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23.1.91; Mouse pointer shape in menus on Windows 7

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From: "Francis Wright" <f.j.wright <at> live.co.uk>
To: <emacs-pretest-bug <at> gnu.org>
Subject: 23.1.91; Mouse pointer shape in menus on Windows 7
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:49:55 -0000

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Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
and the precise symptoms of the bug.  If you can, give
a recipe starting from `emacs -Q':

Click on a menu. The mouse pointer shape should be the default arrow but
often it is the I shape that I expect when the mouse pointer is over
editable text. Occasionally it is the pointing hand that I expect when
the mouse pointer is over a hyperlink.

I think the following recipe will provoke this bug reliably. Start emacs 
with the -Q option. Drag the window to the top of the screen so that it 
maximises, then drag it down again to that it reverts to its previous size. 
Now open a menu; the mouse pointer seems to appear reliably as the I shape. 
This is on a new Compaq laptop running Windows 7. I can't get Emacs
23.1.1 to show the same bug on my previous laptop running Windows XP.

If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger,
please include the output from the following gdb commands:
   `bt full' and `xbacktrace'.
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In GNU Emacs 23.1.91.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600)
of 2010-01-03 on PRETEST
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7600
configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)'

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 locale-coding-system: cp1252
 default enable-multibyte-characters: t

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Message #10 received at 5464 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Francis Wright <f.j.wright <at> live.co.uk>
Cc: 5464 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#5464: 23.1.91; Mouse pointer shape in menus on Windows 7
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 01:31:37 +0200

"Francis Wright" <f.j.wright <at> live.co.uk> writes:

> Click on a menu. The mouse pointer shape should be the default arrow but
> often it is the I shape that I expect when the mouse pointer is over
> editable text. Occasionally it is the pointing hand that I expect when
> the mouse pointer is over a hyperlink.
>
> I think the following recipe will provoke this bug reliably. Start emacs with
> the -Q option. Drag the window to the top of the screen so that it maximises,
> then drag it down again to that it reverts to its previous size. Now open a
> menu; the mouse pointer seems to appear reliably as the I shape. This is on a
> new Compaq laptop running Windows 7. I can't get Emacs
> 23.1.1 to show the same bug on my previous laptop running Windows XP.
>
> In GNU Emacs 23.1.91.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600)
> of 2010-01-03 on PRETEST
> Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7600
> configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)'

That was over 9 years ago.  Are you still seeing this in a modern
version of Emacs?

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas

Message #13 received at 5464 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Cc: f.j.wright <at> live.co.uk, 5464 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#5464: 23.1.91; Mouse pointer shape in menus on Windows 7
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 11:31:09 +0300

> From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 01:31:37 +0200
> Cc: 5464 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> "Francis Wright" <f.j.wright <at> live.co.uk> writes:
> 
> > Click on a menu. The mouse pointer shape should be the default arrow but
> > often it is the I shape that I expect when the mouse pointer is over
> > editable text. Occasionally it is the pointing hand that I expect when
> > the mouse pointer is over a hyperlink.
> >
> > I think the following recipe will provoke this bug reliably. Start emacs with
> > the -Q option. Drag the window to the top of the screen so that it maximises,
> > then drag it down again to that it reverts to its previous size. Now open a
> > menu; the mouse pointer seems to appear reliably as the I shape. This is on a
> > new Compaq laptop running Windows 7. I can't get Emacs
> > 23.1.1 to show the same bug on my previous laptop running Windows XP.
> >
> > In GNU Emacs 23.1.91.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600)
> > of 2010-01-03 on PRETEST
> > Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7600
> > configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)'
> 
> That was over 9 years ago.  Are you still seeing this in a modern
> version of Emacs?

I can't, but these Heisenbugs are notoriously unreproducible.

Message #16 received at 5464 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Francis Wright <f.j.wright <at> live.co.uk>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Cc: "5464 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <5464 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: RE: bug#5464: 23.1.91; Mouse pointer shape in menus on Windows 7
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 11:34:23 +0000

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I still see peculiar mouse pointer shapes when using the menus on Emacs 26.3 on Windows 10 on my current laptop. Experimenting with this just now I have noticed the pointer change to the busy hourglass shape several times for no very obvious reason, just by moving it about over the help menu and its submenus. But I can’t give a reliable recipe for provoking this. I was also able to provoke the editing I-cursor shape just now, but not in a reproducible way.

I can also provoke the mouse pointer to turn into an I-cursor when it is over the empty right-hand part of the toolbar and then it stays that way (when it’s over the empty toolbar) until I hover over an active button, when it reverts to the correct pointer shape. This seems to happen if I hover over text in an edit window before hovering over the empty part of the toolbar. This behaviour is not really a problem, but it might be related to the menu problems.

From: Eli Zaretskii<mailto:eliz <at> gnu.org>
Sent: 11 October 2019 9:31 am
Subject: Re: bug#5464: 23.1.91; Mouse pointer shape in menus on Windows 7

The mouse pointer shape should be the default arrow but
> > often it is the I shape that I expect when the mouse pointer is over
> > editable text. Occasionally it is the pointing hand that I expect when
> > the mouse pointer is over a hyperlink.
> >
> > I think the following recipe will provoke this bug reliably. Start emacs with
> > the -Q option. Drag the window to the top of the screen so that it maximises,
> > then drag it down again to that it reverts to its previous size. Now open a
> > menu; the mouse pointer seems to appear reliably as the I shape. This is on a
> > new Compaq laptop running Windows 7. I can't get Emacs
> > 23.1.1 to show the same bug on my previous laptop running Windows XP.
> >
> > In GNU Emacs 23.1.91.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600)
> > of 2010-01-03 on PRETEST
> > Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7600
> > configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)'
>
> That was over 9 years ago.  Are you still seeing this in a modern
> version of Emacs?

I can't, but these Heisenbugs are notoriously unreproducible.

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