From unknown Fri Jun 20 18:23:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#54797: 27.1; "Old-style backquotes detected!" when there are no backquotes. 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Long version: My code was evaluating happily yesterday (on what much have been an old version of Emacs) but came up with that error on 27.1 today.=C2=A0 It turne= d out I had "(, " in a few places. They should have been "(* ", (OCR failure) so I suppose I should thank the error message for helping me find those... but it's a confusing message when source doesn't contain any backquotes! (I spent a while Googling to find out what was happening but only found cases of people getting the error message whose code *did* contain a backquote.) In GNU Emacs 27.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-cygwin) =C2=A0of 2020-10-29 built on moufang2 Repository revision: 14432a33511ec750815c6f3b188f2c0d21b4cb22 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Recent messages: Quit Please type y or n, or C-v/M-v to scroll: y View mode: type C-h for help, h for commands, q to quit. Mark saved where search started Mark set Mark saved where search started split-window: Attempt to split minibuffer window command-execute: Command attempted to use minibuffer while in minibuffer elisp--preceding-sexp: Old-style backquotes detected! Making completion list... 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Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2022 08:40:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 54797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Bruce Mardle Cc: 54797@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 54797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B54797.164949359220535 (code B ref 54797); Sat, 09 Apr 2022 08:40:01 +0000 Received: (at 54797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Apr 2022 08:39:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36677 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nd6dM-0005L8-Li for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2022 04:39:52 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:39904) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nd6dK-0005Ku-OF for 54797@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2022 04:39:51 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=cm6r5BwQ078lSgVpi04fa0GFkJrTUC43Yk8sY+uKk3M=; b=sOk3kmW81ASOULi2wyPO8R9zXi PCyKWMTgsu/I7uc0QtgVb4pi0+BRLVY+UoBeRBUJe3fDWte/BqbHw6BrzTBrtgX8pF3uN1uE8j6gO OW9NFbDRm1mWl+RFjJsmQt4yoqD69j3zgWwSTsWzE+T5yE1iNIxP8iqCzCVq9Ja6xmk0=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nd6dC-0008B4-8N; Sat, 09 Apr 2022 10:39:44 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <318682461.5015086.1649439801318.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <318682461.5015086.1649439801318@mail.yahoo.com> X-Now-Playing: Laura Jean's _The Hunter's Ode_: "Sweet Jesus" Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2022 10:39:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: <318682461.5015086.1649439801318@mail.yahoo.com> (Bruce Mardle's message of "Fri, 8 Apr 2022 17:43:21 +0000 (UTC)") Message-ID: <87h772646s.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Bruce Mardle writes: > Short version: > Try to evaluate > '(, foo) > and you'll get (error "Old-style backquotes detected!"), which is > confusing considering that the expression doesn't contain a backquote! Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Bruce Mardle writes: > Short version: > Try to evaluate > '(, foo) > and you'll get (error "Old-style backquotes detected!"), which is > confusing considering that the expression doesn't contain a backquote! 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: close 54797 28.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) close 54797 28.1 quit From unknown Fri Jun 20 18:23:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#54797: 27.1; "Old-style backquotes detected!" when there are no backquotes. 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It's an Emacs 27 regression. No such problem before Emacs 27. From unknown Fri Jun 20 18:23:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#54797: 27.1; "Old-style backquotes detected!" when there are no backquotes. Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 18:03:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 54797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Bruce Mardle Cc: 54797@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 54797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B54797.165021857929222 (code B ref 54797); Sun, 17 Apr 2022 18:03:01 +0000 Received: (at 54797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Apr 2022 18:02:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37116 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ng9Eg-0007bG-P1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 14:02:58 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:45122) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ng9Ee-0007b2-Jb for 54797@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 14:02:57 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=KJPBXRuZmCwDKqgtT97tSr2RNPcaKxzCeWgiut7MkWs=; b=UyZpIGsEiJksRG5Sz1g6zz9ZAa wtgu3nNz+zACRENKXiJBBWYQ3yeKH5jKLwRvgnoluVJ05jXiz9cyCI4/Q68LkaxockAYg1iQZgos3 Owe4lDckuk3jDHm+dIq77X0MKzoQPHyxxLLF3OJYpEoJzDp3lM22Xlf9xvsRXEeMCB8o=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ng9ES-0008SG-ON; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 20:02:49 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <318682461.5015086.1649439801318.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <318682461.5015086.1649439801318@mail.yahoo.com> <87h772646s.fsf@gnus.org> <170831386.714375.1650213585250@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 20:02:43 +0200 In-Reply-To: <170831386.714375.1650213585250@mail.yahoo.com> (Bruce Mardle's message of "Sun, 17 Apr 2022 16:39:45 +0000 (UTC)") Message-ID: <87wnfn8u64.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Bruce Mardle writes: > I've only just read this properly [blush]. (I've just installed Emacs > 28.1 under Cygwin under Windows 10.): Why DOES evaluating '(, foo) > give ((\, foo), not (\, foo)? Evaluating '(bar foo) gives [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Bruce Mardle writes: > I've only just read this properly [blush]. (I've just installed Emacs > 28.1 under Cygwin under Windows 10.): Why DOES evaluating '(, foo) > give ((\, foo), not (\, foo)? Evaluating '(bar foo) gives (bar foo), > as expected. I'm not sure -- it's not particularly valid syntax -- , is only valid inside backquotes. Perhaps somebody else knows.