.
=C2=A0
At Least according to me, if someone is unfamiliar = with the term Devanagari, he can easily look up what it means or look at th= e text to its right and infer the meaning from that.

Rather I would suggest= that we add new aliases for Devanagari - like
Marathi, Nepali... whichever language is using the same script.

Devanagari is a widely used script, many languag= es use it, such as: Konkani, Bodo, Rajasthani, Hariyanvi, Bhojpuri, Maithil= i, Newa, Kashmiri, Dogri, Kumaoni etc.
Therefore it is better to = write just one entry that demonstrates that Emacs supports this character s= et, after all this is the main purpose of etc/HELLO.

On Wed, May 1= 8, 2022 at 8:40 AM Pankaj Jangid <pankaj@codeisgreat.org> wrote:
=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0= =A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh <lumarzeli30@gmail.com> writes:

>>
>> I agree that this change is correct, but let's not ever delete= the old
>> name "Hindi".=C2=A0 Keeping an old alias does no harm. >>
>
> Hindi is not an alias, it is an incorrect term.
> No one is using Hindi to refer to the Devanagari script, therefore I t= hink
> it should not be readded.

With all due respect for the work that you are doing Sameer, I would
like to disagree here. People often speak like this - "this is written=
in Marathi, Hindi, Nepali". While they are referring to the language b= ut
most people don=E2=80=99t know the underlying script name.

Rather I would suggest that we add new aliases for Devanagari - like
Marathi, Nepali... whichever language is using the same script.




--0000000000000e4fff05df410bda-- From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Visuwesh Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 04:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Richard Stallman Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, lumarzeli30@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.165284843716458 (code B ref 55439); Wed, 18 May 2022 04:34:02 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2022 04:33:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58585 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrBNk-0004HO-Th for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 00:33:57 -0400 Received: from mail-pf1-f194.google.com ([209.85.210.194]:33489) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrBNj-0004HA-EH for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 00:33:55 -0400 Received: by mail-pf1-f194.google.com with SMTP id p12so1076239pfn.0 for <55439@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 17 May 2022 21:33:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=a1byHCWu/m8yNTeUQ5T3T2ZavQtVCPe1/UGYLJiotA8=; b=YedOdEIi4s7v9+2ecqDMCrqVwFZaozWddlPMM+wZ5YkP4rwy4NfFwXPNVwNGxtP4Jj wpAJxfsEirKfFz5SSNLy4LVIrK002s2WN3fmnMY8mCMOTdKHgM4vkZc7UU+8nhqwKaNZ JhIcHJIfzc3VLv7Ij0gi73kZ/fux4/uCuZUaSL834k4efsIo1JnIFIG+dh0HiAg2oteh DEfq9UztCrDMf9HyB7hS+wl4LYYUk3zXRJaX/wAZG+PkQ6JMZTM0qpm2SyJlvyOtCSJy ZsmDiVeEDNuCSrFUdU5gc50IgfeGKNIrFA4hLwcLs4YiqZUksqzpVmOLtP8cn+NuBZp8 miTA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=a1byHCWu/m8yNTeUQ5T3T2ZavQtVCPe1/UGYLJiotA8=; b=nfeXGfgjN45fEstoruPMnn1QiEqfkiWZkxH9mDTLXNJ60hlyihnhj8Qu+hnWPM/aFc WhXbPZdNKjyE+YbvUj1gn6IN+6qjiAP3agQ7pCNe1OhGC21asz2b20V3SG9p81sarNZb Dq71bgWxRtJU2ZRxtyVe3NVcAz2A6HCFcZmWFJi8zveg9jmwqVYZjs5muSrkX1FXY4Go VQjY71/cn01k4GLm2zZy2cF3oky9C9EtfawMCZUTqWnunHmZ7bEafz/F5MLNeXTiJIgc VuZDGlN4429eHsQwkggfk9XftncWFK1pfPuGYfxkMhHOuqTn9si/1qMRGOTN7KiZf6Py ej3A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532/UyNMHqJ1jKZUmM8IfwLVnwaS1ZkbPdCKrzxv6p3BWy3G/Pie CPyCjyL/MveEiSlgLsKMkeI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz0/PASwj8K9xRu8uqEpEK66QvW0fxREetOvmEuurxK14MCBHpHXuAiPayKjv2kqEr1+jkYbQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:179f:b0:50d:e311:7d5 with SMTP id s31-20020a056a00179f00b0050de31107d5mr25880918pfg.64.1652848429668; Tue, 17 May 2022 21:33:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([49.204.133.5]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l3-20020a17090ad10300b001dd16b86fc0sm2544468pju.19.2022.05.17.21.33.48 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 17 May 2022 21:33:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Visuwesh References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 10:03:46 +0530 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 17 May 2022 18:59:12 -0400") Message-ID: <87sfp7v4r9.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) [=E0=AE=9A=E0=AF=86=E0=AE=B5=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=B5=E0=AE=BE=E0=AE=AF=E0=AF=8D = =E0=AE=AE=E0=AF=87 17, 2022] Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > While we are it, should we change all instances of "Oriya" in Emacs to > > "Odiya"? > > The old name has been in use for almost a century, if not more, so we > should not rush to deprecate it. Perhaps in 30 years. > > Until then, let's make sure that both the old name and the new name > are accepted, in any places in which people can input the name of a > script. I agree that both the new and the old name should be accepted, but I am not sure it is worth the trouble. In the interest of serving users, I think it is better if we do the rename and inconvenience others a tiny bit. I would say that the current name "Oriya" makes it hard to find the Emacs facilities of Odia support harder to find/learn as the user might not think about searching for the old name. Also, I believe the rename will give a certain empowerment to the native speakers; much like the renaming of cities and towns that has happened/is happening now in India. From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script In-Reply-To: Resent-From: Pankaj Jangid Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 07:13:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.16528579508507 (code B ref -1); Wed, 18 May 2022 07:13:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2022 07:12:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58781 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrDrC-0002D9-83 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 03:12:30 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:51784) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrDrA-0002D1-K6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 03:12:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59912) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrDrA-0004Z9-EG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 03:12:28 -0400 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:34234) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrDr8-0004ET-Ol for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 03:12:28 -0400 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nrDr6-000851-MV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 09:12:24 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ From: Pankaj Jangid Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 12:42:17 +0530 Message-ID: <871qwriab2.fsf@codeisgreat.org> References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> <87pmkbedvc.fsf@codeisgreat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:g7qUx+wdnX2ePH9Od+X9AaefbA0= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) समीर सिंह Sameer Singh writes: > Rereading my previous email, I think its tone may come across as rude/angry. > It was not my intention. It is hard to properly convey a tone with text. I > am sorry. I don’t remember I got offended by any of the emails in this mailing list. Intention is what matters to. And it is all good here. No worries. > ... > Devanagari is a widely used script, many languages use it, such as: > Konkani, Bodo, Rajasthani, Hariyanvi, Bhojpuri, Maithili, Newa, Kashmiri, > Dogri, Kumaoni etc. I am not disagreeing to what you are saying. My concern is habit and usability. People usually search for language. > Therefore it is better to write just one entry that demonstrates that Emacs > supports this character set, after all this is the main purpose of > etc/HELLO. Technically, one entry is enough for showcasing the script. But looking at the table heading in etc/HELLO, it appears that this file is for showing language and not the script. --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- LANGUAGE (NATIVE NAME) HELLO ---------------------- ----- Amharic (አማርኛ) ሠላም Arabic (العربيّة) السّلام عليكم Armenian (հայերեն) Բարև ձեզ ... --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- It is really odd and not very helpful when we open this file and find nothing for "Hindi". From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 12:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, visuweshm@gmail.com Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.165287795122267 (code B ref 55439); Wed, 18 May 2022 12:46:02 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2022 12:45:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59323 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJ3m-0005mi-RZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 08:45:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33120) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJ3j-0005dh-Io for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 08:45:49 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56722) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJ3e-0002eC-1t; Wed, 18 May 2022 08:45:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=JBdPm9xP1ojhgY4MMlt9cY9TizcmCOq2hyeGe+HQbOA=; b=RgGtdIosVdIAUKFZ134/ dg6fR+YRUSlxnmOYekbEApeTWnfZqFMZzNTzt8Gcg2JlFf0St+cYwIzrWHL7LAd7qKKT9ztwc4kyC G282lU8cNbwzI8qL+13FfcWsqv5EWQRswfUHelzD7fGjiIJQu43Sa066BPRifdG/4uIaytSuCbABJ aimV+4YtdFChaqg/MsCQPqpSlINmwJ5gUPJdW/bC9RomDLwt9yyfa6vF0h6btEgDgicWUoPUYYRce JxVO0psRuDDcXuK3LT6uaj4dEuemaagt66IriHAU+7n44+ZT9/4/tSHZeGJzTtBb+A90F8xoa3T88 zT2m3BRoTG+RHQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3906 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJ3S-0008VM-Lb; Wed, 18 May 2022 08:45:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 15:45:24 +0300 Message-Id: <83bkvvf1qz.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh on Wed, 18 May 2022 05:44:30 +0530) References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: समीर सिंह Sameer Singh > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 05:44:30 +0530 > Cc: Visuwesh , 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, > Eli Zaretskii > > I agree that this change is correct, but let's not ever delete the old > name "Hindi". Keeping an old alias does no harm. > > Hindi is not an alias, it is an incorrect term. > No one is using Hindi to refer to the Devanagari script, therefore I think it should not be readded. AFAIU, Hindi is one language that uses the Devanagari script. Is this correct? If that is correct, how about having two lines in HELLO: one that says "Hindi" and shows a Hindi greeting, and another that says "Devanagari" and shows a greeting in some other language that uses Devanagari? > Until then, let's make sure that both the old name and the new name > are accepted, in any places in which people can input the name of a > script. > > I feel like 11 years is enough time. In Emacs, 11 years is nowhere near "long enough". And anyway, the script will not be renamed, since we follow Unicode in script names. The patch didn't rename the script, and rightfully so. > Only two functions are changed where it affects the user, both are input methods: odia-itrans and > odia-inscript. As I wrote in the review of the patch, we cannot suddenly remove input methods that we had for 20 years. We must find a less drastic solution. From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 12:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, pankaj@codeisgreat.org Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.165287805227470 (code B ref 55439); Wed, 18 May 2022 12:48:01 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2022 12:47:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59338 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJ5P-00078q-UV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 08:47:32 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33462) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJ5O-00074i-8W for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 08:47:30 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56758) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJ5I-0002zx-TG; Wed, 18 May 2022 08:47:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=awtllzDSi7vgm2z2jsQtujVDctN7QsUMygAR5WpcRlI=; b=jXgmIGC0ZSv4C4ECrdks NB0eQAwoRBR3iwW9sFlMPqc7aSb7m2+ytp5YtQSjxHZtDKuOaiW8amgtM5/AE/03j6TDKy4Y4FDmJ 16vBPyIiEJbmw8pHMAxYrtQ5lLIxqDPIqdvkIijSZe5o6B/z1uXO3ThIvfE+W7sX3RDvmQ+lEVVr6 6gThteELRlmcMNgBn8jGP4WwdGAeYwtKJP9geHmci1x+MwZNy6+hB9+S8mP9GOGz438gxArh86TKr 5nMyVb1jyy7atxJwWYfIXP7cIRhlgqvC8QpA0Qe2nA/JJKpTN2eFN0R+pctkmIAJYQ1Jz9E9rd+gQ bkK0hwGDstfCug==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4016 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJ5B-0003ag-Cd; Wed, 18 May 2022 08:47:18 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 15:47:11 +0300 Message-Id: <83a6bff1o0.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (lumarzeli30@gmail.com) References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> <87pmkbedvc.fsf@codeisgreat.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org > From: समीर सिंह Sameer Singh > > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 09:11:27 +0530 > > Devanagari is a widely used script, many languages use it, such as: Konkani, Bodo, Rajasthani, Hariyanvi, > Bhojpuri, Maithili, Newa, Kashmiri, Dogri, Kumaoni etc. > Therefore it is better to write just one entry that demonstrates that Emacs supports this character set, after > all this is the main purpose of etc/HELLO. We indeed generally show just a single entry for each script. But we don't have to be dogmatic here, and can make exceptions if we feel they are justified. From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 12:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Pankaj Jangid Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.165287827828187 (code B ref 55439); Wed, 18 May 2022 12:52:01 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2022 12:51:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59348 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJ93-0007KZ-OB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 08:51:17 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34262) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJ91-0007KL-Eg for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 08:51:15 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56830) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJ8w-0003nL-3J; Wed, 18 May 2022 08:51:10 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=l5svLe4FZqXv2wwwLv+BiGG2W/SfXpchgZCu+XshPWA=; b=QN/fVFNViCd/ l3M/poObc54LpGROSBOR6FXLsTFL2t3mnMrdzwIEFhYl6D9dfL1LiSFwZhvkeKtpsUtjXcw3pIdpn O7RGpljD6dWx6dMnicB8fMwCDdEStctn9r6VIMOhbv0HY4xOxoWWZOWgUOVPY3fgCzd0AGXjmcifi EUVwRgZoQoCDlQ8mjHEb4eVOt0REB6nu3VNuCH/jfOUgod2ggDiFBNPdIu17lQ+1AkumdNQOhUERt EtcO8vgnntUyFudjDaXLIhmMD1IxbEnB8m4PNdNda6UNNvUx0e9Qrq3O1yJ8BQnizVZVfwTjD52He GvigjtEQNh7f/VtThEiT9w==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4251 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJ8v-0004pE-FE; Wed, 18 May 2022 08:51:09 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 15:51:03 +0300 Message-Id: <837d6jf1hk.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <871qwriab2.fsf@codeisgreat.org> (message from Pankaj Jangid on Wed, 18 May 2022 12:42:17 +0530) References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> <87pmkbedvc.fsf@codeisgreat.org> <871qwriab2.fsf@codeisgreat.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Pankaj Jangid > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 12:42:17 +0530 > > > Therefore it is better to write just one entry that demonstrates that Emacs > > supports this character set, after all this is the main purpose of > > etc/HELLO. > > Technically, one entry is enough for showcasing the script. But looking > at the table heading in etc/HELLO, it appears that this file is for > showing language and not the script. No, we do show scripts, not languages. There are many more languages than scripts, so if we'd base that file on languages, we'd need to make it much larger, and that is not economical. However, many scripts are used with only one language, and frequently have the same name. That is why it may seem that HELLO shows languages. But that's a mistake. From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Visuwesh Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 13:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh , rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.165288034315986 (code B ref 55439); Wed, 18 May 2022 13:26:02 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2022 13:25:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59437 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJgN-00049l-Cc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 09:25:43 -0400 Received: from mail-pg1-f194.google.com ([209.85.215.194]:43534) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJgL-00049Y-ID for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 09:25:41 -0400 Received: by mail-pg1-f194.google.com with SMTP id q76so2117652pgq.10 for <55439@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 18 May 2022 06:25:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SKnKi2RLA+kU1uo150cCx6Isjsklnup4pSErdbak6tM=; b=Xa3nkHkn6gmM11sj4I70ES4ac+9pZdUy9sur9SB+A1vUuc8rrUKxSiQ3iqowNyEUgV WTf0LA+ecb746FX7MJIFXri4DYEMMWbKJoVXdEylDJLi536aN74u4174du8L9S8HVQa7 uHfEhnC4DqmUIFH7gIZXvNVLhT+RXbwxeo5B4CskgY9bHcmV1uLrqln1dtwjWPUa3zgP OkOgGUmMqUAg5pivYNugpidyIsAXC8T1CNLzo6E/dH2ag3+ZyRSG58ZWJfXNkWUzZhd4 XLk/YuX51QcURJJcgBZ5+ypEdTF0e71u5Gz3bL3b0TiqxHcdusFvhFKcWFtx2YhsiNFN cdVg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references :user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SKnKi2RLA+kU1uo150cCx6Isjsklnup4pSErdbak6tM=; b=ZaP6YyAz1enGi8fWlEVzbHkch+P3EjWXd1Rh+llGFa6aQOZBMvY60bMKfAuqeTiywU COB37qNUpSavHfaddMaJaklfdC1/iEXRQFkUkn+GkTFUu9cZuGQzG4dlYJJ8NnsWwfar JUiMSynAbqwLyMF4duBQP6PMx6tbwZVvSu4zW39urS+qG4UZ9/W+ofwfVQHTEub9yBhV fmwgRLXB0MtXVvud7xAbACanlc8hIMpsvUNp1OZhnZWwb5mx5W5x0MHKUYdeo4JSGaDj NVBlfDsh1aRIgUWKc8dN4KLn4qO46O8nOcXlWoyI61ylNrJCZPuHhjqNk6BHmVle14fM MHLw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5306KtVmKM4qGrajcJDuuyKZg5OGNAW4kxrgZamSYI3HJgDa5Yp9 xrF6+y157kEfqKXhZ6SUg+Y= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzUqkXexNUUju0zOFSHVx2gexCYC8SIea+wbbiy7oerHtJrEc7ZpUBInyf5zHShOsoFhKF74g== X-Received: by 2002:a65:62c3:0:b0:3c6:12b1:1177 with SMTP id m3-20020a6562c3000000b003c612b11177mr23624604pgv.597.1652880335525; Wed, 18 May 2022 06:25:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([49.204.138.133]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 4-20020a17090a19c400b001d7dd00c231sm1584633pjj.22.2022.05.18.06.25.34 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 18 May 2022 06:25:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Visuwesh In-Reply-To: <83bkvvf1qz.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 18 May 2022 15:45:24 +0300") References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> <83bkvvf1qz.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 18:55:25 +0530 Message-ID: <87ilq3ug56.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) [=E0=AE=AA=E0=AF=81=E0=AE=A4=E0=AE=A9=E0=AF=8D =E0=AE=AE=E0=AF=87 18, 2022]= Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82= =E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh >> Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 05:44:30 +0530 >> Cc: Visuwesh , 55439@debbugs.gnu.org,=20 >> Eli Zaretskii >>=20 >> I agree that this change is correct, but let's not ever delete the old >> name "Hindi". Keeping an old alias does no harm. >>=20 >> Hindi is not an alias, it is an incorrect term. >> No one is using Hindi to refer to the Devanagari script, therefore I thi= nk it should not be readded. > > AFAIU, Hindi is one language that uses the Devanagari script. Is this > correct? Indeed, Hindi is one of the languages that use the Devanagari script. > If that is correct, how about having two lines in HELLO: one that > says "Hindi" and shows a Hindi greeting, and another that says > "Devanagari" and shows a greeting in some other language that uses > Devanagari? The problem here is that most of the North Indian language greetings are "Namaskar" or "Namaste" (which is what the "Devanagari" greeting is currently). But I maybe mistaken since I do not really know any of the North Indian languages; my knowledge of Hindi is superficial at best. Either way, I will ask for a greeting in Marathi, which uses the Devanagari script as well. >> Until then, let's make sure that both the old name and the new name >> are accepted, in any places in which people can input the name of a >> script. >>=20 >> I feel like 11 years is enough time. > > In Emacs, 11 years is nowhere near "long enough". > > And anyway, the script will not be renamed, since we follow Unicode in > script names. The patch didn't rename the script, and rightfully so. > >> Only two functions are changed where it affects the user, both are >> input methods: odia-itrans and >> odia-inscript. > > As I wrote in the review of the patch, we cannot suddenly remove input > methods that we had for 20 years. We must find a less drastic > solution. From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 13:34:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Visuwesh Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, lumarzeli30@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.165288083925272 (code B ref 55439); Wed, 18 May 2022 13:34:01 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2022 13:33:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59480 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJoM-0006ZX-OZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 09:33:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44344) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJoL-0006ZM-GJ for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 09:33:58 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:57972) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJoG-00033S-82; Wed, 18 May 2022 09:33:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=ZgHRuYsLyfV4ULQxTpMkehM2zxXBU3+MaJLgXWy19J0=; b=sPt3HunuKSxlHtDv6XOn pzm3KAbw2SNO5d//KtMvzqP++teVifWIp3ircSjOxekN4vOYf/eOqmonNy4Xuzk7QQ4ZAZul6JQbG Hck3k2TPpwJgnehsrDSrzbJff+yptM7glcyFIiglPzl4G+Pu9VZrbnWjDeZwLiC9nxQ2hVuMHYkzw Yy9kcAeHmUerIrY9TcZX9FC9e04d199cNxt/QPeZpxtxPv2h7uFrcgXKdDlvc/uixdUhkrjFAygEO KTN7MwiC0rK6POSw9cLthAQ/JdbWrqgM/NwgFXgR43jaP8jJhzb5C3vPhgNNim586nYPav0RqFMfq 5JZapM2FrHhOBA==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2901 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJoF-0007OA-Bk; Wed, 18 May 2022 09:33:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 16:33:45 +0300 Message-Id: <8335h7ezie.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87ilq3ug56.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Visuwesh on Wed, 18 May 2022 18:55:25 +0530) References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> <83bkvvf1qz.fsf@gnu.org> <87ilq3ug56.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Visuwesh > Cc: समीर सिंह Sameer Singh > , 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, > rms@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 18:55:25 +0530 > > Either way, I will ask for a greeting in Marathi, which uses the > Devanagari script as well. Thanks. Maybe someone else will be able to show alternative greetings in some other language(s) that use Devanagari, and we could then decide how to proceed in this matter. Btw, I'd like to clarify: > And anyway, the script will not be renamed, since we follow Unicode in > script names. The patch didn't rename the script, and rightfully so. When I wrote that, I meant the name of the script as a symbol, which we use in char-script-table, in font- and fontset-related settings, and in other similar situations. I did not mean the name that appears in HELLO, where we already decided to use Odia, per its official name. Making the change there doesn't affect user input in any way, it's just a "display name" of the script, so to say. From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 15:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, Visuwesh Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.165288595128530 (code B ref 55439); Wed, 18 May 2022 15:00:02 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2022 14:59:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33183 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrL8p-0007Q6-2o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 10:59:11 -0400 Received: from mail-qv1-f54.google.com ([209.85.219.54]:33501) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrL8a-0007PM-8l for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 10:59:10 -0400 Received: by mail-qv1-f54.google.com with SMTP id j3so1718847qvn.0 for <55439@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 18 May 2022 07:58:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=jGKfW8zZMrgV6/cqG/As3/TaW1kVRMkiEv4qywTvSD0=; b=RbKKEcGPOSyXa5Zk58CI1HrjkiYAMqrQA6vT55fFwkzdHGxXkj5k50tIBq3guWrG1m 6HF/zng11XNKM6kho5pejFPFMjT29Py3QPXXn6OgHPsITckohMyjW7tTiqAp4a669gpi LmwtY6SOP3YfJIilC1VLVyd8ETNEDvBpA385Il8kZnw7vhH5ZV4C+dpjk/fY8NDdTuV3 q5d549DMNLTlPN8/XoJiUGEHXtr8P7d4fX3vbUJvTaDu1FljAmq0K2EJdIP0BICO95B+ efBUFuYj1txgcJ6sSGed/igZvSDtBpHM828QPFZbEI59fwxlIOqbcffE8aWpAjLvDbOC jqsw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=jGKfW8zZMrgV6/cqG/As3/TaW1kVRMkiEv4qywTvSD0=; b=0FMOmTsj0bqiMfA8wHZiEokhMX9gPuLNrf7WWmyZXl9dyOW3lHyfUhoeCk24NYwWma uMgWWh9X9WJ96YneVUBxpbSTXwXPmO8p8RMigRjTioYPKV0AG4m32G+cCfqQEe1cyhfd /2YIW07g8x3E3TR/GJCAjBRyTZhfCA/0d4QlXsu80QeVKxzMr7OyfsenF+1+KLBWoeeo s3sXUSGAzeTSuPW6aDM+KW4ZWiYZ0nxEpEr6eqaWWJ+lZARjVSbGA3rV3Ld5nhEy2NL3 sPyZeZB85s+tuoW577xhNpBVT48NIUCZzNI5DkVloajckm7STwEeIUFk1sUDsgYr+aAm XUdw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530ccLGUBffF0eBk6/lAezey10RZr2C2oEzG86BSdsnAnqQQkHc7 EKE8T25DAigYF1WG4c2MYJAnV9b/3b4/H4oItO4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJychq2VX07Xg8KTfXklW4HkrR1FkCBXNQrQ5oAi1W4pBctT4ujwhaHCA+CivrghtShXsZT12t/tXKp37t0RLdM= X-Received: by 2002:ad4:58b4:0:b0:461:ca02:7577 with SMTP id ea20-20020ad458b4000000b00461ca027577mr15065824qvb.71.1652885930648; Wed, 18 May 2022 07:58:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> <83bkvvf1qz.fsf@gnu.org> <87ilq3ug56.fsf@gmail.com> <8335h7ezie.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <8335h7ezie.fsf@gnu.org> From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 20:28:01 +0530 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c0268605df4a7ebc" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) --000000000000c0268605df4a7ebc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > AFAIU, Hindi is one language that uses the Devanagari script. Is this > correct? If that is correct, how about having two lines in HELLO: one > that says "Hindi" and shows a Hindi greeting, and another that says > "Devanagari" and shows a greeting in some other language that uses > Devanagari? The problem is, like Visuwesh said, most of the languages which use Devanagari use Namaste/Namaskaar as a greeting. Either way, I will ask for a greeting in Marathi, which uses the > Devanagari script as well. > Marathi also uses Namsakaar. Of course there are also local greetings, so one solution is to use the standard greetings in Devanagari and local ones in Hindi, like =E0=A4=B0=E0=A4=BE=E0=A4=AE=E0=A4=B0=E0=A4=BE= =E0=A4=AE (raam raam), =E0=A4=AA=E0=A4=BE=E0=A4=AF=E0=A4=B2=E0=A4=BE=E0=A4= =97=E0=A5=82 (paay lagu) etc. On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 7:03 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Visuwesh > > Cc: =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0= =A4=B9 Sameer Singh > > , 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, > > rms@gnu.org > > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 18:55:25 +0530 > > > > Either way, I will ask for a greeting in Marathi, which uses the > > Devanagari script as well. > > Thanks. Maybe someone else will be able to show alternative greetings > in some other language(s) that use Devanagari, and we could then > decide how to proceed in this matter. > > Btw, I'd like to clarify: > > > And anyway, the script will not be renamed, since we follow Unicode in > > script names. The patch didn't rename the script, and rightfully so. > > When I wrote that, I meant the name of the script as a symbol, which > we use in char-script-table, in font- and fontset-related settings, > and in other similar situations. I did not mean the name that appears > in HELLO, where we already decided to use Odia, per its official name. > Making the change there doesn't affect user input in any way, it's > just a "display name" of the script, so to say. > --000000000000c0268605df4a7ebc Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
AFAIU, H= indi is one language that uses the Devanagari script.=C2=A0 Is this
correct?=C2=A0 If that is correct, how about having two lines in HELLO: one=
that says "Hindi" and shows a Hindi greeting, and another that sa= ys
"Devanagari" and shows a greeting in some other language that use= s
Devanagari?

The problem is, like Visuwesh s= aid, most of the languages which use Devanagari use Namaste/Namaskaar as a = greeting.

Either way, I will ask for a greeting in Marathi, which uses the<= br> Devanagari script as well.

Marathi al= so uses Namsakaar.

Of course there are also local = greetings, so one solution is to use the standard greetings in Devanagari
and local ones in Hindi, like =E0=A4=B0=E0=A4=BE=E0=A4=AE=E0=A4=B0= =E0=A4=BE=E0=A4=AE (raam raam), =E0=A4=AA=E0=A4=BE=E0=A4=AF=E0=A4=B2=E0=A4= =BE=E0=A4=97=E0=A5=82 (paay lagu) etc.

On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 7:0= 3 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>= wrote:
> Fro= m: Visuwesh <vi= suweshm@gmail.com>
> Cc: =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82= =E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh
>=C2=A0 <l= umarzeli30@gmail.com>,=C2=A0 55439@debbugs.gnu.org,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0rms@gnu.o= rg
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 18:55:25 +0530
>
> Either way, I will ask for a greeting in Marathi, which uses the
> Devanagari script as well.

Thanks.=C2=A0 Maybe someone else will be able to show alternative greetings=
in some other language(s) that use Devanagari, and we could then
decide how to proceed in this matter.

Btw, I'd like to clarify:

> And anyway, the script will not be renamed, since we follow Unicode in=
> script names.=C2=A0 The patch didn't rename the script, and rightf= ully so.

When I wrote that, I meant the name of the script as a symbol, which
we use in char-script-table, in font- and fontset-related settings,
and in other similar situations.=C2=A0 I did not mean the name that appears=
in HELLO, where we already decided to use Odia, per its official name.
Making the change there doesn't affect user input in any way, it's<= br> just a "display name" of the script, so to say.
--000000000000c0268605df4a7ebc-- From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Visuwesh Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 15:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.165288664729747 (code B ref 55439); Wed, 18 May 2022 15:11:02 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2022 15:10:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33206 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrLK3-0007jj-4n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 11:10:47 -0400 Received: from mail-pf1-f195.google.com ([209.85.210.195]:43844) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrLK1-0007jX-Re for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; 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boundary="00000000000047b2bc05df4adae1" X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) --00000000000047b2bc05df4adae1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I'm not sure if using "Ram Ram" is exactly a good idea since it has > religious implications. > Yes, it is religious, but I argue it is no more religious than the Spanish "Adios", French "Adieu" or the English "Goodbye". Religion plays a huge part in culture, so it is natural that it will also have its impact on the words. On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 8:40 PM Visuwesh wrote: > [=E0=AE=AA=E0=AF=81=E0=AE=A4=E0=AE=A9=E0=AF=8D =E0=AE=AE=E0=AF=87 18, 202= 2] =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4= =B9 Sameer Singh wrote: > > >[...] > > Either way, I will ask for a greeting in Marathi, which uses the > > Devanagari script as well. > > > > Marathi also uses Namsakaar. > > > > I figured that would be the case. > > > Of course there are also local greetings, so one solution is to use the > standard greetings in Devanagari > > and local ones in Hindi, like =E0=A4=B0=E0=A4=BE=E0=A4=AE=E0=A4=B0=E0= =A4=BE=E0=A4=AE (raam raam), =E0=A4=AA=E0=A4=BE=E0=A4=AF=E0=A4=B2=E0=A4=BE= =E0=A4=97=E0=A5=82 (paay lagu) > etc. > > I'm not sure if using "Ram Ram" is exactly a good idea since it has > religious implications. > [ There was a thread about where we should draw the line with matters > like these in emacs-devel recently as well. ] > --00000000000047b2bc05df4adae1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm = not sure if using "Ram Ram" is exactly a good idea since it has religious implications.

Yes, it is reli= gious, but I argue it is no more religious than the Spanish "Adios&quo= t;, French "Adieu" or the English "Goodbye".
<= div>Religion plays a huge part in culture, so it is natural that it will al= so have its impact on the words.

On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 8:40 PM V= isuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
[=E0= =AE=AA=E0=AF=81=E0=AE=A4=E0=AE=A9=E0=AF=8D =E0=AE=AE=E0=AF=87 18, 2022] =E0= =A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9 Same= er Singh wrote:

>[...]
>=C2=A0 Either way, I will ask for a greeting in Marathi, which uses the=
>=C2=A0 Devanagari script as well.
>
> Marathi also uses Namsakaar.
>

I figured that would be the case.

> Of course there are also local greetings, so one solution is to use th= e standard greetings in Devanagari
> and local ones in Hindi, like =E0=A4=B0=E0=A4=BE=E0=A4=AE=E0=A4=B0=E0= =A4=BE=E0=A4=AE (raam raam), =E0=A4=AA=E0=A4=BE=E0=A4=AF=E0=A4=B2=E0=A4=BE= =E0=A4=97=E0=A5=82 (paay lagu) etc.

I'm not sure if using "Ram Ram" is exactly a good idea since = it has
religious implications.=C2=A0
[ There was a thread about where we should draw the line with matters
=C2=A0 like these in emacs-devel recently as well.=C2=A0 ]
--00000000000047b2bc05df4adae1-- From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 15:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, visuweshm@gmail.com Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.16528888809688 (code B ref 55439); Wed, 18 May 2022 15:48:02 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2022 15:48:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33281 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrLu4-0002WC-E1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 11:48:00 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48034) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrLtn-0002U4-HA for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 11:47:58 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:32818) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrLti-00085K-78; Wed, 18 May 2022 11:47:38 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=tssgbRsImjl0QvEarMi+6s822MU9ykonjgPC3OKZmMc=; b=DsOZMXY+lqbME2t57Cbt /IhEysIQMraClVJoomupckES7Ew36aBUASDsLqrZCCNsztW1dQju0W6DfvbUe5YT8ZbbWXApr1vZQ 05ABAKcTMqpu3GFnzqtq03SsRCcyZUKcNvpxF9N/q3nnzFyJs2+wc00cme/IKvJPdefdpO6i+2gOE oaBVAN+LxjaOblQ2iWrhdqrW3kCiLzUW27deRXRij6R8CRlJyHcriPXRuC0RAYf1R4AlF3CJuZG5g IP3FqfXF9ErPPO2djjU1Jh16AN6d/GUbM8cqxd1huqhedOZrrP2+vGj1CfM9FnT3E7/SJC6iOACMx eVGAxghtughf4A==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3204 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrLth-000170-Bl; Wed, 18 May 2022 11:47:37 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 18:47:31 +0300 Message-Id: <83y1yyetbg.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh on Wed, 18 May 2022 20:28:01 +0530) References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> <83bkvvf1qz.fsf@gnu.org> <87ilq3ug56.fsf@gmail.com> <8335h7ezie.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: समीर सिंह Sameer Singh > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 20:28:01 +0530 > Cc: Visuwesh , 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org > > AFAIU, Hindi is one language that uses the Devanagari script. Is this > correct? If that is correct, how about having two lines in HELLO: one > that says "Hindi" and shows a Hindi greeting, and another that says > "Devanagari" and shows a greeting in some other language that uses > Devanagari? > > The problem is, like Visuwesh said, most of the languages which use Devanagari use Namaste/Namaskaar > as a greeting. > > Either way, I will ask for a greeting in Marathi, which uses the > Devanagari script as well. > > Marathi also uses Namsakaar. > > Of course there are also local greetings, so one solution is to use the standard greetings in Devanagari > and local ones in Hindi, like रामराम (raam raam), पायलागू (paay lagu) etc. So how about using one of those latter ones for the Hindi line in HELLO? 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Ok I will do that. On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 9:17 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82= =E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh > > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 20:28:01 +0530 > > Cc: Visuwesh , 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org > > > > AFAIU, Hindi is one language that uses the Devanagari script. Is this > > correct? If that is correct, how about having two lines in HELLO: one > > that says "Hindi" and shows a Hindi greeting, and another that says > > "Devanagari" and shows a greeting in some other language that uses > > Devanagari? > > > > The problem is, like Visuwesh said, most of the languages which use > Devanagari use Namaste/Namaskaar > > as a greeting. > > > > Either way, I will ask for a greeting in Marathi, which uses the > > Devanagari script as well. > > > > Marathi also uses Namsakaar. > > > > Of course there are also local greetings, so one solution is to use the > standard greetings in Devanagari > > and local ones in Hindi, like =E0=A4=B0=E0=A4=BE=E0=A4=AE=E0=A4=B0=E0= =A4=BE=E0=A4=AE (raam raam), =E0=A4=AA=E0=A4=BE=E0=A4=AF=E0=A4=B2=E0=A4=BE= =E0=A4=97=E0=A5=82 (paay lagu) > etc. > > So how about using one of those latter ones for the Hindi line in > HELLO? > --000000000000c588a605df4b920f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So how a= bout using one of those latter ones for the Hindi line in
HELLO?

Ok I will do that.
<= br>
On Wed,= May 18, 2022 at 9:17 PM Eli Zaretskii <= eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> From: =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4= =BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh <lumarzeli30@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 20:28:01 +0530
> Cc: Visuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com>, 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org
>
>=C2=A0 AFAIU, Hindi is one language that uses the Devanagari script.=C2= =A0 Is this
>=C2=A0 correct?=C2=A0 If that is correct, how about having two lines in= HELLO: one
>=C2=A0 that says "Hindi" and shows a Hindi greeting, and anot= her that says
>=C2=A0 "Devanagari" and shows a greeting in some other langua= ge that uses
>=C2=A0 Devanagari?
>
> The problem is, like Visuwesh said, most of the languages which use De= vanagari use Namaste/Namaskaar
> as a greeting.
>
>=C2=A0 Either way, I will ask for a greeting in Marathi, which uses the=
>=C2=A0 Devanagari script as well.
>
> Marathi also uses Namsakaar.
>
> Of course there are also local greetings, so one solution is to use th= e standard greetings in Devanagari
> and local ones in Hindi, like =E0=A4=B0=E0=A4=BE=E0=A4=AE=E0=A4=B0=E0= =A4=BE=E0=A4=AE (raam raam), =E0=A4=AA=E0=A4=BE=E0=A4=AF=E0=A4=B2=E0=A4=BE= =E0=A4=97=E0=A5=82 (paay lagu) etc.

So how about using one of those latter ones for the Hindi line in
HELLO?
--000000000000c588a605df4b920f-- From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Pankaj Jangid Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 03:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.165293005720910 (code B ref 55439); Thu, 19 May 2022 03:15:02 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2022 03:14:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34070 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrWcD-0005RB-MR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 23:14:17 -0400 Received: from mail-pl1-f173.google.com ([209.85.214.173]:40516) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrWcC-0005Qz-Sj for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 23:14:17 -0400 Received: by mail-pl1-f173.google.com with SMTP id i1so3600606plg.7 for <55439@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 18 May 2022 20:14:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=codeisgreat-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=kghep5ACZHm5GJyLVruPAxERoOm5e0SQknl80C/u77o=; b=Bdddfd4OCZwKW/bhT0YvB2e6q9flnh3gq5Y6f1qSsjDPAXHMr9Y13yTYE4WWYdbCKy 8CFOY/aQUGAV6/bKaZ1ojuaB2vtGZqwCEtuE0mKVpXzxS8RY7xo3D+zXygE3PNkCL94u UacSeHw4DT+vQIBN3C9LFvFWAIlJrQEN//1/KTaYYv3SceVJ/YHW4wY60foCVtufyUNf HqZPn/DRxbCnjdlD2TSD9UID3SOaFZx3QR0Y07utKgajxZp23v0h6X6bresteZWmEuq3 wWmpeJPKAnZ5y17CVXb7ZfSi1i1Yh2LSo7gvur+GAHIxQeeqdKrFXPGYaXzLcRkKnDST 3XEg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=kghep5ACZHm5GJyLVruPAxERoOm5e0SQknl80C/u77o=; b=OuJBKVx990CfjC8ZF360TKeEePf1laOcMfhj5ecfNaGPCcfCOcWF2jkpxqoWO03og4 iB9zikEfIG+IkcNM8dPdnVER7T23qGBo3o1aKX24qLtS2AzLQErzrhoP/5pPskzw5G/P hXhU4fPyj/riFkDp4fbeQtmjPcWSZArnvhSduMs9Gu0ZdFClvqQNS+Px48epaGlQFvF3 iXSeXYcX1Fl3JmMiaDWm6EOXewGyIO9dBE1wEnpChEmc5hX20IJuqiJ0y6z9s/8n5C0v s8NJ4c7NlQTEJS2RVu30o052TDC0qoFGLRAeZky8iMHo+PxGbzLzMCMCgmTpN2u4eqB1 Th8w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532zTRjo8FJpb5EiW9CLgz2+YpxZToTZouSVjXACFK/hcXaHnwfJ 9FH+wCpYVHrUTmfLBPXICZkNLlm1A4q4yw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxN9UTzpBJIXLKOraPe014P4GCA1hzzWYA9il7YoXMSMPBPBrw9p4nOgXuX2AX8plDbCR5ihg== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:1c0e:b0:1dc:414c:4927 with SMTP id oc14-20020a17090b1c0e00b001dc414c4927mr3442168pjb.144.1652930051007; Wed, 18 May 2022 20:14:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from anant ([49.36.236.57]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y20-20020a170902ed5400b0015ea8b4b8f3sm2397265plb.263.2022.05.18.20.14.09 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 18 May 2022 20:14:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Pankaj Jangid References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> <87pmkbedvc.fsf@codeisgreat.org> <871qwriab2.fsf@codeisgreat.org> <837d6jf1hk.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 08:44:07 +0530 In-Reply-To: <837d6jf1hk.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 18 May 2022 15:51:03 +0300") Message-ID: <87ilq2rz7k.fsf@codeisgreat.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Technically, one entry is enough for showcasing the script. But looking >> at the table heading in etc/HELLO, it appears that this file is for >> showing language and not the script. > > No, we do show scripts, not languages. There are many more languages > than scripts, so if we'd base that file on languages, we'd need to > make it much larger, and that is not economical. Got it. > However, many scripts are used with only one language, and frequently > have the same name. That is why it may seem that HELLO shows > languages. But that's a mistake. May be we can improve the format to cover language names in this file in an economical way (but that could be a separate discussion). As I said, a language speaker might conclude it wrong even though Emacs supports the language. From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 07:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Pankaj Jangid Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.165294435312637 (code B ref 55439); Thu, 19 May 2022 07:13:01 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2022 07:12:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34310 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nraKn-0003Hl-7x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 03:12:33 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54260) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nraKm-0003HX-3A for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 03:12:32 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:52172) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nraKg-0004r0-QX; Thu, 19 May 2022 03:12:26 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=8beO9QCh++fcviUcKs4hmrcWuT+hj6ehIkr2NNwPEqs=; b=K563BHbojewC 5Ur8CSM2HURNvVc2L9aDklHgoARYdx6W5+OmTEgJYOASEaYUFr9fForabJgwGZMJvQtA5R+q0jyA7 epta7Nhmd4qVq5ZlaMVgGx9GXqJwroax1f2NYWrOEnpCu+9tQuY+xg/qoigFZU//Rh1C4wvcBnx/2 18z9oSR6cAG54GLGErApuMv2WxC7QAS/F6ZJt5utctrChumnZbDdqye/JEBFSwO3CYDG3K2WIRXUu n16jOHtfDtS/5ea3gHHaxUymHRSvZMQCO8wBZPZ2I+URiH0iCSpj/XruRY3UbGPpLT9PJbrzADuve iC1UI0bRD+CwhJ+s0NPoWw==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4112 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nraKg-00060Q-C4; Thu, 19 May 2022 03:12:26 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 10:12:22 +0300 Message-Id: <835ym2dmi1.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87ilq2rz7k.fsf@codeisgreat.org> (message from Pankaj Jangid on Thu, 19 May 2022 08:44:07 +0530) References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> <87pmkbedvc.fsf@codeisgreat.org> <871qwriab2.fsf@codeisgreat.org> <837d6jf1hk.fsf@gnu.org> <87ilq2rz7k.fsf@codeisgreat.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Pankaj Jangid > Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 08:44:07 +0530 > > > However, many scripts are used with only one language, and frequently > > have the same name. That is why it may seem that HELLO shows > > languages. But that's a mistake. > > May be we can improve the format to cover language names in this file in > an economical way (but that could be a separate discussion). I think this could be a slippery slope. Once we start showing language names there, we risk people starting to request us to name their favorite languages in the file, and we'd have to add more and more of them. > As I said, a language speaker might conclude it wrong even though > Emacs supports the language. I don't think I understand how could a language speaker arrive at some wrong conclusions, please elaborate. If the problem is caused by this blurb we have at the beginning: This is a list of ways to say hello in various languages. It is not intended to be comprehensive, but to demonstrate some of the character sets that Emacs supports. then we could amend that text. 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Once we start showing > language names there, we risk people starting to request us to name > their favorite languages in the file, and we'd have to add more and > more of them. I retract my statement. True, that would be too much. >> As I said, a language speaker might conclude it wrong even though >> Emacs supports the language. > > I don't think I understand how could a language speaker arrive at some > wrong conclusions, please elaborate. If the problem is caused by this > blurb we have at the beginning: > > This is a list of ways to say hello in various languages. > It is not intended to be comprehensive, but to demonstrate > some of the character sets that Emacs supports. > > then we could amend that text. We can just add this or something like this at the end of the above paragraph - "Search for the script name of your language to see if your language is supported." From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 13:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Pankaj Jangid Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.16529686938177 (code B ref 55439); Thu, 19 May 2022 13:59:02 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2022 13:58:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36312 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrgfN-00027o-Ev for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 09:58:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47586) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrgfM-00027a-AG for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 09:58:12 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:57052) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrgfG-0001UR-SE; Thu, 19 May 2022 09:58:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=rm38D4rMyvgTm17yA7KENpC/LHrX2ikWvqDgX4owU9Q=; b=o3Q1l6y15uLc em3/E0NtKmSQusJSDgvemd6PmnWy8joMv6jszL9RLLorAhZVYgl/2zIBFSRy7fQ6FuyF92ajubk06 3H0knq6li+rLto+DkE3cG+GdjSPBL0o/z1Dx/kK0DvADvvlGSX7oCjxt+runKdj8ZfexmOg1MfZFO bliYHoWZUcjrVGQ9OxKVhecGbxOb2FGbITFlj27oXwzVIIiZ0c8YtCjDtd2LJstBePa8KKXKc7Rxj juSFGeainQbtfIVtRJtwpbO6f9CBgEiBV+RVRMVvCSoXgnfGqgKx56Nw7i56NrWZmWXqLTxl5O7HN fsnD9h0AxbOMte8Rkxy/dA==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1318 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrgfG-0002a3-GO; Thu, 19 May 2022 09:58:06 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 16:58:04 +0300 Message-Id: <83o7ztd3pv.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <877d6hskrk.fsf@codeisgreat.org> (message from Pankaj Jangid on Thu, 19 May 2022 19:10:47 +0530) References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> <87pmkbedvc.fsf@codeisgreat.org> <871qwriab2.fsf@codeisgreat.org> <837d6jf1hk.fsf@gnu.org> <87ilq2rz7k.fsf@codeisgreat.org> <835ym2dmi1.fsf@gnu.org> <877d6hskrk.fsf@codeisgreat.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Pankaj Jangid > Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 19:10:47 +0530 > > >> As I said, a language speaker might conclude it wrong even though > >> Emacs supports the language. > > > > I don't think I understand how could a language speaker arrive at some > > wrong conclusions, please elaborate. If the problem is caused by this > > blurb we have at the beginning: > > > > This is a list of ways to say hello in various languages. > > It is not intended to be comprehensive, but to demonstrate > > some of the character sets that Emacs supports. > > > > then we could amend that text. > > We can just add this or something like this at the end of the above > paragraph - "Search for the script name of your language to see if your > language is supported." Sorry, I don't think I understand. Could you explain how that text could mislead someone into incorrect conclusions? Armed with that explanation, I think I will be able to understand your suggestion. 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If the problem is caused by this >> > blurb we have at the beginning: >> > >> > This is a list of ways to say hello in various languages. >> > It is not intended to be comprehensive, but to demonstrate >> > some of the character sets that Emacs supports. >> > >> > then we could amend that text. >>=20 >> We can just add this or something like this at the end of the above >> paragraph - "Search for the script name of your language to see if your >> language is supported." > > Sorry, I don't think I understand. Could you explain how that text > could mislead someone into incorrect conclusions? Armed with that > explanation, I think I will be able to understand your suggestion. I will use the case of Devanagari to explain the proposal: a number of languages uses Devanagari as the script---Hindi, Marathi, Bhojpuri, Konkani, etc. Pankaj says that one might not know that their language uses the _script_ called Devanagari as people rarely speak about the _script_ itself but more about their _language_. At least to me, it is far less natural to speak about the script a language uses; we mostly speak of the language itself and refer to the script as "the way we write X language" (note how I don't use the word "script" at all here). From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 15:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Visuwesh Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, pankaj@codeisgreat.org Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.165297555720426 (code B ref 55439); Thu, 19 May 2022 15:53:02 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2022 15:52:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36456 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nriS4-0005JO-Jo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 11:52:36 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45144) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nriS3-0005JB-6T for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 11:52:35 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58848) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nriRx-0002Je-PA; Thu, 19 May 2022 11:52:29 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=DlosZBx2ngzz1A1Q8X1UNYDAbYXIyX8FjbU1Wk+dbZA=; b=EMdu+7K34WieQHVCfR3f nft4oP3DEIq+lzjrdeJt5zz6J2i5dV+0vyOCFrbFcpcA52k3WU5c7MDmEVPDWkaOcMHpQdhkwjU24 f2IEun0xOHegAFLGAx53VuAVvWu7zlHElmRZfbWnPTv2SwPm1Lpdq4Q39aMQEAeze40ljD4Yp6oB5 Y3BXvRie6kuKEfCJBnruSsZiZaPvekO3lvtOihfFV5qLRc+pz/JjFZOSbK/aDMiBfEFrBB+dfq/j0 cyNlSmWi3p5Auc7lAcNY+2lwCEccjel0I0+DFdCb5XOctqiN6hWcYxO1WNHLQ2PH/mcnpVcN6uwaP qAlk2w7xdwvpbQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4319 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nriRx-0006KR-6o; Thu, 19 May 2022 11:52:29 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 18:52:25 +0300 Message-Id: <83k0ahcyfa.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <877d6hlhkj.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Visuwesh on Thu, 19 May 2022 20:01:40 +0530) References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> <87pmkbedvc.fsf@codeisgreat.org> <871qwriab2.fsf@codeisgreat.org> <837d6jf1hk.fsf@gnu.org> <87ilq2rz7k.fsf@codeisgreat.org> <835ym2dmi1.fsf@gnu.org> <877d6hskrk.fsf@codeisgreat.org> <83o7ztd3pv.fsf@gnu.org> <877d6hlhkj.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Visuwesh > Cc: Pankaj Jangid , 55439@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 20:01:40 +0530 > > [வியாழன் மே 19, 2022] Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > >> From: Pankaj Jangid > >> Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org > >> Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 19:10:47 +0530 > >> > >> >> As I said, a language speaker might conclude it wrong even though > >> >> Emacs supports the language. > >> > > >> > I don't think I understand how could a language speaker arrive at some > >> > wrong conclusions, please elaborate. If the problem is caused by this > >> > blurb we have at the beginning: > >> > > >> > This is a list of ways to say hello in various languages. > >> > It is not intended to be comprehensive, but to demonstrate > >> > some of the character sets that Emacs supports. > >> > > >> > then we could amend that text. > >> > >> We can just add this or something like this at the end of the above > >> paragraph - "Search for the script name of your language to see if your > >> language is supported." > > > > Sorry, I don't think I understand. Could you explain how that text > > could mislead someone into incorrect conclusions? Armed with that > > explanation, I think I will be able to understand your suggestion. > > I will use the case of Devanagari to explain the proposal: a number of > languages uses Devanagari as the script---Hindi, Marathi, Bhojpuri, > Konkani, etc. Pankaj says that one might not know that their language > uses the _script_ called Devanagari as people rarely speak about the > _script_ itself but more about their _language_. At least to me, it is > far less natural to speak about the script a language uses; we mostly > speak of the language itself and refer to the script as "the way we > write X language" (note how I don't use the word "script" at all here). Thanks. So will the text below be better? This is a list of ways to say hello using various scripts. It is not intended to be comprehensive, but to demonstrate some of the character sets and writing systems that Emacs supports. Look for the script used to write your language, to see if it is supported. 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Could you explain how that text >> > could mislead someone into incorrect conclusions? Armed with that >> > explanation, I think I will be able to understand your suggestion. >> >> I will use the case of Devanagari to explain the proposal: a number of >> languages uses Devanagari as the script---Hindi, Marathi, Bhojpuri, >> Konkani, etc. Pankaj says that one might not know that their language >> uses the _script_ called Devanagari as people rarely speak about the >> _script_ itself but more about their _language_. At least to me, it is >> far less natural to speak about the script a language uses; we mostly >> speak of the language itself and refer to the script as "the way we >> write X language" (note how I don't use the word "script" at all here). Thanks Visuwesh for the explanation. > Thanks. So will the text below be better? > > This is a list of ways to say hello using various scripts. > It is not intended to be comprehensive, but to demonstrate > some of the character sets and writing systems that Emacs > supports. Look for the script used to write your language, > to see if it is supported. Yes. IMO, this is better explanation. Just one question - in the first sentence -- "ways to _say_ hello" -- will it be "say" or "write"? Or anyone is okay? From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 23:14:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Visuwesh Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, lumarzeli30@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.165300204216488 (code B ref 55439); Thu, 19 May 2022 23:14:03 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2022 23:14:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36840 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrpLF-0004Hd-LR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 19:14:01 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34830) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrpLD-0004HH-It for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 19:13:59 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42780) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrpL8-0005Il-Ch; Thu, 19 May 2022 19:13:54 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=aFmFaJjClO3lznVz9w7cnfANJxbb9/4EOaT+nrKcYZU=; b=ND/F0iSmf2z/ nEhY4aubswAtM102Lw3BCVt+MpQn1fZPIuMTk0aNPqnR4URrDPLE1ctRc5BtgInuVnwZWV1ye0Dgi bvGzcjl74MLSk47sIijRtkUEzsqINzAQgFpTC0RDzh8rbWkCtT6766TtDFsCj+MemZMRcnpC5bOIV 5F3My+Vr5G2ajfLBZu+d0YKsvXSBGHRfQIBBfxdxdRx65H8rCM7oYgpTMpF4m7fQ6bjqBHDImgWqR 02LDu7bM+KBepaLYlzIi9WZuJmTzsd9o2DewWz98Droev+d65C2pmsk6KAUoUGDlfEKCH/1OI+g0B IacTAWOEizQZkQF2VaVaCg==; Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrpL7-0005AK-Af; Thu, 19 May 2022 19:13:53 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: <87sfp7v4r9.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Visuwesh on Wed, 18 May 2022 10:03:46 +0530) References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> <87sfp7v4r9.fsf@gmail.com> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 19:13:53 -0400 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I agree that both the new and the old name should be accepted, but I am > not sure it is worth the trouble. It is very little trouble to accept additional names, as far as I can see. In the interest of serving users, I > think it is better if we do the rename and inconvenience others a tiny > bit. I cannot follow the reasoning here. Assuming we add support for the new name, how does deleting the old name benefit any users? -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 23:14:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=A0=C2=A4?= =?UTF-8?Q?=C2=B8=C3=A0=C2=A4=C2=AE=C3=A0=C2=A5=C2=80=C3=A0=C2=A4=C2=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=A0=C2=A4?= =?UTF-8?Q?=C2=B8=C3=A0=C2=A4=C2=BF=C3=A0=C2=A4=C2=82=C3=A0=C2=A4=C2=B9?= Sameer Singh Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, visuweshm@gmail.com Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.165300204216501 (code B ref 55439); Thu, 19 May 2022 23:14:03 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2022 23:14:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36842 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrpLG-0004Hs-1B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 19:14:02 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34836) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrpLE-0004HJ-BP for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 19:14:00 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42782) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrpL9-0005Iu-5N; Thu, 19 May 2022 19:13:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=X0c8EH7bineoFbmjAu1Oh54pkEtWeB8AQKfbe13sVco=; b=R/KZG+EhTdhW 5DxP+MTuF+pvoa29IAHP3isj/FO1sAj/RSy9eFuw9dctK9nabrrzrwf83+82MMVm6j75yZuzQvK5U a43bi4Bx26KZSbaGs6gtR3EAyZms8/lgPppHO71OvrByaLGQ3LIrzqc52sjA8qNMEm+w/A+Gq2nHU 8E54XjfvnFHLUIGipdrNFrw0qn7cFsT4DPtXpvHKc242fjKxW9J/FOeGSYnO9NVJ9cjFJaptX6cUV i0gAXd9j70TJO2scC02JcA0kSqkjT07Jh3CEceJrr+i13DbspWRjzcbfRCwi9r5JsHUrll7I9TGMk qAol0lcbRl6ctNvdw+tmvw==; Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrpL8-0005Af-KF; Thu, 19 May 2022 19:13:54 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: (message from =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=A0=C2=A4?= =?UTF-8?Q?=C2=B8=C3=A0=C2=A4=C2=AE=C3=A0=C2=A5=C2=80=C3=A0=C2=A4=C2=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=A0=C2=A4?= =?UTF-8?Q?=C2=B8=C3=A0=C2=A4=C2=BF=C3=A0=C2=A4=C2=82=C3=A0=C2=A4=C2=B9?= Sameer Singh on Wed, 18 May 2022 20:53:36 +0530) References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> <83bkvvf1qz.fsf@gnu.org> <87ilq3ug56.fsf@gmail.com> <8335h7ezie.fsf@gnu.org> <87ee0qvpuq.fsf@gmail.com> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 19:13:54 -0400 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Yes, it is religious, but I argue it is no more religious than the Spanish > "Adios", French "Adieu" They are much too religious! I speak those languages, and I refuse to use those words because using them would endorse religion. or the English "Goodbye". "Goodbye" is not like the other two. It was derived from "God be with you," but in the process it was contracted so much that the relationship is not obvious even when explained. English-speakers in general do not see any relationship between "Goodbye" and "god". Thus, in practice "Goodbye" is not religious. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:48:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 08:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Pankaj Jangid Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, visuweshm@gmail.com Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.165312038027671 (code B ref 55439); Sat, 21 May 2022 08:07:01 +0000 Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 May 2022 08:06:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40631 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nsK7w-0007CE-Kh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 May 2022 04:06:20 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56374) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nsK7t-0007Bp-U9 for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 May 2022 04:06:19 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48494) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nsK7o-0008Pa-J4; Sat, 21 May 2022 04:06:12 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=7R5tRs+3yg46FLGcpZtA3oHjLYa4XNHRHnzhKc+Ohio=; b=ez8a0ty8RMXN Bsi4tPPnXbBgARi7hQbAZT0WcERyGjGIZ6RRuHLKVY8/Oy2BLanAguxJooTLIwMGmYiBYYH2wYFNR 2oOHll9m27SF6c6TOm6a3Pw7bdpoxcxGM/lXgTJjAWHxNUzWEUy+tnoLO+fwb9LrTE3RvIoBiM43x 5sN2OMIDt6XPT4Zx3HnqrYpWdkn1aN7eDq8fLWAv0QVRVfAJamFlQtYgFatCm4P2kD6EAzkcSQtcg d9h361iHx8kBi0XWAqQr/EXOrbzo8ufEcWScAlWbJdGN5IrYCoIIyr2Ij1H9AhmzQEposj8jonMuL QKyL5jTidg9DydfO3sAgSQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2609 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nsK7n-000296-QB; Sat, 21 May 2022 04:06:12 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 11:06:06 +0300 Message-Id: <835ylz9uoh.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87tu9lqy8m.fsf@codeisgreat.org> (message from Pankaj Jangid on Thu, 19 May 2022 22:02:41 +0530) References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> <87pmkbedvc.fsf@codeisgreat.org> <871qwriab2.fsf@codeisgreat.org> <837d6jf1hk.fsf@gnu.org> <87ilq2rz7k.fsf@codeisgreat.org> <835ym2dmi1.fsf@gnu.org> <877d6hskrk.fsf@codeisgreat.org> <83o7ztd3pv.fsf@gnu.org> <877d6hlhkj.fsf@gmail.com> <83k0ahcyfa.fsf@gnu.org> <87tu9lqy8m.fsf@codeisgreat.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Pankaj Jangid > Cc: Visuwesh , 55439@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 22:02:41 +0530 > > > This is a list of ways to say hello using various scripts. > > It is not intended to be comprehensive, but to demonstrate > > some of the character sets and writing systems that Emacs > > supports. Look for the script used to write your language, > > to see if it is supported. > > Yes. IMO, this is better explanation. Just one question - in the first > sentence -- "ways to _say_ hello" -- will it be "say" or "write"? Or > anyone is okay? "Write" it is, thanks.