From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:12 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#53352 <53352@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#53352 <53352@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' Reply-To: bug#53352 <53352@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 17:39:12 +0000 retitle 53352 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-= news' reassign 53352 emacs submitter 53352 Michael Welsh Duggan severity 53352 normal tag 53352 moreinfo thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 18 18:07:18 2022 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jan 2022 23:07:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51926 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n9xZO-0004ZM-B5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2022 18:07:18 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:42832) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n9xZM-0004ZE-A0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2022 18:07:17 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49124) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9xZM-0007ib-6G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2022 18:07:16 -0500 Received: from md5i.com ([75.151.244.229]:49478) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9xZI-00008U-He for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2022 18:07:15 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=md5i.com; s=dkim; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:To:From:Sender: Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=hnA4aQmiDRyFCHQAJ+ois0yOq6B6r/XCQAGbxYnuUwA=; b=Oe2k2l29tlP+3ZzjwP8XkT30py lUfB/MZqslFSuSIiI2EUjlHLxofLFpF0osOAonvPfd3qWzbsB0VFso2zmWEKn2F9E7TTZeAYsUfuq NYZTmdK/GQ04s2vSlXfsqZiuI; Received: from abode ([192.168.177.1] helo=miko) by md5i.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1n9xZG-004aa7-Vj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2022 18:07:10 -0500 From: Michael Welsh Duggan To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 18:07:10 -0500 Message-ID: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=75.151.244.229; envelope-from=mwd@md5i.com; helo=md5i.com X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URI_NOVOWEL=0.5 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) I have a gnus installation where the select method is as such: ;;; Select Method (setq gnus-select-method '(nnimap "localimap" (nnimap-inbox "INBOX") (nnimap-address "xxxxxxxx.xxx"))) The IMAP server is Dovecot 2.3.17.1. There's nothing special in the group parameters for the INBOX folder, currently this: ((modseq . "6496") (uidvalidity . "1374073954") (active 1 . 2140) (permanent-flags %Answered %Flagged %Deleted %Seen %Draft gnus-forward gnus-download %*)) The group activation level is 1. Mail splitting is currently being handled by sieve, not by Gnus. However, when sieve leaves a message in INBOX rather than sorting it to another folder, it does not appear in INBOX using `g' (gnus-group-get-new-news). Any mail that stays there does show up if I use `M-g' (gnus-topic-get-new-news-this-topic) on the group. This only happens for the INBOX folder. I don't believe INBOX should behave differently from other folders in this regard. 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Content preview: Michael Welsh Duggan writes: > I have a gnus installation where the select method is as such: > > ;;; Select Method > (setq gnus-select-method > '(nnimap "localimap" > (nnimap-inbox "INBOX") > (nnimap-address "xxxxxxxx.xxx"))) Content analysis details: (-2.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 0.5 URI_NOVOWEL URI: URI hostname has long non-vowel sequence -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352 Cc: 53352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) Michael Welsh Duggan writes: > I have a gnus installation where the select method is as such: > > ;;; Select Method > (setq gnus-select-method > '(nnimap "localimap" > (nnimap-inbox "INBOX") > (nnimap-address "xxxxxxxx.xxx"))) If you're not using Gnus to split the mail, wouldn't it make more sense to leave nnimap-inbox as nil? > Mail splitting is currently being handled by sieve, not by Gnus. > However, when sieve leaves a message in INBOX rather than sorting it to > another folder, it does not appear in INBOX using `g' > (gnus-group-get-new-news). Any mail that stays there does show up if I > use `M-g' (gnus-topic-get-new-news-this-topic) on the group. This only > happens for the INBOX folder. I don't believe INBOX should behave > differently from other folders in this regard. I don't see any special handling of the folder called INBOX in nnimap. Do you have the INBOX group on a too-high level? You said you're using a group activation level of 1, but not what the level of the INBOX group was. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 21 05:29:54 2022 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jan 2022 10:29:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60280 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nArB3-0005On-UI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 05:29:54 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:32858) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nArAz-0005OI-ED for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 05:29:50 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=2qhfzvTOGGJgHqc3I9QRApeWRmtAVfSLmZ9jc/t23j0=; b=pVwRTMjAKA6zT+yGPr6i57k0Kl nNJSjAIXFHdBqNwVNYWLyMp58pBZ9ub5ZHIhQonryBBuH337lxe5gV7JmeE/N+Hf7q7J4TYsjW4CH knjE3DlpTJIGpUs8g2EwtY6lOT1Qe37+ezO6p/vPiAOM+3VQjaB56FOO3vjEy0yeBF9c=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nArAr-0000Uo-Mw for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 11:29:43 +0100 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 11:29:41 +0100 Message-Id: <87mtjptm96.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #53352 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: tags 53352 + moreinfo quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 53352 + moreinfo quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 22 11:25:12 2022 Received: (at 53352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jan 2022 16:25:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37743 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBJCS-0007qn-47 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 11:25:12 -0500 Received: from md5i.com ([75.151.244.229]:36010) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBJCP-0007qW-LH for 53352@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 11:25:11 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=md5i.com; s=dkim; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:References: Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=XDkrDLaH8A6xoPmpZ0iwYxRqFOi3VvHMpeJdfs63TFQ=; b=ojPYsFPoxlpAW6rjL/RDcLGqEO 8t+qdTUfSWWFXkzc+TkHQAsM53IN4COIenzVU6/pUBHcSO6aChraKFsnE3zVw0Ug/OJiqAZjJJr3P vY6thaz7gMG9FqNdnXSr7o2U8; Received: from abode ([192.168.177.1] helo=miko) by md5i.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1nBJCJ-004pnm-4t; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 11:25:03 -0500 From: Michael Welsh Duggan To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 11:25:02 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Fri, 21 Jan 2022 11:29:36 +0100") Message-ID: <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352 Cc: Michael Welsh Duggan , 53352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Michael Welsh Duggan writes: > >> I have a gnus installation where the select method is as such: >> >> ;;; Select Method >> (setq gnus-select-method >> '(nnimap "localimap" >> (nnimap-inbox "INBOX") >> (nnimap-address "xxxxxxxx.xxx"))) > > If you're not using Gnus to split the mail, wouldn't it make more sense > to leave nnimap-inbox as nil? Likely. This is a leftover from when I was using Gnus to do splitting instead of sieve. However, removing the `nnimap-inbox' clause and restarting Gnus does not cause the unwanted behavior to change. >> Mail splitting is currently being handled by sieve, not by Gnus. >> However, when sieve leaves a message in INBOX rather than sorting it to >> another folder, it does not appear in INBOX using `g' >> (gnus-group-get-new-news). Any mail that stays there does show up if I >> use `M-g' (gnus-topic-get-new-news-this-topic) on the group. This only >> happens for the INBOX folder. I don't believe INBOX should behave >> differently from other folders in this regard. > > I don't see any special handling of the folder called INBOX in nnimap. > Do you have the INBOX group on a too-high level? You said you're using > a group activation level of 1, but not what the level of the INBOX group > was. INBOX is at level 1. -- Michael Welsh Duggan (md5i@md5i.com) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 23 07:58:48 2022 Received: (at 53352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2022 12:58:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38795 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBcSF-0004OP-NG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2022 07:58:47 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:37766) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBcSE-0004O8-Mt for 53352@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2022 07:58:47 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=t3AmDpSJjeJTgDxy7EnzbWI4rstlvMYMdWrMRXZKgOM=; b=XSUvNNGHBz2sJ6VJi8AntHfwfH qbPvKjFWz1nm0tBZSPGRA6rVsTN/p8VCU0WQDPZlrgyJMUSi5sTbnqo6+FS1mUFGd0z2RaC5EJ5fB eROVeTxuu01wgxuuJus86ZAmGAK5yPudKELdzgHhn3zQjlUxHzF0qaIgq4Iz0eu5azY4=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nBcS5-00055r-O3; Sun, 23 Jan 2022 13:58:40 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Michael Welsh Duggan Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAElBMVEWdkXFgYltBNSxv gX6urpL////1g5C3AAAAAWJLR0QF+G/pxwAAAAd0SU1FB+YBFww5N0NExXgAAAGISURBVDjLdZPh kYQgDIXhoAACV4BQAcgWwI70X9O9BHTVc/PDGfKRl5BEpa5GbAn2zT+B/sEZXv8AioB4A1eprzn8 HdBufgJTqLIRhVpD7/09gaYTeF1AGCCAnYEJNbzs9h9o3M6qllCRrB/AKgOgACBW6QDNtgFMgFLN B+i9aZIIgCJFTdAkh6r8naBMYPrGUgBBlDYBrXcGmkYm+BE4cwCQDiajQlwrs1eWQXf8nmb10nUa fUcwcvRsM3RKWt4+0ZAaYHPZKEgsKUUKEmG5qt7IKi8DinGXQqEvPNLhxI7Ic/8AYxw2QULSBSDx mhh4BuUETGBpdt9BphX3JcsH1K6ckWP6Byx6PHLz/sR9tI03hR3k0Ftp1ogA4KctRL8dW/aRyuot b9ZRnkGobYKApoY17T1B3SNHFv4BR47sXMh63TuyV6UwCl6vZ6BOYP8NMDxXz0C6i2kTRyD/FcBB bvxRZW+JSHEnNJ1stlIRPXjvwMdH4GnsyQRjAHL5JCQgzZFeTaUv9gchl3huqTRFngAAACV0RVh0 ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMi0wMS0yM1QxMjo1Nzo1NSswMDowMHzaydoAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9k aWZ5ADIwMjItMDEtMjNUMTI6NTc6NTUrMDA6MDANh3FmAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Latin Quarter's _Modern Times_: "Modern Times" Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 13:58:37 +0100 In-Reply-To: <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> (Michael Welsh Duggan's message of "Sat, 22 Jan 2022 11:25:02 -0500") Message-ID: <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Michael Welsh Duggan writes: >> I don't see any special handling of the folder called INBOX in nnimap. >> Do you have the INBOX group on a too-high level? You said you're using >> a group activation level of 1, but not what the l [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352 Cc: 53352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Michael Welsh Duggan writes: >> I don't see any special handling of the folder called INBOX in nnimap. >> Do you have the INBOX group on a too-high level? You said you're using >> a group activation level of 1, but not what the level of the INBOX group >> was. > > INBOX is at level 1. Could you try to (setq nnimap-record-commands t) and then `g' in Gnus and then post the contents of the *imap log* buffer? That'll tell us which commands we're sending to the IMAP server. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 23 11:55:42 2022 Received: (at 53352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2022 16:55:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41097 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBg9V-0005aJ-W2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2022 11:55:42 -0500 Received: from md5i.com ([75.151.244.229]:36012) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBg9U-0005a6-6m for 53352@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2022 11:55:40 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=md5i.com; s=dkim; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:References: Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=g2gD3AnSWA8mEBD2weYpkRFvXGCoJBfCLwihD+JXig4=; b=O9V8QxqmrnHYyB/H+WgeZoUHtq GQ+4wNc0ndJt33uTzXqSkkbUqCqMVW97Jezp4oX2j1jyujfBNpiV8mnPqvFd2GfqLkuRUqgwKmyQ7 ETSDTT592MXDXijnAJUKxnzsU; Received: from abode ([192.168.177.1] helo=miko) by md5i.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1nBg9N-004u5d-9H; Sun, 23 Jan 2022 11:55:33 -0500 From: Michael Welsh Duggan To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 11:55:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 23 Jan 2022 13:58:37 +0100") Message-ID: <87iluae6ij.fsf@md5i.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352 Cc: Michael Welsh Duggan , 53352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Michael Welsh Duggan writes: > >>> I don't see any special handling of the folder called INBOX in nnimap. >>> Do you have the INBOX group on a too-high level? You said you're using >>> a group activation level of 1, but not what the level of the INBOX group >>> was. >> >> INBOX is at level 1. > > Could you try to (setq nnimap-record-commands t) and then `g' in Gnus > and then post the contents of the *imap log* buffer? That'll tell us > which commands we're sending to the IMAP server. I'm not going to send the whole list unless you believe it's necessary. The log (after `g') consists of 122 lines as follows: 11:42:43 [md5i.com] 91340 EXAMINE "mail.misc" (QRESYNC (1044651295 71865)) 11:42:43 [md5i.com] 91341 EXAMINE "mail.junk" (QRESYNC (1162282036 126251)) (I removed the ^M at the end of log lines for this email.) This list does not contain "INBOX". If you actually need the full list, I can send it, but the line above is representative of them all. `M-g' on the INBOX group elicits the following: 11:50:58 [md5i.com] 91840 EXAMINE "INBOX" (QRESYNC (1374073954 6508)) 11:50:58 [md5i.com] 91841 SELECT "INBOX" 11:50:58 [md5i.com] 91842 UID FETCH 1:* FLAGS 11:50:58 [md5i.com] 91843 EXPUNGE Entering the server buffer and typing `RET' on the IMAP server yields: 11:51:44 [md5i.com] 91844 LIST "" "*" 11:51:44 [md5i.com] 91845 EXAMINE "Archive" ... [122 elided lines] 11:51:44 [md5i.com] 91968 EXAMINE "INBOX" And, in case it's important, yes, the last entry is "INBOX" in that last log snippet. -- Michael Welsh Duggan (md5i@md5i.com) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 24 04:19:03 2022 Received: (at 53352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2022 09:19:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42061 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBvV9-0005Rs-Jz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 04:19:03 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:47968) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBvV7-0005RK-L0 for 53352@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 04:19:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=/X7J05S2KwLbE2xQutZLUkvAn9os8+HZPO8xIpI640g=; b=X6u/zTdVw8NbNaByEu71ktcBAV mOLCprjFnuQMOmEKbhHqhBwSXbvtBNift6eUvTalyx0ohGChDggVz6/kUs16fm6/Wtfyg80oihNXo r4OyZM/HlPIYKEJsJW5Tf8oJgaEIh2LKDbORegTxj2y7Pp/aT4BziG2ghwi5WQHBnSIY=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nBvUy-0006Dk-BV; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 10:18:54 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Michael Welsh Duggan Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> <87iluae6ij.fsf@md5i.com> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAALVBMVEUDBQwfGCEtLTFs bHCrrLDR0dXw8PJ9fYFgWmGPkJS9vcFFOEN+f4NNTVH///8PU95gAAAAAWJLR0QOb70wTwAAAAd0 SU1FB+YBGAkIHpkDiBsAAAGcSURBVDjLrZJNS8NAEIZn41GEJD1JKdR4qUgOtRWtKFj6oRFvNZV6 bgb0rHfRXEQEKanQYg8iLejR/gm9qfUQkf4Xt5umH7vrzXchsPtk5t2dGYCRNNDTZRzosIgIk1Lc AFSKjj0FIOExUlq1n6cB6N06BY/uQR54kTvEnUtrUwAwX8ZcKtUXgVLE3P2LKgL9DHOND96A/hjd wFL+nQd0RV08zp9zYE4FNZbGqscD0EyIFPAkLQBwkzP0hRneA0ii5UqBppv05ZgSUhGtW6DgVfRQ WEtqosfiIACzfEV0I+hhlj83/TpKADH8NZYJH7i7Gv5bh4Ft3qF3GkzDrQA8lAHN6DWlAHT/D0BM NnFOmTOnId9tu4xHQgNpRfbatm21wr15HU5FzCtgpXExuo42KJrGQAedfGs6zbjq1fgwgBWZfZRB Y9FphZnooJEgjAHcV4cgDADyxcAu25GJdgXAqY1dQy1Rc9tKjvZqGBcp2E83C+oEGCqaaayAVHrf iMtJLLP+KTtXek1ry5CAWf/K+tElgCwbfbkJgf/WL9tlhd4YWsDQAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0 ZQAyMDIyLTAxLTI0VDA5OjA4OjMwKzAwOjAw7+6+lQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMi0w MS0yNFQwOTowODozMCswMDowMJ6zBikAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: This Mortal Coil's _Filigree & Shadow_: "I Want to Live" Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 10:18:51 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87iluae6ij.fsf@md5i.com> (Michael Welsh Duggan's message of "Sun, 23 Jan 2022 11:55:32 -0500") Message-ID: <87ee4x5w5g.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Michael Welsh Duggan writes: > I'm not going to send the whole list unless you believe it's necessary. > The log (after `g') consists of 122 lines as follows: > > 11:42:43 [md5i.com] 91340 EXAMINE "mail.misc" (QRESYNC (1044651295 [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352 Cc: 53352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Michael Welsh Duggan writes: > I'm not going to send the whole list unless you believe it's necessary. > The log (after `g') consists of 122 lines as follows: > > 11:42:43 [md5i.com] 91340 EXAMINE "mail.misc" (QRESYNC (1044651295 71865)) > 11:42:43 [md5i.com] 91341 EXAMINE "mail.junk" (QRESYNC (1162282036 126251)) > > (I removed the ^M at the end of log lines for this email.) This list > does not contain "INBOX". If you actually need the full list, I can > send it, but the line above is representative of them all. When I try the same, I do get INBOX in the list of EXAMINES: 10:14:57 [quimby.gnus.org] 12526 EXAMINE "Sent" (QRESYNC (1457952636 8)) 10:14:57 [quimby.gnus.org] 12527 EXAMINE "INBOX" (QRESYNC (1164213559 1225378)) So it sounds like somehow your Gnus is deciding not to activate the INBOX group (because of some setting or other, I'd guess). I'm not sure how you could debug that -- perhaps debug-on-entry on nnimap-retrieve-group-data-early and see where the list of `infos' is coming from, and see whether it includes INBOX and whether it's being filtered out? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 24 11:15:14 2022 Received: (at 53352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2022 16:15:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45461 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC1zu-00065q-Bl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 11:15:14 -0500 Received: from taper.sei.cmu.edu ([147.72.252.16]:37892) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC1zq-0005uU-Oa for 53352@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 11:15:12 -0500 Received: from korb.sei.cmu.edu (korb.sei.cmu.edu [10.64.21.30]) by taper.sei.cmu.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 20OGF3xJ013739; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 11:15:03 -0500 Received: from miko (neva-vpn-10-64-202-190.sei.cmu.edu [10.64.202.190]) by korb.sei.cmu.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 20OGF2Ro020618; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 11:15:02 -0500 From: Michael Welsh Duggan To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> <87iluae6ij.fsf@md5i.com> <87ee4x5w5g.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 11:15:02 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87ee4x5w5g.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 24 Jan 2022 10:18:51 +0100") Message-ID: <87o841cdq1.fsf@md5i.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352 Cc: Michael Welsh Duggan , 53352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Michael Welsh Duggan writes: > >> I'm not going to send the whole list unless you believe it's necessary. >> The log (after `g') consists of 122 lines as follows: >> >> 11:42:43 [md5i.com] 91340 EXAMINE "mail.misc" (QRESYNC (1044651295 71865)) >> 11:42:43 [md5i.com] 91341 EXAMINE "mail.junk" (QRESYNC (1162282036 126251)) >> >> (I removed the ^M at the end of log lines for this email.) This list >> does not contain "INBOX". If you actually need the full list, I can >> send it, but the line above is representative of them all. > > When I try the same, I do get INBOX in the list of EXAMINES: > > 10:14:57 [quimby.gnus.org] 12526 EXAMINE "Sent" (QRESYNC (1457952636 8)) > 10:14:57 [quimby.gnus.org] 12527 EXAMINE "INBOX" (QRESYNC (1164213559 1225378)) > > So it sounds like somehow your Gnus is deciding not to activate the > INBOX group (because of some setting or other, I'd guess). I'm not sure > how you could debug that -- perhaps debug-on-entry on > nnimap-retrieve-group-data-early and see where the list of `infos' is > coming from, and see whether it includes INBOX and whether it's being > filtered out? This appears to be happening in `gnus-get-unread-articles' in the initial `let*'. "INBOX" is the car of `gnus-newsrc-alist', and `newsrc' is explicitly set to the cdr of that list. -- Michael Welsh Duggan (md5i@md5i.com) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 24 11:34:01 2022 Received: (at 53352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2022 16:34:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45494 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC2Hx-0002T4-R4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 11:34:01 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:52888) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC2Hw-0002Sl-3s for 53352@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 11:33:52 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=gT/sxV2dQhROy7tSL1NEmUbOrF4wMB0ZqF9F1lMpGbg=; b=RfKBSTvmy3dzH4KjQbXmczgS4Y Hx1hhPYLKyECkTRiEyYH+VYOJm19XGR/z81spB6smeIFvPiLY/5QXVCG7hgah9Qd6c5VFFTlLr4A/ jriiVPZ8UkcN/tvxVJdBq+a6rL2KsLuZuC1xFelnMwXcXMsvU0plOdH4/OLUAjTOnJKk=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nC2Hm-00015J-0w; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 17:33:44 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Michael Welsh Duggan Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> <87iluae6ij.fsf@md5i.com> <87ee4x5w5g.fsf@gnus.org> <87o841cdq1.fsf@md5i.com> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAD1BMVEXt9Ni5w6KIknZR Tkn///+5aDmTAAAAAWJLR0QEj2jZUQAAAAd0SU1FB+YBGBAbC4bGtZ0AAAGjSURBVDjLbZOBkcQg CEUl24CwDQRs4CL993YfMW7cOzKTmfAE5ENKCeOwWv4YMZsOBGiPA8xiwky1aKFaC8H1AQZA+Nbx plUCgFVZ+cAZIv4APGqiVcSM9bqLR+lKqFIUVUTPda2ve95XG03k17jzfqpdeZh2P0vrmXVFRH5R 0Qnw3JXh7x0g1KClGuGSSG8mLjWbqutm0lTM+4z4SEsCcd29j7ZoAeHm9ga46t3SAJiEwZr7SCXn Aia9eWc306c8ZAO4uWsfmW2G9A6fO4KKR4Kllcf5KF0Oz3HOXGY+Qs7yDoApawKxzFVLcygbmiR4 e6ZSa1rDd8wiBwr38Md3JcxchmiFoEWDumhMThYRpZzlESqNVNZ+cjz1TjWsQ5Wr3EuYqYZBsQHO J7hktN40tZtB0RzllWPqbLxAh7AD2HNS0ATjS+D1CbDFPrv3bQulYRHcppIPOwJwgp8NeNM5kx28 vNXZ5J8IRkQ8fu3AYm9fOd/nj+F2No5F6a7br+HWrthEl2470FbRpeFX2Bos7RpL+uWNdejFvv/b BFr+N/rH9ws+hkt2nuNQ0QAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMi0wMS0yNFQxNjoyNzoxMSsw MDowMBikZFMAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjItMDEtMjRUMTY6Mjc6MTErMDA6MDBp+dzv AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Michelle Shocked's _The Texas Campfire Tapes_: "Fogtown" Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 17:33:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87o841cdq1.fsf@md5i.com> (Michael Welsh Duggan's message of "Mon, 24 Jan 2022 11:15:02 -0500") Message-ID: <87tudt3xga.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Michael Welsh Duggan writes: > This appears to be happening in `gnus-get-unread-articles' in the > initial `let*'. "INBOX" is the car of `gnus-newsrc-alist', and `newsrc' > is explicitly set to the cdr of that list. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352 Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , 53352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Michael Welsh Duggan writes: > This appears to be happening in `gnus-get-unread-articles' in the > initial `let*'. "INBOX" is the car of `gnus-newsrc-alist', and `newsrc' > is explicitly set to the cdr of that list. Oh! This must be a leftover from when `gnus-newsrc-alist' always had a dummy first entry, but that was changed a while back. I think? Eric, what's the status of the dummy.group that that used to be the first element of gnus-newsrc-alist, but doesn't seem to be any more? There's still a whole bunch of stuff in Gnus that skips the first element because of that: ./lisp/gnus/gnus-sieve.el211: (let* ((newsrc (cdr gnus-newsrc-alist)) ./lisp/gnus/gnus-kill.el653: (setq newsrc (cdr gnus-newsrc-alist)) ./lisp/gnus/gnus-topic.el896: (cdr gnus-newsrc-alist))) ./lisp/gnus/gnus-cus.el1083: (cdr gnus-newsrc-alist))) ./lisp/gnus/gnus-cus.el1086: (cdr gnus-newsrc-alist)))))))) ./lisp/gnus/gnus-group.el1942: (let ((alist (cdr gnus-newsrc-alist)) Do I misremember, or did you change this? At least there's no dummy.group as the car of my (and Michaels) gnus-newsrc-alist-s -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 24 11:34:17 2022 Received: (at 53352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2022 16:34:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45499 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC2IL-0002U9-H1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 11:34:17 -0500 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:33984) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC2IJ-0002Tu-NE for 53352@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 11:34:16 -0500 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4JjFtZ1jWSz1r3wh; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 17:34:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4JjFtY72hGz1qqkB; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 17:34:13 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ETeoR8gxnkq1; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 17:34:13 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: ONoVRNtmnS5h7YYkkkAEY3XD7fqnJhiDZ6te+y8qVPP8kGyzg+qnZSsPaUdgixSw Received: from igel.home (ppp-46-244-179-110.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.179.110]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 17:34:13 +0100 (CET) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8A0482C37BD; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 17:34:12 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab To: Michael Welsh Duggan Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> <87iluae6ij.fsf@md5i.com> <87ee4x5w5g.fsf@gnus.org> <87o841cdq1.fsf@md5i.com> X-Yow: What PROGRAM are they watching? Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 17:34:12 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87o841cdq1.fsf@md5i.com> (Michael Welsh Duggan's message of "Mon, 24 Jan 2022 11:15:02 -0500") Message-ID: <8735ld854r.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352 Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , Lars Ingebrigtsen , 53352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) On Jan 24 2022, Michael Welsh Duggan wrote: > This appears to be happening in `gnus-get-unread-articles' in the > initial `let*'. "INBOX" is the car of `gnus-newsrc-alist', and `newsrc' > is explicitly set to the cdr of that list. The first element of gnus-newsrc-alist is supposed to be the dummy.group, but that doesn't appear to be the case any more. Can this be related to commit a09306d53b? -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 24 12:59:38 2022 Received: (at 53352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2022 17:59:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45708 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC3cw-0000wn-FI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 12:59:38 -0500 Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:39330) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC3cu-0000wY-Kd for 53352@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 12:59:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-71-197-232-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.232.41]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B99D2FA01F; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 17:59:30 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1643047171; bh=aL8ZQOiDTRKYAZyth3fQ4LBG677shVFfy5PQSo5T6TQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=mdALN4L0TkBEFISu5/E6sgmzYnnMALeEZWY4rSGP46x9rhW9CfetNNy+HvMyNXnwX 6YDY3KyLNesj7+TjmK+hPXIUt0KlRExpP16B5a0rh0vi3SNvpbDxaov7ESO+uylIVi WjT69RLCPzlhKUCkXzhiuLHcUgRb9CuWMsVvGFu0= From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Andreas Schwab Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> <87iluae6ij.fsf@md5i.com> <87ee4x5w5g.fsf@gnus.org> <87o841cdq1.fsf@md5i.com> <8735ld854r.fsf@igel.home> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 09:59:29 -0800 In-Reply-To: <8735ld854r.fsf@igel.home> (Andreas Schwab's message of "Mon, 24 Jan 2022 17:34:12 +0100") Message-ID: <878rv56mm6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352 Cc: Michael Welsh Duggan , Lars Ingebrigtsen , 53352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 01/24/22 17:34 PM, Andreas Schwab wrote: > On Jan 24 2022, Michael Welsh Duggan wrote: > >> This appears to be happening in `gnus-get-unread-articles' in the >> initial `let*'. "INBOX" is the car of `gnus-newsrc-alist', and `newsrc' >> is explicitly set to the cdr of that list. > > The first element of gnus-newsrc-alist is supposed to be the > dummy.group, but that doesn't appear to be the case any more. Can this > be related to commit a09306d53b? Yup, looks like that's the problem. After the first time you save Gnus, `gnus-newsrc-alist' has been redefined to exclude "dummy.group". It should be easy to fix -- I'll move the sorting and exclusion into the `let', which will preserve the variable's original value. I suppose the Emacs 28 ship has sailed? It would be nice to include this fix in the release. Eric From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 24 13:06:56 2022 Received: (at 53352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2022 18:06:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45736 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC3k0-0001Bn-49 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 13:06:56 -0500 Received: from veto.sei.cmu.edu ([147.72.252.17]:34952) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC3jw-0001BT-MG for 53352@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 13:06:54 -0500 Received: from korb.sei.cmu.edu (korb.sei.cmu.edu [10.64.21.30]) by veto.sei.cmu.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 20OI6kg0037076; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 13:06:46 -0500 Received: from miko (neva-vpn-10-64-202-190.sei.cmu.edu [10.64.202.190]) by korb.sei.cmu.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 20OI6ioC014388; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 13:06:44 -0500 From: Michael Welsh Duggan To: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> <87iluae6ij.fsf@md5i.com> <87ee4x5w5g.fsf@gnus.org> <87o841cdq1.fsf@md5i.com> <8735ld854r.fsf@igel.home> <878rv56mm6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 13:06:44 -0500 In-Reply-To: <878rv56mm6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 24 Jan 2022 09:59:29 -0800") Message-ID: <8735ldc8jv.fsf@md5i.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352 Cc: Michael Welsh Duggan , Lars Ingebrigtsen , Andreas Schwab , 53352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Eric Abrahamsen writes: > On 01/24/22 17:34 PM, Andreas Schwab wrote: >> On Jan 24 2022, Michael Welsh Duggan wrote: >> >>> This appears to be happening in `gnus-get-unread-articles' in the >>> initial `let*'. "INBOX" is the car of `gnus-newsrc-alist', and `newsrc' >>> is explicitly set to the cdr of that list. >> >> The first element of gnus-newsrc-alist is supposed to be the >> dummy.group, but that doesn't appear to be the case any more. Can this >> be related to commit a09306d53b? > > Yup, looks like that's the problem. After the first time you save Gnus, > `gnus-newsrc-alist' has been redefined to exclude "dummy.group". It > should be easy to fix -- I'll move the sorting and exclusion into the > `let', which will preserve the variable's original value. To be clear, would this mean I need to add "dummy.group" to my `gnus-newsrc-alist' after you make this change, or will the change obviate the need for the dummy entry? If the former, would you please verify the form I need to prepend to the alist? Is it just the "dummy.group" string? -- Michael Welsh Duggan (md5i@md5i.com) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 24 13:32:12 2022 Received: (at 53352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2022 18:32:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45804 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC48R-0004AH-Qe for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 13:32:11 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:54154) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC48Q-0004A5-IK for 53352@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 13:32:11 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=PBKTlVNkDJX3akOa4a7eprnoBC34iiqoOt0SQ/ngG2E=; b=pxawT/hHmtBUrTJKnE5/LdIyKN OzrZ+2bPmdrdXjsIfE90Lk3yWoIRwL5HW8BKpJOuWznZvEIFTmaUrULASykXRYa6mIGBdsyuyaE+j cOosg4BHDpbu4yRqAa87eZsdVZtKgvv8Ysjdg/TGyIDGF0UF5VUxLlEmA5ZGIxFsnX4c=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nC48H-0002IW-0f; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 19:32:03 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> <87iluae6ij.fsf@md5i.com> <87ee4x5w5g.fsf@gnus.org> <87o841cdq1.fsf@md5i.com> <8735ld854r.fsf@igel.home> <878rv56mm6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAGFBMVEXYy7fk2svl28zu 59fKr560hnHlyLr///92x2XWAAAAAWJLR0QHFmGI6wAAAAd0SU1FB+YBGBIeIrqHDdoAAAGySURB VDjLdZRNb+QgDIYJQXsegzTn2Eg9Bzx7j1RyX6mT+1aV8v9/whoIbZLJ+gLJ45cP68VK1ejUOToA S4TMEZjRMpP8QLgpIEtM8WGcNyk6M0XKAQKI2cfff9iPH+znFD2LHJWlMnkszONH9DPXEODL5GH6 AswGgtKeryIq3abvkiZJD78Be07l/wA+gfu6rnZdZWjAfYO7+1zhBZTYHTCovibIQCxJjt0BhJ6l kI6jG/UGtgSS8pTk0R5AriTXVWqNfgCapH6Z6Ytpr4hIQ1qeaZn6oOMOUCCcF9XNzx5pD3ywQ5pU Z9L791LbIbqhWkAf9+BIWP7/1Z5O98BqGUsnBQpISZY6gbKHmV7BaPPmFRxuHsVIal4mAfZw3EiD MsvyVBprdccGZKbmpyjAnkC4KVNO5Q6gVpgsbntn4Dc3UbY56g0Moi0JX/yWJaTH/gDE+5GzxIWm sHTpxKZ4cWgG/grcVHcJ5FbaXhEUgITrKnb+vAMGsG8AYkgB8s7zE8g+z68gz8VbcKsN4LBYLgCU zlB6Q4X19RNWRUMtAOEHCJIOAtS+dqAFgi3gIkqL+gds9LOtuvAiyAAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVh dGUAMjAyMi0wMS0yNFQxODozMDozNCswMDowMNENhIAAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjIt MDEtMjRUMTg6MzA6MzQrMDA6MDCgUDw8AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Kissing the Pink's _Certain Things Are Likely_: "I Won't Wait" Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 19:31:58 +0100 In-Reply-To: <878rv56mm6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 24 Jan 2022 09:59:29 -0800") Message-ID: <87wnip2dep.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eric Abrahamsen writes: > I suppose the Emacs 28 ship has sailed? It would be nice to include this > fix in the release. It's a regression from 27.2, so including a fix in Emacs 28 would be appropriate (if it's simple enough). But we can run it on master for a while before backporting. 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But we can run it on master for a while before backporting. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 24 13:48:38 2022 Received: (at 53352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2022 18:48:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45840 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC4OM-0006sH-Dr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 13:48:38 -0500 Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:41300) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC4OJ-0006s2-4S for 53352@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 13:48:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-71-197-232-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.232.41]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ED1C3FA01F; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 18:48:28 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1643050109; bh=FOZOzO4Z+WSwEd+OJwla7ii2Pf/OfIs7sOZRzT5s3nc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=J88pnCXOedSa3QEpIUkjZIsLbA2ncT9I8m6XJIo0XYG/LPLB0gSFlHTbI7VJzlOi+ 8fWyWuQXha18EqQ2yriDp6BT/YmPZJFfz0xRjQla6WKa1g0pYcBs6zvhRY9VYDtfuE F/ckz6F4H/8/sVeo0oc8AMmoX/P5TDlbuyGXOkkk= From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Michael Welsh Duggan Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> <87iluae6ij.fsf@md5i.com> <87ee4x5w5g.fsf@gnus.org> <87o841cdq1.fsf@md5i.com> <8735ld854r.fsf@igel.home> <878rv56mm6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <8735ldc8jv.fsf@md5i.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 10:48:27 -0800 In-Reply-To: <8735ldc8jv.fsf@md5i.com> (Michael Welsh Duggan's message of "Mon, 24 Jan 2022 13:06:44 -0500") Message-ID: <87zgnl55s4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Andreas Schwab , 53352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 01/24/22 13:06 PM, Michael Welsh Duggan wrote: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> On 01/24/22 17:34 PM, Andreas Schwab wrote: >>> On Jan 24 2022, Michael Welsh Duggan wrote: >>> >>>> This appears to be happening in `gnus-get-unread-articles' in the >>>> initial `let*'. "INBOX" is the car of `gnus-newsrc-alist', and `newsrc' >>>> is explicitly set to the cdr of that list. >>> >>> The first element of gnus-newsrc-alist is supposed to be the >>> dummy.group, but that doesn't appear to be the case any more. Can this >>> be related to commit a09306d53b? >> >> Yup, looks like that's the problem. After the first time you save Gnus, >> `gnus-newsrc-alist' has been redefined to exclude "dummy.group". It >> should be easy to fix -- I'll move the sorting and exclusion into the >> `let', which will preserve the variable's original value. > > To be clear, would this mean I need to add "dummy.group" to my > `gnus-newsrc-alist' after you make this change, or will the change > obviate the need for the dummy entry? If the former, would you please > verify the form I need to prepend to the alist? Is it just the > "dummy.group" string? You won't have to do anything. With the code as it is, the dummy group is present at Gnus startup, but gets deleted on first save. I'll put in a fix that makes sure it doesn't get deleted. That should take care of things. There's no longer any need for a dummy group, and in the long run it would be good to get rid of it. But I think in short term we still think there's a significant amount of out-of-tree code that might be expecting a dummy group. Eric From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 24 14:21:11 2022 Received: (at 53352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2022 19:21:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45946 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC4tq-0003qq-V8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 14:21:11 -0500 Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:42642) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC4tk-0003pn-JM for 53352@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 14:21:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-71-197-232-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.232.41]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 88E37FA01F; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 19:20:58 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1643052058; bh=H/5lpKQBv261Hh66Ou57LXM0HiZ15ReJvAPwnuYm2Rw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=QCPzvzGjBCXsUxEQ8P+AZw6wShPxg5yn9x5986doD1mJlh8w2cI7RYNCDTZpRtf1U nETp0ZCJAiwcCUohQOSZNvkLjTj1v/UtuuTsYkjHSgnw4/GaCAfBunSZWHzGUZJuHY mOmtK1KKVlRG2iFYMaQpgcWhLoVzbLSxqhkSY6zU= From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> <87iluae6ij.fsf@md5i.com> <87ee4x5w5g.fsf@gnus.org> <87o841cdq1.fsf@md5i.com> <8735ld854r.fsf@igel.home> <878rv56mm6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wnip2dep.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 11:20:57 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87wnip2dep.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 24 Jan 2022 19:31:58 +0100") Message-ID: <87y235ym7a.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352 Cc: Michael Welsh Duggan , Andreas Schwab , 53352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain On 01/24/22 19:31 PM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> I suppose the Emacs 28 ship has sailed? It would be nice to include this >> fix in the release. > > It's a regression from 27.2, so including a fix in Emacs 28 would be > appropriate (if it's simple enough). But we can run it on master for a > while before backporting. Okay, good. I'm attaching the patch I'm using right now -- this appears to fix it. I'll give it another day or two. Eric --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=preserve-gnus-newsrc-alist.diff diff --git a/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el b/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el index 2cf11fb12f..dd9c277805 100644 --- a/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el +++ b/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el @@ -2867,12 +2867,6 @@ gnus-gnus-to-quick-newsrc-format (princ "(setq gnus-newsrc-file-version ") (princ (gnus-prin1-to-string gnus-version)) (princ ")\n")) - ;; Sort `gnus-newsrc-alist' according to order in - ;; `gnus-group-list'. - (setq gnus-newsrc-alist - (mapcar (lambda (g) - (nth 1 (gethash g gnus-newsrc-hashtb))) - (delete "dummy.group" gnus-group-list))) (let* ((print-quoted t) (print-escape-multibyte nil) (print-escape-nonascii t) @@ -2891,17 +2885,20 @@ gnus-gnus-to-quick-newsrc-format ;; Remove the `gnus-killed-list' from the list of variables ;; to be saved, if required. (delq 'gnus-killed-list (copy-sequence gnus-variable-list))))) - ;; Encode group names in `gnus-newsrc-alist' and - ;; `gnus-topic-alist' in order to keep newsrc.eld files - ;; compatible with older versions of Gnus. At some point, - ;; if/when a new version of Gnus is released, stop doing - ;; this and move the corresponding decode in - ;; `gnus-read-newsrc-el-file' into a conversion routine. + ;; Sort `gnus-newsrc-alist' according to order in + ;; `gnus-group-list'. Encode group names in + ;; `gnus-newsrc-alist' and `gnus-topic-alist' in order to + ;; keep newsrc.eld files compatible with older versions of + ;; Gnus. At some point, if/when a new version of Gnus is + ;; released, stop doing this and move the corresponding + ;; decode in `gnus-read-newsrc-el-file' into a conversion + ;; routine. (gnus-newsrc-alist - (mapcar (lambda (info) - (cons (encode-coding-string (car info) 'utf-8-emacs) - (cdr info))) - gnus-newsrc-alist)) + (mapcar (lambda (group) + (cons (encode-coding-string group 'utf-8-emacs) + (cdadr (gethash group + gnus-newsrc-hashtb)))) + (remove "dummy.group" gnus-group-list))) (gnus-topic-alist (when (memq 'gnus-topic-alist variables) (mapcar (lambda (elt) --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 24 16:16:07 2022 Received: (at 53352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2022 21:16:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46064 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC6h5-0007HR-Da for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 16:16:07 -0500 Received: from md5i.com ([75.151.244.229]:36014) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC6h0-0007GZ-KI for 53352@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 16:16:06 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=md5i.com; s=dkim; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To: Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Mj1xeG9kNPKfhik1Lr9RQsFO7RxWhFgkz7gsUjB1eDY=; b=XtHfI7yILtI4qR/+0LL9KiHoYy NUTE17b3n7CSMWqai2YOH7YuFU+MKcPDo2ioI4YWFkL4CS073WNnx79RE2QbjQyuYHg6CETjIEECO VwjjH+dR4D/ZQuZcAEQdOVNi/; Received: from abode ([192.168.177.1] helo=miko) by md5i.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1nC6gt-004zBa-E6; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 16:15:55 -0500 From: Michael Welsh Duggan To: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' In-Reply-To: <87y235ym7a.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 24 Jan 2022 11:20:57 -0800") References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> <87iluae6ij.fsf@md5i.com> <87ee4x5w5g.fsf@gnus.org> <87o841cdq1.fsf@md5i.com> <8735ld854r.fsf@igel.home> <878rv56mm6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wnip2dep.fsf@gnus.org> <87y235ym7a.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 16:15:55 -0500 Message-ID: <87wnion8c4.fsf@md5i.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352 Cc: Michael Welsh Duggan , Lars Ingebrigtsen , Andreas Schwab , 53352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eric Abrahamsen writes: > On 01/24/22 19:31 PM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: >> Eric Abrahamsen writes: >> >>> I suppose the Emacs 28 ship has sailed? It would be nice to include this >>> fix in the release. >> >> It's a regression from 27.2, so including a fix in Emacs 28 would be >> appropriate (if it's simple enough). But we can run it on master for a >> while before backporting. > > Okay, good. I'm attaching the patch I'm using right now -- this appears > to fix it. I'll give it another day or two. I can confirm that this solves the problem for me, at least for some simple local testing. I'll run with this patch applied for a few days as well. -- Michael Welsh Duggan (md5i@md5i.com) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 24 17:18:31 2022 Received: (at 53352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2022 22:18:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46122 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC7fT-0000U1-MG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 17:18:31 -0500 Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:50248) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC7fO-0000Tk-AR for 53352@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 17:18:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-71-197-232-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.232.41]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7340FFA01F; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 22:18:19 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1643062699; bh=QMxvdQB14geq4NioA79+kXgeoLVY+G7ai3OytVJyv4g=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Y2S/nJZ5PnU/5DsO5cCumYyig6Sl2C8B2BVw70PHXj2vVydP0X3tMZzb8qnKBk2fN a3+Za/BTygGZlg9twx0sygXVhlGVKQHjn+kj0P+pYM1IG5X6ZTqhe2IwTSufATEcVQ tXgX6R6+RMc+G2KaFi+uhRcrQ+lS2uPsGqi3BxTo= From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Michael Welsh Duggan Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> <87iluae6ij.fsf@md5i.com> <87ee4x5w5g.fsf@gnus.org> <87o841cdq1.fsf@md5i.com> <8735ld854r.fsf@igel.home> <878rv56mm6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wnip2dep.fsf@gnus.org> <87y235ym7a.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wnion8c4.fsf@md5i.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 14:18:18 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87wnion8c4.fsf@md5i.com> (Michael Welsh Duggan's message of "Mon, 24 Jan 2022 16:15:55 -0500") Message-ID: <87k0eozsk5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Andreas Schwab , 53352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Michael Welsh Duggan writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> On 01/24/22 19:31 PM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: >>> Eric Abrahamsen writes: >>> >>>> I suppose the Emacs 28 ship has sailed? It would be nice to include this >>>> fix in the release. >>> >>> It's a regression from 27.2, so including a fix in Emacs 28 would be >>> appropriate (if it's simple enough). But we can run it on master for a >>> while before backporting. >> >> Okay, good. I'm attaching the patch I'm using right now -- this appears >> to fix it. I'll give it another day or two. > > I can confirm that this solves the problem for me, at least for some > simple local testing. I'll run with this patch applied for a few days > as well. Great, thank you! I'll aim to push on say Thursday, then we can let it simmer on master for a bit, then backport to 28. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 31 09:32:24 2022 Received: (at 53352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jan 2022 14:32:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38749 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nEXjE-0004sR-DB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 09:32:24 -0500 Received: from veto.sei.cmu.edu ([147.72.252.17]:58336) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nEXjB-0004rw-91 for 53352@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 09:32:22 -0500 Received: from delp.sei.cmu.edu (delp.sei.cmu.edu [10.64.21.31]) by veto.sei.cmu.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 20VEWECw010780; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 09:32:15 -0500 Received: from miko (neva-vpn-10-64-202-105.sei.cmu.edu [10.64.202.105]) by delp.sei.cmu.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 20VEWANs017601; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 09:32:10 -0500 From: Michael Welsh Duggan To: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> <87iluae6ij.fsf@md5i.com> <87ee4x5w5g.fsf@gnus.org> <87o841cdq1.fsf@md5i.com> <8735ld854r.fsf@igel.home> <878rv56mm6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wnip2dep.fsf@gnus.org> <87y235ym7a.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wnion8c4.fsf@md5i.com> <87k0eozsk5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 09:32:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87k0eozsk5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 24 Jan 2022 14:18:18 -0800") Message-ID: <8735l4gemt.fsf@md5i.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352 Cc: Michael Welsh Duggan , Lars Ingebrigtsen , Andreas Schwab , 53352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Michael Welsh Duggan writes: > >> Eric Abrahamsen writes: >> >>> On 01/24/22 19:31 PM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: >>>> Eric Abrahamsen writes: >>>> >>>>> I suppose the Emacs 28 ship has sailed? It would be nice to include this >>>>> fix in the release. >>>> >>>> It's a regression from 27.2, so including a fix in Emacs 28 would be >>>> appropriate (if it's simple enough). But we can run it on master for a >>>> while before backporting. >>> >>> Okay, good. I'm attaching the patch I'm using right now -- this appears >>> to fix it. I'll give it another day or two. >> >> I can confirm that this solves the problem for me, at least for some >> simple local testing. I'll run with this patch applied for a few days >> as well. > > Great, thank you! I'll aim to push on say Thursday, then we can let it > simmer on master for a bit, then backport to 28. Just a ping to make sure this didn't get forgotten. -- Michael Welsh Duggan (md5i@md5i.com) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 31 14:27:55 2022 Received: (at 53352-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jan 2022 19:27:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40972 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nEcLD-0000uq-5L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 14:27:55 -0500 Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:47632) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nEcLB-0000ua-Pd for 53352-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 14:27:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-71-197-232-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.232.41]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 55F31FA08F; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 19:27:46 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1643657266; bh=cBb7YV/GCrIGs6YyGYl/M/JiURSGvet9qVMg8tglde8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=bTL8yICrNM2W8P7GEZUWHRqXEqEn6ES9ZiEVffTax09/wdN0uEdgUKmBZUmgBHDl+ UhBBEO/f57P4mJZkhK4W0PFQ/Zq4EbxQSXnfcCXyr7LEp9swE4C1JDmgS8z+QWmAo6 6nXQtqkpsCBYPmAEX93gzr9nzk4b/zkGymSgNf9M= From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Michael Welsh Duggan Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> <87iluae6ij.fsf@md5i.com> <87ee4x5w5g.fsf@gnus.org> <87o841cdq1.fsf@md5i.com> <8735ld854r.fsf@igel.home> <878rv56mm6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wnip2dep.fsf@gnus.org> <87y235ym7a.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wnion8c4.fsf@md5i.com> <87k0eozsk5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <8735l4gemt.fsf@md5i.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 11:27:44 -0800 In-Reply-To: <8735l4gemt.fsf@md5i.com> (Michael Welsh Duggan's message of "Mon, 31 Jan 2022 09:32:10 -0500") Message-ID: <87r18niu33.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352-done Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Andreas Schwab , 53352-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 01/31/22 09:32 AM, Michael Welsh Duggan wrote: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> Michael Welsh Duggan writes: >> >>> Eric Abrahamsen writes: >>> >>>> On 01/24/22 19:31 PM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: >>>>> Eric Abrahamsen writes: >>>>> >>>>>> I suppose the Emacs 28 ship has sailed? It would be nice to include this >>>>>> fix in the release. >>>>> >>>>> It's a regression from 27.2, so including a fix in Emacs 28 would be >>>>> appropriate (if it's simple enough). But we can run it on master for a >>>>> while before backporting. >>>> >>>> Okay, good. I'm attaching the patch I'm using right now -- this appears >>>> to fix it. I'll give it another day or two. >>> >>> I can confirm that this solves the problem for me, at least for some >>> simple local testing. I'll run with this patch applied for a few days >>> as well. >> >> Great, thank you! I'll aim to push on say Thursday, then we can let it >> simmer on master for a bit, then backport to 28. > > Just a ping to make sure this didn't get forgotten. Not forgotten! But it was languishing in my local rebase pile, just pushed. I'm going to close this now, but please reopen if anything seems not to be working as it should. Eric From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 07 05:49:33 2022 Received: (at 53352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2022 10:49:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41118 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nH1aP-0007tL-Hq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2022 05:49:33 -0500 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:59384) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nH1aN-0007tC-DB for 53352@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2022 05:49:32 -0500 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4JsjZH2szxz1tG2h; Mon, 7 Feb 2022 11:49:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4JsjZH0Pb8z1qqkD; Mon, 7 Feb 2022 11:49:27 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WooaLNOy8MQh; Mon, 7 Feb 2022 11:49:26 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: Mv4I7AQX/Vo0bv9LjvsRl/D9UJu4Qoqs1nu1weP0pHfkN94gAc6hFbOjJa+lCbBl Received: from igel.home (ppp-46-244-191-16.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.191.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Mon, 7 Feb 2022 11:49:26 +0100 (CET) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 98B6E2C372D; Mon, 7 Feb 2022 11:49:25 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab To: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> <87iluae6ij.fsf@md5i.com> <87ee4x5w5g.fsf@gnus.org> <87o841cdq1.fsf@md5i.com> <8735ld854r.fsf@igel.home> <878rv56mm6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wnip2dep.fsf@gnus.org> <87y235ym7a.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2022 11:49:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87y235ym7a.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 24 Jan 2022 11:20:57 -0800") Message-ID: <87zgn3uf2i.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352 Cc: Michael Welsh Duggan , Lars Ingebrigtsen , 53352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) On Jan 24 2022, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > diff --git a/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el b/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el > index 2cf11fb12f..dd9c277805 100644 > --- a/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el > +++ b/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el > @@ -2867,12 +2867,6 @@ gnus-gnus-to-quick-newsrc-format > (princ "(setq gnus-newsrc-file-version ") > (princ (gnus-prin1-to-string gnus-version)) > (princ ")\n")) > - ;; Sort `gnus-newsrc-alist' according to order in > - ;; `gnus-group-list'. > - (setq gnus-newsrc-alist > - (mapcar (lambda (g) > - (nth 1 (gethash g gnus-newsrc-hashtb))) > - (delete "dummy.group" gnus-group-list))) But the sorting should still be permanent, shoudn't it? -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 07 11:50:47 2022 Received: (at 53352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2022 16:50:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43578 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nH7Dz-0003Lc-Ft for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2022 11:50:47 -0500 Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:58300) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nH7Du-0003LG-0j for 53352@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2022 11:50:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-71-197-232-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.232.41]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 15ED3FA0A6; Mon, 7 Feb 2022 16:50:35 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1644252636; bh=ePLqJZcejdbUz37dRGnrmuqr7F8XKtpc6jEaUc0Hl9c=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=SzTq45adG19aL5hDQLAxl255HiD8UHitFzDDEkQITAcH4eXNzfZZ53ZI2TauJn8Qq Df62qKF1+RBIcH7h7ChMwlaTYq9P54ZEpTHWZf6rEBB4gnUx4N2UixivkY/plWiE9Y KSZjbxdmQ7PAM1JqVCEAET6j2E6UvVDL+1Cuf1v8= From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Andreas Schwab Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> <87iluae6ij.fsf@md5i.com> <87ee4x5w5g.fsf@gnus.org> <87o841cdq1.fsf@md5i.com> <8735ld854r.fsf@igel.home> <878rv56mm6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wnip2dep.fsf@gnus.org> <87y235ym7a.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87zgn3uf2i.fsf@igel.home> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2022 08:50:34 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87zgn3uf2i.fsf@igel.home> (Andreas Schwab's message of "Mon, 07 Feb 2022 11:49:25 +0100") Message-ID: <87fsousjs5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352 Cc: Michael Welsh Duggan , Lars Ingebrigtsen , 53352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 02/07/22 11:49 AM, Andreas Schwab wrote: > On Jan 24 2022, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > >> diff --git a/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el b/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el >> index 2cf11fb12f..dd9c277805 100644 >> --- a/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el >> +++ b/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el >> @@ -2867,12 +2867,6 @@ gnus-gnus-to-quick-newsrc-format >> (princ "(setq gnus-newsrc-file-version ") >> (princ (gnus-prin1-to-string gnus-version)) >> (princ ")\n")) >> - ;; Sort `gnus-newsrc-alist' according to order in >> - ;; `gnus-group-list'. >> - (setq gnus-newsrc-alist >> - (mapcar (lambda (g) >> - (nth 1 (gethash g gnus-newsrc-hashtb))) >> - (delete "dummy.group" gnus-group-list))) > > But the sorting should still be permanent, shoudn't it? It really doesn't matter, at this point. `gnus-group-list' is the source of authority on sorting (if the user isn't using topic mode), and `gnus-newsrc-hashtb' is more and more just used for persisting to disk. We want to save the sort order on shutdown, but during a Gnus session it doesn't matter. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 07 12:42:39 2022 Received: (at 53352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2022 17:42:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43634 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nH82B-0004eD-7W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2022 12:42:39 -0500 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:56135) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nH828-0004e3-AT for 53352@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2022 12:42:37 -0500 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Jstky2r6sz1rBy0; Mon, 7 Feb 2022 18:42:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Jstky130Lz1qqkC; Mon, 7 Feb 2022 18:42:34 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3c4SogZW7Gd7; Mon, 7 Feb 2022 18:42:33 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: bBXatu1Y+uaSBgzMVN4d13RCQinatsajC8FwACP8EXmjSLbjp+f7zeKBquoicOol Received: from igel.home (ppp-46-244-191-16.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.191.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Mon, 7 Feb 2022 18:42:33 +0100 (CET) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D3BE22C3768; Mon, 7 Feb 2022 18:42:32 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab To: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> <87iluae6ij.fsf@md5i.com> <87ee4x5w5g.fsf@gnus.org> <87o841cdq1.fsf@md5i.com> <8735ld854r.fsf@igel.home> <878rv56mm6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wnip2dep.fsf@gnus.org> <87y235ym7a.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87zgn3uf2i.fsf@igel.home> <87fsousjs5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> X-Yow: .. the HIGHWAY is made out of LIME JELLO and my HONDA is a barbequed OYSTER! 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Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2022 18:42:32 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87fsousjs5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 07 Feb 2022 08:50:34 -0800") Message-ID: <87r18evaif.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352 Cc: Michael Welsh Duggan , Lars Ingebrigtsen , 53352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) On Feb 07 2022, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > On 02/07/22 11:49 AM, Andreas Schwab wrote: >> On Jan 24 2022, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >> >>> diff --git a/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el b/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el >>> index 2cf11fb12f..dd9c277805 100644 >>> --- a/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el >>> +++ b/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el >>> @@ -2867,12 +2867,6 @@ gnus-gnus-to-quick-newsrc-format >>> (princ "(setq gnus-newsrc-file-version ") >>> (princ (gnus-prin1-to-string gnus-version)) >>> (princ ")\n")) >>> - ;; Sort `gnus-newsrc-alist' according to order in >>> - ;; `gnus-group-list'. >>> - (setq gnus-newsrc-alist >>> - (mapcar (lambda (g) >>> - (nth 1 (gethash g gnus-newsrc-hashtb))) >>> - (delete "dummy.group" gnus-group-list))) >> >> But the sorting should still be permanent, shoudn't it? > > It really doesn't matter, at this point. It doesn't? I get erroneous behaviour without this. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 07 16:17:14 2022 Received: (at 53352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2022 21:17:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43944 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nHBNq-0001h8-K2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2022 16:17:14 -0500 Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:47900) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nHBNo-0001gv-MF for 53352@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2022 16:17:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-71-197-232-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.232.41]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8BBEBFA0A6; Mon, 7 Feb 2022 21:17:06 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1644268626; bh=8U5aHUoo2wuu8iOiX9rOAldMOZukZXllc+1jHS1d7kw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=F7ZeMSJw2C9NIvChcxe+qGB3wgCqOC3STv6XMo558bn0dXfQoyvCvKQhNYUIgkrrT K3/Wz2cBE9OyrwWAwPKdhObRmuQt4UGFMWd27eB6TxlehgAQd5HbbwZEHX7YywGpUp MdJKEgkTB1/thXfCGiQ+99nFagc7qujJWkQq+Khk= From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Andreas Schwab Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> <87iluae6ij.fsf@md5i.com> <87ee4x5w5g.fsf@gnus.org> <87o841cdq1.fsf@md5i.com> <8735ld854r.fsf@igel.home> <878rv56mm6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wnip2dep.fsf@gnus.org> <87y235ym7a.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87zgn3uf2i.fsf@igel.home> <87fsousjs5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r18evaif.fsf@igel.home> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2022 13:17:05 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87r18evaif.fsf@igel.home> (Andreas Schwab's message of "Mon, 07 Feb 2022 18:42:32 +0100") Message-ID: <874k5as7fy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352 Cc: Michael Welsh Duggan , Lars Ingebrigtsen , 53352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 02/07/22 18:42 PM, Andreas Schwab wrote: > On Feb 07 2022, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > >> On 02/07/22 11:49 AM, Andreas Schwab wrote: >>> On Jan 24 2022, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >>> >>>> diff --git a/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el b/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el >>>> index 2cf11fb12f..dd9c277805 100644 >>>> --- a/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el >>>> +++ b/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el >>>> @@ -2867,12 +2867,6 @@ gnus-gnus-to-quick-newsrc-format >>>> (princ "(setq gnus-newsrc-file-version ") >>>> (princ (gnus-prin1-to-string gnus-version)) >>>> (princ ")\n")) >>>> - ;; Sort `gnus-newsrc-alist' according to order in >>>> - ;; `gnus-group-list'. >>>> - (setq gnus-newsrc-alist >>>> - (mapcar (lambda (g) >>>> - (nth 1 (gethash g gnus-newsrc-hashtb))) >>>> - (delete "dummy.group" gnus-group-list))) >>> >>> But the sorting should still be permanent, shoudn't it? >> >> It really doesn't matter, at this point. > > It doesn't? I get erroneous behaviour without this. It shouldn't -- if you're not using topic mode, the group sorting is drawn from `gnus-group-list'. And when you save->shutdown->restart Gnus, `gnus-group-list' sorts `gnus-newsrc-alist', which gets written to file, and on restart it is used to reconstruct the sort order for `gnus-newsrc-alist'. Can you tell me what the erroneous behaviour is, and also what "this" refers to? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 07 16:34:37 2022 Received: (at 53352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2022 21:34:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43980 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nHBef-00028S-3a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2022 16:34:37 -0500 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:38149) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nHBea-00028G-8N for 53352@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2022 16:34:35 -0500 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4JsztY5Xk4z1rF0p; Mon, 7 Feb 2022 22:34:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4JsztY3pNnz1qqkG; Mon, 7 Feb 2022 22:34:29 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WYlJWmSFUP_C; Mon, 7 Feb 2022 22:34:28 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: GH4o6HxDkFZwBnunvdTkMOZcZBE1xfNvyvfLq5RIxupBCj6qB7r38btfNuExO9jL Received: from igel.home (ppp-46-244-191-16.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.191.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Mon, 7 Feb 2022 22:34:28 +0100 (CET) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4F4B02C37EE; Mon, 7 Feb 2022 22:34:28 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab To: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> <87iluae6ij.fsf@md5i.com> <87ee4x5w5g.fsf@gnus.org> <87o841cdq1.fsf@md5i.com> <8735ld854r.fsf@igel.home> <878rv56mm6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wnip2dep.fsf@gnus.org> <87y235ym7a.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87zgn3uf2i.fsf@igel.home> <87fsousjs5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r18evaif.fsf@igel.home> <874k5as7fy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> X-Yow: A GRAM?? A BRAM... A GROOM... A BROOM... Oh, Yeh!! Wash the ROOM!! Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2022 22:34:28 +0100 In-Reply-To: <874k5as7fy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 07 Feb 2022 13:17:05 -0800") Message-ID: <87fsouuzrv.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352 Cc: Michael Welsh Duggan , Lars Ingebrigtsen , 53352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) On Feb 07 2022, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > Can you tell me what the erroneous behaviour is, Group rearrangements in *Group* are forgotten. > and also what "this" refers to? The hunk reverted with s/delete/remove/. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 07 18:51:18 2022 Received: (at 53352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2022 23:51:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44131 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nHDmw-0007sf-I0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2022 18:51:18 -0500 Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:58794) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nHDmu-0007sS-E9 for 53352@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2022 18:51:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-71-197-232-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.232.41]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7E097FA0A6; Mon, 7 Feb 2022 23:51:10 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1644277870; bh=MDGI0oVKhLQuzUbjEYDDPPGNLrjBZwzNyEmNXxiwGr8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=XbhMHeuB822i/4iQFcnoF84OmpofT1Aykl5QGv8Nd0oslNh/TC0KqiALFEEUMH+dR 8xfUlomJ4RLjrvJ0YQDBv5enED6lNcLq9/SAoRmo08BXhCUO0lZMuQ0hB027NTLSzT yNzC2Z/rpcK3pXhswN4475t8uJXVENU9M2FGaF3M= From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Andreas Schwab Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> <87iluae6ij.fsf@md5i.com> <87ee4x5w5g.fsf@gnus.org> <87o841cdq1.fsf@md5i.com> <8735ld854r.fsf@igel.home> <878rv56mm6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wnip2dep.fsf@gnus.org> <87y235ym7a.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87zgn3uf2i.fsf@igel.home> <87fsousjs5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r18evaif.fsf@igel.home> <874k5as7fy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87fsouuzrv.fsf@igel.home> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2022 15:51:09 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87fsouuzrv.fsf@igel.home> (Andreas Schwab's message of "Mon, 07 Feb 2022 22:34:28 +0100") Message-ID: <87ee4eqlqq.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352 Cc: Michael Welsh Duggan , Lars Ingebrigtsen , 53352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 02/07/22 22:34 PM, Andreas Schwab wrote: > On Feb 07 2022, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > >> Can you tell me what the erroneous behaviour is, > > Group rearrangements in *Group* are forgotten. `gnus-group-prepare-flat' (which I have to assume you're running) draws its ordering from `gnus-group-list'. I'll try to reproduce your error. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 08 23:38:11 2022 Received: (at 53352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2022 04:38:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49357 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nHek7-0003n4-C9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Feb 2022 23:38:11 -0500 Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:40878) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nHek6-0003mp-2k for 53352@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Feb 2022 23:38:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-71-197-232-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.232.41]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 39D25FA0A6; Wed, 9 Feb 2022 04:38:04 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1644381484; bh=6AIwtDSjCfNpCHb6Y/x4Oec5xgM/qA4GQyYD9K9xC5I=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:From; b=FWKSknS2WwPOOnoicLXCnJMHKLnKpywKJAI1bhUbrXgitN/++Os1CmQJaNtzWi9OU mloIgaujpYPi2zO+gRETZgDFYsMb4xV7kuNADhRgTZqC9tO4TCPboAjGeSykvvrwxs 3/CZ9ckk4cQ0NVjLc3ScDaoBl8lY76warWW1vWgg= From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Andreas Schwab Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> <87iluae6ij.fsf@md5i.com> <87ee4x5w5g.fsf@gnus.org> <87o841cdq1.fsf@md5i.com> <8735ld854r.fsf@igel.home> <878rv56mm6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wnip2dep.fsf@gnus.org> <87y235ym7a.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87zgn3uf2i.fsf@igel.home> <87fsousjs5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r18evaif.fsf@igel.home> <874k5as7fy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87fsouuzrv.fsf@igel.home> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2022 20:38:02 -0800 Message-ID: <87czjwslhx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352 Cc: Michael Welsh Duggan , Lars Ingebrigtsen , 53352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 02/07/22 22:34 PM, Andreas Schwab wrote: > On Feb 07 2022, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > >> Can you tell me what the erroneous behaviour is, > > Group rearrangements in *Group* are forgotten. So far I haven't been able to reproduce this: 1. Turn off topic-mode, if necessary. 2. Kill a group, and yank it somewhere else. 3. Re-list groups with "l": sort order doesn't change. 4. Save Gnus, re-list with "l": sort order doesn't change. 5. Shut Gnus down, restart: sort order is preserved. And I tried the above using the sort commands instead of killing and yanking groups. Can you give me a recipe to produce the error? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 09 03:46:02 2022 Received: (at 53352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2022 08:46:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49734 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nHiby-0001B8-1J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Feb 2022 03:46:02 -0500 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:39033) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nHibw-000188-5h for 53352@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Feb 2022 03:46:00 -0500 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Jttks3w90z1sbmS; Wed, 9 Feb 2022 09:45:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Jttks1ZBsz1qqkH; Wed, 9 Feb 2022 09:45:57 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oGONciWgclmI; Wed, 9 Feb 2022 09:45:56 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: BcrEXnc2WBGFJHgjAZc0T9VtpGE9JoqjA++zmU5fD5ysl7/0BBH7tUyg/VcRNeTw Received: from igel.home (ppp-46-244-168-183.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.168.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Wed, 9 Feb 2022 09:45:56 +0100 (CET) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EFC802C36B9; Wed, 9 Feb 2022 09:45:55 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab To: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> <87iluae6ij.fsf@md5i.com> <87ee4x5w5g.fsf@gnus.org> <87o841cdq1.fsf@md5i.com> <8735ld854r.fsf@igel.home> <878rv56mm6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wnip2dep.fsf@gnus.org> <87y235ym7a.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87zgn3uf2i.fsf@igel.home> <87fsousjs5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r18evaif.fsf@igel.home> <874k5as7fy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87fsouuzrv.fsf@igel.home> <87czjwslhx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> X-Yow: Two with FLUFFO, hold th' BEETS..side of SOYETTES! Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2022 09:45:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87czjwslhx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Tue, 08 Feb 2022 20:38:02 -0800") Message-ID: <87k0e4mnr0.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352 Cc: Michael Welsh Duggan , Lars Ingebrigtsen , 53352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) Try calling gnus-make-hashtable-from-newsrc-alist. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 10 14:38:44 2022 Received: (at 53352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2022 19:38:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57180 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nIFHA-0001KB-Hk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2022 14:38:44 -0500 Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:49180) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nIFH8-0001Ju-9G for 53352@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2022 14:38:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-71-197-232-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.232.41]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 144E5FA08F; Thu, 10 Feb 2022 19:38:35 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1644521916; bh=GyeWKS+wrjYbLVAW96XTxoVs5iBP8ZqFD+3PjytiWgU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:From; b=cKAnaep7WoU3feGa6cMQ+XIrpI7Zm7NlDVF4AEGm8DT7Nyhf+Hm3+iqRZz19k893v Ku2HEZ51AUjMhedUpoA0oopK9CPX2IpMsZG4I5PzRa+o8kcE45m369rycTgowPeGic OW4GysKlZA2HdIMWlrhI3bZrgEwJFMDlBZpgpDT4= From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Andreas Schwab Subject: Re: bug#53352: 29.0.50; IMAP INBOX not refreshing using `gnus-group-get-new-news' References: <87fspkiqxt.fsf@md5i.com> <87o845tm9b.fsf@gnus.org> <874k5vg2ld.fsf@md5i.com> <87o842boci.fsf@gnus.org> <87iluae6ij.fsf@md5i.com> <87ee4x5w5g.fsf@gnus.org> <87o841cdq1.fsf@md5i.com> <8735ld854r.fsf@igel.home> <878rv56mm6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wnip2dep.fsf@gnus.org> <87y235ym7a.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87zgn3uf2i.fsf@igel.home> <87fsousjs5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r18evaif.fsf@igel.home> <874k5as7fy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87fsouuzrv.fsf@igel.home> <87czjwslhx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k0e4mnr0.fsf@igel.home> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 11:38:34 -0800 Message-ID: <87y22i8qbp.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53352 Cc: Michael Welsh Duggan , Lars Ingebrigtsen , 53352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Andreas Schwab writes: > Try calling gnus-make-hashtable-from-newsrc-alist. Nope, still can't guess what you're talking about. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:12 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 12:24:07 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator