From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:57:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#54237: Disabling `scroll-bar-mode' fails when setting `default-frame-alist' Resent-From: Tor Kringeland Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2022 14:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 54237 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 54237@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.1646318731626 (code B ref -1); Thu, 03 Mar 2022 14:46:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Mar 2022 14:45:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42040 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nPmhv-00009j-A0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2022 09:45:31 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:53570) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nPmhu-00008g-E9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2022 09:45:30 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35986) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nPmhs-0004e0-Qx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2022 09:45:29 -0500 Received: from mailgw101.it.ntnu.no ([129.241.56.177]:42564) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nPmho-0004pf-1P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2022 09:45:26 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ntnu.no; i=@ntnu.no; q=dns/txt; s=s1-1909-ntnu; t=1646318707; h=from : to : subject : date : message-id : mime-version : content-type : from; bh=cLFEWvO+a4TxAICeXkWZbuRODlTyNxNUlEmuQ0ld5j4=; b=D58qx9CDM+bewRo507JP8Grl4GQK36eWl2rVp5NxOOcTHMuEIamgsx3afDtTxIl+k0PnM nrSVcOH2/9X7mqMw4R5h2ryX7FRjam+p6szjidPOWXP5UezOm4rA8ubMbwjlkPyFdf1x+u+ mxB8KJLUWm7jVYKDy8zrpB9wt2/QTlogXPoOffoVsm9z0MWfhtL+uf+dyrBZeAALL604Od6 MS5xRb7UDkjAcGAotGT+dG9PkzZR9UNwILYOxsC00O+UsvEn/l8uNA1oFfUpIPZzBaMyOrk RL8WEWkUYme/AZRFYO+J+KpK6nTpz1PMixKcnczMtAEIuhGxVNqZwb+lb2eA== Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw101.it.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED0C1DE46DA for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2022 15:45:07 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailgw101.it.ntnu.no X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.6 X-Spam-Level: Received: from mailgw101.it.ntnu.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgw101.it.ntnu.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qxBOxrvbxBmc for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2022 15:45:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (unknown [84.247.50.178]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: takringe@ntnu.no) by mailgw101.it.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 71B421DE3E90 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2022 15:45:01 +0100 (CET) From: Tor Kringeland Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2022 15:44:56 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=129.241.56.177; envelope-from=tor.a.s.kringeland@ntnu.no; helo=mailgw101.it.ntnu.no X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Running emacs -Q --daemon -l test.el where the content of test.el is (scroll-bar-mode -1) (setq default-frame-alist '((cursor-color . "#007fff"))) fails to disable `scroll-bar-mode'. When opening an Emacs client, I have to toggle `scroll-bar-mode' two times to disable it. The first time it is "enabled" again (no visible change) and the second time it's disabled. The problem disappears if I remove the second line. I'm using Emacs 29 built from master earlier today. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Tor Kringeland writes: > emacs -Q --daemon -l test.el > > where the content of test.el is > > (scroll-bar-mode -1) > (setq default-frame-alist '((cursor-color . "#007fff"))) > > fails to disable `scroll-bar-mode'. When open [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Tor Kringeland writes: > emacs -Q --daemon -l test.el > > where the content of test.el is > > (scroll-bar-mode -1) > (setq default-frame-alist '((cursor-color . "#007fff"))) > > fails to disable `scroll-bar-mode'. When opening an Emacs client, I > have to toggle `scroll-bar-mode' two times to disable it. The first > time it is "enabled" again (no visible change) and the second time it's > disabled. The problem disappears if I remove the second line. > > I'm using Emacs 29 built from master earlier today. `scroll-bar-mode' disables itself by altering default-frame-alist, so I think what you're seeing is predictable? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 03 09:56:00 2022 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Mar 2022 14:56:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43318 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nPms4-0002VA-L8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2022 09:56:00 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:42224) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nPms2-0002Ux-Pl for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2022 09:55:59 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=nqNl89YT6WQ4rCnVAyhrRv+/d01i3Njx/32DMdUN0Rc=; b=L4L6Kh4fqZHp0CvEuTcFmghadK lPhooInxGcBbj633v4O/BY2CgLGGQoPRoZgl+Ipk3r5S6qDeqMzRCu6sVPwojZG1UNyaiGk2ZPsVR Z2y4EVD4ypf6Awdk9J496zJzoW4klmCPA4+9vDO1zxq7K9aTEauxRAwqkynxaX75+ukM=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nPmrv-000153-BA for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2022 15:55:53 +0100 Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2022 15:55:50 +0100 Message-Id: <877d9bhyq1.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #54237 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: tags 54237 + moreinfo quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 54237 + moreinfo quit From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:57:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#54237: Disabling `scroll-bar-mode' fails when setting `default-frame-alist' Resent-From: Tor Kringeland Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2022 15:15:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 54237 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 54237@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 54237-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B54237.164632046219975 (code B ref 54237); Thu, 03 Mar 2022 15:15:01 +0000 Received: (at 54237) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Mar 2022 15:14:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43365 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nPn9p-0005C7-Ru for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2022 10:14:22 -0500 Received: from mailgw301.it.ntnu.no ([129.241.56.179]:58846) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nPn9n-0005Bv-1H for 54237@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2022 10:14:20 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ntnu.no; i=@ntnu.no; q=dns/txt; s=s1-1909-ntnu; t=1646320456; h=from : to : cc : subject : in-reply-to : references : date : message-id : mime-version : content-type : from; bh=SvTRrOcnWKh5Hzd4mUpMwx0MiuuD6TDeRV8+kBANp38=; b=HXJzyyLCVk3hjEEyJBzMiyaZ825Sz3lB+hqVGnRegmZddLTwpZH4OlDEstIEmY8FPvn4l C8um6ZZ6HGlkAeEkuO4INmkS5FsheUQYm1ex5lGCHi+sYS0ytPLO8pgOqp47NWbVaCRsgTR oIT54GToNVC6nKx8RTerYSaFUn4GdZjyYOT9HCKdd5Rsq/55YJn3+/GOtAFRiHlal1cFoiJ IihDXMl9AbFvtvB9I7315LbARX9/uWAfiMajcZZk2mfcNByifF1rT1iEqrt0blfhCL6lj6X o0TS7ChyWyZ22E9rcxG2CjB/fI5j7tIMaYsVZ3yMhzFq4SjBcna5aWDq96Qw== Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw301.it.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48ED4684952; Thu, 3 Mar 2022 16:14:16 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailgw301.it.ntnu.no X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.6 X-Spam-Level: Received: from mailgw301.it.ntnu.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgw301.it.ntnu.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id adNQ_MgAgHzp; Thu, 3 Mar 2022 16:14:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (unknown [84.247.50.178]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: takringe@ntnu.no) by mailgw301.it.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DE08668494B; Thu, 3 Mar 2022 16:14:14 +0100 (CET) From: Tor Kringeland In-Reply-To: <878rtrhyqb.fsf@gnus.org> References: <878rtrhyqb.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2022 16:14:10 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > `scroll-bar-mode' disables itself by altering default-frame-alist, so I > think what you're seeing is predictable? I see, I didn't know. Can I disable `scroll-bar-mode' via `default-frame-alist' directly? The problem arose since `set-cursor-color' doesn't work when starting Emacs as a server so I changed `default-frame-alist' but that enabled `scroll-bar-mode' ... Feel free to close this as it's not a bug, then. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Tor Kringeland writes: >> `scroll-bar-mode' disables itself by altering default-frame-alist, so I >> think what you're seeing is predictable? > > I see, I didn't know. Can I disable `scroll-bar-mode' via > `default-frame-al [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Tor Kringeland writes: >> `scroll-bar-mode' disables itself by altering default-frame-alist, so I >> think what you're seeing is predictable? > > I see, I didn't know. Can I disable `scroll-bar-mode' via > `default-frame-alist' directly? Yes, for new frames, you can just set: (setq default-frame-alist '((vertical-scroll-bars))) > The problem arose since `set-cursor-color' doesn't work when starting > Emacs as a server so I changed `default-frame-alist' but that enabled > `scroll-bar-mode' ... > > Feel free to close this as it's not a bug, then. Perhaps this quirk should be documented in the scroll-bar-mode doc string, though? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:57:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#54237: [External] : bug#54237: Disabling `scroll-bar-mode' fails when setting `default-frame-alist' Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2022 15:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 54237 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Tor Kringeland Cc: "54237@debbugs.gnu.org" <54237@debbugs.gnu.org> Received: via spool by 54237-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B54237.164632279332674 (code B ref 54237); Thu, 03 Mar 2022 15:54:02 +0000 Received: (at 54237) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Mar 2022 15:53:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43468 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nPnlQ-0008Uv-Qx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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Yes, +1. Users shouldn't need to look in the code to find out that "`scroll-bar-mode' disables itself by altering default-frame-alist". From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:57:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#54237: Disabling `scroll-bar-mode' fails when setting `default-frame-alist' Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2022 15:58:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 54237 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Tor Kringeland Cc: 54237@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 54237-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B54237.164640942822180 (code B ref 54237); Fri, 04 Mar 2022 15:58:02 +0000 Received: (at 54237) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Mar 2022 15:57:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46672 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nQAIm-0005lf-JE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Mar 2022 10:57:08 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:54450) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nQAIl-0005lF-GL for 54237@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Mar 2022 10:57:08 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=zND9O4biMJGgFFSxv9xpKWTWPn8prtm2bWOqlTsR+1A=; b=HUp1u4llGbvosmUIv6ihcQjmwo TxUxwXIVf2UDFw1P5Vrfy/RbvBjJX8HDFpT27yBPxZ0M0MBqHeEHb4JEUufrAaKOQDfBkuMuMhNW3 qzmJFtAQjPCSl099dqL9UR1NIE77harA7hqDJhtvZz+N9uMZMpoZn2TsMx/3Ty7Ktr+Q=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nQAId-0006C5-7s; Fri, 04 Mar 2022 16:57:01 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <878rtrhyqb.fsf@gnus.org> <8735jzhxka.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: John Bender's _Third Noise Principle (Formative North American Electronica 1975-1984) (4)_: "36A3" Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2022 16:56:58 +0100 In-Reply-To: <8735jzhxka.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 03 Mar 2022 16:20:53 +0100") Message-ID: <87pmn1emnp.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> The problem arose since `set-cursor-color' doesn't work when starting >> Emacs as a server so I changed `default-frame-alist' but that enabled >> `scroll-bar-mode' ... >> >> Feel free to close this [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> The problem arose since `set-cursor-color' doesn't work when starting >> Emacs as a server so I changed `default-frame-alist' but that enabled >> `scroll-bar-mode' ... >> >> Feel free to close this as it's not a bug, then. > > Perhaps this quirk should be documented in the scroll-bar-mode doc > string, though? I've now done so in Emacs 29 in both the scroll-bar-mode and default-frame-alist doc strings. 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