From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 06 08:51:43 2022 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Feb 2022 13:51:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36813 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nGhx9-0008AD-3P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2022 08:51:43 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:60868) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nGhx6-0008A5-Fy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2022 08:51:41 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52948) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nGhx6-0002Dp-7b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2022 08:51:40 -0500 Received: from algon.dk ([212.99.233.66]:59204) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nGhx3-0007EK-8j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2022 08:51:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by algon.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF6E22DB7 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2022 14:51:33 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at algon.dk Received: from algon.dk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (odin.algon.dk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id W6_Dn7aflIlF for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2022 14:51:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from macal (unknown [85.83.136.51]) by algon.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C443920091 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2022 14:51:31 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Niels_S=C3=B8ndergaard?= To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 29.0.50; Follow the national way to use floating point numbers. Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2022 14:51:31 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.99.233.66; envelope-from=nisoni@algon.dk; helo=algon.dk X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) In alle European countries (except UK) we use decimal comma and dots for dots for tell thousands. Emacs only use the US/UK way with decimal dots and comma for thousands. The "right" way is already defined in the nationality ID, but configure this on my iMAC tells me, that emacs does not support languages. 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06 Feb 2022 14:51:31 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#53819: 29.0.50; Follow the national way to use floating point numbers. References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53819 Cc: 53819@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Niels Søndergaard > Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2022 14:51:31 +0100 > > > In alle European countries (except UK) we use decimal comma and dots for > dots for tell thousands. Emacs only use the US/UK way with decimal dots > and comma for thousands. > The "right" way is already defined in the nationality ID, but configure > this on my iMAC tells me, that emacs does not support languages. If we were to use the locale-specific conventions for decimal and thousands separators, then how could Emacs in locale A correctly read and execute a program written in locale B? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 06 10:56:10 2022 Received: (at 53819) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Feb 2022 15:56:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39641 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nGjta-0003el-2v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2022 10:56:10 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40786) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nGjtY-0003eZ-DL for 53819@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2022 10:56:09 -0500 Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=59438 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nGjtS-0000nK-Gc; Sun, 06 Feb 2022 10:56:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=WFDV5KOvGHlxQdvqmQnbNGkrP+Q3oTFX/zCd/BHcg3Q=; b=l+m+MEJJO1n2TUuKzwVs kK3J2bVbz3dfZgLEAGv4sAgbOn2qy6DReRTk6KgKTHLtW27Hki990UyGxGXVWWnQNGycKA01zRokN tnhX1u8z5z2gpdZGV6X/dtzAm4cWKd7GNyWZQiOHXwfSEXMHi1MPARGzvdhyVDck8fJ7jBzzFdDLp AlDrNCvhTU6njjgwxqF6G4gKezV4eumNxk1CoHfjuRuG7ZsOXFs4SpjSHLvt3mmFvTHvWpXh3BGkT wcTuifDXeaHFG7WiPPXDIhT40KVqLYP1hL7zRKIF9yat42VyVMx0W+SksvEkFsa82X58nour+nj64 Vz5UGQ39IJDMbw==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3732 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nGjtS-0000Nv-00; Sun, 06 Feb 2022 10:56:02 -0500 Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2022 17:55:46 +0200 Message-Id: <834k5cyoot.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Niels =?utf-8?Q?S=C3=B8ndergaard?= In-Reply-To: <3200B4BC-445D-48B4-9C8C-27E2BB7B6245@algon.dk> (message from Niels =?utf-8?Q?S=C3=B8ndergaard?= on Sun, 6 Feb 2022 15:31:43 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#53819: 29.0.50; Follow the national way to use floating point numbers. 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Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 15.0 \(3693.40.0.1.81\)) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C86F5F83-4847-43A4-915B-11AD5FB8E808" From: =?utf-8?Q?Niels_S=C3=B8ndergaard?= X-Mailbutler-Data: eyJzaWduYXR1cmVJRCI6IjFEOEY1NzZELTc3NjYtNDA4NC04MTk4LTU4REIyNTAzMjRDRSJ9 In-Reply-To: <834k5cyoot.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2022 17:00:43 +0100 X-Mailbutler-Message-Id: D05A85E4-9B58-44B5-8034-6ABDE3F2E04A Message-Id: <7C1A7F35-E9C0-49EA-A6B5-DB22745C0DE7@algon.dk> References: <83a6f4yt8y.fsf@gnu.org> <3200B4BC-445D-48B4-9C8C-27E2BB7B6245@algon.dk> <834k5cyoot.fsf@gnu.org> To: Eli Zaretskii X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3693.40.0.1.81) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53819 Cc: 53819@debbugs.gnu.org, =?utf-8?Q?Niels_S=C3=B8ndergaard?= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --Apple-Mail=_C86F5F83-4847-43A4-915B-11AD5FB8E808 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 sorry,=20 sometime I do forget the most obvious things=E2=80=A6.. It may have something to do with WorldWar II, but I've forgotten what mvh Niels Niels S=C3=B8ndergaard Marieh=C3=B8j 236, 2990 Niv=C3=A5 +45 4052 2789 niels@algon.dk = Ultra posse nemo obligatur. > Den 6. feb. 2022 kl. 16.55 skrev Eli Zaretskii : >=20 > [Please use Reply All to reply to messages, so that the bug tracker is > kept on the CC list.] >=20 >> From: Niels S=C3=B8ndergaard >> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2022 15:31:43 +0100 >>=20 >> A really good question, however I have two answers >>=20 >> 1. it works if an american send me a =E2=80=9Cnumbers" spreadsheet on = my iMAC, I think it works for the people >> using M$ Windows, but I have no idea why it works >> 2. it=E2=80=99s a nuisance, I=E2=80=99ve user comma=E2=80=99s for = decimal in 69 years (from 2 grade in school) >>=20 >> I would rather have to do something with the language, if I got at = file from CHINA, UK of US, than from all >> other places --Apple-Mail=_C86F5F83-4847-43A4-915B-11AD5FB8E808 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 sorry, 
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Den 6. feb. 2022 kl. 16.55 skrev Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:

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From: Niels S=C3=B8ndergaa= rd <nisoni@algon.dk>
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2022 = 15:31:43 +0100

A really good question, = however I have two answers

1. it works if = an american send me a =E2=80=9Cnumbers" spreadsheet on my iMAC, I think = it works for the people
using M$ Windows, but I have no = idea why it works
2. it=E2=80=99s a nuisance, I=E2=80=99ve = user comma=E2=80=99s for decimal in 69 years (from 2 grade in school)

I would rather have to do something with the = language, if I got at file from CHINA, UK of US, than from all
other places

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