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[108.26.204.101]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o20-20020a05620a229400b0069c70250fe5sm3048882qkh.55.2022.04.15.17.04.41 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 15 Apr 2022 17:04:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Howard Melman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) Subject: 28.1; outline-minor-mode-cycle-filter docstring is awkward Message-Id: Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 20:04:40 -0400 To: GNU Emacs X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::732; envelope-from=hmelman@gmail.com; helo=mail-qk1-x732.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) The docstring of outline-minor-mode-cycle-filter says it filters out positions available for cycling. But the options the user has (via customize) describe the places on the heading that will remain for cycling. (defcustom outline-minor-mode-cycle-filter nil "Filter out positions on the heading available for cycling." :type '(choice (const :tag "Everywhere" nil) (const :tag "At line beginning" bolp) (const :tag "Not at line beginning" (lambda () (not (bolp)))) (const :tag "At line end" eolp) (function :tag "Custom filter")) :version "28.1") E.g., if I choose "At line beginning" then cycling works if point is at the beginning of line. But the doc sounds to me like it shouldn't work at that location. Maybe it should be something like: "Allowed heading positions available for cycling." And I think it should probably mention that this means other positions in the heading are allowed for indenting or tabbing, but I'm not sure how to phrase that in a way that works if people rebind commands to different keys. Howard In GNU Emacs 28.1 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin20.6.0, Carbon Version = 164 AppKit 2022.6) of 2022-04-09 built on Mac-1649520554451.local Repository revision: ee79b048bbb2fd4a962dfb2204cc7a2f0d5237d8 Repository branch: 28.1-mac-9.0-CI Windowing system distributor 'Apple Inc.', version 11.6.5 System Description: macOS 11.6.5 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 16 03:57:41 2022 Received: (at 54967-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Apr 2022 07:57:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60674 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nfdJJ-0001D7-Gy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 03:57:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54866) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nfdJE-0001Cp-R9 for 54967-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 03:57:36 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:57130) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfdJ9-0001gZ-HO; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 03:57:27 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=VgTycfZPKMoiu2n/+4pJIPOZCE/KslkZvINmS/lVPLs=; b=cQ2R9+JtGQ3A JoC5WAscpnZ8dAFuWIYIpnjj4f8bMdHPjg73f+wgo/kbfuuG2uGa8w03jGPXr/6BVoqgb35u64M1l nUyr3OmY7N/1FuJZpSCjqsnAiXiwdzWJlZynI7TtlgjzoqdMk/WY2JiqKbZVPjLFvJnn9gl2VlWKo D950TtIYRpUSYExAme5NtHnCfILYStyO0s/2zv1/3gwJuqdTIGmL9+3Xta0dYndlcEu0oSFbHliUj HT6wHQneEqJMcSAl2CCsGlmSUYV/ezw0s7Vv9cF4pEzfNu3GV9olRADskvg13rpFJ/RO6cjxSIBdm muQCliWNymoXSZ31fS4whQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3950 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfdJ9-0002vH-1G; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 03:57:27 -0400 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 10:57:41 +0300 Message-Id: <83ilr91mve.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Howard Melman In-Reply-To: (message from Howard Melman on Fri, 15 Apr 2022 20:04:40 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#54967: 28.1; outline-minor-mode-cycle-filter docstring is awkward References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54967-done Cc: 54967-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Howard Melman > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 20:04:40 -0400 > > The docstring of outline-minor-mode-cycle-filter says it > filters out positions available for cycling. But the > options the user has (via customize) describe the places on > the heading that will remain for cycling. > > (defcustom outline-minor-mode-cycle-filter nil > "Filter out positions on the heading available for cycling." > :type '(choice (const :tag "Everywhere" nil) > (const :tag "At line beginning" bolp) > (const :tag "Not at line beginning" > (lambda () (not (bolp)))) > (const :tag "At line end" eolp) > (function :tag "Custom filter")) > :version "28.1") > > E.g., if I choose "At line beginning" then cycling works if > point is at the beginning of line. But the doc sounds to > me like it shouldn't work at that location. Thanks, I fixed the doc string of this option (and some other related ones) for Emacs 28.2. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:08 2022 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Apr 2022 11:35:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60880 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nfgho-0002qi-F5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 07:35:08 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:42514) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nfghm-0002qa-SW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 07:35:07 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49508) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfghm-000118-NQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 07:35:06 -0400 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:45734) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfghl-0000W0-6V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 07:35:06 -0400 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nfghi-0002Q4-En for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 13:35:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Howard Melman Subject: Re: bug#54967: 28.1; outline-minor-mode-cycle-filter docstring is awkward Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 07:30:50 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83ilr91mve.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.1 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:WDRA2xpOLqLaZj1vMP/m6eqyIUk= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 5 X-Spam_score: 0.5 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> The docstring of outline-minor-mode-cycle-filter > > Thanks, I fixed the doc string of this option (and some > other related ones) for Emacs 28.2. 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