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Tue, 11 Jan 2022 02:16:24 +0000 Received: by kubenode504.mail-prod1.omega.sg3.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 974ff346c56ef195bb87b2077dbd40d0; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 02:16:18 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 29.0.50; Can't repetitively click next node button inside Info header line Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 10:16:12 +0800 Message-ID: <877db7nhjn.fsf@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain References: <877db7nhjn.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19551 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 3280 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.190.33; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic307-10.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) Starting from emacs -Q, say "C-h i m tramp RET", then click the text that reads "Next: Overview". As long as you don't move the mouse at all, you won't be able to click that button again. Thanks. In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 304, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.30, cairo version 1.17.4) of 2022-01-11 built on trinity Repository revision: c060e374a15b54ce7861896602961330f9aa58c6 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101003 System Description: Fedora Linux 35 (Workstation Edition) Configured using: 'configure --cache-file=/tmp/ccache --with-xinput2 --with-xwidgets' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS WEBP X11 XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM XWIDGETS GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: en_GB.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Info Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t indent-tabs-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. 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As long as you don't move the mouse at > all, you won't be able to click that button again. I guess this is the case when you click the mouse button too fast? 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Tue, 11 Jan 2022 09:41:09 +0000 Received: by kubenode501.mail-prod1.omega.sg3.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 72c576501ba8290e277e4d6640237602; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 09:41:04 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Juri Linkov Subject: Re: bug#53170: 29.0.50; Can't repetitively click next node button inside Info header line References: <877db7nhjn.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <877db7nhjn.fsf@yahoo.com> <86h7aaiqx6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 17:40:55 +0800 In-Reply-To: <86h7aaiqx6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Tue, 11 Jan 2022 11:01:53 +0200") Message-ID: <87h7aamwyg.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.60 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19551 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 383 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53170-done Cc: 53170-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Juri Linkov writes: > I guess this is the case when you click the mouse button too fast? > By default, mouse-1-click-follows-link is 450, and Info-link-keymap > uses such settings: > (define-key keymap [mouse-2] 'Info-mouse-follow-link) > (define-key keymap [follow-link] 'mouse-face) Hmm, that seems to be the case indeed. I'm closing this bug, thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 11 08:26:35 2022 Received: (at 53170) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2022 13:26:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54443 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7HAZ-0003mK-Ce for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 08:26:35 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56768) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7HAV-0003m3-Fl for 53170@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 08:26:34 -0500 Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=46000 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7HAP-0001k3-MN; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 08:26:25 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=yF71kzbeXdPbPeQdWzWc5JrgDsm+PDYaKcMpph5IX7k=; b=QsVlRDEEn9K1 6+F9TrbXtV+lDm2vcjIAxEJik33QBY+X8N1m2y787B36NQJIVvmz7hKVC8FVNkoTScilEtrgjz60j dk07NaQkkRnQt8z0PwsocYyTaUZW0RURPAXIpGOEycQLTxPNgDn2QmJ6qf3EgkCS7Uw79FAoB/a8R Zo5uKN9gKTCzR6TYqpwi125yGeAwqWkVLXQoi/bWeqp2eofcx8vj+74L/KBkm61CiTXUXJCXtTQ9e cmsXnWp+oZ7SiK5BCmQZhChz9Z3VEZILAD/QBFtAxArhuKGHoMapAomT0UbFlWcUkNrznXyeWNrdK hoqF78z4z2+3dW56yEpoiQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2868 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7HAP-00011e-KH; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 08:26:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 15:26:17 +0200 Message-Id: <83y23m769y.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Juri Linkov In-Reply-To: <86h7aaiqx6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Tue, 11 Jan 2022 11:01:53 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#53170: 29.0.50; Can't repetitively click next node button inside Info header line References: <877db7nhjn.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <877db7nhjn.fsf@yahoo.com> <86h7aaiqx6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53170 Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 53170@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Juri Linkov > Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 11:01:53 +0200 > Cc: 53170@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Starting from emacs -Q, say "C-h i m tramp RET", then click the text > > that reads "Next: Overview". As long as you don't move the mouse at > > all, you won't be able to click that button again. > > I guess this is the case when you click the mouse button too fast? > By default, mouse-1-click-follows-link is 450, and Info-link-keymap > uses such settings: > > (define-key keymap [mouse-2] 'Info-mouse-follow-link) > (define-key keymap [follow-link] 'mouse-face) Sorry, I don't understand how these settings explain the issue. AFAIU, the 450 msec is the time one need to _hold_ mouse-1 to make such a long mouse-1 press be considered as meaning "move point here". By contrast, what happens here is that 2 separate mouse-1 clicks, if the time between them is too short, seem to have no effect at all: Emacs neither follows the link nor does anything else. So I suspect that something else is at work here, or maybe the effect of mouse-1-click-follows-link is not documented accurately enough? Can you explain the observed behavior in more detail given the above defaults, please? In particular, how come a feature that's documented to affect only "click and hold" mouse gestures seems to affect double-click? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 11 13:24:42 2022 Received: (at 53170) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2022 18:24:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55513 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7Lp4-0003LD-AY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 13:24:42 -0500 Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.199]:33487) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7Lp1-0003KY-1Q for 53170@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 13:24:40 -0500 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay9-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 21F19FF802; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 18:24:31 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#53170: 29.0.50; Can't repetitively click next node button inside Info header line Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <877db7nhjn.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <877db7nhjn.fsf@yahoo.com> <86h7aaiqx6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83y23m769y.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 20:24:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83y23m769y.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 11 Jan 2022 15:26:17 +0200") Message-ID: <86iluqku65.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53170 Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 53170@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> > Starting from emacs -Q, say "C-h i m tramp RET", then click the text >> > that reads "Next: Overview". As long as you don't move the mouse at >> > all, you won't be able to click that button again. >> >> I guess this is the case when you click the mouse button too fast? >> By default, mouse-1-click-follows-link is 450, and Info-link-keymap >> uses such settings: >> >> (define-key keymap [mouse-2] 'Info-mouse-follow-link) >> (define-key keymap [follow-link] 'mouse-face) > > Sorry, I don't understand how these settings explain the issue. > AFAIU, the 450 msec is the time one need to _hold_ mouse-1 to make > such a long mouse-1 press be considered as meaning "move point here". > By contrast, what happens here is that 2 separate mouse-1 clicks, if > the time between them is too short, seem to have no effect at all: > Emacs neither follows the link nor does anything else. > > So I suspect that something else is at work here, or maybe the effect > of mouse-1-click-follows-link is not documented accurately enough? > > Can you explain the observed behavior in more detail given the above > defaults, please? In particular, how come a feature that's > documented to affect only "click and hold" mouse gestures seems to > affect double-click? The second click selects the word. Could you arrange the Info dir buffer such that clicking on a menu item opens another Info node, where the second quickly pressed mouse button is on another menu? Then you will see the effect. It selects the word on the menu item, instead of navigating to the node under the menu item. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 11 13:55:57 2022 Received: (at 53170) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2022 18:55:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55551 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7MJI-0004qt-IT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 13:55:56 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59908) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7MJC-0004qJ-6I for 53170@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 13:55:55 -0500 Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=56008 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7MJ6-0007tM-7X; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 13:55:44 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=F7rUD/aDSL1duPd+64LMoHj/GusOl6G46P5Dg86kbLI=; b=qY/DaFXrn9wb WRYBe3/C8xqZBqV2zuYOasoLuK8vflPxzBqKP26x7q8nJhqCcrHd2/fdaS9LTX6UoTM8t6Si6NqBy QO51TxRTDDTT5dGCd5MgHVlyqRPwZed8ocgyxlirGqzT/yFg9r5iUMwJAr5hMLoHSGic/d2yMQk4J Sj/vB+gyicsR/dxAwxVXRoFok5H27VLk9GnjwYLLGcPDGzy3gOBSWnTt72aPijQkQ3pmwfoOPAxUU Sh4IWms7UwA/5+1JNA2RT7JbHwFE0Wn02lcmsq4iC/OMOudVLCZSK22ptYzCppa5FfL81vMocJoq5 upaXLl85mjW70c/2OwHHdQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3484 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7MJ1-0001ik-2V; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 13:55:44 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 20:55:29 +0200 Message-Id: <83fspu6r1a.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Juri Linkov In-Reply-To: <86iluqku65.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Tue, 11 Jan 2022 20:24:02 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#53170: 29.0.50; Can't repetitively click next node button inside Info header line References: <877db7nhjn.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <877db7nhjn.fsf@yahoo.com> <86h7aaiqx6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83y23m769y.fsf@gnu.org> <86iluqku65.fsf@mail.linkov.net> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53170 Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 53170@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Juri Linkov > Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 53170@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 20:24:02 +0200 > > >> (define-key keymap [mouse-2] 'Info-mouse-follow-link) > >> (define-key keymap [follow-link] 'mouse-face) > > > > Sorry, I don't understand how these settings explain the issue. > > AFAIU, the 450 msec is the time one need to _hold_ mouse-1 to make > > such a long mouse-1 press be considered as meaning "move point here". > > By contrast, what happens here is that 2 separate mouse-1 clicks, if > > the time between them is too short, seem to have no effect at all: > > Emacs neither follows the link nor does anything else. > > > > So I suspect that something else is at work here, or maybe the effect > > of mouse-1-click-follows-link is not documented accurately enough? > > > > Can you explain the observed behavior in more detail given the above > > defaults, please? In particular, how come a feature that's > > documented to affect only "click and hold" mouse gestures seems to > > affect double-click? > > The second click selects the word. Why is it useful to select the word on the header line? It doesn't do anything useful, AFAICT. > Could you arrange the Info dir buffer such that clicking on a menu > item opens another Info node, where the second quickly pressed mouse > button is on another menu? Then you will see the effect. It > selects the word on the menu item, instead of navigating to the node > under the menu item. Which means that the documentation of mouse-1-click-follows-link is completely off target, because it says nothing about its effect on double-click! This is yet another bad UI change, whereby seemingly insignificant random factors in what the user does cause very significant changes in behavior. In general, this should be unacceptable from the UX POV. While it could be tolerated when the user needs to press a mouse button continuously for almost 0.5 sec to have the "unusual" effect, it is IMO completely unacceptable when a quick double-click sometimes is processed as two single clicks, and causes Emacs to do nothing if the time interval is short enough. I think we should undo this "feature", at least in Info. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 11 14:16:42 2022 Received: (at 53170) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2022 19:16:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55596 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7MdO-0005uJ-Hp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 14:16:42 -0500 Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.194]:55257) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7MdM-0005tu-Ug for 53170@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 14:16:41 -0500 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D3FAB40006; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 19:16:33 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#53170: 29.0.50; Can't repetitively click next node button inside Info header line Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <877db7nhjn.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <877db7nhjn.fsf@yahoo.com> <86h7aaiqx6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83y23m769y.fsf@gnu.org> <86iluqku65.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83fspu6r1a.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 21:12:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83fspu6r1a.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 11 Jan 2022 20:55:29 +0200") Message-ID: <86bl0ijdcd.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53170 Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 53170@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> The second click selects the word. > > Why is it useful to select the word on the header line? Sorry, I missed that this report is about the header line, I thought it's about breadcrumbs. Then these bindings are interfering: (define-key keymap [header-line down-mouse-1] 'mouse-drag-header-line) (define-key keymap [header-line mouse-1] 'mouse-select-window) The problem can be fixed by replacing these lines with: (define-key keymap [header-line mouse-1] 'Info-mouse-follow-link) But I don't know how important is the feature of selecting/dragging the header-line? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 11 15:03:25 2022 Received: (at 53170) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2022 20:03:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55671 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7NMb-00084O-0s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 15:03:25 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46070) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7NMW-000840-EC for 53170@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 15:03:24 -0500 Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=57600 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7NMQ-0001JW-Jj; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 15:03:14 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=XZJLOx9e8ZOVJam14jXc7b7xZvrAb9XzQfcemldvaM0=; b=q9vU6Kr4jJus nyCu5ZACPhKhz+7icIn9EJZPSE6M/JR9U0TegtGd53Kv0bHGXVTbxBOVmJyPbfhVgvxhEKTSQS+Li xRLEQ2WideI+9cnb01ENXhzmF75yxFzmn3QHtrO8UrtUAmr+ZK5GA+JZ55shsPWZn560GGd1iYSn1 s5ebtNG25IhVjbb9em98QIWrTxU4K7PkBo0XVouw5swepbYEGJ9V1zOUmp8dl+wieniXgwoWBUwZZ bTKNrSKc+Q7+i857W7iWUmKJW6Z40XHEHmJ6f9ZbVAXrA2o0f8VkXNl4ebWLY5thypQo465Pp4Van EH9WZT6Uk1LD7hQSbSsMyw==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3624 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7NMQ-0003dU-KK; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 15:03:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 22:03:07 +0200 Message-Id: <83ee5e6nwk.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Juri Linkov In-Reply-To: <86bl0ijdcd.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Tue, 11 Jan 2022 21:12:50 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#53170: 29.0.50; Can't repetitively click next node button inside Info header line References: <877db7nhjn.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <877db7nhjn.fsf@yahoo.com> <86h7aaiqx6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83y23m769y.fsf@gnu.org> <86iluqku65.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83fspu6r1a.fsf@gnu.org> <86bl0ijdcd.fsf@mail.linkov.net> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53170 Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 53170@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Juri Linkov > Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 53170@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 21:12:50 +0200 > > >> The second click selects the word. > > > > Why is it useful to select the word on the header line? > > Sorry, I missed that this report is about the header line, > I thought it's about breadcrumbs. > > Then these bindings are interfering: > > (define-key keymap [header-line down-mouse-1] 'mouse-drag-header-line) > (define-key keymap [header-line mouse-1] 'mouse-select-window) > > The problem can be fixed by replacing these lines with: > > (define-key keymap [header-line mouse-1] 'Info-mouse-follow-link) > > But I don't know how important is the feature of selecting/dragging the header-line? I don't think I understand how 2 clicks one after another are taken as a drag-mouse event. Can you tell why this happens? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 12 12:27:26 2022 Received: (at 53170) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2022 17:27:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58920 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7hPC-0008Es-0j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 12:27:26 -0500 Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.199]:56545) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7hPA-0008EM-CJ for 53170@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 12:27:24 -0500 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay9-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 55DF2FF806; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 17:27:16 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#53170: 29.0.50; Can't repetitively click next node button inside Info header line Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <877db7nhjn.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <877db7nhjn.fsf@yahoo.com> <86h7aaiqx6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83y23m769y.fsf@gnu.org> <86iluqku65.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83fspu6r1a.fsf@gnu.org> <86bl0ijdcd.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83ee5e6nwk.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 19:20:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83ee5e6nwk.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 11 Jan 2022 22:03:07 +0200") Message-ID: <865yqpsznj.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53170 Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 53170@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> Then these bindings are interfering: >> >> (define-key keymap [header-line down-mouse-1] 'mouse-drag-header-line) >> (define-key keymap [header-line mouse-1] 'mouse-select-window) >> >> The problem can be fixed by replacing these lines with: >> >> (define-key keymap [header-line mouse-1] 'Info-mouse-follow-link) >> >> But I don't know how important is the feature of selecting/dragging the header-line? > > I don't think I understand how 2 clicks one after another are taken as > a drag-mouse event. Can you tell why this happens? Actually, its's mouse-select-window that steals the click. There is no need to bind mouse-1 to mouse-select-window because the window is selected anyway, so this patch fixes the reported problem: diff --git a/lisp/info.el b/lisp/info.el index f4f0f9790c..bb8cd0d312 100644 --- a/lisp/info.el +++ b/lisp/info.el @@ -4693,7 +4693,7 @@ Info-goto-emacs-key-command-node (defvar Info-link-keymap (let ((keymap (make-sparse-keymap))) (define-key keymap [header-line down-mouse-1] 'mouse-drag-header-line) - (define-key keymap [header-line mouse-1] 'mouse-select-window) + (define-key keymap [header-line mouse-1] 'Info-mouse-follow-link) (define-key keymap [header-line mouse-2] 'Info-mouse-follow-link) (define-key keymap [mouse-2] 'Info-mouse-follow-link) (define-key keymap [follow-link] 'mouse-face) -- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 12 12:30:08 2022 Received: (at 53170) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2022 17:30:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58932 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7hRn-0008NF-Kp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 12:30:08 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54058) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7hRl-0008JX-Ou for 53170@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 12:30:06 -0500 Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=52340 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7hRg-0008F9-5d; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 12:30:00 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=o7Ykg478uy+7pNFua7Wtlc7sOAMzFGXW+j6uerqx6fc=; b=r9M4FCjov8i3 jjuRcERRl2e5YrhLmyOdrCApLd4Zz13XUSP6N8lXR2IK63xAtzFXUoQDQALQPd9rKkaGpcMUsFX7R 1ykyvaykGzh3Vzu+BbMkH5DXPLMViA1h9q+OAoR6hro4COhqd3WVh52tzWVlf6oalv+/z0itvhcni 2P7T3rark8wqWonYr74WQyOc0PGhSV2S5JXWQhPipOPfaM/raX+IIOfYqkLOwhC4ccV66mc9+Zrf3 5CzYNZmlIu3eDmpFZMVX3ArnUGmtnYppEVEmGMBV988CQJlnXImy8yanv96KDMxpC01z7nAUCyVLA SjV2nDJUjxaUvp1T0Dp+tQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3188 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7hRf-0006xr-J0; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 12:30:00 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 19:29:54 +0200 Message-Id: <83a6g06ewd.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Juri Linkov In-Reply-To: <865yqpsznj.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Wed, 12 Jan 2022 19:20:40 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#53170: 29.0.50; Can't repetitively click next node button inside Info header line References: <877db7nhjn.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <877db7nhjn.fsf@yahoo.com> <86h7aaiqx6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83y23m769y.fsf@gnu.org> <86iluqku65.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83fspu6r1a.fsf@gnu.org> <86bl0ijdcd.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83ee5e6nwk.fsf@gnu.org> <865yqpsznj.fsf@mail.linkov.net> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53170 Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 53170@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Juri Linkov > Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 53170@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 19:20:40 +0200 > > >> But I don't know how important is the feature of selecting/dragging the header-line? > > > > I don't think I understand how 2 clicks one after another are taken as > > a drag-mouse event. Can you tell why this happens? > > Actually, its's mouse-select-window that steals the click. > There is no need to bind mouse-1 to mouse-select-window > because the window is selected anyway, so this patch fixes > the reported problem: Thanks, this LGTM. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 24 13:57:14 2022 Received: (at 53170) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2022 18:57:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45864 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC4Wg-00076R-7P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 13:57:14 -0500 Received: from relay10.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.230]:51913) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC4We-00076C-7x for 53170@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 13:57:12 -0500 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B89EC24000D; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 18:57:02 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#53170: 29.0.50; Can't repetitively click next node button inside Info header line Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <877db7nhjn.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <877db7nhjn.fsf@yahoo.com> <86h7aaiqx6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83y23m769y.fsf@gnu.org> <86iluqku65.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83fspu6r1a.fsf@gnu.org> <86bl0ijdcd.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83ee5e6nwk.fsf@gnu.org> <865yqpsznj.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83a6g06ewd.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 20:56:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83a6g06ewd.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 12 Jan 2022 19:29:54 +0200") Message-ID: <86lez5ynbr.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53170 Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 53170@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> >> But I don't know how important is the feature of selecting/dragging the header-line? >> > >> > I don't think I understand how 2 clicks one after another are taken as >> > a drag-mouse event. Can you tell why this happens? >> >> Actually, its's mouse-select-window that steals the click. >> There is no need to bind mouse-1 to mouse-select-window >> because the window is selected anyway, so this patch fixes >> the reported problem: > > Thanks, this LGTM. So now pushed to master. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:32:16 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:24:08 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator