From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 15 06:06:15 2022 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jan 2022 11:06:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39216 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n8gsx-0004vs-Jn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 06:06:15 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:50576) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n8gsu-0004vi-9G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 06:06:14 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33410) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n8gsu-0001ga-6W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 06:06:12 -0500 Received: from [2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2] (port=37914 helo=quimby.gnus.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n8gss-0008Pi-HZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 06:06:11 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:To:From: Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=pVP++RcBfDNSr4Zf8J5JyQKcgOv47Zis4jyD08Fd3wg=; b=XtndeClPOAOx33Ifh0ovPOHhI6 VrSjbhCJAikmj2MdMNdiuCo1NSMWJMATZiqGbEDzAXnnwx3/YEdSEIPYXVENYZ5B6hUoLVRqkXtMR WtYLxL3dnm6Kdwo6WA14Za8HS7HhbVehmb33E6bYgdnma2Zz9z05rcBk4bsXC/9hha3c=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n8gsm-0003lk-UX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 12:06:07 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 29.0.50; wishlist: eww should handle Referrer better X-Now-Playing: Joni Mitchell's _Archives: The Early Years (5)_: "Both Sides Now" Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 12:06:03 +0100 Message-ID: <87h7a5uulg.fsf@gnus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Currently eww handles Referrer inconsistently, I think? (I haven't actually looked at the code.) I think it does send over Referrer when doing normal clicks, but it doesn't do that when fetching image [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -35 X-Spam_score: -3.6 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Currently eww handles Referrer inconsistently, I think? (I haven't actually looked at the code.) I think it does send over Referrer when doing normal clicks, but it doesn't do that when fetching images. By default, eww should send over referrer on all requests -- if they are "same site" requests. (Some sites refuse to work if they don't get the expected referrer.) But eww should not (by default) do Referrer when doing cross-site requests (for privacy reasons). And there should be a way to customise this behaviour -- for instance, to always send Referrer. In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 66, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.31, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2022-01-15 built on xo Repository revision: 7651f044e26d5139d7140e0c4fd052893ef422d7 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12013000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 21 08:29:12 2022 Received: (at 53281) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jan 2022 13:29:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60630 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nAtya-0005Ep-BS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 08:29:12 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:34930) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nAtyV-0005EN-Nf for 53281@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 08:29:11 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=l3UxkqXbjFIC29RNU/02RaUfumoikl1Qk9t5vj36ARc=; b=Qx2aJj9XWIl/U5/L1+GO8sS1sO BXZaxA8rrS5kOombdOSurSMJKxBtc93iRS5OQvr3l38IQIlqWCrbTt7QlyrjufN4ZA6Uv86xsIsVx Vb5ofyYzuPdUyb6dbx2FYZcZqkiEjxuB78pfs0WfFn3lL+uUHQaSl2Pckh2yPobhhtwY=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nAtyN-0004e8-0Q for 53281@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 14:29:01 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: 53281@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#53281: 29.0.50; wishlist: eww should handle Referrer better References: <87h7a5uulg.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: David Bowie's _Brilliant Adventure (2): The Buddha Of Suburbia_: "Strangers When We Meet" Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 14:28:58 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87h7a5uulg.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 15 Jan 2022 12:06:03 +0100") Message-ID: <87h79xp691.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Currently eww handles Referrer inconsistently, I think? (I haven't > actually looked at the code.) I think it does send over Referrer when > doing normal clicks, but it doesn't do that when fetching [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53281 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Currently eww handles Referrer inconsistently, I think? (I haven't > actually looked at the code.) I think it does send over Referrer when > doing normal clicks, but it doesn't do that when fetching images. No, it seems to do everything properly here (except when hitting `g' in the eww buffer -- it sends over a referer then too, but I don't really think we care). It punts all this to url-lastloc-privacy-level, which allows the user to customise all this, so there's nothing to do here, and I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 21 08:29:17 2022 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jan 2022 13:29:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60635 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nAtye-0005F9-IX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 08:29:17 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:34942) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nAtyb-0005Ec-L9 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 08:29:13 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=0y88pLhzWMtRZT87qzUnt8yzUO53VZwZv/VGhVRcALU=; b=sxGP4iiM4oRmfL09l5WbpEKln5 UnVsVjSTXc6fOt5H6SopIlv182hdraSo4u2lZdbCoGmTKtXweudc9fmWxOUmdQwuS5XdYQwNMHYlf 8Hg+sxwr7J92Kp+tlNrmuY6vQm65EZDONWzLzLwALYT9WCz4Zv00dByaAUdioldqJkH8=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nAtyT-0004eI-I6 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 14:29:07 +0100 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 14:29:05 +0100 Message-Id: <87fsphp68u.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #53281 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: tags 53281 notabug close 53281 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 53281 notabug close 53281 quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 22 23:28:30 2022 Received: (at 53281) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2022 04:28:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38386 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBUUP-0003C1-SZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 23:28:30 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33526) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBUUN-0003Bp-E8 for 53281@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 23:28:29 -0500 Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=35992 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nBUUI-0004SI-6Q; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 23:28:22 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=f0tAo9u+9E0hwRxURHqI2bzPaxJUGf+bAJ26XoETsuE=; b=MYjRBdi1bRh+ 1DqmfXXQEEpWO34bxK0J+1dO5vKXtcopkEk2TdDHuALEJR9N3ETZBChPdGr9M4jxSON8pOOUVTtM0 XcQ7ThNgsgfmWkAPiMu11soTFSDIIH+cOQe0xY6qVzbbhdMsKsc/SQk3jrsfNVfgNSg8f6fvx91Ks 9dh5+CRCMn1DOsD9/KirZDZaw8PzfgQKpU3D16UoCYRJ/9x9inQWzU3/IAf60JoSBlUlvKlhYViu3 B9cw62VzNIDBjgPK488Rh6kOepqRfznALylY83XJHDaKcrCYhl+ABangAt2u/VOR5Y02D6aYlKz0u WOgLOCEnIBTEFjR6GeCulw==; Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nBUUH-0005Fc-M1; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 23:28:21 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <87h79xp691.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 21 Jan 2022 14:28:58 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#53281: 29.0.50; wishlist: eww should handle Referrer better References: <87h7a5uulg.fsf@gnus.org> <87h79xp691.fsf@gnus.org> Message-Id: Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 23:28:21 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53281 Cc: 53281@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Browsers are "supposed to" provide the referrer field "correctly", but that's not a good thing to do. The effect is to give web sites avoidable information about users' browsinge habits. Thus, it is better to do what Icecat does. I think that Icecat gives a "correct" referrer field when you navigate between pages in the same site, but gives a fake value when navigating between sites. I think the fake value may be the same site that you've navigated to. I think EWW should do what Icecat does. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 23 07:25:00 2022 Received: (at 53281) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2022 12:25:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38724 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBbvY-0007RP-BE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2022 07:25:00 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:37410) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBbvX-0007R9-2t for 53281@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2022 07:24:59 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=iobsf3mSValr/IFIipuB1tafo5quoilSxamTQ1qIrCs=; b=aaxyEm5BkmcsSf6XlqaC3apnTF 9F645K3OrR9xbH1ZruQkukm2WaHLdvNu2oBRfBQUuwjW1r+cNu1Tq6CmzmueTIxeUf+PBtp5TNojW ypM1G8RkVU0JYhgsta1PiPu9T3P32RuSI9SwpoLR22/M1c5dotLpLJsT5n5aJjwt/21A=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nBbvO-0004ql-F0; Sun, 23 Jan 2022 13:24:52 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Richard Stallman Subject: Re: bug#53281: 29.0.50; wishlist: eww should handle Referrer better References: <87h7a5uulg.fsf@gnus.org> <87h79xp691.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: Sade's _Promise_: "War Of the Hearts" Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 13:24:48 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 22 Jan 2022 23:28:21 -0500") Message-ID: <87h79uabcf.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Richard Stallman writes: > I think EWW should do what Icecat does. It does. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53281 Cc: 53281@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Richard Stallman writes: > I think EWW should do what Icecat does. It does. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:10:23 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 12:24:14 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator