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[108.26.204.101]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a23-20020a05620a103700b00699d49c511dsm2923973qkk.104.2022.04.15.12.48.29 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 15 Apr 2022 12:48:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Howard Melman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) Subject: 28.1; bindings for widget-describe and button-describe Message-Id: <7BC32E88-3705-4DFB-A94F-9BD5F44EE8B1@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 15:48:28 -0400 To: GNU Emacs X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::f30; envelope-from=hmelman@gmail.com; helo=mail-qv1-xf30.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Maybe I'm missing something but I see that Emacs 28.1 added functions widget-describe and button-describe that offer help when point is on one of these things, but there's no binding for them. I think that some key, perhaps C-h or ? or something should invoke these when point is on them. Maybe it should be integrated with display-local-help on `C-h .' ? Howard In GNU Emacs 28.1 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin20.6.0, Carbon Version = 164 AppKit 2022.6) of 2022-04-09 built on Mac-1649520554451.local Repository revision: ee79b048bbb2fd4a962dfb2204cc7a2f0d5237d8 Repository branch: 28.1-mac-9.0-CI Windowing system distributor 'Apple Inc.', version 11.6.5 System Description: macOS 11.6.5 Configured using: 'configure --with-mac = --enable-locallisppath=3D/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/opt/homebrew/sh= are/emacs/site-lisp = --enable-mac-app=3D/Users/runner/work/homebrew-emacsmacport/homebrew-emacs= macport/build-scripts/emacs-source/tmproot = --prefix=3D/Users/runner/work/homebrew-emacsmacport/homebrew-emacsmacport/= build-scripts/emacs-source/tmproot --enable-mac-self-contained --with-modules' Configured features: ACL GMP GNUTLS JSON LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY KQUEUE PDUMPER THREADS TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS XIM ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: ELisp/l Minor modes in effect: 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Howard Melman writes: > Maybe I'm missing something but I see that Emacs 28.1 added > functions widget-describe and button-describe that offer > help when point is on one of these things, but there's no > binding for them. [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54963 Cc: 54963@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Howard Melman writes: > Maybe I'm missing something but I see that Emacs 28.1 added > functions widget-describe and button-describe that offer > help when point is on one of these things, but there's no > binding for them. > > I think that some key, perhaps C-h or ? or something should > invoke these when point is on them. Maybe it should be > integrated with display-local-help on `C-h .' ? `C-u C-x =3D' does mention the presence of a button: Here is a =E2=80=98help-character-set=E2=80=99 button labeled =E2=80=98asci= i=E2=80=99, but doesn't actually link to `button-describe', which should be fixed, at least. Integrating with `C-h .' might be possible -- for instance, `C-u C-h .' might run button/widget-describe? I think having plain `C-h .' do so would be confusing, since buttons commonly have a help text, and that's what `C-h .' shows. Or put this somewhere else. Anybody got any opinions? --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 16 10:16:54 2022 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Apr 2022 14:16:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33975 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nfjEL-0000wZ-V2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 10:16:54 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:33228) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nfjEL-0000wL-0i for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 10:16:53 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=r/aswxHkHUbV+JLvu5jJkBljEU6LknU0c2OpsJp0TF4=; b=TVxH0hqP+6HCzyragIMewLHqCV WRyOYMdO34IfqINpsH2sGV2CV7zUl9h+6U+GH6xqKn3dcxqv88nVklHQxZLAvN9DeqO06ooXu+Cdg OPhdOcb+bWBSYHWoK5psIEU9U8MgfEhlvt2r2N4dgYqHGa2OICLiHHswP2xo+XI9RxHo=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nfjEC-0000aP-Mc for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:16:46 +0200 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:16:44 +0200 Message-Id: <87ilr9dsfn.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #54963 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: tags 54963 + moreinfo quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 54963 + moreinfo quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 24 07:54:01 2022 Received: (at 54963) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Apr 2022 11:54:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57761 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1niaoT-0002l4-7b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2022 07:54:01 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:39420) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1niaoN-0002kl-PN for 54963@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2022 07:54:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=qpEV7AH6a1k5fFPcrrTEHyWXN9132n9dw3hLh5KgFj8=; b=RbiXH+hZ8toXupc7oLtJW0lHfY kCCW6wJkkVR1MWAKK43YRBrq0pNnc4UANhvx1o4m6o241Ax6zEyBh0u94ceeMQ4M/lXSO4QQ8SyWg ohsTBY+NfJUt+IOtIXYS10uFIaPHjBfp0K2ThP+xeLpxMA790noHdMonY04FYL1Y9abY=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1niaoE-0005KX-T5; Sun, 24 Apr 2022 13:53:49 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Howard Melman Subject: Re: bug#54963: 28.1; bindings for widget-describe and button-describe References: <7BC32E88-3705-4DFB-A94F-9BD5F44EE8B1@gmail.com> <8735idfk0u.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: Et Cetera's _Deutsche Elektronische Music 4 (2)_: "Mellodrama 2a" Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2022 13:53:46 +0200 In-Reply-To: <8735idfk0u.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 16 Apr 2022 11:35:29 +0200") Message-ID: <87ee1md7ed.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Integrating with `C-h .' might be possible -- for instance, `C-u C-h .' > might run button/widget-describe? I think having plain `C-h .' do so > would be confusing, since buttons commonly have a hel [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54963 Cc: 54963@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Integrating with `C-h .' might be possible -- for instance, `C-u C-h .' > might run button/widget-describe? I think having plain `C-h .' do so > would be confusing, since buttons commonly have a help text, and that's > what `C-h .' shows. > > Or put this somewhere else. Anybody got any opinions? Nobody has suggestions, so I went ahead and did this in Emacs 29. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 24 07:54:07 2022 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Apr 2022 11:54:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57764 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1niaoY-0002le-JI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2022 07:54:06 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:39434) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1niaoT-0002kr-5O for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2022 07:54:01 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=z8IMrJdqvP2Yq1MUw5slEHVPpAOhvHTmbowwL52Xmak=; b=Gn1UOUU4qhUjthKq0DUDKp728/ IHJNM3wNpxSiUhbhTyL8OSbfCBSEvN3pz6VEY2kmEm8ea5/68mha2TwW+9YgT376dvLCTWy51qyYy 1cmAbDp/iePopzqf7P0IvenGsLKJnOaGmjd0zE3ZZKqzYtmnbP0ogAM0Fkc+jk8S2N2A=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1niaoL-0005Kf-Jz for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2022 13:53:55 +0200 Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2022 13:53:53 +0200 Message-Id: <87czh6d7e6.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #54963 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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