From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 13 11:51:27 2022 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2022 16:51:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34381 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n83Jv-0001K9-GQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 11:51:27 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:54048) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n83Jq-0001Jx-9y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 11:51:26 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46596) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n83Jp-0006iT-Hl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 11:51:22 -0500 Received: from mail-ua1-f49.google.com ([209.85.222.49]:36711) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n83Jm-0004Bp-Kb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 11:51:20 -0500 Received: by mail-ua1-f49.google.com with SMTP id r15so12322488uao.3 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 08:51:10 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=rw43IuSbObPmQ2JfBmOJOZF4PbJBH3R7+3z9zDJpBDI=; b=bx7wo/MuumMpj8+S1heN3wC78eR4Es24COa3ODQBJ6W4/tXlRM1DMfjDo/DSaBzvje IjdVc8qiNvUXkSC8I91v6Qi8bhw9GSZDKdi5d1GVLKb3972tvGZMzSJRois22v7xnTRY y6Acml0N+hf8LnzPyckPmcplqDRnaE0VVSF5b2eEtFrMk+BQwvSpQNEc7kXn9hd/woJ4 D8zOiYsl90R1rQnNSVBe/iuclFdk0voIxg2tel0+6P0vsD3IpIBwuRqZST1I2eH7pTbq 6nKVodnHcH/vGGhi4uYUnfH9YPq0GS8TC+XNSlatBfrZ643gDJpdktwPIyphu13gD7tb X06Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533sAHfzzdmOtYW5/czQqiyIuH6Ms2ZkGTn80c/XYrI0+jr0g0z8 F8dmFd8ONJ12zpV4IBJslt7CPjYlEmrDJxf9Mys95987mYYJrw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzFYbiAb/s58pbXjpk46prkE5kTuWLwieiNgLjU8G193T0EI469sElqgC+Vd3wbhNF+WHHJgnbPBIsm5fhFJKk= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6102:3ecc:: with SMTP id n12mr2611574vsv.78.1642092670017; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 08:51:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Yates Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 11:50:59 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: 29.0.50; pgtk startup: flashes white background before painting black To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.222.49; envelope-from=john.yates.sheets@gmail.com; helo=mail-ua1-f49.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.248, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) emacs -Q --eval '(set-background-color "#000000")' In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.30, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2022-01-12 built on envy Repository revision: 492bf1e06edb4324a643ccb15dd6062762145f17 Repository branch: master System Description: Ubuntu 21.10 Configured using: 'configure --prefix=/usr/local/emacs '--program-transform-name=s/^ctags$/ctags.emacs/' --disable-year2038 --disable-acl --with-modules --with-json --with-file-notification --with-native-compilation --with-xwidgets --with-pgtk' Configured features: CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS WEBP XIM XWIDGETS GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t indent-tabs-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: John Yates writes: > emacs -Q --eval '(set-background-color "#000000")' You get the same in a non-pgtk built, too -- and I think that's to be expected? Emacs first pops up the frame and then starts doing the --eval stuff, I think. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53232 Cc: 53232@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) John Yates writes: > emacs -Q --eval '(set-background-color "#000000")' You get the same in a non-pgtk built, too -- and I think that's to be expected? Emacs first pops up the frame and then starts doing the --eval stuff, I think. If you want to set the background colour in this manner, putting it in the early init file should do the trick, if I remember correctly. So I think everything here works as designed? Anybody have any comments here? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 14 02:53:02 2022 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jan 2022 07:53:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35349 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n8HOP-0001NO-DI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2022 02:53:02 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:34248) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n8HOO-0001Mn-48 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2022 02:53:00 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=iItZfsdjs+zNssff0Gcom5eS+l6mDnFfpC3SauTIRdk=; b=Fzz+Sz1hHWfnTNPQALsmG/QP/J BA/Uh4mrdpJbRP+J3zvexgKIVuT8fvU//pntQ1JcwowN6yZ7Q0U7TjnaF+orZhubuoAN1EVpSZ62g v3UtNuoiTwTIpyJaGrtwDBwoLZVJ3+ZxFrsp3nK14pUYVZO1na7Mk4t6W5T8d7b8od7A=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n8HOG-0001SE-1V for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2022 08:52:54 +0100 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 08:52:51 +0100 Message-Id: <87ee5au52k.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #53232 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Emacs first pops up the frame and then starts doing the > --eval stuff, I think. Yes. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 15 02:59:49 2022 Received: (at 53232) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jan 2022 07:59:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38863 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n8dyX-0004xB-Lw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 02:59:49 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:46108) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n8dyV-0004wu-W4 for 53232@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 02:59:48 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=vCpotA8NdpUnYHxyFkB9IPH5NYo9a52/1UrKkTaenbQ=; b=iJML22VpEB51NON4VYVwixDG9c yei5SkhGvLifdW1m6/IXZWJG1sGWOM5nNTP5aQb9hiBxxxQEJvgdt7Exmy86eYmRmNYWF++hl/K0f WOeAC2N4aUsKE4ZG4R1KBqjc8yauMyWFaNRfglCyIC2jTrINQ81j3ZJZj808mfRHTMDM=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n8dyM-0002Ns-06; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 08:59:40 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#53232: 29.0.50; pgtk startup: flashes white background before painting black References: <87fspqu52q.fsf@gnus.org> <83y23i1qou.fsf@gnu.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAElBMVEX16t2UXz5VNytR MSfWlGD////m+Z8KAAAAAWJLR0QF+G/pxwAAAAd0SU1FB+YBDwc6ESOcg9cAAAGmSURBVDjLdZTb ldwgEEQ1Pg7A1eoEGpyAwAGAhvxjcjWPmdGulg8diUv1G23bT+sRguH72rZf2VeMKaYc3qsM8LED +FPbVOScwuf6ACRk8QZwaQ1ul2e+AGjb55ErELTnPcgh3gKY5Xvwd7v1kXDcOz+qafcRXyB0YPWo h3iqF4BoNSNhZf5YdtqJlhureAEhVQep+S4/3wptDlAYVaL3V1SGilMJMPr2AiogKCi9JmkByxCK tLTy7ImsssdsvQn6e3v2jrxAMqNX4+cV0Kr6EGjZnqm3/wKApmVnGqvnKfY6AVFRxyzIBdRkkBA4 eXPgOjiosA7GiP1xMJwwkwMCizw5Qc/J9jmr4l2IHQTXJBnVdN8cbwd8cw1m/aO3bZjqLcj/9nDA EHaXTuddcpzpAKpEl8aloIS7LHCtonsP95H6TZNgWhWtMZ/KnUIQ1r2rqmcvGQb4uJKl+tPbSYCv QOycpl62MEzRk4N1zUU8KEwnBKwpmydrR8RP1m7KeNZz5hWUKXcwNlkOsG/vMPxfMoaadrSId9zC jIqmAlXVFctW+fGv9B9uV6ECSnYrMwAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMi0wMS0xNVQwNzo1 ODoxNyswMDowMB4v7YEAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjItMDEtMTVUMDc6NTg6MTcrMDA6 MDBvclU9AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Joni Mitchell's _Archives: The Early Years (3)_: "Born To Take The Highway (Live at The 2nd Fret, Philadelphia, PA, 3-17-1967)" Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 08:59:37 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83y23i1qou.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 14 Jan 2022 13:50:57 +0200") Message-ID: <878rvho2dy.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> You get the same in a non-pgtk built, too -- and I think that's to be >> expected? Emacs first pops up the frame and then starts doing the >> --eval stuff, I think. > > Yes. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53232 Cc: 53232@debbugs.gnu.org, john@yates-sheets.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> You get the same in a non-pgtk built, too -- and I think that's to be >> expected? Emacs first pops up the frame and then starts doing the >> --eval stuff, I think. > > Yes. To summarise -- to avoid the flashes, you have to put something like (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(background-color . "#000000")) in the early-init.el file. 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Content preview: tags 53232 notabug close 53232 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 53232 notabug close 53232 quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 15 16:47:15 2022 Received: (at 53232) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jan 2022 21:47:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42114 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n8qtH-0005PE-LD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 16:47:15 -0500 Received: from mail-vk1-f173.google.com ([209.85.221.173]:35561) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n8qtF-0005Ou-3b for 53232@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 16:47:14 -0500 Received: by mail-vk1-f173.google.com with SMTP id 19so8023158vkl.2 for <53232@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 13:47:13 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=g00EJG1pGQh0q1++1qn1WanOUFJddRrQUieMgMM48bs=; b=glozKp7tMfThHxfkmTn5mA6FHICZsOJRLQAJEDgGhMCKhI4gW/5llZT+C67oA3MVNw mNooUUtqhacHk/5cKvcJ5rYZv66SKVWzuqJ2ZjxutH4qGYUDBoqb/xJtP04KPa3nomVw JZOOduY5Lzr3RkMXen9S6ERnKHyD9okU1/W8YLoum/JFtW3xNtFQEv6FB1JfZDMAap0k 0Zv1pP7KwStmbDMZvKGrJWBpo1kIl1m8G8G0YBd3O/1zLJv6GBuceDZ1lstKEtGmy0PF lyhWUI6YE/OlZ+2MpESWAieiLnbOxWHOya+SbQPt2v3DMoV2K9jUGPo8sN6O4ENgJfJ3 U6Uw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5319ljxVukQj2O7fLKEQW0q2s/tXXnMMdlcFNo1Yg1Lx3gOQewM1 4xC2z4RAfmloe8IcPr7nI4VnH4g5cx3NxDwtIg7ceqV3d6r+fg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyCYIOs5SVGxUVgM3OLaqXrOPlqQAIyfSHBTLhiiuPg1HrrK5CR+iY7GfQKmEE6jEj0ZwStlb1XMCdlZ6q84nE= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6122:218b:: with SMTP id j11mr2604041vkd.19.1642283227365; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 13:47:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Yates Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 16:46:56 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: reopen 53232 To: 53232@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53232 Cc: Po Lu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) I originally reported this issue via email to emacs-devel. Stefan suggested that I try early-init.el and suggested that a bug report would be more appropriate. I attempted to use early-init.el without success and so set about to submit a bug report. My previous erroneous repro case emacs -Q --eval '(set-background-color "#000000")' was an attempt to comply with the advice in the bug template which asks for a -Q repro. That said, the sub-optimal behavior is real: * early-init.el: (custom-set-variables '(default-frame-alist '((fullscreen . maximized) (background-color . "#000000") (foreground-color . "#ffffff"))) '(inhibit-startup-screen t) ) * init.el: [EMPTY] This time, before being so quick to close, please confirm that any suggested fix actually works. My confusion about sequencing makes me think that there might be a place for an --early-eval option. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: John Yates writes: > I originally reported this issue via email to emacs-devel. > Stefan suggested that I try early-init.el and suggested > that a bug report would be more appropriate. > > I attempted to use early-init. [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53232 Cc: Po Lu , 53232@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) John Yates writes: > I originally reported this issue via email to emacs-devel. > Stefan suggested that I try early-init.el and suggested > that a bug report would be more appropriate. > > I attempted to use early-init.el without success and > so set about to submit a bug report. > > My previous erroneous repro case > > emacs -Q --eval '(set-background-color "#000000")' > > was an attempt to comply with the advice in the bug > template which asks for a -Q repro. Ah, I see. OK, reopening. > That said, the sub-optimal behavior is real: > > * early-init.el: > > (custom-set-variables > '(default-frame-alist > '((fullscreen . maximized) > (background-color . "#000000") > (foreground-color . "#ffffff"))) > '(inhibit-startup-screen t) > ) > > * init.el: > > [EMPTY] I'm unable to reproduce this with or without pgtk -- Emacs doesn't flash the default background colour on startup, as far as I can tell. (This is on Debian/bookworm with Gnome Shell, if that matters.) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 17 12:37:47 2022 Received: (at 53232) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jan 2022 17:37:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47859 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n9Vwx-0000YQ-Dn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 12:37:47 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47656) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n9Vwv-0000YE-Uz for 53232@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 12:37:46 -0500 Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=43602 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9Vwq-0003Vh-DB; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 12:37:40 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=3I/Prxuby+rpM953MZY1IzCBplUwHPWmoG0OukJcViI=; b=Jw6yBcoHdNfO F0QnwxPVHmxjDupKBuZkVh4p4PHl4Rin5rCqsgcEBSzzwMMtBeDlyuuy2zxJzJHJDOBm/90QIzgKE m7RIgHeLR4msrwZ2nOd3vxxJNSmbbpeU6bBb+AERCPxOHST5Fzh4nL7qjp2q+yWhIwi7FWKqImWnC h7dERhG3YicPPT5Ydr3cumq4xWMVTa1eXvOdbCEceQs//kBCNISYvAfb8azBZKVP95hgnhOQfVkC5 zuH45xLjNuqsYn0o0j3xzK/PhpNmu+wnIMJ6S6xrdU1u9n2op1gtLxoPGOs7OfA+NFOsdsW/J6fe2 MujIuX1F2v33QNblR0Hr7Q==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4324 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9Vwq-0000XG-Eg; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 12:37:40 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 19:37:31 +0200 Message-Id: <8335lmw9es.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <87ilui5l7h.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Mon, 17 Jan 2022 18:24:50 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#53232: reopen 53232 References: <87ilui5l7h.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53232 Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 53232@debbugs.gnu.org, john@yates-sheets.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 18:24:50 +0100 > Cc: Po Lu , 53232@debbugs.gnu.org > > > That said, the sub-optimal behavior is real: > > > > * early-init.el: > > > > (custom-set-variables > > '(default-frame-alist > > '((fullscreen . maximized) > > (background-color . "#000000") > > (foreground-color . "#ffffff"))) > > '(inhibit-startup-screen t) > > ) > > > > * init.el: > > > > [EMPTY] > > I'm unable to reproduce this with or without pgtk -- Emacs doesn't flash > the default background colour on startup, as far as I can tell. (This > is on Debian/bookworm with Gnome Shell, if that matters.) Isn't it true that to have the initial frame appear from the get-go with some non-default attributes, one must change the X resources? I have a vague recollection that this was always like that, and was never perceived as a problem. How do you want Emacs to perform the initialization without first creating a GUI frame, and how can it create the first GUI frame except with the default attributes? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 17 15:39:58 2022 Received: (at 53232) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jan 2022 20:39:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48138 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n9YnG-0003as-Jg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 15:39:58 -0500 Received: from mail-ua1-f46.google.com ([209.85.222.46]:43816) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n9YnE-0003af-3G for 53232@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 15:39:57 -0500 Received: by mail-ua1-f46.google.com with SMTP id 2so7953278uax.10 for <53232@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 12:39:56 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=oUz8iWzbKDeXtb+i13a39zDoOyZNVZ2LVN2DTsI1OZA=; b=NVGifmkpFWbz7LqfRTLA89470Yk7KkzE0BWYh5Kmkz3N5iZdC7yeVMuCgB/6YQZcgF dVjhUm/PeoM1y06546L4jMCzAmaijSdbHLHd9dyHYzYnx6LmpIbBHNvSXcO3Lpt6W2rD 2mzsCqAceCSRGwREgAtMYcqpjX8ZKCNZlk/XGYDU0oJJtPSbmpv7kc/pYj9QjXvleJzC CiZjJ7K34q+nlTbzT8hVc740CVo2MucQe794Kso4WZyg/eU6Y9pmoJfmgREBtkdkXbE8 QMZO+8hVa93969ws8mWeFW4Hlcb94gXwgTmXCav+Fh4HZs4oyZh7SR4XhHA2Qju6C8/N 8cig== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531gW4g9n1kpB6S1wxGGQDWCGFulUqxBXJ7bFvpZFc0q22NpwjOJ D/Ts14+n1u4jaW+dgWIfigMwHJtMsejcIRYnnmU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyC3CUAdS6mEBbLutH2X9hSXBLBYeA0CmcB1SdNRr2qsZolDKtrZvlmrP1Edh3dktf471xo5qPO8Msw42sJW2Y= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6102:2279:: with SMTP id v25mr7652534vsd.22.1642451990471; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 12:39:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87ilui5l7h.fsf@gnus.org> <8335lmw9es.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <8335lmw9es.fsf@gnu.org> From: John Yates Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 15:39:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#53232: close 53232 To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53232 Cc: Po Lu , Lars Ingebrigtsen , 53232@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) I apologize for the tone of my most recent note. My experimenting was flawed. When I hide my init.el I failed to delete init.elc. Once I deleted it my pgtk build performed as expected. I have closed the bug. On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 12:37 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Isn't it true that to have the initial frame appear from the get-go > with some non-default attributes, one must change the X resources? In times past I did indeed establish X-resources. Those are no longer necessary. I do not recall when I ditched them. Perhaps it was around the advent of early-init.el. 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