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debbugs uses functions not available in Emacs 25.1

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jonas Bernoulli <jonas <at> bernoul.li>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: debbugs uses functions not available in Emacs 25.1
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2022 22:01:01 +0200

Debbugs claims to support Emacs 25.1 but uses functions/arguments that
are not available in that release:

In debbugs-gnu-package-tabulated-list-print:
lib/debbugs/debbugs-gnu.el:735:36:Warning: alist-get called with 5 arguments,
    but accepts only 2-4

In debbugs-gnu-show-all-blocking-reports:
lib/debbugs/debbugs-gnu.el:1404:14:Warning: alist-get called with 5 arguments,
    but accepts only 2-4

In debbugs-gnu-emacs-release-blocking-reports:
lib/debbugs/debbugs-gnu.el:1429:7:Warning: ‘(id (alist-get release
    debbugs-gnu-emacs-blocking-reports nil nil (function equal)))’ is a
    malformed function
lib/debbugs/debbugs-gnu.el:1433:70:Warning: reference to free variable ‘id’
lib/debbugs/debbugs-gnu.el:1434:33:Warning: reference to free variable
    ‘blockers’

In debbugs-gnu-jump-to-bug:
lib/debbugs/debbugs-gnu.el:2105:24:Warning: attempt to let-bind nonvariable
    ‘(memql bugid (debbugs-gnu-implicit-ids))’

In end of data:
lib/debbugs/debbugs-gnu.el:2927:1:Warning: the following functions are not
    known to be defined: if-let*, blockers, string-replace

Message #8 received at 54775 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Jonas Bernoulli <jonas <at> bernoul.li>
Cc: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>, 54775 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54775: debbugs uses functions not available in Emacs 25.1
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2022 15:20:25 +0200

Jonas Bernoulli <jonas <at> bernoul.li> writes:

> Debbugs claims to support Emacs 25.1 but uses functions/arguments that
> are not available in that release:

Michael, should we just bump the required version to 28.1, perhaps?  I
think debbugs is mostly useful for people that follow Emacs development.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #13 received at 54775 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Jonas Bernoulli <jonas <at> bernoul.li>, 54775 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54775: debbugs uses functions not available in Emacs 25.1
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2022 15:25:06 +0200

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

Hi Lars,

>> Debbugs claims to support Emacs 25.1 but uses functions/arguments that
>> are not available in that release:
>
> Michael, should we just bump the required version to 28.1, perhaps?  I
> think debbugs is mostly useful for people that follow Emacs development.

I'm already thinking about this for a while. I believe by requiring Emacs
28.1 we would lose several users. Perhaps bumping to just 26.1?

Jonas, I guess you have a reason to report this. Do you still work with
Emacs 25?

Best regards, Michael.

Message #16 received at 54775 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jonas Bernoulli <jonas <at> bernoul.li>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>, Lars Ingebrigtsen
 <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 54775 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54775: debbugs uses functions not available in Emacs 25.1
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2022 18:19:43 +0200

Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de> writes:

> Jonas, I guess you have a reason to report this. Do you still work with
> Emacs 25?

Hell no!  But there are people who want to use an ancient Emacsen (or
are being forced to do so by their employer) but also the very latest
Magit, so I am forced to occasionally check if things still work in 25.
When doing that I also have to recompile other packages and ran into
this issue.

Message #19 received at 54775 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Jonas Bernoulli <jonas <at> bernoul.li>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>, 54775 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54775: debbugs uses functions not available in Emacs 25.1
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2022 18:45:14 +0200

Jonas Bernoulli <jonas <at> bernoul.li> writes:

Hi Jonas,

> Hell no!  But there are people who want to use an ancient Emacsen (or
> are being forced to do so by their employer) but also the very latest
> Magit, so I am forced to occasionally check if things still work in 25.
> When doing that I also have to recompile other packages and ran into
> this issue.

I see. I'll try to make debbugs compatible with Emacs 25, but it might
take some days ...

Best regards, Michael.

Message #22 received at 54775 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jonas Bernoulli <jonas <at> bernoul.li>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>, 54775 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54775: debbugs uses functions not available in Emacs 25.1
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2022 23:55:20 +0200

Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de> writes:

> Jonas Bernoulli <jonas <at> bernoul.li> writes:
>
> Hi Jonas,
>
>> Hell no!  But there are people who want to use an ancient Emacsen (or
>> are being forced to do so by their employer) but also the very latest
>> Magit, so I am forced to occasionally check if things still work in 25.
>> When doing that I also have to recompile other packages and ran into
>> this issue.
>
> I see. I'll try to make debbugs compatible with Emacs 25, but it might
> take some days ...

You don't have to do that for me!  I don't use debbugs *while* checking
whether my packages are still backward compatible.  I just happen to
recompile every package that I have installed when I do that (except for
those that I have already added to my list of packages that are not
backward compatible).

I just described how I came across those warnings. I reported to inform
the maintainers that they should do *something* about it.  I didn't mean
to imply that in those situations I have an urgent need for debbugs to
be usable.  Depending on a more recent Emacs would be perfectly fine
with me.

     Jonas

Message #25 received at 54775 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Jonas Bernoulli <jonas <at> bernoul.li>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>, 54775 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54775: debbugs uses functions not available in Emacs 25.1
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2022 10:26:32 +0200

Jonas Bernoulli <jonas <at> bernoul.li> writes:

Hi Jonas,

>> I see. I'll try to make debbugs compatible with Emacs 25, but it might
>> take some days ...
>
> You don't have to do that for me!  I don't use debbugs *while* checking
> whether my packages are still backward compatible.  I just happen to
> recompile every package that I have installed when I do that (except for
> those that I have already added to my list of packages that are not
> backward compatible).
>
> I just described how I came across those warnings. I reported to inform
> the maintainers that they should do *something* about it.  I didn't mean
> to imply that in those situations I have an urgent need for debbugs to
> be usable.  Depending on a more recent Emacs would be perfectly fine
> with me.

Thanks for being kind :-)

Finally, I've lifted the requirement to Emacs 26.1. This seems to be a
good compromise between not losing too many users, and applying minimal
changes.

Releaaed as debbugs 0.32.

>      Jonas

Best regards, Michael.

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