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29.0.50; EWW not showing images in some websites

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From: payas <relekarpayas <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 29.0.50; EWW not showing images in some websites
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2022 21:56:49 +0530

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In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.31, cairo version 1.16.0)
Repository revision: ca3858563c7ba8ee3caa82fbd2b7c386ea60c0d3
Repository branch: master
System Description: NixOS 22.05 (Quokka)

Configured using:
 ’configure
 –prefix=/nix/store/hnjrix1rjm95l1blqscmzdn6q0gc78dc-emacs-pgtkgcc-20220225.0
 –disable-build-details –with-modules –with-x-toolkit=gtk3
 –with-cairo –with-native-compilation –with-pgtk’

Configured features:
CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON
LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY
PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS XIM GTK3 ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $EMACSLOADPATH:
  value of $EMACSNATIVELOADPATH: /nix/store/pgpr5pshgjvr5mx6l5w3mqxjvph6ip3k-emacs-packages-deps/share/emacs/native-lisp::
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: eww

Minor modes in effect:
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  override-global-mode: t
  savehist-mode: t
  vertico-mode: t
  global-git-commit-mode: t
  magit-auto-revert-mode: t
  shell-dirtrack-mode: t
  minions-mode: t
  global-display-line-numbers-mode: t
  display-line-numbers-mode: t
  global-hl-line-mode: t
  pixel-scroll-precision-mode: t
  straight-use-package-mode: t
  straight-package-neutering-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  buffer-read-only: t
  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  global-visual-line-mode: t
  visual-line-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

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Message #8 received at 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Payas Relekar <relekarpayas <at> gmail.com>
To: 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2022 00:17:54 +0530

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I see at least one more bug with similar description although lack
expertise to confirm myself :
 #37577

This one is targeting beta for current stable version, which I do not have
anymore.

Let me know if I can provide more information.

Thanks,
Payas

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Message #11 received at 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
To: payas <relekarpayas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54246: 29.0.50; EWW not showing images in some websites
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2022 08:42:29 +0800

payas <relekarpayas <at> gmail.com> writes:

> In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.31, cairo version 1.16.0) Repository revision: ca3858563c7ba8ee3caa82fbd2b7c386ea60c0d3
> Repository branch: master System Description: NixOS 22.05 (Quokka) 
>
> Configured using: ’configure
> –prefix=/nix/store/hnjrix1rjm95l1blqscmzdn6q0gc78dc-emacs-pgtkgcc-20220225.0
> –disable-build-details –with-modules –with-x-toolkit=gtk3 –with-cairo
> –with-native-compilation –with-pgtk’
>
> Configured features: CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS
> HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 MODULES
> NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3
> THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS XIM GTK3 ZLIB

What webpage is that, and which images do you expect to show up?

Thanks.

Message #14 received at 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
To: Payas Relekar <relekarpayas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54246: 29.0.50; EWW not showing images in some websites
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2022 11:35:53 +0800

Payas Relekar <relekarpayas <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Check this page or any other pages on this site:
>
> https://christine.website/blog/new-language-blog-backend-2022-03-02
>
> I checked with author or the site and they were able to see images in
> older version of Emacs.

That site works fine for me inside EWW on Emacs 29, all the images
display normally.  Perhaps you're missing some image libraries?  Try
building with ImageMagick support ('--with-imagemagick').

Thanks.

Message #17 received at 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Payas Relekar <relekarpayas <at> gmail.com>
To: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
Cc: 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54246: 29.0.50; EWW not showing images in some websites
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2022 08:51:31 +0530

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Hi Po,

Check this page or any other pages on this site:

https://christine.website/blog/new-language-blog-backend-2022-03-02

I checked with author or the site and they were able to see images in older
version of Emacs.

Thanks,
Payas

On Sat, 5 Mar, 2022, 06:12 Po Lu, <luangruo <at> yahoo.com> wrote:

> payas <relekarpayas <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
> > In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
> 3.24.31, cairo version 1.16.0) Repository revision:
> ca3858563c7ba8ee3caa82fbd2b7c386ea60c0d3
> > Repository branch: master System Description: NixOS 22.05 (Quokka)
> >
> > Configured using: ’configure
> >
> –prefix=/nix/store/hnjrix1rjm95l1blqscmzdn6q0gc78dc-emacs-pgtkgcc-20220225.0
> > –disable-build-details –with-modules –with-x-toolkit=gtk3 –with-cairo
> > –with-native-compilation –with-pgtk’
> >
> > Configured features: CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS
> > HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 MODULES
> > NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3
> > THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS XIM GTK3 ZLIB
>
> What webpage is that, and which images do you expect to show up?
>
> Thanks.
>

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Message #20 received at 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Payas Relekar <relekarpayas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: luangruo <at> yahoo.com, 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54246: 29.0.50; EWW not showing images in some websites
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2022 08:48:39 +0200

> From: Payas Relekar <relekarpayas <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2022 08:51:31 +0530
> Cc: 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Check this page or any other pages on this site:
> 
> https://christine.website/blog/new-language-blog-backend-2022-03-02

They are WebP and AVIF images, and your build evidently doesn't have
support for them built in.

> I checked with author or the site and they were able to see images in older version of Emacs.

Perhaps that older version did support those images, maybe because it
was built with ImageMagick.

Message #23 received at 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Payas Relekar <relekarpayas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: luangruo <at> yahoo.com, 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54246: 29.0.50; EWW not showing images in some websites
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2022 09:30:30 +0200

[Please, no private email.  Please use Reply All to reply.]

> From: Payas Relekar <relekarpayas <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2022 12:42:18 +0530
> 
> I will be able test with imagemagick once I get to my computer, but if the recommended default is to not do
> so, isn't this a regression? A format once supported by defaults is no longer supported by new defaults, it
> means the replacement wasn't fully ready.

We want to move from ImageMagick because it has stability and
security issues.  ImageMagick build is still supported, though.

Emacs 29 also support externally converted images; see
image-use-external-converter and image-converter.el.

We could also support building with libwebp and dav1d; patches
welcome.

Message #26 received at 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: payas <relekarpayas <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: luangruo <at> yahoo.com, 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54246: 29.0.50; EWW not showing images in some websites
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2022 23:27:57 +0530

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Hi,

I just rebuilt Emacs master with nativecomp+pgtk+imagemagick and can confirm the issue is still present.

I tested with full Doom-emacs config, a minimal from-scratch config as well as ’wmacs -Q’ and issue is present on all 3.

Testing older Emacs version will be bit challenging for now, but I will see what I can do over coming week.

Also about the images being WebP/AVIF, I see an explicit image tag with `jpeg' file as src, can eww not prioritise that?
I disctinctly remember Emacs/EWW was able to show this in the past, but I cannot recall what version and library support that was.

┌────
│ <picture>
│ <source srcset="https://cdn.christine.website/file/christine-static/stickers/mara/happy.avif" type="image/avif">
│ <source srcset="https://cdn.christine.website/file/christine-static/stickers/mara/happy.webp" type="image/webp">
│ <img src="https://cdn.christine.website/file/christine-static/stickers/mara/happy.png" alt="Mara is happy">
│ </picture>
└────

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> We want to move from ImageMagick because it has stability and
> security issues.  ImageMagick build is still supported, though.
>
> Emacs 29 also support externally converted images; see
> image-use-external-converter and image-converter.el.

I have tried doing this as well, but hasn’t worked for me yet. ’convert’ is present in PATH and Emacs variable is set but doesn’t seem to be working yet.
I will debug more when possible.

> We could also support building with libwebp and dav1d; patches
> welcome.

I know as much C as my cat, but I can help with testing and debugging if anyone else with the knowhow is willing to put in the time and work.

Thanks,
Payas

Message #29 received at 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: payas <relekarpayas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: luangruo <at> yahoo.com, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54246: 29.0.50; EWW not showing images in some websites
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2022 20:17:58 +0100

payas <relekarpayas <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Also about the images being WebP/AVIF, I see an explicit image tag
> with `jpeg' file as src, can eww not prioritise that?

The problem is more specific.  Put this in a file an open with
eww-open-file, and eww won't be able to display it:

<img src="https://cdn.christine.website/file/christine-static/stickers/mara/hmm.png" alt="Mara is hmm">

And the reason is that the web server responds to the fetch with an 401
Unauthorized.  So the CDN is just denying the requests.  I.e., it's a
server issue, not an Emacs issue.

(I don't know why it's doing this, though -- it's probably using AI to
determine if the request is "legitimate" or not, and some combination of
headers we're sending is tripping it.)

Ah!  It's Cloudflare:

CF-Cache-Status: BYPASS
Expect-CT: max-age=604800, report-uri="https://report-uri.cloudflare.com/cdn-cgi/beacon/expect-ct"

They have a lot of issues like this.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #32 received at 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: payas <relekarpayas <at> gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: luangruo <at> yahoo.com, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54246: 29.0.50; EWW not showing images in some websites
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2022 02:53:57 +0530

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Ah, we can consider the issue closed, then.

I will take this information to the author and see if they can do something to resolve on their end.

Thanks for helping along!

Regards,
Payas

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> payas <relekarpayas <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Also about the images being WebP/AVIF, I see an explicit image tag
>> with `jpeg’ file as src, can eww not prioritise that?
>
> The problem is more specific.  Put this in a file an open with
> eww-open-file, and eww won’t be able to display it:
>
> <img src=“<https://cdn.christine.website/file/christine-static/stickers/mara/hmm.png>” alt=“Mara is hmm”>
>
> And the reason is that the web server responds to the fetch with an 401
> Unauthorized.  So the CDN is just denying the requests.  I.e., it’s a
> server issue, not an Emacs issue.
>
> (I don’t know why it’s doing this, though – it’s probably using AI to
> determine if the request is “legitimate” or not, and some combination of
> headers we’re sending is tripping it.)
>
> Ah!  It’s Cloudflare:
>
> CF-Cache-Status: BYPASS
> Expect-CT: max-age=604800, report-uri=“<https://report-uri.cloudflare.com/cdn-cgi/beacon/expect-ct>”
>
> They have a lot of issues like this.

Message #35 received at 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: payas <relekarpayas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: luangruo <at> yahoo.com, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54246: 29.0.50; EWW not showing images in some websites
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2022 22:29:52 +0100

payas <relekarpayas <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Ah, we can consider the issue closed, then.
>
> I will take this information to the author and see if they can do
> something to resolve on their end.

I think it could be interesting to see whether some other mixture of
headers in the requests gets beyond the Cloudflare block -- they do,
after all, handle most of the traffic that goes over the Internet now,
so we'll be seeing a lot of these breakages.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #40 received at 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: payas <relekarpayas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: luangruo <at> yahoo.com, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54246: 29.0.50; EWW not showing images in some websites
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2022 17:42:14 +0100

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> I think it could be interesting to see whether some other mixture of
> headers in the requests gets beyond the Cloudflare block -- they do,
> after all, handle most of the traffic that goes over the Internet now,
> so we'll be seeing a lot of these breakages.

And this turned out to be a real bug -- we were sending an empty header
needlessly, and this triggered Cloudflare's anti-attack software.  I've
now fixed this in Emacs 29.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #45 received at 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: payas <relekarpayas <at> gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: luangruo <at> yahoo.com, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 54246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54246: 29.0.50; EWW not showing images in some websites
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2022 15:09:52 +0530

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Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> And this turned out to be a real bug – we were sending an empty header
> needlessly, and this triggered Cloudflare’s anti-attack software.  I’ve
> now fixed this in Emacs 29.

Thanks Lars! I can confirm the issue is now fixed.

Thanks,
Payas

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