From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:30:01 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#54971 <54971@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#54971 <54971@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 28.1; input method chinese-ctlaub unable to enter =?UTF-8?Q?=EF=BF=BDp?= Reply-To: bug#54971 <54971@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2025 08:30:01 +0000 retitle 54971 28.1; input method chinese-ctlaub unable to enter =EF=BF=BDp reassign 54971 emacs submitter 54971 Van Ly severity 54971 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 16 09:11:12 2022 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Apr 2022 13:11:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60973 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nfiCl-0005FK-Vt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 09:11:12 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:40814) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nfiCg-0005F8-Be for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 09:11:09 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33934) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfiCg-0001St-7j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 09:11:06 -0400 Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:60571) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfiCc-0008BD-3T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 09:11:05 -0400 Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:van.ly@faeroes.freeshell.org [205.166.94.9]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 23GD5o9r021346 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO) for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 13:05:51 GMT Received: from localhost (van.ly@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id 23GD5of9014357 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 13:05:50 GMT Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 13:05:50 +0000 (UTC) From: Van Ly To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: =?GB2312?Q?28=2E1=3B_input_method_chinese-ctlaub_unable_to_en?= =?GB2312?Q?ter_=B5p?= Message-ID: <8be4854f-d8d7-dd9d-7c6a-8add55517c64@SDF.ORG> Organization: Sourceware Design File MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-595720241-1650114350=:21979" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.166.94.24; envelope-from=van.ly@sdf.org; helo=mx.sdf.org X-Spam_score_int: 13 X-Spam_score: 1.3 X-Spam_bar: + X-Spam_report: (1.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-595720241-1650114350=:21979 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Hello, The character entered by typing "C-x 8 RET 794a" for µp is incapable of being entered using the chinese-ctlaub input method. At the following website, the Sidney Lau "Cant. Scheme" has "Canton. Syllables" for typing in µp using * bang * paang => https://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=µp Multi-function Chinese Character Database -- vl --0-595720241-1650114350=:21979 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name=28-1-gnu-emacs-bug-report.text Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: <16631fe0-ff8b-8912-5d79-e9744cdf953@SDF.ORG> Content-Description: bug-gnu-emacs report Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=28-1-gnu-emacs-bug-report.text SW4gR05VIEVtYWNzIDI4LjEgKGJ1aWxkIDEsIGFhcmNoNjQtLWxpbnV4LWdu dSwgWCB0b29sa2l0LCBjYWlybyB2ZXJzaW9uIDEuMTYuMCkNCiBvZiAyMDIy LTA0LTA3IGJ1aWx0IG9uIGNoYXJsaWUNClJlcG9zaXRvcnkgcmV2aXNpb246 IDVhMjIzYzdmMmVmNGMzMWFiYmQ0NjM2N2I2ZWE4M2NkMTlkMzBhYTcNClJl cG9zaXRvcnkgYnJhbmNoOiBIRUFEDQpXaW5kb3dpbmcgc3lzdGVtIGRpc3Ry aWJ1dG9yICdUaGUgWC5PcmcgRm91bmRhdGlvbicsIHZlcnNpb24gMTEuMC4x MjAxMTAwMA0KU3lzdGVtIERlc2NyaXB0aW9uOiBEZWJpYW4gR05VL0xpbnV4 IDExIChidWxsc2V5ZSkNCg0KQ29uZmlndXJlZCB1c2luZzoNCiAnY29uZmln dXJlIC0td2l0aG91dC1hbGwgLS1wcmVmaXg9L3Vzci9YL0FwcGxpY2F0aW9u cy9lbWFjcy0yOC4xDQogLS1idWlsZD1hYXJjaDY0LS1saW51eC1nbnUgLS1o b3N0PWFhcmNoNjQtLWxpbnV4LWdudQ0KIC0td2l0aC14LXRvb2xraXQ9bHVj aWQgLS13aXRob3V0LXhmdCAtLXdpdGgtaGFyZmJ1enogLS13aXRoLWNhaXJv DQogLS13aXRob3V0LWNvbXByZXNzLWluc3RhbGwgLS13aXRob3V0LXBvcCAt LXdpdGhvdXQtbWFpbHV0aWxzDQogLS13aXRoLXpsaWIgLS13aXRoLW5hdGl2 ZS1jb21waWxhdGlvbiAtLXdpdGgtbGlib3RmIC0td2l0aC1nbnV0bHMNCiAt LXdpdGgtdGhyZWFkcyBidWlsZF9hbGlhcz1hYXJjaDY0LS1saW51eC1nbnUN CiBob3N0X2FsaWFzPWFhcmNoNjQtLWxpbnV4LWdudScNCg0KQ29uZmlndXJl ZCBmZWF0dXJlczoNCkNBSVJPIEZSRUVUWVBFIEdNUCBHTlVUTFMgSEFSRkJV WlogTElCT1RGIE5BVElWRV9DT01QIFBEVU1QRVIgU0VDQ09NUA0KVEhSRUFE UyBYMTEgWElNIExVQ0lEIFpMSUINCg0KSW1wb3J0YW50IHNldHRpbmdzOg0K ICB2YWx1ZSBvZiAkTENfQUxMOiBlbl9BVS5VVEYtOA0KICB2YWx1ZSBvZiAk TEFORzogZW5fQVUuVVRGLTgNCiAgbG9jYWxlLWNvZGluZy1zeXN0ZW06IHV0 Zi04LXVuaXgNCg0KTWFqb3IgbW9kZTogTGFUZVgNCg0KTWlub3IgbW9kZXMg aW4gZWZmZWN0Og0KICBzaGVsbC1kaXJ0cmFjay1tb2RlOiB0DQogIGVsZWN0 cmljLXBhaXItbW9kZTogdA0KICBwaXhlbC1zY3JvbGwtbW9kZTogdA0KICBp Y29tcGxldGUtdmVydGljYWwtbW9kZTogdA0KICBpY29tcGxldGUtbW9kZTog dA0KICBnbG9iYWwtZWxkb2MtbW9kZTogdA0KICBzaG93LXBhcmVuLW1vZGU6 IHQNCiAgZWxlY3RyaWMtaW5kZW50LW1vZGU6IHQNCiAgbW91c2Utd2hlZWwt bW9kZTogdA0KICBmaWxlLW5hbWUtc2hhZG93LW1vZGU6IHQNCiAgZ2xvYmFs LWZvbnQtbG9jay1tb2RlOiB0DQogIGZvbnQtbG9jay1tb2RlOiB0DQogIGJs aW5rLWN1cnNvci1tb2RlOiB0DQogIGF1dG8tY29tcG9zaXRpb24tbW9kZTog dA0KICBhdXRvLWVuY3J5cHRpb24tbW9kZTogdA0KICBhdXRvLWNvbXByZXNz aW9uLW1vZGU6IHQNCiAgY29sdW1uLW51bWJlci1tb2RlOiB0DQogIGxpbmUt bnVtYmVyLW1vZGU6IHQNCiAgdmlzdWFsLWxpbmUtbW9kZTogdA0KICB0cmFu c2llbnQtbWFyay1tb2RlOiB0DQoNCkxvYWQtcGF0aCBzaGFkb3dzOg0KTm9u ZSBmb3VuZC4NCg0KRmVhdHVyZXM6DQooc2hhZG93IHNvcnQgbWFpbC1leHRy IGVtYWNzYnVnIG1lc3NhZ2Ugcm1jIHB1bnkgcmZjODIyIG1tbCBtbWwtc2Vj IGVwYQ0KZXBnIHJmYzYwNjggZXBnLWNvbmZpZyBnbnVzLXV0aWwgcm1haWwg cm1haWwtbG9hZGRlZnMgbW0tZGVjb2RlDQptbS1ib2RpZXMgbW0tZW5jb2Rl IG1haWwtcGFyc2UgcmZjMjIzMSBtYWlsYWJicmV2IGdtbS11dGlscyBtYWls aGVhZGVyDQpzZW5kbWFpbCByZmMyMDQ3IHJmYzIwNDUgaWV0Zi1kcnVtcyBt bS11dGlsIG1haWwtcHJzdnIgbWFpbC11dGlscw0KZGVzY3ItdGV4dCBlaWVp by1vcHQgc3BlZWRiYXIgZXppbWFnZSBkZnJhbWUgZmluZC1mdW5jIHNob3J0 ZG9jDQppbWFnZS1tb2RlIGV4aWYgcGNtcGwtdW5peCBmb3JtYXQtc3BlYyB0 ZXgtbW9kZSBsYXRleGVuYyBjdXMtZWRpdA0KY3VzLXN0YXJ0IHdpZC1lZGl0 IGhlbHAtZm5zIHJhZGl4LXRyZWUgZmlsZXMteCBmYWNlLXJlbWFwIHF1YWls IHZpZXcNCnNoZWxsIHBjb21wbGV0ZSByZWN0IG1hY3JvcyB0aW1lLWRhdGUg bWlzZWFyY2ggbXVsdGktaXNlYXJjaCB0YWJpZnkgY29tcA0KY29tcC1jc3Ry IHdhcm5pbmdzIHJ4IGNsLWV4dHJhIGhlbHAtbW9kZSBpbWVudSBtYW4gbWFr ZS1tb2RlIGRpcmVkLWF1eA0KZGlyZWQgZGlyZWQtbG9hZGRlZnMgYm9va21h cmsgbXVsZS11dGlsIGprYS1jb21wciBpbmZvIGVsZWMtcGFpcg0KZGlzcGxh eS1saW5lLW51bWJlcnMgdmMtZ2l0IGRpZmYtbW9kZSB2Yy1kaXNwYXRjaGVy IGdlbWluaS1tb2RlIGRlcml2ZWQNCnRpbWUtc3RhbXAgZG90LW1vZGUgZWRt YWNybyBrbWFjcm8gc2xpbWUgY29tcGlsZSB0ZXh0LXByb3BlcnR5LXNlYXJj aA0KZXRhZ3MgZmlsZWxvb3AgZ2VuZXJhdG9yIHhyZWYgcHJvamVjdCBhcmMt bW9kZSBhcmNoaXZlLW1vZGUgbm91dGxpbmUNCm91dGxpbmUgZWFzeS1tbW9k ZSBwcCBjb21pbnQgYW5zaS1jb2xvciByaW5nIGh5cGVyc3BlYyB0aGluZ2F0 cHQNCmJyb3dzZS11cmwgdXJsIHVybC1wcm94eSB1cmwtcHJpdmFjeSB1cmwt ZXhwYW5kIHVybC1tZXRob2RzIHVybC1oaXN0b3J5DQp1cmwtY29va2llIHVy bC1kb21zdWYgdXJsLXV0aWwgdXJsLXBhcnNlIGF1dGgtc291cmNlIGNsLXNl cSBlaWVpbw0KZWllaW8tY29yZSBlaWVpby1sb2FkZGVmcyBwYXNzd29yZC1j YWNoZSBqc29uIHN1YnIteCBtYXAgc2VxIGJ5dGUtb3B0DQpieXRlY29tcCBi eXRlLWNvbXBpbGUgY2NvbnYgdXJsLXZhcnMgbWFpbGNhcCBtb2R1cy1vcGVy YW5kaS10aGVtZQ0KbW9kdXMtdGhlbWVzIGNsLW1hY3MgZ3YgcGNhc2UgcGl4 ZWwtc2Nyb2xsIGljb21wbGV0ZSBjbC1sb2FkZGVmcyBjbC1saWINCmN1cy1s b2FkIGlzby10cmFuc2wgdG9vbHRpcCBlbGRvYyBwYXJlbiBlbGVjdHJpYyB1 bmlxdWlmeSBlZGlmZi1ob29rDQp2Yy1ob29rcyBsaXNwLWZsb2F0LXR5cGUg ZWxpc3AtbW9kZSBtd2hlZWwgdGVybS94LXdpbiB4LXdpbg0KdGVybS9jb21t b24td2luIHgtZG5kIHRvb2wtYmFyIGRuZCBmb250c2V0IGltYWdlIHJlZ2V4 cC1vcHQgZnJpbmdlDQp0YWJ1bGF0ZWQtbGlzdCByZXBsYWNlIG5ld2NvbW1l bnQgdGV4dC1tb2RlIGxpc3AtbW9kZSBwcm9nLW1vZGUgcmVnaXN0ZXINCnBh Z2UgdGFiLWJhciBtZW51LWJhciByZm4tZXNoYWRvdyBpc2VhcmNoIGVhc3lt ZW51IHRpbWVyIHNlbGVjdA0Kc2Nyb2xsLWJhciBtb3VzZSBqaXQtbG9jayBm b250LWxvY2sgc3ludGF4IGZvbnQtY29yZSB0ZXJtL3R0eS1jb2xvcnMNCmZy YW1lIG1pbmlidWZmZXIgY2wtZ2VuZXJpYyBjaGFtIGdlb3JnaWFuIHV0Zi04 LWxhbmcgbWlzYy1sYW5nDQp2aWV0bmFtZXNlIHRpYmV0YW4gdGhhaSB0YWkt dmlldCBsYW8ga29yZWFuIGphcGFuZXNlIGV1Y2pwLW1zIGNwNTE5MzINCmhl YnJldyBncmVlayByb21hbmlhbiBzbG92YWsgY3plY2ggZXVyb3BlYW4gZXRo aW9waWMgaW5kaWFuIGN5cmlsbGljDQpjaGluZXNlIGNvbXBvc2l0ZSBlbW9q aS16d2ogY2hhcnNjcmlwdCBjaGFycHJvcCBjYXNlLXRhYmxlIGVwYS1ob29r DQpqa2EtY21wci1ob29rIGhlbHAgc2ltcGxlIGFiYnJldiBvYmFycmF5IGNs LXByZWxvYWRlZCBuYWR2aWNlIGJ1dHRvbg0KbG9hZGRlZnMgZmFjZXMgY3Vz LWZhY2UgbWFjcm9leHAgZmlsZXMgd2luZG93IHRleHQtcHJvcGVydGllcyBv dmVybGF5DQpzaGExIG1kNSBiYXNlNjQgZm9ybWF0IGVudiBjb2RlLXBhZ2Vz IG11bGUgY3VzdG9tIHdpZGdldA0KaGFzaHRhYmxlLXByaW50LXJlYWRhYmxl IGJhY2txdW90ZSB0aHJlYWRzIGR5bmFtaWMtc2V0dGluZw0KZm9udC1yZW5k ZXItc2V0dGluZyBjYWlybyB4LXRvb2xraXQgeCBtdWx0aS10dHkgbWFrZS1u ZXR3b3JrLXByb2Nlc3MNCm5hdGl2ZS1jb21waWxlIGVtYWNzKQ0KDQpNZW1v cnkgaW5mb3JtYXRpb246DQooKGNvbnNlcyAxNiA0MDkwMzIgNDMxMjMpDQog KHN5bWJvbHMgNDggMzE5MzIgMSkNCiAoc3RyaW5ncyAzMiAxNzAyMjggNTM4 NykNCiAoc3RyaW5nLWJ5dGVzIDEgNDQyNzU4MykNCiAodmVjdG9ycyAxNiA0 NDM3OCkNCiAodmVjdG9yLXNsb3RzIDggMjAzNDgxNiAxMjkwNjYpDQogKGZs b2F0cyA4IDIzMiAxNTA2KQ0KIChpbnRlcnZhbHMgNTYgMTEwODMgNDIwNCkN CiAoYnVmZmVycyA5OTIgMTA1KSkNCg== --0-595720241-1650114350=:21979-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 16 09:47:29 2022 Received: (at 54971) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Apr 2022 13:47:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32797 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nfilt-0008Ck-C0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 09:47:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47004) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nfilr-00087c-6w for 54971@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 09:47:28 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33212) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfilj-0005Lc-Ks; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 09:47:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=qV4HrqpuLBkatjoYh0OGOsfJg5PZvDPKSvUfyJxzWwY=; b=rPFfiWlm6/G0 R2vxyaqF7NdCTm5x/wCwfWQPPRWnZL3/e5SRk+wi4T/K6L7bTFwvdZHGNplBaOIJfS33SDkop+bhS nFA5TxMEIDWLr5sReoOKLQ90RWa7ujXJjQKpRD3Nh4JLIQ6l3vvk2ARhoNQfQeuidpziEjwKeMxHr /rsazrr0eMvAopu1IR+AiCbHjbg2qH2PXBldut3z3N+FIVN6r1Jqdk5M+P6WgGIVvzqqXlZmQDv2n KKq6ZOxDKaMllg2QbX11lM35wwG3GSSGeuLO6YS1ix1RtN7ux1T3ZqxTpn89VoPPRp9qA87KM+BgG Fc0oDmZFTx6tc+GlpB9CeQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3141 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfilj-0000jf-1n; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 09:47:19 -0400 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:47:31 +0300 Message-Id: <831qxx16oc.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Van Ly In-Reply-To: <8be4854f-d8d7-dd9d-7c6a-8add55517c64@SDF.ORG> (message from Van Ly on Sat, 16 Apr 2022 13:05:50 +0000 (UTC)) Subject: Re: bug#54971: 28.1; input method chinese-ctlaub unable to enter =?utf-8?Q?=EF=BF=BDp?= References: <8be4854f-d8d7-dd9d-7c6a-8add55517c64@SDF.ORG> X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54971 Cc: 54971@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 13:05:50 +0000 (UTC) > From: Van Ly > > The character entered by typing "C-x 8 RET 794a" for µp is incapable > of being entered using the chinese-ctlaub input method. What is that \265 octal escape? You use it in the URL below as well: > => https://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=µp > Multi-function Chinese Character Database But I cannot use that in my Web browser, and suspect it is some encoding problem when you composed the message. > At the following website, the Sidney Lau "Cant. Scheme" has "Canton. > Syllables" for typing in µp using > > * bang > * paang We don't have the U+794A character in CTLau-b5.html, neither under BANG nor in PAANG, which I suppose is why you cannot insert that character. If there is an updated version of that file or the equivalent data somewhere, we could perhaps use it. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 16 10:20:44 2022 Received: (at 54971) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Apr 2022 14:20:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33995 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nfjI4-00013y-89 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 10:20:44 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:33282) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nfjI1-00013k-LF for 54971@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 10:20:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=iATVyyqPaagwmrH0dvFSQ5JwnQYTm9JiSJHUXl5Ddqc=; b=OFHpWUvrfmdITRdhjptH1Zve8c +5LnjLNAYgJnZXcD0FRYyuWSzaxl4PQwUOj6gWszyXQoHnn8QcY7dX+Uvn+yj1Gy5B4tk8Hh0QD31 lG/5m3cR9G/YpghyTV589W5s85uogH1BuGrsmlbvs+3bpbql5FolmhGuI8yNYqFnbERI=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nfjHs-0000cN-0d; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:20:34 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#54971: 28.1; input method chinese-ctlaub unable to enter =?utf-8?Q?=EF=BF=BDp?= References: <8be4854f-d8d7-dd9d-7c6a-8add55517c64@SDF.ORG> <831qxx16oc.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:20:31 +0200 In-Reply-To: <831qxx16oc.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:47:31 +0300") Message-ID: <87a6clds9c.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > What is that \265 octal escape? You use it in the URL below as well: The mail from Van Ly used a very odd charset -- GB2312 -- so perhaps rmail had difficulties with it? It came across fine in Gnus: Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54971 Cc: Van Ly , 54971@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: > What is that \265 octal escape? You use it in the URL below as well: The mail from Van Ly used a very odd charset -- GB2312 -- so perhaps rmail had difficulties with it? It came across fine in Gnus: ---- The character entered by typing "C-x 8 RET 794a" for =E7=A5=8A is incapable of being entered using the chinese-ctlaub input method. At the following website, the Sidney Lau "Cant. Scheme" has "Canton. Syllables" for typing in =E7=A5=8A using * bang * paang =3D> https://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=3D=E7= =A5=8A Multi-function Chinese Character Database ---- --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 16 10:52:13 2022 Received: (at 54971) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Apr 2022 14:52:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34053 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nfjmX-00045H-8H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 10:52:13 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:38066) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nfjmU-000457-RR for 54971@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 10:52:11 -0400 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Kgbkr5Nt6z1r15P; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:52:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Kgbkr3St4z1qqkB; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:52:04 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O23sX_Nt4l8D; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:52:03 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: u1VqDNXbDa5b41fJ5QcBALYT930MZ9i4+tGjkKTYWs3IevYtmynGWnq2moLb/xjQ Received: from igel.home (ppp-46-244-177-210.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.177.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:52:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 080E82C39AF; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:52:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#54971: 28.1; input method chinese-ctlaub unable to enter =?utf-8?Q?=EF=BF=BDp?= References: <8be4854f-d8d7-dd9d-7c6a-8add55517c64@SDF.ORG> <831qxx16oc.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6clds9c.fsf@gnus.org> X-Yow: Hmmm.. A hash-singer and a cross-eyed guy were SLEEPING on a deserted island, when... Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:52:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87a6clds9c.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:20:31 +0200") Message-ID: <87tuatxer1.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54971 Cc: Van Ly , Eli Zaretskii , 54971@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) On Apr 16 2022, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > The mail from Van Ly used a very odd charset -- GB2312 -- so perhaps > rmail had difficulties with it? It came across fine in Gnus: That only works if you decode it with GB18030 instead of GB2312. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 16 12:22:22 2022 Received: (at 54971) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Apr 2022 16:22:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34171 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nflBm-00008h-Ht for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 12:22:22 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43592) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nflBk-00008U-Rh for 54971@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 12:22:21 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35314) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nflBb-0002fB-7s; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 12:22:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=1mbYCrJ65d8/guYTH/3XmrRZFHt6zoXy6EnJUamaUos=; b=UZHM71ORa7yORdED8Fma 3Vz+CybXtZTp7W5h77QNSSJpWvAhyST2dYrZ8jG7IPpppA5SJwJxit88hmnFT/igV3ZBeUU4C70X5 l9n697AOQNLPc7Yb/Z87x3alV8P+cQzenzFpnZMorKLi5FJUm4jmdpRkqF7zoTqC0E7FatJjmCz9s BIwg9ukAVV9Cat4EizlaK1TAjpv6AGrsI1ikLJAa3QUklhOzxueXQNb6i4jZLqCf2iyKGg9/ikEhG fXnfQPhRj274x07Dvbo4vAfBioMxtHCsYr5GPGuwsRWKCnVUOlymBYmC5l/FwAsuHnBtnmvhW8qjV m1Ctfl93hJPVwA==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1095 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nflBa-0001dC-Ns; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 12:22:11 -0400 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 19:22:06 +0300 Message-Id: <83wnfpyp5d.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <87a6clds9c.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:20:31 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#54971: 28.1; input method chinese-ctlaub unable to enter =?utf-8?Q?=EF=BF=BDp?= References: <8be4854f-d8d7-dd9d-7c6a-8add55517c64@SDF.ORG> <831qxx16oc.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6clds9c.fsf@gnus.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54971 Cc: van.ly@sdf.org, 54971@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: Van Ly , 54971@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:20:31 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > What is that \265 octal escape? You use it in the URL below as well: > > The mail from Van Ly used a very odd charset -- GB2312 -- so perhaps > rmail had difficulties with it? I don't think so: the encoding of the buffer was shown correctly, and the decoding uses the usual Emacs primitives. > It came across fine in Gnus: > > ---- > The character entered by typing "C-x 8 RET 794a" for 祊 is incapable > of being entered using the chinese-ctlaub input method. > > At the following website, the Sidney Lau "Cant. Scheme" has > "Canton. Syllables" for typing in 祊 using > > * bang > * paang > > => https://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=祊 > Multi-function Chinese Character Database OK, but I don't understand what I see on that page. And anyway, I think the conclusion is the same: we don't have that character in the file we use as the source for the chinese-ctlaub input method. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 16 14:01:00 2022 Received: (at 54971) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Apr 2022 18:01:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34273 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nfmjE-0002kW-Do for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 14:01:00 -0400 Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:56634) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nfmjC-0002kN-W3 for 54971@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 14:00:59 -0400 Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:van.ly@faeroes.freeshell.org [205.166.94.9]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 23GI0vAI002814 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Sat, 16 Apr 2022 18:00:57 GMT Received: from localhost (van.ly@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id 23GI0uen004122; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 18:00:56 GMT Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 18:00:56 +0000 (UTC) From: Van Ly To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_bug#54971=3A_28=2E1=3B_input_method_chinese-ctl?= =?UTF-8?Q?aub_unable_to_enter_=EF=BF=BDp?= In-Reply-To: <83wnfpyp5d.fsf@gnu.org> Message-ID: References: <8be4854f-d8d7-dd9d-7c6a-8add55517c64@SDF.ORG> <831qxx16oc.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6clds9c.fsf@gnus.org> <83wnfpyp5d.fsf@gnu.org> Organization: Sourceware Design File MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1735474372-1650132056=:10178" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54971 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 54971@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1735474372-1650132056=:10178 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sat, 16 Apr 2022, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen >> Cc: Van Ly , 54971@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:20:31 +0200 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >>> What is that \265 octal escape? You use it in the URL below as well: >> >> The mail from Van Ly used a very odd charset -- GB2312 -- so perhaps >> rmail had difficulties with it? > > I don't think so: the encoding of the buffer was shown correctly, and > the decoding uses the usual Emacs primitives. > I use the Pine mail reader and in it I use Gnu Emacs as an alternative editor. The layering of pico, emacs editors in the construction of the email may explain why the charset is what it is. I would expect it to be utf8. >> => https://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=祊 >> Multi-function Chinese Character Database > > OK, but I don't understand what I see on that page. And anyway, I > think the conclusion is the same: we don't have that character in the > file we use as the source for the chinese-ctlaub input method. Some fields on the database are presented in English by clicking on "ENG" where you find it on the left navigation menu if your web browser frame is wide enough. There is a "Suggestions" link at the bottom of the webpage => https://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/feedback.php Suggestions Perhaps the Admin. there is willing to collaborate with the GNU Emacs Project and provide the needed file to keep chinese-ctlaub current with their wider repertoire of characters. -- vl --0-1735474372-1650132056=:10178-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 16 14:29:07 2022 Received: (at 54971) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Apr 2022 18:29:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34291 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nfnAR-0003RC-Gt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 14:29:07 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36672) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nfnAP-0003Qj-RZ for 54971@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 14:29:07 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36158) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfnAK-00047A-JZ; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 14:29:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=ljWjk/5E5Ydje7bk2TPHZN1MCeBT70xmgj5eAMN4U1Q=; b=OHslf66fLcmR3GF4ETOo rxawuWXYW77E84qp6NsE0OXRmmFAA1P4A+4E5lyMmha0+XNxPLu5Bu+GRU4cs35EndIde7C14bxYb mThDQLno4zdQs+7iABTK9QrKeuxdoR/vDsG+ZO9ovi6n1BxrMYww6P8jjsxH2PonEWzGkUKpGuig4 RmuCfus6c5iWUofJV0pL1/iMjmCMU0qERB01t31nGiO3wTA10ksO0+DsOzpgXYloqCUtpDnMpyZuA Qw+/QPU5cZS9dcGZ0S0Htj8jIgweRPxcO/4iv61CA1V6I+hsD8CABrhDNhMIippRfFMKtpwWLeQqO GfRyD5ObZ5wCFg==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1057 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfnAK-0004ZA-71; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 14:29:00 -0400 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 21:28:54 +0300 Message-Id: <83mtgkzxuh.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Van Ly In-Reply-To: (message from Van Ly on Sat, 16 Apr 2022 18:00:56 +0000 (UTC)) Subject: Re: bug#54971: 28.1; input method chinese-ctlaub unable to enter =?utf-8?Q?=EF=BF=BDp?= References: <8be4854f-d8d7-dd9d-7c6a-8add55517c64@SDF.ORG> <831qxx16oc.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6clds9c.fsf@gnus.org> <83wnfpyp5d.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54971 Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 54971@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 18:00:56 +0000 (UTC) > From: Van Ly > cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 54971@debbugs.gnu.org > > >> => https://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=祊 > >> Multi-function Chinese Character Database > > > > OK, but I don't understand what I see on that page. And anyway, I > > think the conclusion is the same: we don't have that character in the > > file we use as the source for the chinese-ctlaub input method. > > Some fields on the database are presented in English by clicking on > "ENG" where you find it on the left navigation menu if your web > browser frame is wide enough. I did click on "ENG"; nothing happened. > There is a "Suggestions" link at the bottom of the webpage > > => https://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/feedback.php > Suggestions > > Perhaps the Admin. there is willing to collaborate with the GNU Emacs > Project and provide the needed file to keep chinese-ctlaub current > with their wider repertoire of characters. Feel free to submit feedback to them. Me, I'd be happy to know where we can find an up-to-date version of the file from which we derived the CTLau-b5.html file we keep in our repository and from which we produce that input method. If you know, or can find out, please tell. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 16 15:23:19 2022 Received: (at 54971) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Apr 2022 19:23:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34328 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nfo0t-0004od-M2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 15:23:19 -0400 Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:59602) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nfo0r-0004oU-7Y for 54971@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 15:23:18 -0400 Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:van.ly@faeroes.freeshell.org [205.166.94.9]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 23GJNF7u016495 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Sat, 16 Apr 2022 19:23:16 GMT Received: from localhost (van.ly@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id 23GJNE9V000137; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 19:23:14 GMT Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 19:23:14 +0000 (UTC) From: Van Ly To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_bug#54971=3A_28=2E1=3B_input_method_chinese-ctl?= =?UTF-8?Q?aub_unable_to_enter_=EF=BF=BDp?= In-Reply-To: <83mtgkzxuh.fsf@gnu.org> Message-ID: <18f3b95c-358-bafc-483-fb738ea0a216@SDF.ORG> References: <8be4854f-d8d7-dd9d-7c6a-8add55517c64@SDF.ORG> <831qxx16oc.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6clds9c.fsf@gnus.org> <83wnfpyp5d.fsf@gnu.org> <83mtgkzxuh.fsf@gnu.org> Organization: Sourceware Design File MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1056419209-1650136994=:2905" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54971 Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 54971@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1056419209-1650136994=:2905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sat, 16 Apr 2022, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Some fields on the database are presented in English by clicking on >> "ENG" where you find it on the left navigation menu if your web >> browser frame is wide enough. > > I did click on "ENG"; nothing happened. > Maybe you need to activate the Java/Javascript and retrieve an entry from the database to see a change with "ENG" shown in bold font. > Feel free to submit feedback to them. Me, I'd be happy to know where > we can find an up-to-date version of the file from which we derived > the CTLau-b5.html file we keep in our repository and from which we > produce that input method. If you know, or can find out, please tell. I don't know. My guess is CTLau-b5.html widen in use from Sidney Lau's immediate circle. Anyway, I entered the following message on the feedback page. And the return e-mail address I used is * GNU Emacs Project * 54971@debbugs.gnu.org ''' The input method chinese-ctlaub on GNU Emacs editor is incapable of entering the Chinese character 祊 without its CTLau-b5.html file having the more up-to-date version available from the entry such as => https://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=祊 MfCC Database There the "Cant. Scheme:Sidney Lau" for 祊 lists the "Canton. Syllables" as * bang * paang Would the Admin. be willing to collaborate with the GNU Emacs Project to provide the needed file updates to keep the chinese-ctlaub input method current with your wider character repertoire? Thanks in advance. ''' -- vl --0-1056419209-1650136994=:2905-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 16 20:46:09 2022 Received: (at 54971) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Apr 2022 00:46:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34667 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nft3I-0006h6-Ss for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 20:46:09 -0400 Received: from sonic303-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.188.148]:43681) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nft3H-0006ge-DY for 54971@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 20:46:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1650156361; bh=3na72oFX6THL8ZrbCjsonr39nIh0z7+APYYSmE6DhxI=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=kZgAfrWhrkPTMgucHELu4hGBZ5IRAENH/yugVi17QqutlRjqiTHVMaLbhI4GfiWza6GSAK9U7vXl+WDc6pCPhnrjlN1P2PxHjpC8Esb5baNhDBKJt/3Qjz/Np8to4Y+rlYISpVLfTlIeG5i5KTVYdyvxdiANK0iUzBBU9YOxTS4SD1I+ly0CsbB3Y/Wf8xEZK4FAZK7BZja9TanzJ7P+xWkoSLtNLTn45pPCC9Ce0YB+6/C82KP6Ur8f4E35aDPBopOdNZcUSAZBJoJBFD4GC+ZCj4p8wxI88fjEFQIoOhWPHypChS2ISg8wXgsX491iiuG2Rx81mN0HJGo0C/kmjA== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1650156361; bh=ekoZdFsS36RnmQTmG/8Wx6lnrIVm6HR7KgfrFvKCIH+=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=bLkd/pFKzWbqbF+C5cy7pr45G2ksphdmP8UUjvtsgdhRtBWFP0j7gTWUKhmh+RXWPLxRMHpwjWa6NeppCJ5DL8nFJLA8mcVxPGe+ufNtIJXM6s4e+pW5YZ5Gw1LrqLOQzsWQB/tsOlCbMX1utGs0UoBzl+2fob7yHkNPOnxyYxvSBy9zqCWZ+LPpZSY+Y6RVbUaz35vetPAZrBUvk0pd1fjfP7Q58KCnF3/JyDyiqmNWzjXCLBSq/p39EbkybcVwHle3MDqYXRFY09WWwGjb4ifbejhVfyxsTHIgMUZvJzvGEDJdGD+/8WPwsyFcZ81O+BQ4LjXMjJOk/hoEWHKi0A== X-YMail-OSG: d8Lzsn8VM1m_zg12.znszRAviXdL69W7ppJsUmeifBCbuSeJn1smujPnsr8FfWp sJDtDP7Ai_t16KW3RWd9F1bgbWZXocC5Uo92E5RgRju3P8IlvF2QmG4mhm9_TI1kJK9fjMS44WDj flkn8K8FSj2uCO0bOVbhRmbiH79_WB8Ou6vFoIF429O6GnkoIRV_P4kEyEay8bq.573kxNUB1Q.4 cHAEzPx1aGovmRfQkP2jmy.tBa2ug8Ibu5Iyq63REMZrVMQEet5h2Baoc7H181SvVbN6tauo7KzF Yw89uQL41ZxKYWaO42jXTevgnMWoYJMAR0r2E9t1zJzTB2OeJKRiHIqpn7V0h.Zr93b8UP0VNNKW u8DLL8jWpxYyMiqjTTi3eIIkCiuu6Vck2SX7Lt_FzyNpCRpt5SSHAIwygdeFMRtiDhZNHwipsVLz rjIIp6XckzmacgjIr6fTHg.68AlJ3DWBPgS1lNQxTMNq.7YgBCfJstFHECPiA8UgX2LPehx.MEal xFZOKaQA_gEZ6XIZp7oavINVX_kllb.I_yj4cetHZS.AgTFBigEmyZdDviXkA3xSO2evHtQcbPX9 O5hjgO6pkNhpQd4hs9ILBM0XrEZSQ2R2FqQghg9scIZFzt0M3OaKL2EWZNdZMZzdNjis5RaVYJSq yJY46ypYAtS3xlCYG9G.nTmi9Ft0DGPm21QOC8ebbG4TXqf2nx8316b1PcrnHQanzVGx_6VWgT.3 DqNVHEYzfdYEJ07zI3fyA6MIGU5wbQDh4XgKxVD6A8xetVhAG4F3MEIeHnZXWMA4i034pkgRwEmE NEFZ6r2wfdaCTS7GXqxSf0IYLkjTCU0VolxdFnlGKDiMatHqnhpQHvcbn67B_8udnFHo2TA3l.21 UYgKMGh3kZ1EzWvZAZIz7VWzGsSRAG3UpTZbEXOXxIf99JNd3tGHCKfWv6Te_vnCX8_lZLMKsD_Q ybVbNAsrZX3eMxImIv0Onrdgju0QdJNH7vuawT74WGHWSmRbt4GHQBCVsqZvZ.JBvT29fXIFmHLI SJcHslq2jsk039lOILN1vwdZhzHDHxHFIy8HNLvolFSFoOtBkWiQz5dhXUDMubDbUpHPExOvPdDb MBKVqorolbnYzkm5NrH_8bK5clntrEmVkAzIedqMlSH0WZ6tt5_bk8c5AZlzYmAx.lerQ4uJREuL AgAD0j39plZ4cZZoCLrxTRkYuDUGni6ZNLdRIvOO6.2UMnDpa9A53tEBLKlIRmdTBUioI7DwtBE0 m7Xn073G1HWi6iKP5NiMxYjhnAosUe_1LRwtMnlbxhdYC1DDT7bhsRFmzkft3R__7xg5wozsZERU lMltPUMogHR4gzWT.tkJZNcOLtP2iCUt7U5tOPDEcN53KjdRt5E0AeYCp_42yULJ9MXWEvZBr0hG geWTeT06VpmBlMUgvr6cLeEcWgZ2UuPpEcMhDo2EWqdyPp1AjSlZzVPGUjm5p94ac8WDlSzfUxM5 bPSS5codpe2aeA5p5o1id6QcclOBqPcsteozvui98K231kpwg8oQaxHI8JwcjxBlrzI0.yycUDdr 3SnCPBcIzSiePRSfIwFZlUtC7FgNHf8LCF79.0ZHS5JdgALPSJYYpAGLZC6PG00JNUO4XVbn9nWZ e04IlTN7atp0mCPJXi0HIXcuqoJhi.137yFNH2PIVlCVLDHraUUP1AfQSHtqIfOiR11skg5mdJYy I6xVZPCx7.VJZwIFq4NNFgx_QXDRlKpML8je65UeEh0Qzn5W1jixfB7LJPKNaH44kPP3d1.aseFi k2t54CVIGBni32SSsBGIOT_VIUGEqGymPR5qCaiBUPTbsre_g_XBePUouhMIiJDtoZTvOeSVHz2s vTf_2EMrROxF24lA9H1.6_W6UDuPKOcl6uSlMVPhtJq9gd9RPz6N63XlJPc7Vu_gOkEAX8CevtWP 9hYXotxxs_2QuAmeqebZIQ6z7LqjuHCqf9K3JzfY892ZpiMumS1OeTDCKdLfw8V.EknTOUsymL57 Xae1TyFq5Et7X2wAzWBCsGVtWR_BWha0nlMKYtznM__ALTlU3JawfmWr5nOzqWkkZpvH3CrYY788 UyAk303mTpRqWSk7Zpo38Eqd1p6Z.qsRPTOIiSoJleIXY0LouEpgvl_66ojwxlnguQvqE_qCHqs6 Z6XF8yqJfDhtA9D7lvid4V6u6R0LobGw6EYQl905tc0q39_O1FUiMobtEq2zLKnwSn0jm._We0Ry FHNg7l72CfqANFPjTe2_tqmR1GpH9vROkxlNAq3CXyAg39K5exmXMVOWVS.k- X-Sonic-MF: Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic303.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 00:46:01 +0000 Received: by hermes--canary-production-sg3-cfddc4f9d-v5tn7 (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID ed87d184da205c235d87b9e730f9d6a7; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 00:45:58 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Van Ly Subject: Re: bug#54971: 28.1; input method chinese-ctlaub unable to enter =?utf-8?Q?=EF=BF=BDp?= References: <8be4854f-d8d7-dd9d-7c6a-8add55517c64@SDF.ORG> <831qxx16oc.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6clds9c.fsf@gnus.org> <83wnfpyp5d.fsf@gnu.org> <83mtgkzxuh.fsf@gnu.org> <18f3b95c-358-bafc-483-fb738ea0a216@SDF.ORG> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 08:45:54 +0800 In-Reply-To: <18f3b95c-358-bafc-483-fb738ea0a216@SDF.ORG> (Van Ly's message of "Sat, 16 Apr 2022 19:23:14 +0000 (UTC)") Message-ID: <871qxwpmf1.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20048 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 1105 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54971 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 54971@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Van Ly writes: > On Sat, 16 Apr 2022, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >>> Some fields on the database are presented in English by clicking on >>> "ENG" where you find it on the left navigation menu if your web >>> browser frame is wide enough. >> >> I did click on "ENG"; nothing happened. >> > > Maybe you need to activate the Java/Javascript and retrieve an entry > from the database to see a change with "ENG" shown in bold font. > >> Feel free to submit feedback to them. Me, I'd be happy to know where >> we can find an up-to-date version of the file from which we derived >> the CTLau-b5.html file we keep in our repository and from which we >> produce that input method. If you know, or can find out, please tell. > > I don't know. My guess is CTLau-b5.html widen in use from Sidney > Lau's immediate circle. In the meantime, you can use the chinese-py-b5 input method, which is capable of entering that character as "beng1". Not that such a character is likely to be used in real life by anyone. [Your MUA's coding system is weird, so here is that character in Unicode: =E7=A5=8A.] From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Apr 25 04:20:19 2022 Received: (at 54971) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Apr 2022 08:20:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33213 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nitxD-0004q2-4P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2022 04:20:19 -0400 Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:64791) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nitxB-0004pr-CG for 54971@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2022 04:20:17 -0400 Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:van.ly@faeroes.freeshell.org [205.166.94.9]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 23P8KECf022926 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Mon, 25 Apr 2022 08:20:15 GMT Received: from localhost (van.ly@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id 23P8KDlR026355; Mon, 25 Apr 2022 08:20:13 GMT Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2022 08:20:13 +0000 (UTC) From: Van Ly To: Po Lu Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_bug#54971=3A_28=2E1=3B_input_method_chinese-ctl?= =?UTF-8?Q?aub_unable_to_enter_=EF=BF=BDp?= In-Reply-To: <871qxwpmf1.fsf@yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <8be4854f-d8d7-dd9d-7c6a-8add55517c64@SDF.ORG> <831qxx16oc.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6clds9c.fsf@gnus.org> <83wnfpyp5d.fsf@gnu.org> <83mtgkzxuh.fsf@gnu.org> <18f3b95c-358-bafc-483-fb738ea0a216@SDF.ORG> <871qxwpmf1.fsf@yahoo.com> Organization: Sourceware Design File MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-464897244-1650874814=:5205" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54971 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 54971@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-464897244-1650874814=:5205 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sun, 17 Apr 2022, Po Lu wrote:                                 If you know, or can find out, please tell. >> >> I don't know. My guess is CTLau-b5.html widen in use from Sidney >> Lau's immediate circle. > > In the meantime, you can use the chinese-py-b5 input method, which is > capable of entering that character as "beng1". Not that such a > character is likely to be used in real life by anyone. The character "fa3" for hair using chinese-py-b5 input method has the same problem in chinese-ctlaub. That character appears in line one at position six in a music video that launched 5 years ago on Youtube attracting 250M views. The song was performed live at nasa's 2019 break through prize ceremony introduced by Pierce Brosnan. The music video's visual design aesthetics in circulation are thematically Tesla font typesetting the word "passengers" in capitals and the technology is "light years away" which is a translation of the song's name by G.E.M.. > > [Your MUA's coding system is weird, so here is that character in > Unicode: 祊.] > I've set my mail reader, Alpine, to emit UTF-8, can you see theses characters in Unicode? * 祊 * é«® -- vl --0-464897244-1650874814=:5205-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Apr 25 20:39:38 2022 Received: (at 54971) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Apr 2022 00:39:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36377 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nj9Ev-0005N4-Po for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2022 20:39:38 -0400 Received: from sonic306-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.189.84]:35139) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nj9Er-0005Mn-MI for 54971@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2022 20:39:36 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1650933568; bh=ayiXRe2TpDhYoeYPT1JbVOlw19Te1MTaovInXGB6FWg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=GYD97vPsYWcLBkPBtztbacdYhDo4klpWcqjUuplCx1UG4S8Wz6/70NCreHFQJyrGp9fJeJgucmmfzbHmh7lKutLywJmGDKyIEW/kWJ6Uxyfm4hWBcILN3RmlEj/C5F+4zhPtlar7ZVjMAsBCHwWytKcugj7raTwUXEwocPeIIDNfH2LFM2q29uccfmigXoZGN/hDgNkaWBMZYYfaLX3CqsmVNx6Lv9d2h5eSJHj4G6PeiYPq7B42xQX4LPTN1mXtPRK53Re1o+p0hQrMg3M4pwjjFpjeKRemkxe2c+tJIj5amwU1vk/izRTg3pwnMuYyrmA0zaK8e5DN0PigeUkx5w== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1650933568; bh=6FVW7/M++/6Hj53basfDzFGaznThctJWDxzUM5iS3K0=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=soVsiyNveKYBSZpfuUYocXK04GWXb2GRaatWgUNBybX1tJ9DN4pETh/Z+JIjnKaIAt7ZPYG9bZkDspdGbJCLrb3KcGSMnUzDtKcsk1jPvyue4oGrXA/yVbkhNWZMOAXmwWo9rKMXv45JdkksKMbRAHk38UQTmjDoGwjXTl1YCj/GDdRtDordN0UvKdcPfixpECDSRQ0dMDn8JeeDK4/kaXCxTzpTVcjgvK6kkt4mnTj36ZoVDpSV7gr2NP9Pxaecw2gcYwGTmzsX9B6fG2Poc2tPaQruWRL5cB8kLe6CRXmQZmeXKv8O0rl0wZkgIVIJeLg96TPc4vAogOAYQOjVWg== X-YMail-OSG: svW3kFQVM1knwohe1aVsD_1SnOq3gY3rtAQSLpWDIMirepfSU8p6W7go0VxSedy 10EmbwYJEQzbOyhj7g4EqifEWcvI_WmVapS1G4dokGjetCVDt4R328..DrKar2synzFkRblbtYiA o0cnPPA9tgX0p972jXct7ce2qZj6LKJxf9.8YTTU3bz8fQF8R4O58yR3QBHRAhV4xM0jHbs2WKFd AbDG8qt9FzR_dBb28HNj_Jik7yEOtLNVDMevzruXZJ3nI.I9sQfw9E08Uqh_6ozQmgyTzT_HN5Bj shLPiLCPLEOQMyJGsJcP.DkGQsZJbPPisnE958iP7Wf9Vx19w0lk5nh7hcYZ5PmYV98Sj7_DRbJz UawvIvQC7wvgiJaQzg3wPXTjLDZ9KWGuVsUL7PjqO5.HilTnK4C2CPITbHf2KAzvggSDtGp5hl74 Qx.MfzJ9rPkBT9lYXYWxOiGsiw4VbZUE3puaB33iCCNw2pHVpE60SuormwMYCrH.pNlzUffNar3c bu16P6YCJULXGt8RVWxB1yLJRR96_J8oaaTO3HGI.nU_EIkHynKW3KnT2dhEe5FyUKDB7qOZgwuy k2DyZ541oFWEkKl70TeHuw.lxWhGpoypQLieQk4T8m8J2Z11i4d4ddgGnvqBSsotIujEqR2nNI.o ynxQysZLz9lX8UYgcdICzrbwfRmafc4rTU7bFHpwE.cKWDg3JtJMYWCi1Tl3Pv.KHDqBTlFdJgFN OnFKSTOqRPhwnZMBn3hszspTOIE16FiSl.NOemmPbFxxL7NSuvjYNL.p5Xrv5sUz155AQ8Lu5EvA 6D950Fkp.g3SNy3EnzGgHd5ajhaCc94aesbokdH.LzF.SVSPUZIt2a7grdkXM7sCrCwr3h4wZfbZ OmvlYHv.h7OBcIRSQ7_CRf0eAEhB4eqDxFI7urAqLIXxcCjS2wYye49WA1vIr4eJGpJS1laW.3kZ FXlBmcCun4SsL0E4RzK.Hc9hhObqjxDbjH60TMcgn8to6l7Gu7K6xim6y956g_F1AABW9miP2sJ8 IpyqxF0GMWf261LfJZubcATL0cwL5IODwGF85WxcQCioPS09pubirsXoSiZENgsMxqfpfB2UZJr8 oqcp2ppt.DJo9WI_U9pUlksdLX6pBJLtzq5.00AsctorMoeYQLNVJ5KtyceGeSogcypV5OxTu51i vDIqjbceF5pA761pxJwDnE74Con3A5oA3Ns3l0BzjHIjbEDdQAKxX9D6dMja4uRAFap_H1AhBcoN Pvyxv1KQKKChKBD4TFW6Hpk2BrZvMhEeErtphk2YaVWWFCPzYyOYaa1x1dyoLF6kGCjPQNPCiu6D AG3AsM3gJegmtsUjo9GL.ZmUXLmp_YWUaM_z_EJiGZ5idHH3TWKUSLGDKE5Oehn9hstShhOZedc1 fSN980LFNGXdZL6nkWWpae8Iu.JkUfG3qv0eilLYpCVw6nPj75eUk9UIyOPIeU14NfcmI.OACsC_ cTEgX.0WxO6nN1vQ6GjPrNd6olE0AU6zXMx8YANAbV_GpiRxMVxsIOKSjxmUk6pNqyOj9PrVqxap aAtUB2GZntNdNOXQyMyWPRtEu7zBqL6Ye5Me5JjZV1m2IrWzeX0qPMpW2.do65CudkVL4UnCqE6l UMXvMROTGJsemK6t9e3snmzn4O3jUhYu5YBXjZyoxAyGHXCWypiM1QghJ1SPPaS87GxIDLi2X0Ar T5cxz0rmrw3fASdb6k1CzMgC6HQOaxu8TjIRsEXqFdObqi3iksWuJohAwVE_MYoDsi.q2AaukUqN JC5C_x9zyJYS_Z0kV8HISxPb1FBJFuqXFMN6SaMA_BEY8AQnFMHdD7OiiLgZC_kYoqgnPlOmqOV2 f4bHrCoyXF3X74KoJYLCjWertGgN4MbAmT8oyjE6CR0Qoc.f4rLFH6cLWzXNZEOqGpLWOfEWDcxn Y.YA_K6qpYy5CsMGt0E8XOdMcW3rnrnWYGCFZF3Y8CP0aoYru2EPvJ9826xOzO_VNH3ifD3qmt7y jo_RiIvBQnmfoJ904_xGA.O39jftkOrsKIWIJQSPu5il0B5OyyDp5DuZkxK156qAj3nrJWz0pMfv G_5jkZ3fnDZxt4y6hrzxP5hCQdLbHwUocB2FX_kgFE45M7ka_HREcIpGhEXtw6aFCKA_EqDKc.lB 1FOzIbhjp6djJFLNef.yypU0KbmfSVdHbexY.gs.6AclF7q5yRdOEi6gtNsZi.uqwatlM61xD_jA vLmkTmO.NWXWPEXcTPZoEf.HB1OVvJCXSnvX3uLbZlqj3A1EnLwS.RjEcOw-- X-Sonic-MF: Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic306.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 00:39:28 +0000 Received: by hermes--canary-production-sg3-6589f79784-6d8vh (Yahoo Inc. Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 394d6700ed502fc11805dd982594203e; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 00:39:22 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Van Ly Subject: Re: bug#54971: 28.1; input method chinese-ctlaub unable to enter =?utf-8?Q?=EF=BF=BDp?= References: <8be4854f-d8d7-dd9d-7c6a-8add55517c64@SDF.ORG> <831qxx16oc.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6clds9c.fsf@gnus.org> <83wnfpyp5d.fsf@gnu.org> <83mtgkzxuh.fsf@gnu.org> <18f3b95c-358-bafc-483-fb738ea0a216@SDF.ORG> <871qxwpmf1.fsf@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2022 08:39:17 +0800 In-Reply-To: (Van Ly's message of "Mon, 25 Apr 2022 08:20:13 +0000 (UTC)") Message-ID: <87mtg84r0q.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20118 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 680 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54971 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 54971@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Van Ly writes: > The character "fa3" for hair using chinese-py-b5 input method has the > same problem in chinese-ctlaub. That character appears in line one at > position six in a music video that launched 5 years ago on Youtube > attracting 250M views. The song was performed live at nasa's 2019 > break through prize ceremony introduced by Pierce Brosnan. The music > video's visual design aesthetics in circulation are thematically Tesla > font typesetting the word "passengers" in capitals and the technology > is "light years away" which is a translation of the song's name by > G.E.M.. What problem do you refer to by "the same problem"? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 26 01:53:34 2022 Received: (at 54971) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Apr 2022 05:53:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36629 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1njE8k-0005Dz-FR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 01:53:34 -0400 Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:53693) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1njE8i-0005Dq-O0 for 54971@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 01:53:33 -0400 Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:van.ly@faeroes.freeshell.org [205.166.94.9]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 23Q5rUb9008080 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Tue, 26 Apr 2022 05:53:30 GMT Received: from localhost (van.ly@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id 23Q5rTCZ006262; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 05:53:29 GMT Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2022 05:53:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Van Ly To: Po Lu Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_bug#54971=3A_28=2E1=3B_input_method_chinese-ctl?= =?UTF-8?Q?aub_unable_to_enter_=EF=BF=BDp?= In-Reply-To: <87mtg84r0q.fsf@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1ad85231-d582-70d7-18a0-9f8c23f9f5e9@SDF.ORG> References: <8be4854f-d8d7-dd9d-7c6a-8add55517c64@SDF.ORG> <831qxx16oc.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6clds9c.fsf@gnus.org> <83wnfpyp5d.fsf@gnu.org> <83mtgkzxuh.fsf@gnu.org> <18f3b95c-358-bafc-483-fb738ea0a216@SDF.ORG> <871qxwpmf1.fsf@yahoo.com> <87mtg84r0q.fsf@yahoo.com> Organization: Sourceware Design File MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54971 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 54971@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Tue, 26 Apr 2022, Po Lu wrote: > What problem do you refer to by "the same problem"? chinese-ctlaub is unable to enter Chinese character. CTLau-b5.html is in need of an update to at least catchup to what chinese-py-b5 uses. chinese-py-b5 is able to enter two example characters chinese-ctlaub is unable to * One example is an old character. "beng1" * Another example is a character in circulation in pop culture. "fa3" The humanum mfcc database has candidate values from its Sidney Lau scheme to fill in CTLau-b5.html gaps. -- vl From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 26 02:36:10 2022 Received: (at 54971) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Apr 2022 06:36:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36650 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1njEny-0006FL-FO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 02:36:10 -0400 Received: from sonic313-10.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.185.33]:39618) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1njEnw-0006F9-VP for 54971@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 02:36:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1650954963; bh=fmxqCp39ej7gXYWGUrUIfQP7M8veU9rISIHrn9tN5dE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=NFgK2SWM91XM3dqO2z+RT9bPpIPLfHc6MZS7AMESUeRBtjxQt24vrVLx0k2Yxp3BKhZD5LtsddwmKETFzhTyHTxqzrYdjakYDuI6jAUdKEZhWB7X3lvaRryOeG0ozkh0pPQsor90OtKgDpU9HcpuT3bxFY17714Bf2gFPxNIvl75mGIqu0f4N2KOfsTiBaGA/2drx3n1aksw+aYuXPd+W4SL29VCbD1tqO48+lC1ERlcwvFJ+0LO4i4iVF/AbGpSw2Zv527pwvVz3u225necH7+wno2grs+sbfB1u9mMU4SfUC2kcMOWgVTs6G16qUFLle54XZKn00kYQfBhikmTdQ== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1650954963; bh=BTLB/3UGdgxbKO3tBz1lLmHP5dwHD8FqKr01+VkuBT4=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=q3VpVj7nafPvoixSEgKV2B7tkZpEwNL1+jGPVQpqOcjNU14YGa6fguoL3gfm1rcHJT/Z7ynvwGUuR0hFLYGMGg8pC36wq1UhACwt3PCCB2Hjgy9AdkA61lIzNMKCCpwRCoEejFsC7v5hGKDa4ac8IC62Q22bw/7EfuwuGx3nWQhqxKPTa8BRtAM9lLpRIDuRCWc54Owml7hpiH7FV/iPbnfZ4j7wldiDzCJKrasmxhKjBZOrf6EgUUPhrX8u2kRL85vokWZxKZBLY4DkWicHjVil/zW0z01IxCed6Peh47drGNg+Oj7DR9RGsNy4lqHCF84FOyS5pH+Oh3racOgDkA== X-YMail-OSG: RHMdk.sVM1nkaz.h4QNfRLL8jxrpUKAMq27ASgHLACQo73c0Y0GPpRt957D0INP FQDwakgpnijb934z1iGOdL1_RdGhp45qvU2jhAD5pV74tALn55PZ0TNTKuwC6PY6y5In6.yUVZtf powt9pSGIEdoVR_MKiMPW3bICYqly9ShsR9kOZPiwvcISf7obO2gXZnNrv6WiR_zsSf1h.ItC9e_ LKiN9uYFavHJE6XuZ3G.DngdHyWDHkr19rT8bIFwo2Loa8xOimTZO_5WWPpzMTDdQg6fMQiR8dry VnIDTULZL9r2ZCgA_jazw7iYkboYDWTscpLFTCt9YhpUUKrIJDtpEnrlp941HsaOu8hOqtRSK5GT mOuQI87euQa9GP37oev4M.ohGf5N0mCs7qz4OSxV_ZDu4PZSy5VPILM6hSZkxwvNj5rfloY8FleZ 6UYFpn0qa.OJVBqLCKkMlDKVBSIZydbcQAIoB4JteC6ThCI.MYzWd4Q0uCiKrCfWoBSPA0YTeieJ oV2T9rqX9OBJczHDpu9v7hXTBT9tW8A.tbvrew7wRfr7Rb3wE1BbFSYXwLtGG6EX4mi8vvjlhY65 DpfJMvqVmrSFGOwihxYiqSbKvTLFD8adn0hAk3I9egiA04HnkQsc.h1kdbJxCaM_icN.8LTfniFF vkbH3S8q7b3i0.LeX7CxWemhEuZjLz00wsoDWdU4RVtrGmhYTuP1h2rvmCbbstEY8_VRcqFwT0A2 AO4ZMIxKcsSmtFleh0Bln.ywc4e77W5y3BAN1vQ8vOnsMEd5nSEGtfg4UhcF_.V2XDmmB2FtA5Qp 1WgwWHww10.2Ln53vCDfpIyPrwZVfFWiVOG1_2mbnafSiUFvlT5kY8cC1NLvg6ntcLR05yJQ6UYu bltOh03pRomJscK_ghWcXQDY3GtHmvMndga6DROAeG03sQvIlwj_7mqdG58BMyZolJ0M0uc7VMgl Fo_gDIw4VW45Pdf_XwT106AxCoOuxcZy0fLGKywp1lVFxBazkgfga1IxVmaVOAez7DsiBRKDbfk8 aw0.k_z9c66DvFos0GhtYlo7RlBUIdhRZ0g63JTTADkWTj_wKySJXF7kaTLREnlM3FIlSA.C0x5_ n_FCO6KFxvzv6Y5kwwEJx5rBJgQGl_Qzbq4aDlkkbTzXu7W6a07VyAHCCNoqVaTEdph76GmOYYNQ qyt6rvgn076Fm86zfxJpOX_ySQH7I5BubPmKx0uzvvQDMSQ1oAOD6k9xPN083gDWxjdzmDdvYeNw SbbyfX5catnslASK5bOMZtwprLl6AQjeML6aHoiY_N..SPItrfTwkOAFxAF5R03b18xvXyk5hPdA i1u9JILuAVRM7MPR3iQ0rWlmMTi0WprS_YLv8rOMcgMbpEUpSQWwN7jDLr.AQC2sUSHUIAZYqwE9 5ZfHzK0XxVYH6pvo2vCKi5W8j2w_wjvGBTIKC7OugSkBvTnwf7L3_wjZH16hRK_BkFUquMSQiuFC D3gX2x6MdxhyfJxpJaXl.wgWM6KV1oRy_Hv3tLBL59TMR.GCXQf8226nkecodDVQ0_gpnVw0VBCT Fun2gyFPm0DvUL9NXINIMS.C8UCjuqpWmPa842_9TFYEleATGFjTYaec4YQJ7hBs0wG9qnAYbyZg LxNOJscBUgt.MMG4pV.nReOjfvDgBp1JrDvf466ViDHmWtC0q.0f5RQJgv1u2CthXNMIG_Qig.KV GK9Og.5ly9lAi7Q03ZpKhWXAlrivdpRHZDLRuIQTBFdS1OcYNVqLSlZsNRXqWZ72Md3Pt40JqUv_ quj3fESnZIWEt2BugTrh6gIYHP65Rm8SYcM5P0SB.e4UK5RV5nEWmmNCocveUbd7BN3YSjvaBZ8k APXMCP8BJFj7i7KdUp4cq6sRDtYIC5e3fKO0pK7CWVLTvalsJphvNxXda5PTq1FNKcO0nCGz4srM ZDDikTbUDeTKJP9yiVKn22ax_Tj86Nsx2f7.l_8v9h.JRdZgMxKZdwj5LG5y_wuPsCqiSVwNnJWS _2uQ39IzG2q4MeSmHOFApESA9q28ImwsWlPBnB1_HNFfdIwA6F15G55ryn8yFr8_pI4Zajblly91 E3dLPFiWmFoIJ7j2GlCK5pUVttU.XSz.ABfBs9S9ASjQZppXWDPgfhWiY7s6.kjy8gFYsaKyhi9t l2eN9v7cgDeeBNCOF2fiUgPf3ahQZfqPd.5sWEK5cBWvDAXusqKeKgwFNiWBWquvoDlIg5MYhHbS ZXV0YDvB5OSeazaUn3SHFxWFURRDSMuzirXCShtMqPkZGvapYstEisXV03JwY X-Sonic-MF: Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic313.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 06:36:03 +0000 Received: by hermes--canary-production-sg3-6589f79784-6d8vh (Yahoo Inc. Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 778174371ffbbd5aa9bc4300b622e3e3; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 06:35:57 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Van Ly Subject: Re: bug#54971: 28.1; input method chinese-ctlaub unable to enter =?utf-8?Q?=EF=BF=BDp?= References: <8be4854f-d8d7-dd9d-7c6a-8add55517c64@SDF.ORG> <831qxx16oc.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6clds9c.fsf@gnus.org> <83wnfpyp5d.fsf@gnu.org> <83mtgkzxuh.fsf@gnu.org> <18f3b95c-358-bafc-483-fb738ea0a216@SDF.ORG> <871qxwpmf1.fsf@yahoo.com> <87mtg84r0q.fsf@yahoo.com> <1ad85231-d582-70d7-18a0-9f8c23f9f5e9@SDF.ORG> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2022 14:35:52 +0800 In-Reply-To: <1ad85231-d582-70d7-18a0-9f8c23f9f5e9@SDF.ORG> (Van Ly's message of "Tue, 26 Apr 2022 05:53:29 +0000 (UTC)") Message-ID: <875ymw4aif.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20118 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 603 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54971 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 54971@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Van Ly writes: > chinese-ctlaub is unable to enter Chinese character. chinese-ctlaub is a Cantonese input method, and it isn't fair to expect it to have every character that chinese-py has (and vice versa.) > CTLau-b5.html is in need of an update to at least catchup to what > chinese-py-b5 uses. chinese-py-b5 is a standard Chinese input method. They input different dialects of Chinese, which have different characters, pronunciations and romanizations, so there is no way to update the chinese-ctlau(b) input methods with the information used by any other Chinese input method. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 26 10:31:51 2022 Received: (at 54971) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Apr 2022 14:31:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40227 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1njMEJ-0004tG-Nx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 10:31:51 -0400 Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:61779) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1njMEI-0004t7-Di for 54971@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 10:31:50 -0400 Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:van.ly@faeroes.freeshell.org [205.166.94.9]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 23QEVmMl003325 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Tue, 26 Apr 2022 14:31:49 GMT Received: from localhost (van.ly@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id 23QEVmcE025262; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 14:31:48 GMT Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2022 14:31:48 +0000 (UTC) From: Van Ly To: Po Lu Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_bug#54971=3A_28=2E1=3B_input_method_chinese-ctl?= =?UTF-8?Q?aub_unable_to_enter_=EF=BF=BDp?= In-Reply-To: <875ymw4aif.fsf@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2a1e3959-bb6-78c-151e-81957abcee5a@SDF.ORG> References: <8be4854f-d8d7-dd9d-7c6a-8add55517c64@SDF.ORG> <831qxx16oc.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6clds9c.fsf@gnus.org> <83wnfpyp5d.fsf@gnu.org> <83mtgkzxuh.fsf@gnu.org> <18f3b95c-358-bafc-483-fb738ea0a216@SDF.ORG> <871qxwpmf1.fsf@yahoo.com> <87mtg84r0q.fsf@yahoo.com> <1ad85231-d582-70d7-18a0-9f8c23f9f5e9@SDF.ORG> <875ymw4aif.fsf@yahoo.com> Organization: Sourceware Design File MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54971 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 54971@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Tue, 26 Apr 2022, Po Lu wrote: > chinese-ctlaub is a Cantonese input method, and it isn't fair to expect > it to have every character that chinese-py has (and vice versa.) Information in the tone and graph is lost going in the direction chinese-ctlaub || chinese-py-b5 > chinese-py is how I understand things. -- vl From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 26 20:38:21 2022 Received: (at 54971) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Apr 2022 00:38:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40797 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1njVhF-00066A-Jj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 20:38:21 -0400 Received: from sonic301-1.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com ([74.6.129.40]:34443) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1njVhE-00065x-4b for 54971@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2022 20:38:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1651019894; bh=mYy5+sX4isRYl/+v0ZRKYVzeae3eKQssnpdPDoMN9Hc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=ACUgPHvQz8glNYEa3qMojU7GezqLcRLI2M0C7jUoAnxRBJKDlmXmLfPAx95mMNgGNGOs5x7MGexd3wjRwblJlKb2/eimNNeF1OIqdo8RGcE2yv8yQaSfqY19TEsUi02MxrOvpC5j/mzodom5i8dhZ9vLQp6QX1+dW8Lpy2jg5SDPitSnpaYLb9H8qRw5JKkSkBFe+wPym7ES/IBFUzTT608+p7mMTX8s7ffkFkgTULrVeAWXXxSGIw6N4LNpVuwEUsVvDJuSkZ5yxuuMf4m82DstFUGG9HqM4hgIKDdyiFltbTysPbiL4w+UbIZ0dgwVM4JSQu5D0wyQ5TBpBFYX/Q== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1651019894; bh=CihkwWYS/FzY9TTkM47O202LBv2YtMFmQ2+8hIhX9yt=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=LR9evhcNbqONf9HN+h81iw+mvmMlU63pBfGOI4Rwi7OuWAfgZ8USl2cll9i/pq9SRaQz5Umd6QAjHH/K4/LuzVIsgOci7cWMAlMyCXDzCULOdEMnV5+7oQmqaRsjtLNU9/CBZYEZtGOyJpC2WOC0mWf5H/FxBp9Ig/2JySbrUf3YBcjfs8SVsvXY7uxwkH8DbJY7lZAHZgPDMdeaOZQaNfpxoqP8Y9XWix80lo8iZ5yv19SQl2eHDNRmz5sf7SgXK8W7VSF8kuT2MxVVi3oq+yHvbDFZb9DdMBVnjfc7uzUIhDa5nR9L5haovyBE6eGbCZ86F86MVQP+zHpmqKq3NQ== X-YMail-OSG: JjsnJ.0VM1nZ5AVZBJM8_wCIjvTwOmH820WsRq2r3oqtkCo6yOvkLcrN_VXf7qe FhzXcccIcj7dsnl_7_0Zzo0oXCrIqKJbqf7VjfE_Opj2EhVxL2DC2ofAp_XipmLx4EoP16veXaZ5 qy9.Mnzm7M.Tkqu9o6TQKBaztAgV_NlRQiGQSZOARl9A4BZLkJeUYk68ZUmuE41DxplwZV._yoIS zbhCiYxMX.vNIP9XuBBAVd2J9q3totd3x5Ba65dXUnmJkuq_T882S2SJCgajc_h2WHc79dsZ0pSv 9jiPqC5J.lXAnazxZhmk_5cGvQtsqDpYWPBQupIMXPS4QlknWBiu0N2Ia4PdVyN0G_jQyyWW5O5K rS6CeVdNlCn2ASVhIb2AA2YQDP3G9XyaXomZHz1moyjtDXIojtDCjz8p7aUaadHd.vzXsc7h_nMM cVM_ga5ndKT3KhYp5P7Ieqks9POEDz__t3fDGEpdaLrlktoAgHsHSsbNKk3b9EEIhNPqXpJ3.VBu bjKcVD9i.zlveKkFW0shkzEmrgWmsKrppzuzHyvRRRADUNEJtoxvyNK1KzW0merSyZkitn42rS4O AUM506aLciFYLmIgcHbYIBrgG9mZRb3H9nKj12QbvdJyZRHT3MGB6wFRU9oW686jsEaY4RNFcjV2 GZws6UR5nSfooj2jIlsbXv2XXYP2e0PU0FwmyIfXwB0Jok4Jm0Iae7j5BiTkAkTvnjcNRWYSk62B AczMsJeieGePDgsWy6woRMjJ9lzygKOStTCHuN4DBssRx3.1mFSxX5Sa5JN.ddy8f4QMQjeBFaxQ xvm_HLRu5QMpn1xPBR.2reFDxMWX3paf1v6SUgKYkd7RmR9Zp2XUXP.cZg2ohmgOdGLHYVObGbQU 3OR2D9gc5vxKF8RQhKCFk2MTC8tnJHBiWz9H7exfRj.gcXotYkm1l.kFh5kVnCZLCHMyRZLFFeoq 0v5JUlG040QBdw7yR7Go38EsKlNlqUyCwSbqSPx8oRWFxYkDo.Dmn0ft2QlHvxgx8UChJjBEvpyr 40.UhTnyDDnKBaqruJenVGwiNUZlHRc9OVp4dcMafG2aPJLukKovKDq1DIbkJ5fozschEeHnXeCb r23vjdnqL05IYdBdN.5FnBUYk1T17z7Y4YxybeNU3ResnLcchMjitJE..ya06Rhm5A2wL8KwWyTc p1uo_L2WHX4tK2EGyIdwtugd0Df__HobBbpEejYirPycc.lR_Xlt3coJcQddKA.7FG1UkwqLYtcl Dn5zlZ9al7oad54oKv4.kDokTuJU26Ld.DXOZL7ItDDIopW3A_n3fSp0ymLS7o3GnqCE4NfY4.SV an0VKbUgavxUH4vxv77DkCDBQQv_ncfFpgZeShii_1wBjqe3K5R.qhrLhOdqaIaT7M41ftN1YD63 W.DJGrJ2mxGRj2EXZVPHOv7cuylLdGIJyPwQ84eokxO90zBbZIu0PQE.Jml_drabf0R9M_ngDAlO N_z4yQVMeGZJupmCWzV79RFBm4yS0RYQSBZ2i2kGB6xKhJFtpJo.4BjuK_gdQibJBfsu4ilQxTxh rAJjKXT2sBo2uuXW3d50PdirWsldFpB7vDHTk_R83kd2HHgCFWatXjKbjNp5iAuEuQdwaj0CZyuR yZZw.0B1iU_59d7qJqlhDonZF160QtuRzKG59ALyADuQhAraadNKxaEHdTDDjKLOHrngt7aVYh.R oALcJ2k8ek0Ct7U3H0GLnkF_RgA5Cdp.mupA2RMGlnQL9hQZIDOXuDw7z0brvAEge.pnll.fTCoJ T6k6sTur_U4VcPfrt4CdTwaUiEFHWEByytHV1_F.6ThEIQdK0YAL1_uDx37u8YQVzM1h5DVpRDoA 62F93IZWfQ6EvDFwqrESTLC0OEryIRh2kl0XxyDngBEhqmDcueQurYPCAUazMNgxMeeYYtanPLH6 9VMhhWIcJ.OhNfICTpkBRerSaxJ890SHGO_3DrzoVk4GYGsR2Z9sd4C4jWPDj_ugFisea7PLkyo7 .DdFVksMKKiR3I_5dz.eKsd6HN19AATc4iOn5njOTmEb8FPNf.8iuj_cC4PzliQxUrpWY4_0xY68 EH1dk0lKr89T6XbM0Qq5CtftVUWm4FGqtTSm_OTwq.s2qbMQrreLJd5NGoTehg.In3oacgialwsj yYNjo5WqsouiCEGvCPOxwgIpekgswlZELXVYcULa4ZsHmOBd2C25IarveptJ0Di15QlDqxGSr9Kd XFrZe.KAwJxgkuPPEGSZwG4qbttphDm22bs6HUgmtMFDd1yz8iasZF0wenkHF X-Sonic-MF: Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic301.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Wed, 27 Apr 2022 00:38:14 +0000 Received: by hermes--canary-production-sg3-795d7b4d54-q68ds (Yahoo Inc. Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 7cc22dd0aedd8ee28a46577a1502ca61; Wed, 27 Apr 2022 00:38:10 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Van Ly Subject: Re: bug#54971: 28.1; input method chinese-ctlaub unable to enter =?utf-8?Q?=EF=BF=BDp?= References: <8be4854f-d8d7-dd9d-7c6a-8add55517c64@SDF.ORG> <831qxx16oc.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6clds9c.fsf@gnus.org> <83wnfpyp5d.fsf@gnu.org> <83mtgkzxuh.fsf@gnu.org> <18f3b95c-358-bafc-483-fb738ea0a216@SDF.ORG> <871qxwpmf1.fsf@yahoo.com> <87mtg84r0q.fsf@yahoo.com> <1ad85231-d582-70d7-18a0-9f8c23f9f5e9@SDF.ORG> <875ymw4aif.fsf@yahoo.com> <2a1e3959-bb6-78c-151e-81957abcee5a@SDF.ORG> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2022 08:38:05 +0800 In-Reply-To: <2a1e3959-bb6-78c-151e-81957abcee5a@SDF.ORG> (Van Ly's message of "Tue, 26 Apr 2022 14:31:48 +0000 (UTC)") Message-ID: <877d7b2weq.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20118 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 354 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54971 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 54971@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Van Ly writes: > Information in the tone and graph is lost going in the direction > > chinese-ctlaub || chinese-py-b5 > chinese-py > > is how I understand things. I don't understand what you're talking about, but chinese-ctlaub is not related to chinese-py at all. Comparing them is like comparing a Dutch keyboard to a German one.