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27.1; "Old-style backquotes detected!" when there are no backquotes.

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From: Bruce Mardle <marblypup <at> yahoo.co.uk>
To: "bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: 27.1; "Old-style backquotes detected!" when there are no backquotes.
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2022 17:43:21 +0000 (UTC)

Short version:
Try to evaluate
'(, foo)
and you'll get (error "Old-style backquotes detected!"), which is
confusing considering that the expression doesn't contain a backquote!


Long version:
My code was evaluating happily yesterday (on what much have been an old
version of Emacs) but came up with that error on 27.1 today.  It turned
out I had "(, " in a few places. They should have been "(* ", (OCR
failure) so I suppose I should thank the error message for helping me find
those... but it's a confusing message when source doesn't contain any
backquotes!
(I spent a while Googling to find out what was happening but only found
cases of people getting the error message whose code *did* contain a
backquote.)






In GNU Emacs 27.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-cygwin)
 of 2020-10-29 built on moufang2
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Message #8 received at 54797 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Bruce Mardle <marblypup <at> yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: 54797 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54797: 27.1; "Old-style backquotes detected!" when there
 are no backquotes.
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2022 10:39:39 +0200

Bruce Mardle <marblypup <at> yahoo.co.uk> writes:

> Short version:
> Try to evaluate
> '(, foo)
> and you'll get (error "Old-style backquotes detected!"), which is
> confusing considering that the expression doesn't contain a backquote!

I can reproduce this in Emacs 27.1, but not in Emacs 28.1 (it just
evaluates to ((\, foo))), so I guess this has been fixed now.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #13 received at 54797 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>, Bruce Mardle <marblypup <at> yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: "54797 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <54797 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: RE: [External] : bug#54797: 27.1; "Old-style backquotes detected!"
 when there are no backquotes.
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2022 17:59:33 +0000

> I can reproduce this in Emacs 27.1, but not in Emacs 28.1 (it just
> evaluates to ((\, foo))), so I guess this has been fixed now.

It's an Emacs 27 regression.  No such problem before Emacs 27.

Message #16 received at 54797 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Bruce Mardle <marblypup <at> yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: 54797 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54797: 27.1; "Old-style backquotes detected!" when there
 are no backquotes.
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 20:02:43 +0200

Bruce Mardle <marblypup <at> yahoo.co.uk> writes:

> I've only just read this properly [blush]. (I've just installed Emacs
> 28.1 under Cygwin under Windows 10.): Why DOES evaluating '(, foo)
> give ((\, foo), not (\, foo)? Evaluating '(bar foo) gives (bar foo),
> as expected.

I'm not sure -- it's not particularly valid syntax -- , is only valid
inside backquotes.

Perhaps somebody else knows.

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