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Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1141 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nXU4I-0002ID-MC; Thu, 24 Mar 2022 16:28:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 22:28:19 +0200 Message-Id: <83ee2rccyk.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: goncholden In-Reply-To: (bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org) Subject: Re: bug#54551: show-paren-mode inconsistency References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54551 Cc: 54551@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 20:13:55 +0000 > From: goncholden via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" > > I am using show-paren-mode to highlight watching opening or closing parentheses. > > Have seen that putting the cursor on the opening brace highlights the closing brace. But putting the cursor > does not highlight the opening brace. One has to go to the character following the closing brace. Because > elisp customarily has many consecutive closing braces, using the consecutive character to highlight the > matching opening brace is counter productive. This is so typing the closing brace shows the matching opening brace. With your proposal, when I type the closing brace, the opening one will not be highlighted. So this is by design, and for a good reason. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 24 17:34:28 2022 Received: (at 54551) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2022 21:34:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49573 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXV6B-0008Sg-PU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2022 17:34:27 -0400 Received: from smtp-3.orcon.net.nz ([60.234.4.44]:59095) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXV69-0008SW-RK for 54551@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2022 17:34:26 -0400 Received: from [10.253.37.70] (port=60074 helo=webmail.orcon.net.nz) by smtp-3.orcon.net.nz with esmtpa (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nXV67-0005UY-3m; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 10:34:23 +1300 Received: from ip-139-180-65-103.kinect.net.nz ([139.180.65.103]) via [10.253.37.253] by webmail.orcon.net.nz with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Fri, 25 Mar 2022 10:34:23 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 10:34:23 +1300 From: Phil Sainty To: goncholden Subject: Re: bug#54551: show-paren-mode inconsistency In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7616848ebf32694e0aa0a7f89e97ef35@webmail.orcon.net.nz> X-Sender: psainty@orcon.net.nz User-Agent: Orcon Webmail X-GeoIP: -- X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54551 Cc: 54551@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 2022-03-25 09:13, goncholden wrote: > I am using show-paren-mode to highlight watching opening or closing > parentheses. > > Have seen that putting the cursor on the opening brace highlights the > closing brace. But putting the cursor does not highlight the opening > brace. One has to go to the character following the closing brace. It's consistent, but you're confused because you think that the cursor indicates a character rather than a position *between* two characters. If you customize `cursor-⁠type' to the Vertical Bar option you will have a more literal view of the cursor, and see what `show-⁠paren-⁠mode' is actually doing. -⁠Phil From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 24 18:48:45 2022 Received: (at 54551) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2022 22:48:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49618 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXWG5-0001vH-3j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2022 18:48:45 -0400 Received: from mail-4318.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.18]:30417) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXWG4-0001v4-1J for 54551@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2022 18:48:44 -0400 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 22:48:35 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail; t=1648162117; bh=I5pB2Am78olOm1gF2ADDzfWVfr5Em9fBWJu+l26vz2o=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID; b=dK32LkHjxLVttECrciV0R7GmSbpxE4EBZJQDGKeGjkuNIjlnXzjhrB8XELBkZAbdA 09zM6RHd6jfS9UiEXG8n+3iJDBBu5CoX64sl+Rd9Q445DLHUi1ynMyElreM+esb4pN 83PuZokVB3EjXcsag3UThe+LF06JkYDQpZxv1HVT29OQ9k/ID3CzimYZYzZP32UTxY HT+7kxqjT/uKiPpF2z0neAc2/O3FjTM+a5wuuzYnEKJJgmwevixW4ne+4AxpY/GhHu fX1p5BVJeQnLKNjod0vYYfgbHj1vAhdU/bATuRdN5g2rS3sOKWgLQK5RJ4iF5GnG3A 2tWDbFnC+t8LA== To: Eli Zaretskii From: goncholden Subject: Re: bug#54551: show-paren-mode inconsistency Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <83ee2rccyk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83ee2rccyk.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54551 Cc: 54551@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: goncholden Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) ------- Original Message ------- On Friday, March 25th, 2022 at 8:28 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 20:13:55 +0000 > > > > From: goncholden via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > > > > the Swiss army knife of text editors" bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > > > I am using show-paren-mode to highlight watching opening or closing par= entheses. > > > > Have seen that putting the cursor on the opening brace highlights the c= losing brace. But putting the cursor > > > > does not highlight the opening brace. One has to go to the character fo= llowing the closing brace. Because > > > > elisp customarily has many consecutive closing braces, using the consec= utive character to highlight the > > > > matching opening brace is counter productive. > > This is so typing the closing brace shows the matching opening brace. > > With your proposal, when I type the closing brace, the opening one > > will not be highlighted. > > So this is by design, and for a good reason. Thank you for the explanation. Consider the following command (setq initial-frame-alist '((width . 72) (height . 26)) ). Would be instructive that when one puts the cursor in the space between (wi= dth . 72) and (height . 26), the entire (width . 72) (height . 26) would be= highlighted. But (setq show-paren-when-point-inside-paren t) does not do that. Can be very non-intuitive when debugging. Also, if you put the cursor on t= he parenthesis following (height . 26), only (height . 26) gets highlighted= , rather than the entire (height . 26) (height . 26). Could some improvements be done about this? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 24 20:12:40 2022 Received: (at 54551) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2022 00:12:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49673 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXXZI-00042b-Hv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2022 20:12:40 -0400 Received: from smtp-1.orcon.net.nz ([60.234.4.34]:58677) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXXZF-00042M-SJ for 54551@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2022 20:12:38 -0400 Received: from [10.253.37.70] (port=8295 helo=webmail.orcon.net.nz) by smtp-1.orcon.net.nz with esmtpa (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nXXZ5-0007Hn-EM; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 13:12:28 +1300 Received: from ip-139-180-65-103.kinect.net.nz ([139.180.65.103]) via [10.253.37.253] by webmail.orcon.net.nz with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Fri, 25 Mar 2022 13:12:27 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 13:12:27 +1300 From: Phil Sainty To: goncholden Subject: Re: bug#54551: show-paren-mode inconsistency In-Reply-To: References: <83ee2rccyk.fsf@gnu.org> Message-ID: <02f5d0e52ab17015df7cffeda5600d17@webmail.orcon.net.nz> X-Sender: psainty@orcon.net.nz User-Agent: Orcon Webmail X-GeoIP: -- X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54551 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 54551@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 2022-03-25 11:48, goncholden wrote: > Consider the following command > > (setq initial-frame-alist '((width . 72) (height . 26)) ). > > Would be instructive that when one puts the cursor in the space > between (width . 72) and (height . 26), the entire (width . 72) > (height . 26) would be highlighted. That wouldn't make any sense for show-paren-mode. The cursor (point) is either between the ")" and " " characters, or else between the " " and "(" characters. Those are the only two possibilities, and in each case you would expect show-paren-mode to highlight the adjacent expression (to the left or to the right of the cursor, respectively). > But (setq show-paren-when-point-inside-paren t) does not do that. It's not documented as doing that, so there's not reason to expect that it might. I think you're looking for this library: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/HighlightSexp From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 25 00:20:48 2022 Received: (at 54551) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2022 04:20:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49804 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXbRQ-0001mO-M7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 00:20:48 -0400 Received: from mail-4325.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.25]:28567) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXbRP-0001mB-6l for 54551@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 00:20:48 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 04:20:39 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail; t=1648182040; bh=2PnXpOt/u0x6MWiMNOndI80eWfbmNhyo05/SBvMG0+k=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID; b=YkTCnnH3RMVzJdaFyzlgVgNcOGd4NvVrNins7G9+PGnDGY0YViypQpEsX5zoYbdau KTUekJHFPyfFtULKXvINnNWH8CZdFv+PLFPGwyKUusGW+FRlRIEyvxz1F5sgaqQVX6 ReIbMGcl4U2bbmtrmo0jUcwHX/mh8QSIyoXdDUGtYcFKfOQ6LHlwlYbmzgM7o9m5xe HiMA7080gDj4awMtCDSwwrp5w6qeFhoDvXgnHpDhYR1helObfk6YzEAt1KvLp2LoGJ Ie9vqO2SGKFW2ZeoHvXw3AfbPbrMz/xLr/zWK2Zniir1JVPicl+tLfTE81Y8PgXF/h Ks3MeWsEzk4kg== To: Phil Sainty From: goncholden Subject: Re: bug#54551: show-paren-mode inconsistency Message-ID: <0WZYJ8onIiWI4JsigrmlEGqkMLh1v1m8PYEhIC8hfU3s6tdWSPdE2eWEXWlzwwZ4UEkfEez_mlZTmfCy5akvKZTpu32mttK4b_qxu2VMIxs=@protonmail.com> In-Reply-To: <02f5d0e52ab17015df7cffeda5600d17@webmail.orcon.net.nz> References: <83ee2rccyk.fsf@gnu.org> <02f5d0e52ab17015df7cffeda5600d17@webmail.orcon.net.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54551 Cc: 54551@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: goncholden Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) ------- Original Message ------- On Friday, March 25th, 2022 at 12:12 PM, Phil Sainty = wrote: > On 2022-03-25 11:48, goncholden wrote: > > Consider the following command > > (setq initial-frame-alist '((width . 72) (height . 26)) ). > > Would be instructive that when one puts the cursor in the space > > between (width . 72) and (height . 26), the entire (width . 72) > > (height . 26) would be highlighted. > That wouldn't make any sense for show-paren-mode. > The cursor (point) is either between the ")" and " " characters, or > else between the " " and "(" characters. Those are the only two > possibilities, and in each case you would expect show-paren-mode to > highlight the adjacent expression (to the left or to the right of the > cursor, respectively). I use the block colouring of the cursor, meaning that your valid descriptio= n in not so intuitive. Would it be possible to include a different interpret= ation depending on the type of cursor display one is using? > > But (setq show-paren-when-point-inside-paren t) does not do that. > It's not documented as doing that, so there's not reason to expect > that it might. > > I think you're looking for this library: > https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/HighlightSexp Will try it out and report back about it. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 25 00:29:17 2022 Received: (at 54551) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2022 04:29:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49814 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXbZc-0001zW-OE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 00:29:17 -0400 Received: from mail-4319.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.19]:35715) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXbZU-0001zC-Oa for 54551@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 00:29:15 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 04:29:01 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail; t=1648182542; bh=hLQgklK3uCxnDa6I8WGZ3U06WM4hzAhnyuJ5AW1mgCo=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID; b=EnxV+Ym7ml2x+YVY5Kr/S1wOHCgazT9XvmAzvpSor71aPiqb1L+2WQARsRnGNJ2V0 +/P/pSrPrKULfh7p2Di6w8OEdROeTTCrHSMkKYDlDPd6nxXFhDeXze2E2yRJXf5/2s DREn7h3EDzNX0pBCYplSX0IFUFIwiKTFJkrxtYQHW+M0WBjzIKVqtYYYe9GsjmyVCY iFyeXVdtXCMWfOqtHx/lOtAhomX076bTrq/RSZFQxEEGJJS8U68tmKEzZQb2kS9uFn H/h2Ugy2JwpySWcgujTFUGQ0FMg9iQ4sBzaF5ImA0mNqR8aqbqyBYSwfpIXZJLc3W+ +haWKP3cYGD6A== To: Phil Sainty From: goncholden Subject: Re: bug#54551: show-paren-mode inconsistency Message-ID: <7HF3qMcVu6h-sk7DalI-eW4Dghrjvr8JGDFsLdTscFleTv944hc3qU8KmBM5FOgK94hjbkmUVcqQpx5kvw4cCsVWBHjwaogloBoHlElxF84=@protonmail.com> In-Reply-To: <0WZYJ8onIiWI4JsigrmlEGqkMLh1v1m8PYEhIC8hfU3s6tdWSPdE2eWEXWlzwwZ4UEkfEez_mlZTmfCy5akvKZTpu32mttK4b_qxu2VMIxs=@protonmail.com> References: <83ee2rccyk.fsf@gnu.org> <02f5d0e52ab17015df7cffeda5600d17@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <0WZYJ8onIiWI4JsigrmlEGqkMLh1v1m8PYEhIC8hfU3s6tdWSPdE2eWEXWlzwwZ4UEkfEez_mlZTmfCy5akvKZTpu32mttK4b_qxu2VMIxs=@protonmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54551 Cc: 54551@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: goncholden Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) ------- Original Message ------- On Friday, March 25th, 2022 at 4:20 PM, goncholden wrote: > ------- Original Message ------- > > On Friday, March 25th, 2022 at 12:12 PM, Phil Sainty psainty@orcon.net.nz= wrote: > > > On 2022-03-25 11:48, goncholden wrote: > > > > Consider the following command > > > (setq initial-frame-alist '((width . 72) (height . 26)) ). > > > Would be instructive that when one puts the cursor in the space > > > between (width . 72) and (height . 26), the entire (width . 72) > > > (height . 26) would be highlighted. > > That wouldn't make any sense for show-paren-mode. > > The cursor (point) is either between the ")" and " " characters, or > > else between the " " and "(" characters. Those are the only two > > possibilities, and in each case you would expect show-paren-mode to > > highlight the adjacent expression (to the left or to the right of the > > cursor, respectively). > I use the block colouring of the cursor, meaning that your valid descript= ion > in not so intuitive. Would it be possible to include a different interpre= tation > depending on the type of cursor display one is using? > > > But (setq show-paren-when-point-inside-paren t) does not do that. > > It's not documented as doing that, so there's not reason to expect > > that it might. > > I think you're looking for this library: > > https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/HighlightSexp > Will try it out and report back about it. Is HighlightSexp only relevant for use with lisp-mode-hook and emacs-lisp-m= ode-hook ? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 25 00:57:51 2022 Received: (at 54551) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2022 04:57:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49835 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXc1H-0002jA-4Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 00:57:51 -0400 Received: from smtp-3.orcon.net.nz ([60.234.4.44]:39307) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXc1F-0002j0-1j for 54551@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 00:57:49 -0400 Received: from [10.253.37.70] (port=43576 helo=webmail.orcon.net.nz) by smtp-3.orcon.net.nz with esmtpa (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nXc1B-0002A5-6o; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 17:57:45 +1300 Received: from ip-139-180-65-103.kinect.net.nz ([139.180.65.103]) via [10.253.37.253] by webmail.orcon.net.nz with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Fri, 25 Mar 2022 17:57:45 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 17:57:45 +1300 From: Phil Sainty To: goncholden Subject: Re: bug#54551: show-paren-mode inconsistency In-Reply-To: <0WZYJ8onIiWI4JsigrmlEGqkMLh1v1m8PYEhIC8hfU3s6tdWSPdE2eWEXWlzwwZ4UEkfEez_mlZTmfCy5akvKZTpu32mttK4b_qxu2VMIxs=@protonmail.com> References: <83ee2rccyk.fsf@gnu.org> <02f5d0e52ab17015df7cffeda5600d17@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <0WZYJ8onIiWI4JsigrmlEGqkMLh1v1m8PYEhIC8hfU3s6tdWSPdE2eWEXWlzwwZ4UEkfEez_mlZTmfCy5akvKZTpu32mttK4b_qxu2VMIxs=@protonmail.com> Message-ID: <5b634871f981330f5d47a53aff2a318d@webmail.orcon.net.nz> X-Sender: psainty@orcon.net.nz User-Agent: Orcon Webmail X-GeoIP: -- X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54551 Cc: 54551@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 2022-03-25 17:20, goncholden wrote: > I use the block colouring of the cursor, meaning that your > valid description in not so intuitive. Would it be possible > to include a different interpretation depending on the type > of cursor display one is using? The position at point is the same no matter what the cursor looks like, and the behaviour is based on where point is, so for the current code the appearance of the cursor is irrelevant. You *could* make the code test the cursor type and change its behaviour in accordance with what it thought the cursor looked like, but I'd really recommend just getting familiar with the existing (and very consistent) behaviour, and remembering what it is that the cursor actually represents. > > I think you're looking for this library: > > https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/HighlightSexp > > Is HighlightSexp only relevant for use with lisp-mode-hook > and emacs-lisp-mode-hook ? Anything lisp-based should certainly work, but it's more generic than that. Not every major mode would be relevant, but you can experiment with different modes and see whether it works. -Phil From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 25 01:23:46 2022 Received: (at 54551) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2022 05:23:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49847 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXcQM-0003V7-CA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 01:23:46 -0400 Received: from mail-4325.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.25]:57125) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXcQJ-0003Ur-CJ for 54551@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 01:23:44 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 05:23:35 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail; t=1648185816; bh=W4hLxKU4PjmMuSKjlGgcRp2rvnWhz19lSigLUgtyGdg=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID; b=VXUL1COnpfavXm5e66hUWzkGj/1kx7EozeTxv1gE9pXVtRrsKFb6lzdxGF69W+zyM jy+uEThrpA0kLSdFLWF9ESH20KyrzSaOe5ufK0qhGK5oWCJbC2BP0ksB17AGcy+o12 dnfcuDjCrGl1+a7Gsm3Xv8BneINtzi9LyeKZlwQ643WhxTFWIkEO24ACCWhkL3k9l5 ETsX1u9aM7i0NV/QHNaIf0VbaLI7YB/6qF6DECNNCXnX9DcDsKDigiA+ErI3XxZQTh is+Xsk+XZ+8CxAywHqovZAcFZOPMMy59LpJ5RBMhLlAszHBqVjqI5xkUQtpnpkZu7r CGnw5cxPeTmKw== To: Phil Sainty From: goncholden Subject: Re: bug#54551: show-paren-mode inconsistency Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5b634871f981330f5d47a53aff2a318d@webmail.orcon.net.nz> References: <83ee2rccyk.fsf@gnu.org> <02f5d0e52ab17015df7cffeda5600d17@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <0WZYJ8onIiWI4JsigrmlEGqkMLh1v1m8PYEhIC8hfU3s6tdWSPdE2eWEXWlzwwZ4UEkfEez_mlZTmfCy5akvKZTpu32mttK4b_qxu2VMIxs=@protonmail.com> <5b634871f981330f5d47a53aff2a318d@webmail.orcon.net.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54551 Cc: 54551@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: goncholden Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) ------- Original Message ------- On Friday, March 25th, 2022 at 4:57 PM, Phil Sainty = wrote: > On 2022-03-25 17:20, goncholden wrote: > > I use the block colouring of the cursor, meaning that your > > valid description in not so intuitive. Would it be possible > > to include a different interpretation depending on the type > > of cursor display one is using? > The position at point is the same no matter what the cursor > looks like, and the behaviour is based on where point is, so > for the current code the appearance of the cursor is irrelevant. > You could make the code test the cursor type and change its > behaviour in accordance with what it thought the cursor looked > like, but I'd really recommend just getting familiar with the > existing (and very consistent) behaviour, and remembering what > it is that the cursor actually represents. > > > I think you're looking for this library: > > > https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/HighlightSexp > > Is HighlightSexp only relevant for use with lisp-mode-hook > > and emacs-lisp-mode-hook ? > Anything lisp-based should certainly work, but it's more generic > than that. Not every major mode would be relevant, but you can > experiment with different modes and see whether it works. > -Phil Have tried to figure out the background colour used by show-paren-mode after setting show-paren-when-point-inside-paren to t. But have not got to its determination. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 25 01:53:36 2022 Received: (at 54551) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2022 05:53:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49864 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXctE-0004KO-KQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 01:53:36 -0400 Received: from smtp-1.orcon.net.nz ([60.234.4.34]:35953) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXctB-0004KE-T9 for 54551@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 01:53:34 -0400 Received: from [10.253.37.70] (port=49802 helo=webmail.orcon.net.nz) by smtp-1.orcon.net.nz with esmtpa (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nXct9-00063K-Mp; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 18:53:31 +1300 Received: from ip-139-180-65-103.kinect.net.nz ([139.180.65.103]) via [10.253.37.253] by webmail.orcon.net.nz with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Fri, 25 Mar 2022 18:53:31 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 18:53:31 +1300 From: Phil Sainty To: goncholden Subject: Re: bug#54551: show-paren-mode inconsistency In-Reply-To: References: <83ee2rccyk.fsf@gnu.org> <02f5d0e52ab17015df7cffeda5600d17@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <0WZYJ8onIiWI4JsigrmlEGqkMLh1v1m8PYEhIC8hfU3s6tdWSPdE2eWEXWlzwwZ4UEkfEez_mlZTmfCy5akvKZTpu32mttK4b_qxu2VMIxs=@protonmail.com> <5b634871f981330f5d47a53aff2a318d@webmail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: X-Sender: psainty@orcon.net.nz User-Agent: Orcon Webmail X-GeoIP: -- X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54551 Cc: 54551@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 2022-03-25 18:23, goncholden wrote: > Have tried to figure out the background colour used by show-paren-mode > after setting show-paren-when-point-inside-paren to t. But have not > got to its determination. M-x customize-group RET paren-showing-faces From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 25 02:47:38 2022 Received: (at 54551) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2022 06:47:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49898 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXdjV-0005ct-OA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 02:47:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59740) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXdjU-0005cL-3M for 54551@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 02:47:36 -0400 Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=33532 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nXdjO-00065s-HN; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 02:47:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=W0E7JYEKzK8ch9g+wGiTk4ixizPxodTOJtRta+I26Kc=; b=QKqDTd/OrWR0 2KtS+0PuNu9vPc/OK2v3J4WfLYkduv9XOkqVwUx9i+lb0xqqx5y3DVpONtqE7JwEspJMv13P3xQgE 0CUIiWfUf2Q/2o8wl/4sKi2BbKES+DnrT0GBjXwASndXvZs4wN4f0pUCr6t6EisivFzTOtQgxzK6F opCNYOJ1LE1MQd6uVm5iZmGhZt7B3ui2zdeb2IU1m0mUNmj4BQX0nqRXsSLMsciV3XqViH8SKo493 kVtWhduVa//4Q+CKdSgRvSTvSwuNoxiFlV/2sHzl9m8I/cdsMIZ9v5NZAj3McUqobakPDYsXlyqmi HjSmHkYU5cUUc+1J4afgHg==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3817 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nXdjL-0003jf-1z; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 02:47:30 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 09:47:21 +0300 Message-Id: <837d8icyva.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: goncholden In-Reply-To: (message from goncholden on Thu, 24 Mar 2022 22:48:35 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#54551: show-paren-mode inconsistency References: <83ee2rccyk.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54551 Cc: 54551@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 22:48:35 +0000 > From: goncholden > Cc: 54551@debbugs.gnu.org > > Consider the following command > > (setq initial-frame-alist '((width . 72) (height . 26)) ). > > Would be instructive that when one puts the cursor in the space between (width . 72) and (height . 26), the entire (width . 72) (height . 26) would be highlighted. Why only "(width . 72) (height . 26)" and not the entire setq expression? Or maybe I don't understand what you mean by "instructive", i.e. what exactly would you like Emacs to show you and why? show-paren-mode has a specific goal: to show you the matching parenthesis in an unobtrusive way, and do that as you type as well as when you move through the code. That is the "instructive" role that it takes up upon itself. It sounds like you want something else, which would then call for a different feature with different visuals (parenthesized expressions tend to nest, so being "inside" one of them means you are "inside" all of the outer ones, and displaying them calls for a different technique than what show-paren does). > But (setq show-paren-when-point-inside-paren t) does not do that. > Can be very non-intuitive when debugging. For debugging, I suggest that you use C-M-u. > Also, if you put the cursor on the parenthesis following (height . 26), only (height . 26) gets highlighted, rather than the entire (height . 26) (height . 26). What do you mean by "the entire (height . 26)"? Did you try to set show-paren-style to 'expression', and if not, does it do what you want? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 25 03:10:46 2022 Received: (at 54551) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2022 07:10:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49925 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXe5u-0006Da-Dt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 03:10:46 -0400 Received: from mail-40137.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.137]:14391) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXe5r-0006DM-Pf for 54551@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 03:10:44 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 07:10:36 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail; t=1648192237; bh=pff7fHVPgNnhZyuBNZcDUa8G5KLftiMxeknQajbVN4A=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID; b=YOiV0fzmJbYZHl9BrvAGk8gPvdoSsv4+tu7gW2I32azwLvc35dxHvj6g2wPzB+RwC fjUDGXdE9ySvNhoM9gqpcgHrcd+4n9I62Zz3dBZO46Y7k2LF/MP/xa9pWdDKrUwX72 i/4ACN5ruZ258aXCj1OznacGvGG7NKPM4HdAAGZU3dS4sxg2zidRTeZ1wG1AEHqX3v BWPULVPwpRRbl4xr40csIjt8VVq/oY7Cq4xhMCQ4RAFYdNzvGlTnnFXScxZFHyXOHU kf5X9Fw2aYfpnQnHd4rHLMwt/m9LdbHEFat7AjQBskV86jzhYXI9KjViYTF8aRmPNI xeKCLZbe0iacg== To: Eli Zaretskii From: goncholden Subject: Re: bug#54551: show-paren-mode inconsistency Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <837d8icyva.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83ee2rccyk.fsf@gnu.org> <837d8icyva.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54551 Cc: 54551@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: goncholden Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) ------- Original Message ------- On Friday, March 25th, 2022 at 6:47 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 22:48:35 +0000 > > From: goncholden goncholden@protonmail.com > > Cc: 54551@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > Consider the following command > > > > (setq initial-frame-alist '((width . 72) (height . 26)) ). > > > > Would be instructive that when one puts the cursor in the space between= (width . 72) and (height . 26), the entire (width . 72) (height . 26) woul= d be highlighted. > > Why only "(width . 72) (height . 26)" and not the entire setq expression? > > Or maybe I don't understand what you mean by "instructive", i.e. what > > exactly would you like Emacs to show you and why? > > show-paren-mode has a specific goal: to show you the matching > > parenthesis in an unobtrusive way, and do that as you type as well as > > when you move through the code. That is the "instructive" role that > > it takes up upon itself. It sounds like you want something else, > > which would then call for a different feature with different visuals > > (parenthesized expressions tend to nest, so being "inside" one of them > > means you are "inside" all of the outer ones, and displaying them > > calls for a different technique than what show-paren does). > > > But (setq show-paren-when-point-inside-paren t) does not do that. > > > > Can be very non-intuitive when debugging. > > For debugging, I suggest that you use C-M-u. > > > Also, if you put the cursor on the parenthesis following (height . 26),= only (height . 26) gets highlighted, rather than the entire (height . 26) = (height . 26). > > What do you mean by "the entire (height . 26)"? Did you try to set > show-paren-style to 'expression', and if not, does it do what you > want? I had been trying "(customize-set-variable 'show-paren-when-point-inside-pa= ren t)". It has been suggested to me to try "highlight-sexp", which seems to work be= tter than the functionality provided by show-paren-when-point-inside-paren. With "highlight-sexp", placing cursor after "(width . 72)" does highlight "(width . 72) (height . 26)" for the expression "(setq initial-frame-alist '((width . 72) (height . 26)) )" "highlight-sexp" does highlight the innermost expression, not so with "show-paren-when-point-inside-paren". You are making sense, but I wondered if you could see possibilities for improvements to "show-paren-mode". I am debugging a problem where emacs states that there exists an extra closing parenthesis, but having extreme difficulty locating it. Have split the file in two and using "require" on a child file. Otherwise I have to comment each line of code rather than whole sections. Commenting each line is likely to introduce errors if one is not very careful removing the comment tags. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 25 03:21:35 2022 Received: (at 54551) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2022 07:21:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49968 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXeGN-0006VF-3D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 03:21:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35958) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXeGL-0006V2-Ki for 54551@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 03:21:34 -0400 Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=33916 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nXeGG-0002eS-Dk; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 03:21:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=m0aAwfGb8UAm88iPKO00eahJqJB/W/pu4xQPon/0KM4=; b=LXgTyfFnD5rn QGIG31e+Q5vYQn1S2Sb5YFhojxKhdQjvhpDV8VDXFCDO/b2FSTNqRpLbd4t1/f/821MUwKPYHpL1n sVUxNsPog1HvpiEkZrUObn9qwohyF2pzmwEK2uJRQYCHTtHuwaDI4QzKGBPu3kjf6x2qJeyh7q+eb almdO3PM58ypOrvH5kLbKa+zGnvUJf0BUJ+iPbg1sESLRkpAq/cZf+x6+yXUizlp+szLmof/AdL9q HYaVf8SvHTDe48rG2rN7F7xdmLQI/7H31k5jNbvknJXV2pLXFEtKW9trVk7K7f1UGFubmmIimL5qD TYxFWWXCIYMrK89Ns01Q6w==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1985 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nXeGF-00032o-TG; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 03:21:28 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 10:21:22 +0300 Message-Id: <831qyqcxal.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: goncholden In-Reply-To: (message from goncholden on Fri, 25 Mar 2022 07:10:36 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#54551: show-paren-mode inconsistency References: <83ee2rccyk.fsf@gnu.org> <837d8icyva.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54551 Cc: 54551@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 07:10:36 +0000 > From: goncholden > Cc: 54551@debbugs.gnu.org > > I am debugging a problem where emacs states that there exists an extra > closing parenthesis, but having extreme difficulty locating it. For this, I propose one of the following methods, or their combination: . use C-M-f to move forward by sexps in your init file . watch for show-paren to show the closing parenthesis in the "mismatched" color > Have split the file in two and using "require" on a child file. Otherwise > I have to comment each line of code rather than whole sections. Commenting > each line is likely to introduce errors if one is not very careful removing > the comment tags. You could instead mark a region of the file, and then use comment-region. I don't think any of this, or the problem you are trying to solve, is relevant to what show-paren does, though. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 25 04:35:19 2022 Received: (at 54551) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2022 08:35:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50027 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXfPi-0008Mj-Og for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 04:35:18 -0400 Received: from mail-40138.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.138]:29837) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXfPg-0008MR-KT for 54551@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 04:35:17 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 08:35:09 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail; t=1648197310; bh=azow6px/Ip24OSCnMZhrQVwxgL65863HnGr6VfERpVY=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID; b=pd6zqtRONDqSumkza0jAsc060HhWf7IWPNyd/d1fof9VT/6XvOY7Gf2SgqF99P/UP 0OTfYFxaoYvwfK4YRZCJJjjcdMiIHZS64QORi6/yhA1we6S695iQpVyrJJi92Z9AT8 2AEVgkjmNQyLoSKHdL74030Qjq9SkinMP3GdfVjmdWO7QD+GC1bQg0zDR+zjG1W33X AG4yAQjzWnAb/mrZwDax4/DNgYwp69OTHkayXx8YAnXGt+80EBqgvzy2IviyUoMtsK KMjr8cx4PuYx6ASSuY8QlyWaXOuIeQ93UCdk8yvfFk+JjY66JeVo3Qy+SPrVu0eOO9 tn/btnv+dMspA== To: Eli Zaretskii From: goncholden Subject: Re: bug#54551: show-paren-mode inconsistency Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <831qyqcxal.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83ee2rccyk.fsf@gnu.org> <837d8icyva.fsf@gnu.org> <831qyqcxal.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54551 Cc: 54551@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: goncholden Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Sent with ProtonMail secure email. ------- Original Message ------- On Friday, March 25th, 2022 at 7:21 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 07:10:36 +0000 > > > > From: goncholden goncholden@protonmail.com > > > > Cc: 54551@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > I am debugging a problem where emacs states that there exists an extra > > > > closing parenthesis, but having extreme difficulty locating it. > > For this, I propose one of the following methods, or their > > combination: > > . use C-M-f to move forward by sexps in your init file > . watch for show-paren to show the closing parenthesis in the > "mismatched" color > > > Have split the file in two and using "require" on a child file. Otherwi= se > > I have to comment each line of code rather than whole sections. Comment= ing > > each line is likely to introduce errors if one is not very careful remo= ving > > the comment tags. > You could instead mark a region of the file, and then use > comment-region. > I don't think any of this, or the problem you are trying to solve, is > relevant to what show-paren does, though. Not to what show-paren does, but about tools to isolate or focus on specifi= c sections of code. Could there be a way to ignore sections of code without requiring commenting? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 25 04:51:43 2022 Received: (at 54551) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2022 08:51:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50067 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXffb-0000Nm-IC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 04:51:43 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:47195) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXffY-0000NY-If for 54551@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 04:51:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1648198293; bh=1iUh52l2+rvZWjDA4pSBluC619j/Hy/ZlMeezAyESd0=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=ai7g5gbRyzEkgZlFkJtlXgCd4S9lUHBJF58MvhWAMzdwuw72IZQZdurAvgWUBXYwI 91PKjnoJI4Hq6LbondBYOSCi2aPEj1MJEXeyxJFVOPoKrZornGLYedKGVXiRd7EnWc 7PSUB3uX/CWHgL99+38DAARi6pcP49afLOmgzlkY= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from strobelfs2 ([89.246.38.254]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MjS9I-1nwK3K3THm-00kvVE; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 09:51:32 +0100 From: Stephen Berman To: goncholden Subject: Re: bug#54551: show-paren-mode inconsistency References: <83ee2rccyk.fsf@gnu.org> <837d8icyva.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 09:51:31 +0100 In-Reply-To: (goncholden via's message of "Fri, 25 Mar 2022 07:10:36 +0000") Message-ID: <877d8ixvn0.fsf@gmx.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:0rwub10M62CgPrVcCH19Vf7N7c5Au2YWIdaqPVTlbFTi1zyNQnW XLqk7fuUFZPWeiiEQCzxkTXsOZGN/wcWBnahcwfM3vQRMceHc81X50Q6UX3xAikY2lQatT4 yMbQ51yponO79hA6O7sYHMwaygjjUaZ8CfMJtTI1GVy001H46s04ql0dyjhLcwSilw860hl SW9gCoe4TZOWpVNDb/y8A== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:YKw0sUuznPE=:DHTVKJAwAevZz+HQ9AEcpZ XV+xwA2qtw6nuWjGHpbOd+K52NJThQE1qlRw/TI7HTKhDWNz5un6Y8gsXzQc7yhB2QZ8Mcn7L EVBuYYox1/WMBZxEXc86UpbyXQHjn4vmIFl6r8YaSJz1+JDOncUpoF5Oi1GPh+tyRcSw0kizZ cI4aqJom4fN1X+allDNdXGuC5MxIcCeY+PnQAtkJgy4qc/XkQM1fb0RAhWNvO1pZyXDuOct+9 4JU9CqZXfdMeStOdv7pDrT3ZkVZs+uZmJ1VJzhZof1PBRi0q+5WhKaw5Hs4FQGsH+j6dHZqzm HcFYnELLWh5xW5WPIAqpvwPKwoH6ibuX11DT0+cfFeNh9+PHhLyzR6EB5o/G6Q8PiKdzLakp4 lKhHBOnCncoOT8i9Lo7Ujn4CyRMwAb6hV5AnEjluTYMNdhaeSi0NskvRQ7NoEcCrosTaqq1gH TGPKCi0MVEcmdFctwPdLZzvAXamhskW+htbJkS6sUXFcp56CDbvIlatkK9Y9XU2/445W5FZYp Eattwqh0wx315d99bH94k6WfhMchHIxjfMlmjduZLRMSC9E6UqOZQ2UoCZdL0Hqq7Tlz/N2Rk CUEi4FoiTNcESsbGMtwoUAuBUhQufmCQXvFg1TUDauJaD1oeg/Nwv82eGfCbX+reHgSP4Clpq SlRbIyJaKQKmKkptBRTCHC+Ukhb1enwAGHdC/NAy2XRU8G1BJ0/fltvHvZaV3Uvzn5JyO5Hzq 0dAfLuufh8PfDWY37iMG38RayE6QoNMRK8bD68dopO2g5N2g792U1ar06Xvf4eqt1x30XvO4w lfSBenKcDyVCkWS8zVq7gvjLJxtDnPVnIthkEPc0CoofR0KUIBf24NCB4aPHk+9eiDT6QO8Ln unWfkWveQYeZRzxdEAQLcGFrtSp6qYTo8jLpQd+dpe0Ye8gKGBSo9Hf0fYWf4VITilovK/G5F 5bkrDprnrwYDNTMcNMloSeGlOueF/9YfhEd4BNph6WS87D/a8iTXdG09JdwS4//MEQg6ZRYCW 2atm73u5rZKEdgiQoGjpHhjRM1in68tevnuxchef5P8xsoP5Floj/tUz7EJ6bGYWKRHOY605X z95AAVcnCQkP50= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54551 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 54551@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 07:10:36 +0000 goncholden via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" wrote: > I am debugging a problem where emacs states that there exists an extra > closing parenthesis, but having extreme difficulty locating it. > > Have split the file in two and using "require" on a child file. Otherwise > I have to comment each line of code rather than whole sections. Commenting > each line is likely to introduce errors if one is not very careful removing > the comment tags. Have you tried calling `check-parens' in the files? Steve Berman From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 25 05:32:40 2022 Received: (at 54551) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2022 09:32:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50124 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXgJE-0001RA-Hy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 05:32:40 -0400 Received: from smtp-3.orcon.net.nz ([60.234.4.44]:32849) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXgJC-0001R2-VN for 54551@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 05:32:39 -0400 Received: from [10.253.37.70] (port=50608 helo=webmail.orcon.net.nz) by smtp-3.orcon.net.nz with esmtpa (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nXgJ5-0005Xi-KA; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 22:32:31 +1300 Received: from ip-139-180-65-103.kinect.net.nz ([139.180.65.103]) via [10.253.37.253] by webmail.orcon.net.nz with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Fri, 25 Mar 2022 22:32:31 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 22:32:31 +1300 From: Phil Sainty To: Stephen Berman Subject: Re: bug#54551: show-paren-mode inconsistency In-Reply-To: <877d8ixvn0.fsf@gmx.net> References: <83ee2rccyk.fsf@gnu.org> <837d8icyva.fsf@gnu.org> <877d8ixvn0.fsf@gmx.net> Message-ID: <84862334f5a8cf165a75dbda7dfd27f1@webmail.orcon.net.nz> X-Sender: psainty@orcon.net.nz User-Agent: Orcon Webmail X-GeoIP: -- X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54551 Cc: 54551@debbugs.gnu.org, goncholden X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 2022-03-25 21:51, Stephen Berman wrote: > Have you tried calling `check-parens' in the files? I think this is a continuation of https://emacs.stackexchange.com/q/71076 in which various things were tried to no avail. I feel that "put the files online somewhere for other people to look at" is the sensible next move. -Phil From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 25 06:15:39 2022 Received: (at 54551) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2022 10:15:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50165 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXgyp-0002cC-7E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 06:15:39 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39526) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXgyo-0002bw-1N for 54551@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 06:15:38 -0400 Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=45100 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nXgyi-0003TL-5I; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 06:15:32 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=dDDKfa4WDt4TNTpsOD9AE7FVVQtPQEgHVocLczmd+yM=; b=aHqIrcKo+SMw NQNzHOWEXawtRThLp8JZWLcH8kGBaE7ZXLZtaXpJRKEqA/Nh0odtV8E35Mf9/xGAB6Bil6sIDg488 alYTfe9qC7pfVaP2v3TFb1R09j8K8aQ6pLVp1ylJpGXkF8AKIOTghQsgSCBLoKTJEQz39Te/aH/+s z4eyVpTuNCLwIuCe6sMr5ZNQkBt+2J37jRySGx5riVIsecB1lqleImzIS+oJUjXBXmzF5EGO83wjY v+y9tdvKyNijlAPYo1EVE4kaVHftMs9irN5XbvhUNsfGdTxr5J70+ouRA7NKx9T6Ny6pE/5TevYk9 8S6vHdEe4P2FaRXC0U/tpQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4883 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nXgyX-0006pp-JF; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 06:15:30 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 13:15:16 +0300 Message-Id: <83zglebaob.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: goncholden In-Reply-To: (message from goncholden on Fri, 25 Mar 2022 08:35:09 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#54551: show-paren-mode inconsistency References: <83ee2rccyk.fsf@gnu.org> <837d8icyva.fsf@gnu.org> <831qyqcxal.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54551 Cc: 54551@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 08:35:09 +0000 > From: goncholden > Cc: 54551@debbugs.gnu.org > > > I don't think any of this, or the problem you are trying to solve, is > > relevant to what show-paren does, though. > > Not to what show-paren does, but about tools to isolate or focus on specific > sections of code. Could there be a way to ignore sections of code without > requiring commenting? Several people just gave you advice about some ways of doing that. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 25 07:47:59 2022 Received: (at 54551) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2022 11:47:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50367 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXiPv-0007TW-V0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 07:47:59 -0400 Received: from mail-4027.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.27]:31702) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXiPq-0007S5-TX for 54551@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 07:47:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 11:47:31 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail; t=1648208852; bh=VHForOcHCYqS4EjbUwc5rlDUAhbm8ghcNDN3PfaijXQ=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID; b=AMbHrM+rAVjoRXpG1WBSWPFNDKnlACBcCbFZMmEcdMziugjINpWUqiwkLy8RVeynD EDxtZE81xCqIbbKJdtNDGtPSCwJq6AvbBsh+Q+kNC13BHoMCN86DcjjwpgcbXFivSF FgjK3ju6ZHxPZkZ8fLMXggpzUC0NNQUcCbGWoADYE/IlG4o6nf4NuGGKdjkxY5C/R3 jChrrDA1NI2bB2lSwR5MJdVbRDtqUEQ8Lql2x5F4EUaNy4B8O3f3GW0+12/rHNdYN3 uzilc61saiiHCBFBsXidkaDFIqKYkJuJbBPert8j+JFHa8rF8uYQ+7AWtR4G+fBnyZ uWCkaA3kdqnXA== To: Stephen Berman From: goncholden Subject: Re: bug#54551: show-paren-mode inconsistency Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <877d8ixvn0.fsf@gmx.net> References: <83ee2rccyk.fsf@gnu.org> <837d8icyva.fsf@gnu.org> <877d8ixvn0.fsf@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54551 Cc: 54551@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: goncholden Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) ------- Original Message ------- On Friday, March 25th, 2022 at 8:51 PM, Stephen Berman wrote: > On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 07:10:36 +0000 goncholden via "Bug reports for GNU Em= acs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org wrote: > > > I am debugging a problem where emacs states that there exists an extra > > > > closing parenthesis, but having extreme difficulty locating it. > > > > Have split the file in two and using "require" on a child file. Otherwi= se > > > > I have to comment each line of code rather than whole sections. Comment= ing > > > > each line is likely to introduce errors if one is not very careful remo= ving > > > > the comment tags. > > Have you tried calling `check-parens' in the files? > Steve Berman Have not played with that, no. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 25 07:57:00 2022 Received: (at 54551) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2022 11:57:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50381 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXiYu-0007i5-49 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 07:57:00 -0400 Received: from mail-4318.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.18]:42061) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXiYr-0007hp-QT for 54551@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 07:56:58 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 11:56:50 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail; t=1648209411; bh=AAyV3b3dXqG9mvFyJsUmVrFfOie350MPRBmmBIWcyBk=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID; b=McOORNm5/UDk2oD0ni+uiFc87stMXDebSkjhi2VJm92KOgKAm+c2mZCzPTzDkmaJ3 qdKVpNjBm2KR+GD1tpQ6ar83p0CQTPIGWsqlbdC1gAVmhNOp+TnGYj4c8AQ+ip55yh XK66JZfuBCI1p8D+Oi5vH6sw7jrlqwcVokihdhEhj7ZULN7XQEYN5mR86MTS1/t8WY EqPRBfTcbdI8VawBgQTzSOiLi84dJeLFUPiE0f/G0tHUEB1yiQQhLqJSBIeLqXtgRg iPgsrpyc75rKGGdYgFmeI9/R26AoQ8gpRfxL73tJkYVbiHlw+7BDB2DVC54lPqNTNg +Es8m8IDckIQw== To: Stephen Berman From: goncholden Subject: Re: bug#54551: show-paren-mode inconsistency Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <83ee2rccyk.fsf@gnu.org> <837d8icyva.fsf@gnu.org> <877d8ixvn0.fsf@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54551 Cc: 54551@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: goncholden Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) ------- Original Message ------- On Friday, March 25th, 2022 at 11:47 PM, goncholden wrote: > ------- Original Message ------- > > On Friday, March 25th, 2022 at 8:51 PM, Stephen Berman stephen.berman@gmx= .net wrote: > > > On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 07:10:36 +0000 goncholden via "Bug reports for GNU = Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org wrote: > > > > > I am debugging a problem where emacs states that there exists an extr= a > > > > > > closing parenthesis, but having extreme difficulty locating it. > > > > > > Have split the file in two and using "require" on a child file. Other= wise > > > > > > I have to comment each line of code rather than whole sections. Comme= nting > > > > > > each line is likely to introduce errors if one is not very careful re= moving > > > > > > the comment tags. > > > > Have you tried calling `check-parens' in the files? > > > > Steve Berman > > Have not played with that, no. Need some assistance on using check-parens. Have done "M-x check-parens", what do I have to do after that, and what should I chec= k? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 25 08:00:46 2022 Received: (at 54551) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2022 12:00:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50390 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXicY-0007pA-Ie for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 08:00:46 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:50619) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXicV-0007ow-PQ for 54551@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 08:00:44 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1648209635; bh=76wnYPuLYRT8t9tK0MLxVVAzyu4nroWsSd+KNePGFq4=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=NOhDCE/QWYyWGTAS+7X5kUkJnw7Gt7EwS2sH9N2ACshH2w3y0x2YAY2fic09n7vHp eOjNXjpQA4wgdRE46ZshiDfeMhSmXO5BxtqxabewzJu+yVSbQrwYjmKUvAhovL4LiB 3ySLRM9hTkdlBAyS9ta3DCTGludDdR25H+pBDnKQ= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from strobelfs2 ([89.246.38.254]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MatVh-1o4qNc1qeJ-00cQZE; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 13:00:35 +0100 From: Stephen Berman To: goncholden Subject: Re: bug#54551: show-paren-mode inconsistency References: <83ee2rccyk.fsf@gnu.org> <837d8icyva.fsf@gnu.org> <877d8ixvn0.fsf@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 13:00:34 +0100 In-Reply-To: (goncholden@protonmail.com's message of "Fri, 25 Mar 2022 11:56:50 +0000") Message-ID: <87wngiw8bh.fsf@rub.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:dVm09AEK5ocpvJnHq8FKYM5BKSkVgHxH1w8UNwerF1rOxWynypg Oo6mTS2NtsqpE3a5Dsw0njHHedrnrEyAn+f5Ehwdiw+jLuFWk6ajwnEcfQXwDbtF1c+4I/o VAaOh8zDkUZExne+jEBa2ahRfoD8aH5tLmhWE38ZK6beNhYwUj8A0ZH1MX6Bp3526RBz218 8R5Wx92cvyHPvMcKrKaww== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:HgUQpumKhJk=:1vGWHC/PBh7bbN2LeI4js/ zapqFZkStJLtT1ABNJT50bSCLGInvHb9VXeBUS4aDzGhEOupiDna6r3aayDHaF9A88GFO01BN sDZ/u4BPT9Uhu1jkEpHaHiJH63LVNDU63J1lv5otTsHws4RXzppkdumro3YZunL/Dn3wL/7dG VN0Cp3lbssaJJ/sx+8oOHlFaKoX6APLAJNDtTLbnNc4ov1csvAmLuNsjq37+o0H+VT6s+KHRQ Lhj5UG5JGsEotppqAMKtxbBa5I7am399IMN2oNQLMpSHCfCfSdOc3tw+5AUmwoZJuMYIsA3P1 qUJYNY5qGoFjoHT0qhZ6cxyQlcr8/6gWkimsTQOlsUJTsg0bq/Z2URMGaOnobTYaRnONmiyNJ qcdgt3mFQ01SjeO/62xttk321d8WA1NHFZngHyT7Hx+O+UYOHsfYqJab6/i2TyBAA/xJuQEOv WXJCVdQ/XzRRZ1SLZUh/IrEpx3ZHNAFlrYD/a3jpmCW35472J0Qv6I5/CopVQ7cl7S4NTZA9z gKaPs5iWcpdH1Xp+Z+77Gvw4VBZ7UR2S+O1troi5mOWi/0wOpiy4wo1mbVijTQymNf0JuYlpv RemEuqLv2Pa0k5OiM/wDR88FdPxApywqKrexqFE69qt+ZoUt3SgeUeNEPkBiLje10y3W/LQil RJM7u1hJXG0sUKPU4UsQSjXPNmc0kgZY96Wm0Rq+4dK2+ATOi5VFapg/OrUPXToEmZrkLb4OJ AOb8E7YxNryUbCfVA7cTORwPaHakF/EPCgr+kehp2ipmRxTllsoaaZFu7SXkG3EH7ezhdYeXN kRlNqAa5UrkcZ95wEQBvD8v3cx+AEj+wVUTFOgLTYnuqooDBzuRQFMZT1swE+FVFe6v2znMfX veem1r+dbX283E7uzp8u4QIYCYEVSOivntK7sLoswGcoLy03ycQadeP84XBd1VdftsDwVHe2z v5Aubw4BnezEPEefKul/jt00N81EE2/kqGQPjLvLXacSWdSMG001Okz89j1uFHpk2zHytlM6n 4CL7ysTIUu2cZwNeexh4JHmv5jtYdfUPL4hDXETs9StKcuSitt4GJ0Ti2scr11othEaQBGaUr ZMXq7QhETpsak0= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54551 Cc: 54551@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 11:56:50 +0000 goncholden wrote: > ------- Original Message ------- > > On Friday, March 25th, 2022 at 11:47 PM, goncholden > wrote: > >> ------- Original Message ------- >> >> On Friday, March 25th, 2022 at 8:51 PM, Stephen Berman >> stephen.berman@gmx.net wrote: >> >> > On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 07:10:36 +0000 goncholden via "Bug reports for GNU >> > Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org wrote: >> > >> > > I am debugging a problem where emacs states that there exists an extra >> > > >> > > closing parenthesis, but having extreme difficulty locating it. >> > > >> > > Have split the file in two and using "require" on a child file. Otherwise >> > > >> > > I have to comment each line of code rather than whole sections. Commenting >> > > >> > > each line is likely to introduce errors if one is not very careful removing >> > > >> > > the comment tags. >> > >> > Have you tried calling `check-parens' in the files? >> > >> > Steve Berman >> >> Have not played with that, no. > > Need some assistance on using check-parens. Have done > "M-x check-parens", what do I have to do after that, and what should I check? If `check-parens' finds an unbalanced parenthesis, it moves point to that position. If point doesn't change in the buffer you called `check-parens' in, then that buffer has no unbalanced parentheses. Steve Berman From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 25 12:26:05 2022 Received: (at 54551) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2022 16:26:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52290 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXmlJ-0006po-6g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 12:26:05 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:43174) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nXmlG-0006pG-Hk for 54551@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 12:26:03 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=6qZLpwxOHdOR7IM02nOW7aCnZtK0k54G6kGQOnnQ/bE=; b=qbKsRUSXcdvOMLA0hFkfnFbxU3 uk3Ki5a706uwrib8ls9LiJFXe9rbjLHUD9W6YqE/od2lveL20+j2HHIoCXOd2xUP7XV6Drxe4lFwo mn6y6BEI62vpnRdYH7PlWe+XC682Q077b5tNrvnzkFNJ2Rb6euLXhiRYyh1bfBG8fnkA=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nXml7-0004sg-MB; Fri, 25 Mar 2022 17:25:56 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Phil Sainty Subject: Re: bug#54551: show-paren-mode inconsistency References: <7616848ebf32694e0aa0a7f89e97ef35@webmail.orcon.net.nz> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 17:25:53 +0100 In-Reply-To: <7616848ebf32694e0aa0a7f89e97ef35@webmail.orcon.net.nz> (Phil Sainty's message of "Fri, 25 Mar 2022 10:34:23 +1300") Message-ID: <87fsn6dmni.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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