From unknown Mon Jun 23 23:52:26 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#53627: 29.0.50; Incorrect installation instructions Resent-From: worik Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 21:40:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 53627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 53627@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.164349236120747 (code B ref -1); Sat, 29 Jan 2022 21:40:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jan 2022 21:39:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35032 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nDvRH-0005OX-1N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 16:39:21 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:39334) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nDvRE-0005OO-DX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 16:39:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53488) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nDvRD-0002md-U0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 16:39:16 -0500 Received: from worik.org ([128.199.199.128]:56178 helo=mail.worik.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nDvRB-0007uw-1v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 16:39:15 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.70] (115-188-58-25-vdsl.sparkbb.co.nz [115.188.58.25]) by mail.worik.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 411F680260 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 10:39:05 +1300 (NZDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=worik.org; s=mail; t=1643492345; bh=ZOGVGukJeRKI3zlC6f9V2P2qNim17ZxpJgfhp+XzjN4=; h=Date:To:Subject:From:From; b=ZOswTXIs9Qn91L5xtLnoerdQL08pjL4v2Rs0X9olBlbicJi7GhlNFiktEJP2v9pHz 5wDmHrTKYs6mIbhltcAzIJQdvYT7FJ00qtapJDHR2NHSrnhXsdJtv5+7qqOtNuJZHF KtOAjmay9esG5/pyqUOlcp6jzAJ7LpztJ+IDv5pU= Message-ID: <3bcd862e-f6ba-92c5-899e-99ff93f5be9d@worik.org> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 10:39:03 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.5.0 Content-Language: en-GB From: worik Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=128.199.199.128; envelope-from=root@worik.org; helo=mail.worik.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) * Downloaded: git clone https://github.com/Stazed/rakarrack-plus.git * Read INSTALL * Tells me to run `./configure` * That does not exist. README references it too * Must run `./autogen.sh` first In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.20, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2022-01-30 built on munroe Repository revision: 96533c18b7f9d75dce9e6bb534a16ed4ccf44ad1 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12013000 System Description: Linux Mint 20.3 Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG LIBSELINUX MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XDBE XIM XPM GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LC_MONETARY: en_NZ.UTF-8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: en_NZ.UTF-8 value of $LC_TIME: en_NZ.UTF-8 value of $LANG: en_NZ.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t indent-tabs-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. 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If not now then when? If not here then where? So, here I stand, I can do no other root@worik.org 021-1680650, (03) 4821804 Aotearoa (New Zealand) From unknown Mon Jun 23 23:52:26 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#53627: 29.0.50; Incorrect installation instructions Resent-From: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 21:49:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: worik Cc: 53627@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 53627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B53627.164349294021882 (code B ref 53627); Sat, 29 Jan 2022 21:49:02 +0000 Received: (at 53627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jan 2022 21:49:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35074 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nDvad-0005gr-1I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 16:49:00 -0500 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.134]:56845) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nDvaZ-0005gb-Iz for 53627@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 16:48:57 -0500 Received: from VSL7V7PW ([92.116.183.199]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MiMIY-1mZcUp0Lws-00fUxB; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 22:48:49 +0100 From: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" References: <3bcd862e-f6ba-92c5-899e-99ff93f5be9d@worik.org> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 22:48:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: <3bcd862e-f6ba-92c5-899e-99ff93f5be9d@worik.org> (worik's message of "Sun, 30 Jan 2022 10:39:03 +1300") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:D5n/LVb3Tpb4L2SoAo97fj2hoXokJyc3CG12OOltEybQuM+OyIk E7aOd0pI2hoJztcjzELarPSi7QqrFv1CZpogzH/XVYlIxiZyBfDeYWqYbFG9M+Pp+Bemo9p tBJqj3YrGq39iHWs2DfxlLc/Zr8vLZNu3wWITMUTrhb4fytcP6igDVNgAYDdFKAmK1YP7Uz tbw0yDRhqenex7nuxvGZA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:CWvgZ65kfTs=:laq5eNEHv50/bdaKYP+X3u YETkl1VDEvgmCnYVasWB8AJtEkJ0gE1JGCECcEjRnLzijftoiVX9yvNsURSyuMKmeVJslYUnl CdPbhqBvvOLX2Ugx6AK6zH/kq8WpAqLexVmoEJCI08tq6k/9Ahs8W5ifbWkArhr/9gtcrIUTH 7UfMb53Z/9C3uOgqlry1ugRJyBHOmWIRdInfEe9L0DMrooxfELVLwtmbl+Uwayd/uiq+4BIYv aAXOOawzqssCN43HxSy/1ey5f/o2DOCDROXGuTZmRRfBnCRdhxlEkZ4bYach9zmqy0GkJjMit 0+O77DouWgaU7BdxOXrAHvxA9R8X2BvUrWa+D0wobjIS2oUQWAdGJX9IjMtsgT7oSwRldO4Au vSA2oyBMRShp5xKdZ4l41QPiXNnZUjqhSrr07fKHrO5H4vq1hFj8sXnEXtQOp0Wa+Qpd2gu4h oGli/E4hidsnxUO6FAc4MM5Q3dcpkU/q1m9ZMCA4grN/cAvKnQhwxA6GdJyIxziGSNJ4z5mF6 FOnLZ1FQlEgd5z76p6Lr3QvT7MLDKEdrPO73pWg48zw/YaYY7dxXWJQbn2KrGP9xRFTrq/XJO ELsje1p97fZjRdWAftbSlKJj0mdaUGMCY/eKx8FOwHnbnIKCJ6ktyYz7EgStwLj5IMP+PdTYY 7LEIhQEnSNeoDkLg2WTeAUVSk551sTHcvXjsLPYFcwRVpaNNXHKmZzfPFEk9eTFfr2MJFX+Ax UHguEwPTQFX19bb+ X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) worik writes: > * Downloaded: git clone https://github.com/Stazed/rakarrack-plus.git Please read INSTALL.REPO in the same directory, it says Building and Installing Emacs from the Repository ... To use the autotools, run the following shell command to generate the 'configure' script and some related files, and to set up your git configuration: $ ./autogen.sh You can then configure your build as follows: $ ./configure > * Read INSTALL > > * Tells me to run `./configure` > > * That does not exist. README references it too > > * Must run `./autogen.sh` first From unknown Mon Jun 23 23:52:26 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#53627: 29.0.50; Incorrect installation instructions Resent-From: worik Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 21:53:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" Cc: 53627@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 53627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B53627.164349314322263 (code B ref 53627); Sat, 29 Jan 2022 21:53:01 +0000 Received: (at 53627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jan 2022 21:52:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35081 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nDvdt-0005mz-3F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 16:52:23 -0500 Received: from worik.org ([128.199.199.128]:53734 helo=mail.worik.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nDvdp-0005mm-Im for 53627@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 16:52:19 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.70] (115-188-58-25-vdsl.sparkbb.co.nz [115.188.58.25]) by mail.worik.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0325B80260; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 10:52:14 +1300 (NZDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=worik.org; s=mail; t=1643493135; bh=NvjXxlF+d92ypfHBoytGlclREOCpeifo7RMRj0vDQ1Y=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=D/m3YnnLdYK8DvxhvJ3LkE3RtjOlWWg++JCHzqQsmfTZ7eA4KNdFPByX6xFOB8/2k R4qKoCHDU1BkalCVNWACb2EaLgrAFPP2SBM89rqGb/o2a2afg2jPamK0MbwKX6F5Mj oOuGwG/cD9d3o5Yaj5DGCjovqozFSnoBhwJ5k1SE= Message-ID: <9dc96b58-e2e1-89c1-1b09-364b4ae2df66@worik.org> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 10:52:13 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.5.0 Content-Language: en-GB References: <3bcd862e-f6ba-92c5-899e-99ff93f5be9d@worik.org> From: worik In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) On 30/01/22 10:48, H. Dieter Wilhelm wrote: > worik writes: > >> * Downloaded: git clone https://github.com/Stazed/rakarrack-plus.git > Please read INSTALL.REPO in the same directory, it says I can cope.  I did not need that file.   I was not asking for help.  I was reporting a bug. Having incorrect installation instructions in a file labeld INSTALL and repeating them in a file named README  is a bug. It is not much help to have the correct instructions in some other file. cheers Worik > > Building and Installing Emacs from the Repository > > ... > To use the autotools, run the following shell command to generate the > 'configure' script and some related files, and to set up your git > configuration: > > $ ./autogen.sh > > You can then configure your build as follows: > > $ ./configure > > >> * Read INSTALL >> >> * Tells me to run `./configure` >> >> * That does not exist. README references it too >> >> * Must run `./autogen.sh` first -- If not me then who? If not now then when? If not here then where? So, here I stand, I can do no other root@worik.org 021-1680650, (03) 4821804 Aotearoa (New Zealand) From unknown Mon Jun 23 23:52:26 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#53627: 29.0.50; Incorrect installation instructions Resent-From: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 22:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: worik Cc: 53627@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 53627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B53627.164349395123601 (code B ref 53627); Sat, 29 Jan 2022 22:06:02 +0000 Received: (at 53627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jan 2022 22:05:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35085 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nDvqv-00068Z-1h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 17:05:50 -0500 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.10]:55969) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nDvqr-00068G-TZ for 53627@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 17:05:48 -0500 Received: from VSL7V7PW ([92.116.183.199]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue106 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MoOpq-1mTXP12KlM-00olaJ; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 23:05:39 +0100 From: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" References: <3bcd862e-f6ba-92c5-899e-99ff93f5be9d@worik.org> <9dc96b58-e2e1-89c1-1b09-364b4ae2df66@worik.org> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 23:05:38 +0100 In-Reply-To: <9dc96b58-e2e1-89c1-1b09-364b4ae2df66@worik.org> (worik's message of "Sun, 30 Jan 2022 10:52:13 +1300") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:6Akf/E4Ty1iX7G26Ywcctr+PXeipcfxKVJrR/VNfE5RNPgqil4r EybWmqFYbXdgpOaHb2S8Q4AoPVBzfCOoLPra6m1PW8LJVTtdvRt2AagNZkI6JpRNvaLdOYQ BHf3g/yY59MOYQZCPqUOQKYcQizaKnais4t33caJRCLJgXsdtFf8sLKS6GRtHZUOErnZeHy EwYMNDfMGugF7s9WOBjzg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:daa4425QAyI=:BwK5oPVIW7jZ7UXyOpIxFo TSDzyEpKbQa2CG9jzyHQ1jpY17oP/rUH0WP/C031xxAfaUsN6TcqhDmObceL9JX7oNM5+bOaI k3lZ1eYQZ1Mem0GKcLN/YMpP74ZVQtrbmRTdU/Sg5N7KE17tc+3ZrjGxjWCYdQMEzC0OVBoRT PldbvHXABYBDc5WuvWg+44f+PDmV/IaXDkv/JO5Q5jAqohaVBDI0sh1M65B1UrBlN1Dxccq7C MlUTsWLw8UsHtufxeCRsvay6aV1B5n0H9HkzEI4VBaZVInOVsRroc417ZWZ1Brm8P8y1XS5kn j443vJEA/d1cK37NZh6gGnIZgvlX0tHyq2G5aMrn4aNpjn9m9rwgB1A82RqjyaSlB7lFwkNh1 dcGacsJwO7qp7rISNQERg1v2YZXFmn5vTB7sEufoBeU5I0cHyCtkr7Jtcnc4JKaCfZpOTXAub n8bFR/CyMmDCJYihyj2t5bYgoliVSqFDiJvVqdBF/tK0brPwpl0gK8/A6ETEMGqY9tCFVU4oZ nA9DN1I2ITXbfoHZuxVV3FycYc4BEg1HEZNTGROM/19tabPHuImqh+6IdwstEBDxgJQypPUr9 TaNc5QgkBYD5jwX5yHT3FBEe8nnolHM2S4DJdbbBTAe7hjRCoVhhpcAPxcu61cbxa/tD6VfGi 6OYADgIvNYkgHk6LVv648+XDmCjeGbqyQN4apta+EK39oguHEsi/sa65SgbC6H6ESY5L1NY4u bl9UriAkWU7SEq4E X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) worik writes: > On 30/01/22 10:48, H. Dieter Wilhelm wrote: >> worik writes: >> >>> * Downloaded: git clone https://github.com/Stazed/rakarrack-plus.git What is this, an Emacs repo? >> Please read INSTALL.REPO in the same directory, it says > > I can cope.=C2=A0 I did not need that file.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I was not asking = for help.=C2=A0 I > was reporting a bug. I'm not sure that this is a bug because in INSTALL it says: This file contains general information on building GNU Emacs. For more information specific to the MS-Windows, GNUstep/macOS, and MS-DOS ports, also read the files nt/INSTALL, nextstep/INSTALL, and msdos/INSTALL. For information about building from a repository checkout (rather than a release), also read the file INSTALL.REPO. Thus INSTALL is for installing from a release source archive and INSTALL.REPO is for installing Emacs from a source repository. > Having incorrect installation instructions in a file labeld INSTALL > and repeating them in a file named README=C2=A0 is a bug. > > It is not much help to have the correct instructions in some other file. > > cheers > > Worik > >> >> Building and Installing Emacs from the Repository >> >> ... >> To use the autotools, run the following shell command to generate the >> 'configure' script and some related files, and to set up your git >> configuration: >> >> $ ./autogen.sh >> >> You can then configure your build as follows: >> >> $ ./configure >> >> >>> * Read INSTALL >>> >>> * Tells me to run `./configure` >>> >>> * That does not exist. README references it too >>> >>> * Must run `./autogen.sh` first From unknown Mon Jun 23 23:52:26 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#53627: 29.0.50; Incorrect installation instructions Resent-From: Po Lu Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 01:51:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: worik Cc: "H. 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Sun, 30 Jan 2022 01:50:14 +0000 Received: by kubenode508.mail-prod1.omega.sg3.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 250e2c0ad517d8c284db6f85221b7085; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 01:50:10 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu References: <3bcd862e-f6ba-92c5-899e-99ff93f5be9d@worik.org> <9dc96b58-e2e1-89c1-1b09-364b4ae2df66@worik.org> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 09:50:05 +0800 In-Reply-To: <9dc96b58-e2e1-89c1-1b09-364b4ae2df66@worik.org> (worik's message of "Sun, 30 Jan 2022 10:52:13 +1300") Message-ID: <87v8y2f0vm.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.60 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19615 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 394 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) worik writes: > Having incorrect installation instructions in a file labeld INSTALL > and repeating them in a file named README=C2=A0 is a bug. INSTALL and README are intended for the vast majority of people who download the release off ftp.gnu.org (or alpha.gnu.org for pretests.) The instructions for installing from the repository are in INSTALL.REPO. This is not a bug. From unknown Mon Jun 23 23:52:26 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: worik Subject: bug#53627: closed (Re: bug#53627: 29.0.50; Incorrect installation instructions) Message-ID: References: <83czk9buwi.fsf@gnu.org> <3bcd862e-f6ba-92c5-899e-99ff93f5be9d@worik.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 53627 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 53627@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 06:29:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1643524142-26740-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1643524142-26740-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #53627: 29.0.50; Incorrect installation instructions which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 53627@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 53627: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D53627 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1643524142-26740-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 53627-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2022 06:28:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35431 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nE3gu-0006vK-Cv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 01:28:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55388) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nE3gp-0006uz-1F for 53627-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 01:27:59 -0500 Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=42444 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nE3gj-0007bS-8c; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 01:27:49 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=qLYVce9xuBXt/lsHDBXAOId3/CiHgWWWDXZpWWGEhIg=; b=mzfk075X56CKN5vyqOGi hzSg7KBIV0Ep9J9iXeh6VnNdkhGAT2+u6vcdJONihIuQX8WSUGCTaBW8Khab583jAzNH/o1Bkvo8r Vv0I6M2EYVzXOkqH2kpj+My+tMEEedjgPzmdo60nGet61cHotFRiuQnmBC4k5OuL/tiWZ0/3Fith4 Ryxus207wLlixBbaAFizreKV35SBu6QB3/xRxzYn8KkELBuF9ro40NrnWAZgFKTCav2+V/yEXSjLt rHDQiAYTf+z4mvSksq4pF7sUnWC7YN2GU2vkXx+Tg3wo7tz4o4CwbFVQD9KLK+9O+OdOLmbuv16zx IqoL2dFb83tkKA==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2690 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nE3gS-0003Cd-Pi; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 01:27:41 -0500 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 08:27:25 +0200 Message-Id: <83czk9buwi.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" In-Reply-To: (dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de) Subject: Re: bug#53627: 29.0.50; Incorrect installation instructions References: <3bcd862e-f6ba-92c5-899e-99ff93f5be9d@worik.org> <9dc96b58-e2e1-89c1-1b09-364b4ae2df66@worik.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53627-done Cc: root@worik.org, 53627-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" > Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 23:05:38 +0100 > Cc: 53627@debbugs.gnu.org > > >> Please read INSTALL.REPO in the same directory, it says > > > > I can cope.  I did not need that file.   I was not asking for help.  I > > was reporting a bug. > > I'm not sure that this is a bug because in INSTALL it says: > > This file contains general information on building GNU Emacs. > For more information specific to the MS-Windows, GNUstep/macOS, and > MS-DOS ports, also read the files nt/INSTALL, nextstep/INSTALL, and > msdos/INSTALL. For information about building from a repository checkout > (rather than a release), also read the file INSTALL.REPO. > > > Thus INSTALL is for installing from a release source archive and > INSTALL.REPO is for installing Emacs from a source repository. 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If not now then when? If not here then where? So, here I stand, I can do no other root@worik.org 021-1680650, (03) 4821804 Aotearoa (New Zealand) ------------=_1643524142-26740-1-- From unknown Mon Jun 23 23:52:26 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#53627: 29.0.50; Incorrect installation instructions Resent-From: Benjamin Riefenstahl Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 22:55:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Po Lu Cc: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" , worik , 53627@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 53627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B53627.164358327214431 (code B ref 53627); Sun, 30 Jan 2022 22:55:01 +0000 Received: (at 53627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2022 22:54:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37968 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nEJ5b-0003kh-TZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 17:54:32 -0500 Received: from odoacer.turtle-trading.net ([93.241.193.16]:37530) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nEJ5a-0003kS-Fb for 53627@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 17:54:31 -0500 Received: from zenobia.turtle-trading.net ([192.168.2.111]) by odoacer.turtle-trading.net with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1nEJ5O-00022f-0e; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 23:54:18 +0100 Received: from benny by zenobia.turtle-trading.net with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nEJ5N-000fkq-OJ; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 23:54:17 +0100 From: Benjamin Riefenstahl References: <3bcd862e-f6ba-92c5-899e-99ff93f5be9d@worik.org> <9dc96b58-e2e1-89c1-1b09-364b4ae2df66@worik.org> <87v8y2f0vm.fsf@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 23:54:17 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87v8y2f0vm.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Sun, 30 Jan 2022 09:50:05 +0800") Message-ID: <87ee4org12.fsf@turtle-trading.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Po Lu writes: > INSTALL and README are intended for the vast majority of people who > download the release off ftp.gnu.org (or alpha.gnu.org for pretests.) I'm not sure this is true anymore. I'm guessing these days most people use pre-built binaries, and those who do get the source get it straight from the Git instead of the tarballs. Maybe that note that if you clone the repo you should look at INSTALL.REPO could be more prominent in INSTALL? When Dieter quoted the paragraph from INSTALL above, I could not even find that note at first glance, even though I knew what must be in there. Just my 2 cents, benny From unknown Mon Jun 23 23:52:26 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#53627: 29.0.50; Incorrect installation instructions Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 15:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Benjamin Riefenstahl Cc: Po Lu , "H. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Benjamin Riefenstahl writes: >> INSTALL and README are intended for the vast majority of people who >> download the release off ftp.gnu.org (or alpha.gnu.org for pretests.) > > I'm not sure this is true anymore. I'm guessing thes [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Benjamin Riefenstahl writes: >> INSTALL and README are intended for the vast majority of people who >> download the release off ftp.gnu.org (or alpha.gnu.org for pretests.) > > I'm not sure this is true anymore. I'm guessing these days most people > use pre-built binaries, and those who do get the source get it straight > from the Git instead of the tarballs. Maybe that note that if you clone > the repo you should look at INSTALL.REPO could be more prominent in > INSTALL? When Dieter quoted the paragraph from INSTALL above, I could > not even find that note at first glance, even though I knew what must be > in there. I didn't see it either. I've now made it into a separate paragraph, and made it slightly less obscure. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no