From unknown Thu Aug 14 20:53:44 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#53633 <53633@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#53633 <53633@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 29.0.50; eldoc error: (void-variable o) Reply-To: bug#53633 <53633@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 03:53:44 +0000 retitle 53633 29.0.50; eldoc error: (void-variable o) reassign 53633 emacs submitter 53633 "Jean Louis" severity 53633 minor tag 53633 moreinfo thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 30 02:45:44 2022 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2022 07:45:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35499 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nE4u7-0000ro-W4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 02:45:44 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:47230) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nE4u4-0000re-L5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 02:45:43 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40746) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nE4tx-0007FS-FW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 02:45:39 -0500 Received: from premium126-2.web-hosting.com ([162.0.229.241]:36578) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nE4tv-0008L9-GV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 02:45:33 -0500 Received: from h13b9.n1.ips.mtn.co.ug ([41.210.147.185]:14339 helo=localhost) by premium126.web-hosting.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nE4s1-00F6my-Jq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 02:43:39 -0500 From: "Jean Louis" To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 29.0.50; eldoc error: (void-variable o) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 10:27:08 +0300 Message-ID: <86zgndheer.fsf@rcdrun.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - premium126.web-hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - rcdrun.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: premium126.web-hosting.com: authenticated_id: rcdrewer/from_h X-Authenticated-Sender: premium126.web-hosting.com: bugs@gnu.support X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-From-Rewrite: unmodified, already matched Received-SPF: pass client-ip=162.0.229.241; envelope-from=admin@rcdrun.com; helo=premium126-2.web-hosting.com X-Spam_score_int: -5 X-Spam_score: -0.6 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HAS_X_OUTGOING_SPAM_STAT=1.068, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.248, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) I can observe in the development version this error while programming Emacs Lisp: eldoc error: (void-variable o) It appears sometimes, I cannot know why and how. It appears when I am coming after some of functions, not all. Instead of showing me hint for the function in the message line, I see that error sometimes. 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It appears when I am > coming after some of functions, not all. Instead of showing me hint for > the function in the message line, I see that error sometimes. I don't think we can do anything with just this information. It happens in some mode in your non-default, customized Emacs session, so the problem can be anywhere. At the very least, please tell in which major mode this happens (each major mode has its own support for eldoc). Bonus points for providing a backtrace, e.g. by setting up a suitable debug-on-message trap for this error. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 30 11:15:10 2022 Received: (at 53633) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2022 16:15:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37425 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nECr7-0000N5-Qu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 11:15:10 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:36182) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nECqx-0000Eq-7m for 53633@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 11:15:07 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Zigl16LLcSjeCLMzAjPyaL/8EfNFMOj3gRP8MqlzKYY=; b=b7ubjvzGVS6rIHwVEaUa0oIoOh 6tHUn8RtWdcLf/rYfoTNqys7aWfDlSX9seCbbbzRiCDLfArcN3K7WCz16QGKqJxaVZP42q+YZ15R+ umRo53laBHREO8KCQ0oOyhSQWI4Ymdi2uKq+yQckunu+qQcrsWrWq9X1Mx+bfOIPcgeg=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nECqo-0007yu-NB; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 17:14:53 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "Jean Louis" Subject: Re: bug#53633: 29.0.50; eldoc error: (void-variable o) References: <86zgndheer.fsf@rcdrun.com> X-Now-Playing: Ida's _Ten Small Paces_: "Purely Coincidental" Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 17:14:49 +0100 In-Reply-To: <86zgndheer.fsf@rcdrun.com> (Jean Louis's message of "Sun, 30 Jan 2022 10:27:08 +0300") Message-ID: <87mtjd9p52.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: "Jean Louis" writes: > I can observe in the development version this error while programming > Emacs Lisp: > > eldoc error: (void-variable o) > > It appears sometimes, I cannot know why and how. It appears when I am > com [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53633 Cc: 53633@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) "Jean Louis" writes: > I can observe in the development version this error while programming > Emacs Lisp: > > eldoc error: (void-variable o) > > It appears sometimes, I cannot know why and how. It appears when I am > coming after some of functions, not all. Instead of showing me hint for > the function in the message line, I see that error sometimes. I've also seen this behaviour a couple of times, but I've never taken the time to debug it, because when it happens Emacs gets really hard to use. I think it happens when Emacs is updated and... then it starts complaining about void variables and functions. Restarting Emacs always makes the problem disappear. Do you also see this problem after doing a "git pull"? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 01 20:50:57 2022 Received: (at 53633) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Feb 2022 01:50:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51023 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nF4nQ-0005e3-Se for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2022 20:50:57 -0500 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:54433) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nF4nO-0005dp-UY for 53633@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2022 20:50:55 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.75.189.214]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000037FF2.0000000061F9E378.00004E15; Tue, 01 Feb 2022 18:50:48 -0700 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 04:47:31 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#53633: 29.0.50; eldoc error: (void-variable o) Message-ID: References: <86zgndheer.fsf@rcdrun.com> <87mtjd9p52.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87mtjd9p52.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/2.1.5+104 (cd3a5c8) (2022-01-09) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53633 Cc: 53633@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) * Lars Ingebrigtsen [2022-01-31 12:42]: > Do you also see this problem after doing a "git pull"? I can just assume that I found the cause of that bug, though cannot be sure. By mistake I wrote "o" somewhere in the Emacs Lisp file before the ";", like: o;;; But it should not happen. Yes, I use development version. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 02 12:52:38 2022 Received: (at 53633) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Feb 2022 17:52:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53418 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nFJo6-000614-1s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2022 12:52:38 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:42100) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nFJo4-00060n-29 for 53633@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2022 12:52:36 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=HUaqoq+AXQHMFc3vksokF1gDJkBiDQ2Oe08SQEKNFpQ=; b=GOnwjMK/24Zv/N39ZhmqwSaE1p 2KwvMReYmwYv4SneqwBsayCDwpoG4kum4ciGRnoWO3JPfmTKzDQhXnncZnAHZc10Ia0Ed+AS3R7dO Ieo7QRR+IZyrc1HB1IsGZxz9g5/i9Fe+sjr0ZnWtoWElB64uj11F2YRgKU6ZuCS9RrpE=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nFJnu-0006O0-3C; Wed, 02 Feb 2022 18:52:28 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Jean Louis Subject: Re: bug#53633: 29.0.50; eldoc error: (void-variable o) References: <86zgndheer.fsf@rcdrun.com> <87mtjd9p52.fsf@gnus.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAG1BMVEWYi3bcy67p1bPf zK5fVk1KQjyEeWpDPDb///9hueWkAAAAAWJLR0QIht6VegAAAAd0SU1FB+YCAhEzBDLioboAAAGq SURBVDjLrZRbTsMwEEUDiviOmQ1QewXj2QCPOPyCGpMNVKygabfPnbEdgVq+wFKiyMd33k5346+v 7hew+yMIzhZJAU6YhEUoDv1Y1pMBwZ4TIO8APvCkDcCKmhoM3DVFUOAbmPvpGxAnjpz6mOd+bgD2 hYP66BS442F6qYoY4SJEgDnlm9yPFcStPgoel+kKGFNejmv/Xk1tYEwp59OY3n8qQprGDMUF8IdP BWu+BCgTbOWlgtBAQuIAH4f9z7IHhJTzOT8NlyArehta5kIiUXbhFSDP+VQUkbBpqwCgVAFJBYvt r8u63ynQ6mprOZTzeF4eFLBoRyAz5+benEMRqqmk9tGnZEAHwQgDzMgxTa/PBlg252M+r+NyXPZF oVPFpK3FutPXbQPwDZ0X8uy4jShZHo7JiszItgFXBrRMl4RtqMkSxGTpPG5driCqgL2NuqoN4JuC lpE9ObjiGLkBNaU+2Vkg2utd1wHo+WghCXM5U0ApL+sVUrYBuzV6S8o+UwOtVr59xG+mgloupbQb VkwRgie53xSQGEDkejL4WAQBZxTQ9R/A/4EvkUS/H2sl77AAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIw MjItMDItMDJUMTc6NTE6MDQrMDA6MDBbfoihAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIyLTAyLTAy VDE3OjUxOjA0KzAwOjAwKiMwHQAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Cincinnati Jug Band's _Anthology of American Folk Music: Social Music (1)_: "Newport Blues" Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2022 18:52:24 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Jean Louis's message of "Wed, 2 Feb 2022 04:47:31 +0300") Message-ID: <87v8xxrw9z.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Jean Louis writes: >> Do you also see this problem after doing a "git pull"? > > I can just assume that I found the cause of that bug, though cannot be > sure. > > By mistake I wrote "o" somewhere in the Emacs Lisp file [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53633 Cc: 53633@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Jean Louis writes: >> Do you also see this problem after doing a "git pull"? > > I can just assume that I found the cause of that bug, though cannot be > sure. > > By mistake I wrote "o" somewhere in the Emacs Lisp file before the ";", like: > > o;;; > > But it should not happen. > > Yes, I use development version. Right. But did this problem appear in a running Emacs after you did a "git pull" while it was running? I'm wondering whether these errors are triggered by some (changed) parts of the eldoc machinery being loaded into a running Emacs... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 04 01:56:40 2022 Received: (at 53633) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Feb 2022 06:56:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58687 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nFsWO-0001iS-Bu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Feb 2022 01:56:40 -0500 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:58421) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nFsWM-0001i9-9m for 53633@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Feb 2022 01:56:39 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.75.189.214]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000067F42.0000000061FCCE20.00006EA3; Thu, 03 Feb 2022 23:56:31 -0700 Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2022 09:52:32 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#53633: 29.0.50; eldoc error: (void-variable o) Message-ID: References: <86zgndheer.fsf@rcdrun.com> <87mtjd9p52.fsf@gnus.org> <87v8xxrw9z.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87v8xxrw9z.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/2.1.5+104 (cd3a5c8) (2022-01-09) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53633 Cc: 53633@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) * Lars Ingebrigtsen [2022-02-02 20:53]: > Jean Louis writes: > > >> Do you also see this problem after doing a "git pull"? > > > > I can just assume that I found the cause of that bug, though cannot be > > sure. > > > > By mistake I wrote "o" somewhere in the Emacs Lisp file before the ";", like: > > > > o;;; > > > > But it should not happen. > > > > Yes, I use development version. > > Right. But did this problem appear in a running Emacs after you did a > "git pull" while it was running? I'm wondering whether these errors are > triggered by some (changed) parts of the eldoc machinery being loaded > into a running Emacs... Not while it was running. I have run the new instance of newest version. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 17 08:05:34 2022 Received: (at 53633) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jun 2022 12:05:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44030 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o2AjG-0000Kd-4x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:05:34 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:54622) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o2AjE-0000KM-Ix for 53633@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:05:33 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=5j+NXuLITSy+jaqQE8voJeuKR2Md8A8qy+YOTYgS0Fw=; b=qtbW9GXaKUmEZW/P5zVCAdiRBY v547ZMZqU8CakMEWyw6Ljecq/Zm1jikdvecvfiOFOyPDikaZSF/bHW2+qvavJDw2+ZmHCPqN1qteN YVYWwSmDa6D+SfWvxyjmoSvrtGhAK53o1Opj42KQ8IcHrKZm9LJrT59uGWUT824k7M94=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o2Aj5-0002jg-KF; Fri, 17 Jun 2022 14:05:25 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Jean Louis Subject: Re: bug#53633: 29.0.50; eldoc error: (void-variable o) References: <86zgndheer.fsf@rcdrun.com> <87mtjd9p52.fsf@gnus.org> <87v8xxrw9z.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: Loma's _Don't Shy Away_: "Jenny" Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2022 14:05:21 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Jean Louis's message of "Fri, 4 Feb 2022 09:52:32 +0300") Message-ID: <874k0jbim6.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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But I don't think there's much possibility of [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53633 Cc: 53633@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) The immediate cause of this bug was identified (a spurious `o'), but the general issue (eldoc sometimes signalling errors when it shouldn't) has not been. But I don't think there's much possibility of progress in this bug report, since the issue is unreproducible, so I'm closing this bug report. 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Content preview: * Lars Ingebrigtsen [2022-02-02 20:53]: > Jean Louis writes: > > >> Do you also see this problem after doing a "git pull"? > > > > I can just assume that I found th [...] Content analysis details: (2.7 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.6 RCVD_IN_SBL RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus SBL [197.239.5.201 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.1 DATE_IN_PAST_03_06 Date: is 3 to 6 hours before Received: date -0.0 T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE No description available. -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager * Lars Ingebrigtsen [2022-02-02 20:53]: > Jean Louis writes: > > >> Do you also see this problem after doing a "git pull"? > > > > I can just assume that I found the cause of that bug, though cannot be > > sure. > > > > By mistake I wrote "o" somewhere in the Emacs Lisp file before the ";", like: > > > > o;;; > > > > But it should not happen. > > > > Yes, I use development version. > > Right. But did this problem appear in a running Emacs after you did a > "git pull" while it was running? I'm wondering whether these errors are > triggered by some (changed) parts of the eldoc machinery being loaded > into a running Emacs... I am afraid I cannot know how to reproduce this again. Please close this bug. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ From unknown Thu Aug 14 20:53:44 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2022 11:24:07 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator