From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 14 10:48:10 2022 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2022 14:48:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45939 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nTlzW-0005e5-1l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2022 10:48:10 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:45330) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nTlzU-0005dy-JP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2022 10:48:08 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59904) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nTlzT-0001Ec-2y for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2022 10:48:08 -0400 Received: from dustycloud.org ([50.116.34.160]:40540) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nTlzR-0006Np-JJ for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2022 10:48:06 -0400 Received: from chicory (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dustycloud.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1471326626 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2022 10:48:02 -0400 (EDT) User-agent: mu4e 1.6.10; emacs 27.2 From: Christine Lemmer-Webber To: bug-guix@gnu.org Subject: xscreensaver seems to be missing xscreensaver-demo Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2022 10:47:22 -0400 Message-ID: <87sfrk380y.fsf@dustycloud.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=50.116.34.160; envelope-from=cwebber@dustycloud.org; helo=dustycloud.org X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Not sure why but the latest xscreensaver package no longer includes the xscreensaver-demo executable afaict? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 14 13:29:01 2022 Received: (at 54385-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2022 17:29:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46203 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nToVB-0001nr-K7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2022 13:29:01 -0400 Received: from tobias.gr ([80.241.217.52]:52356) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nToV9-0001ni-Dy for 54385-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2022 13:29:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=2018; bh=w6Mdm05+gFk16 8i7aTx2RFfs3nsUJWkZFE8pQ8EeqLM=; h=references:in-reply-to:subject:cc: to:from:date; d=tobias.gr; b=InZWHMUE1DpsEZXDokNLVOd1FsabD0UryceH1qkZQ /37eOHvcg25+DaKFeHJZoCbZOb9OjwgrtUdPHtSen0W6dbg5OTpkP6cqsfy+/sFqz3ErAJ /NL+vSupvGAimeidalI/qY63YoRGnlqt3SQ2J9BDjbINjlvMspJoVQsQlU74v0j9+vAGxz sH1i5R4wbxH5LMxjXZoUy3T8VVDIxTjURo7ohafII4FSGFzQpyQj3tILawo9NtiDctPeTd EZL7c+81QPWQDNflM3jDZ2YwXQRM8sZMrHCJ1QXFahcri5XFMh76V2bI2mgsJ69qUpae6e 5Xtrt4leT4I1ee+2cxzIg== Received: by submission.tobias.gr (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id babd0475; Mon, 14 Mar 2022 17:28:54 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2022 18:28:54 +0100 From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice To: Christine Lemmer-Webber Subject: Re: bug#54385: xscreensaver seems to be missing xscreensaver-demo In-Reply-To: <87sfrk380y.fsf@dustycloud.org> References: <87sfrk380y.fsf@dustycloud.org> Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54385-done Cc: 54385-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Christine, Note that the name of this tool has changed upstream[0], but we're still on an older version for now. Building it: Warning: GTK version 2.24.33 was found, but at least one supporting library (gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0) was not, so GTK can't be used. Perhaps some of the development packages are not installed? Warning: The GTK libraries do not seem to be available; the `xscreensaver-demo' program requires them. Where gdk-pixbuf-xlib is of course ‘a deprecated library’ and ‘[n]o newly written code should ever use this library’ so that'll be fun to maintain the coming years. Our gdk-pixbuf package still mentions gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc in an obsolete comment but doesn't actually install it. Oh: NEWS: - Split the gdk-pixbuf-xlib library to a separate repository The repository is archived and read-only: https://gitlab.gnome.org/Archive/gdk-pixbuf-xlib Oh that is going to be *super* fun to maintain. At this point I'd usually go ahead and package the beast, but I don't use xscreensaver. How important is this binary? (-demo sounds unimportant, -settings very, but it's presumably the same thing.) In any case an update to xscreensaver would seem prudent first. Kind regards, T G-R Sent from a Web browser. Excuse or enjoy my brevity. [0]: https://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/changelog.html From unknown Fri Jun 13 10:42:41 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: Did not alter fixed versions and reopened. Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2022 17:33:02 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # Did not alter fixed versions and reopened. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 15 08:39:26 2022 Received: (at 54385) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2022 12:39:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47789 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nU6SU-00074Q-4e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2022 08:39:26 -0400 Received: from dustycloud.org ([50.116.34.160]:39942) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nU6SS-00074J-Gb for 54385@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2022 08:39:25 -0400 Received: from chicory (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dustycloud.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2528A26626; Tue, 15 Mar 2022 08:39:20 -0400 (EDT) References: <87sfrk380y.fsf@dustycloud.org> User-agent: mu4e 1.6.10; emacs 27.2 From: Christine Lemmer-Webber To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice Subject: Re: bug#54385: xscreensaver seems to be missing xscreensaver-demo Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 08:34:21 -0400 In-reply-to: Message-ID: <877d8v2xvt.fsf@dustycloud.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54385 Cc: 54385@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) xscreensaver-demo makes it sound fairly unimportant, but -demo is how you launch the configuration GUI and select screensavers, turn on settings like when to lock, etc. For example, in XFCE, I went to click on the menus to select "screensaver" and it said xscreensaver-demo was missing. I imagine this could be confusing. It confused me. Looks like we're not the only ones hitting this issue: https://bugs.gentoo.org/753905 Tobias Geerinckx-Rice writes: > Hi Christine, > > Note that the name of this tool has changed upstream[0], but we're > still on an older version for now. Building it: > > Warning: GTK version 2.24.33 was found, but at least one supporting > library (gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0) was not, so GTK can't be > used. > Perhaps some of the development packages are not installed? > > Warning: The GTK libraries do not seem to be available; the > `xscreensaver-demo' program requires them. > > Where gdk-pixbuf-xlib is of course =E2=80=98a deprecated library=E2=80=99= and =E2=80=98[n]o > newly written code should ever use this library=E2=80=99 so that'll be fu= n to=20 > maintain the coming years. > > Our gdk-pixbuf package still mentions gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc in an > obsolete comment but doesn't actually install it. > > Oh: > > NEWS: - Split the gdk-pixbuf-xlib library to a separate repository > > The repository is archived and read-only: > > https://gitlab.gnome.org/Archive/gdk-pixbuf-xlib > > Oh that is going to be *super* fun to maintain. > > At this point I'd usually go ahead and package the beast, but I don't > use xscreensaver. How important is this binary? (-demo sounds=20 > unimportant, -settings very, but it's presumably the same thing.) > > In any case an update to xscreensaver would seem prudent first. > > Kind regards, > > T G-R > > Sent from a Web browser. Excuse or enjoy my brevity. > > [0]: https://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/changelog.html