From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 07 04:08:48 2022 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2022 09:08:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43032 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n5lEt-0003Fy-Mv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 04:08:48 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:42946) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n5lEr-0003Fj-A2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 04:08:46 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47716) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n5lEr-0002oW-5q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 04:08:45 -0500 Received: from andalucia.tim-landscheidt.de ([116.203.78.250]:34938) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n5lEp-0001NY-0t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 04:08:44 -0500 Received: from p5b0dcaa0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([91.13.202.160]:56755 helo=vagabond) by andalucia.tim-landscheidt.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1n5lEf-0004PQ-Bx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 09:08:34 +0000 From: Tim Landscheidt To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 27.2; Message "Server closed connection" not verbose enough Organization: http://www.tim-landscheidt.de/ User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) X-Debbugs-Package: emacs,gnus Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2022 09:08:28 +0000 Message-ID: <87o84nhq0j.fsf@vagabond.tim-landscheidt.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.203.78.250; envelope-from=tim@tim-landscheidt.de; helo=andalucia.tim-landscheidt.de X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) I have a number of IMAP, POP3 and NNTP servers configured. When everything is fine, gnus-group-get-new-news will output the messages: | Checking new news... | Reading active file from private via nnml... | Reading incoming mail from pop... [3 times] | Reading incoming mail from file... | nnml: Reading incoming mail (no new mail)...done | Reading active file from private via nnml...done | Reading active file from archive via nnfolder...done | Reading active file via nndraft...done | Checking new news...done >From time to time, there will be a hiccup somewhere, and the messages instead will read: | Checking new news... | Opening connection to imap.gmail.com via tls... | Opening connection to imap.gmail.com...done | Reading active file from private via nnml... | Reading incoming mail from pop... | pop3 retrieved 0KB (0%) [14 times] | pop3 retrieved 16KB (17%) [10 times] | pop3 retrieved 32KB (35%) [20 times] | pop3 retrieved 49KB (53%) [10 times] | pop3 retrieved 65KB (71%) [10 times] | pop3 retrieved 81KB (89%) [8 times] | pop3 retrieved 91KB (100%) | Wrote /path/to/nnml/file | Reading incoming mail from pop... [2 times] | Reading incoming mail from file... | nnml: Reading incoming mail (1 new)...done | Reading active file from private via nnml...done | Reading active file from archive via nnfolder...done | apply: Server closed connection Now "Server closed connection" is an error message defined for IMAP /and/ NNTP servers, and I have configured more than one NNTP server as well. So I had to set nntp-record-commands to t and look in *nntp-log*'s: | 20220106T154438.490 news.gmane.io MODE READER | 20220106T154508.531 news.gmane.io *** CONNECTION LOST *** | 20220106T154511.955 news.gmane.io MODE READER | 20220106T154541.984 news.gmane.io *** CALLED nntp-report *** to /assume/ that the error occurs while Gnus is trying to talk to news.gmane.io. It would be more helpful if the error message read "Server news.gmane.io closed connection" or, to avoid any ambiguity, "NNTP server news.gmane.io closed connection". (Side note: If such a hiccup happens, it sometimes appears that the *Group* buffer is not updated with regard to number of unread messages per group, etc. for /other/ servers that were successfully contacted. I don't know if Gnus is more aggressive than it needs to be here; if it encounters an er- ror when trying to contact a POP3 server, it will just ask nicely and continue on.) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 07 04:35:25 2022 Received: (at 53070) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2022 09:35:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43072 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n5lef-00047J-0O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 04:35:25 -0500 Received: from mail-wr1-f54.google.com ([209.85.221.54]:36775) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n5leb-000470-LR for 53070@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 04:35:23 -0500 Received: by mail-wr1-f54.google.com with SMTP id r10so2262442wrc.3 for <53070@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 01:35:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AoU2ezlgDQHe+ISB4azAWNTzMbd0PGTGs/dk1OrYrIA=; b=G6ZdWIULzkMsfYldFL/mOr1xt0mggYFU/+QMHm0qU10LWMo7qbwF5LuKDIg6NGtOat GhxpIZp7pMDsBcL5Zz9WDg/ma7VhEeJhcQHYosAEHRNlRt+L4XyAj3e9KkmApAzr8Qgy fFx7Jr995ZVDLDF675tn/NJARWiqB0j7jVe2fajKOJuQhi6WMDJMnvv3IxWP6eQJy4I3 u5OP5aC1McMzqt3+XPQvg9Ni5Y0r4ABdrUgFHYVLU5PMCr0INUAkEooT3QLFVKq2FRJ6 y3VzfMEV2QmBIrAx8AMe3QAGZx0lt3VXt8IIr6pivs6RjrX7UXY39bmadNpVK3Cnqh3j csfw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AoU2ezlgDQHe+ISB4azAWNTzMbd0PGTGs/dk1OrYrIA=; b=4FXBdSj4YV7j2Zvq9USgiNW5FenmCHFEhyEoF4YPsIZ0Tt54gL9HXEkoGSrUO/6PMn hpjNlpFsim+Rz7I5UyFWj+MVgVMqBx6jDuhx4L0PGIlnfGtLZc93r+ihckhODjIilrwe 4QmhHVptTMr/DQqIkJCHgx2mzMckSIr1u+gk6Jxxxp8c5eImODuUnJu0b/RaUu7JDq0p JV6nDTkb0NMSO3JtqS7wXDANQfjDeLqZ9ihGVzzO6hb2XLiEuDZngZzkMfVbz70JuwVx gdEWumKDgzdf/j29RfNsg+KLrgpPy6s3otLSi2Vc76E5aqjBy7ap+aiB14YlOm8LDPCc Ya0A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533iaVYecjxoVEP6F8NK8YJAkqB/FxRtxyME/3vVCGRL7dzNZm1t KRDeNlfK5WuIsk25RkrkIf83Dncaa2M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzF6+nT2VEFqgWSrPwARKGa7j9EemZexACQNhef5h5MY/f9IPBAfdzqqq6/hHn8ICwNe464ZA== X-Received: by 2002:adf:e485:: with SMTP id i5mr4096365wrm.705.1641548115445; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 01:35:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from rltb ([2a01:e0a:3f3:fb50:24e:3978:3b03:ee76]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n14sm4530417wrf.107.2022.01.07.01.35.14 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 07 Jan 2022 01:35:14 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Pluim To: Tim Landscheidt Subject: Re: bug#53070: 27.2; Message "Server closed connection" not verbose enough References: <87o84nhq0j.fsf@vagabond.tim-landscheidt.de> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2022 10:35:14 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87o84nhq0j.fsf@vagabond.tim-landscheidt.de> (Tim Landscheidt's message of "Fri, 07 Jan 2022 09:08:28 +0000") Message-ID: <87iluv7ust.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53070 Cc: 53070@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 09:08:28 +0000, Tim Landscheidt said: Tim> Now "Server closed connection" is an error message defined Tim> for IMAP /and/ NNTP servers, and I have configured more than Tim> one NNTP server as well. So I had to set Tim> nntp-record-commands to t and look in *nntp-log*'s: Someone hasn't applied "Robert's rules for debuggability", which state: "All log messages must be unique" :-) Tim> | 20220106T154438.490 news.gmane.io MODE READER Tim> | 20220106T154508.531 news.gmane.io *** CONNECTION LOST *** Tim> | 20220106T154511.955 news.gmane.io MODE READER Tim> | 20220106T154541.984 news.gmane.io *** CALLED nntp-report *** Tim> to /assume/ that the error occurs while Gnus is trying to Tim> talk to news.gmane.io. Untested patch below. Tim> It would be more helpful if the error message read "Server Tim> news.gmane.io closed connection" or, to avoid any ambiguity, Tim> "NNTP server news.gmane.io closed connection". Tim> (Side note: If such a hiccup happens, it sometimes appears Tim> that the *Group* buffer is not updated with regard to number Tim> of unread messages per group, etc. for /other/ servers that Tim> were successfully contacted. I don't know if Gnus is more Tim> aggressive than it needs to be here; if it encounters an er- Tim> ror when trying to contact a POP3 server, it will just ask Tim> nicely and continue on.) That=CA=BCs a separate issue. My connections are reliable enough that I don=CA=BCt see this. diff --git i/lisp/gnus/nnimap.el w/lisp/gnus/nnimap.el index fd6e3c0ccf..710b08b9da 100644 --- i/lisp/gnus/nnimap.el +++ w/lisp/gnus/nnimap.el @@ -245,7 +245,7 @@ nnimap-retrieve-headers (nnimap-header-parameters)) t) (unless (process-live-p (get-buffer-process (current-buffer))) - (error "Server closed connection")) + (error "IMAP server %S closed connection" nnimap-address)) (nnimap-transform-headers) (nnheader-remove-cr-followed-by-lf)) (insert-buffer-substring diff --git i/lisp/gnus/nntp.el w/lisp/gnus/nntp.el index 038a6d0625..df4c0068e3 100644 --- i/lisp/gnus/nntp.el +++ w/lisp/gnus/nntp.el @@ -305,7 +305,7 @@ nntp-send-string (nntp-record-command string)) (process-send-string process (concat string nntp-end-of-line)) (or (memq (process-status process) '(open run)) - (nntp-report "Server closed connection"))) + (nntp-report "NNTP server %S closed connection" nntp-address))) =20 (defun nntp-record-command (string) "Record the command STRING." @@ -370,7 +370,7 @@ nntp-wait-for (nntp-snarf-error-message) nil)) ((not (memq (process-status process) '(open run))) - (nntp-report "Server closed connection")) + (nntp-report "NNTP server %S closed connection" nntp-address)) (t (goto-char (point-max)) (let ((limit (point-min)) @@ -1435,7 +1435,7 @@ nntp-accept-process-output ;; be the process's former output buffer (i.e. now killed) (or (and process (memq (process-status process) '(open run))) - (nntp-report "Server closed connection"))))) + (nntp-report "NNTP server %S closed connection" nntp-address))))) =20 (defun nntp-accept-response () "Wait for output from the process that outputs to BUFFER." @@ -1454,7 +1454,7 @@ nntp-possibly-change-group (when group (let ((entry (nntp-find-connection-entry nntp-server-buffer))) (cond ((not entry) - (nntp-report "Server closed connection")) + (nntp-report "NNTP server %S closed connection" nntp-address)) ((not (equal group (caddr entry))) (with-current-buffer (process-buffer (car entry)) (erase-buffer) Robert --=20 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 07 11:13:52 2022 Received: (at 53070) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2022 16:13:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45755 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n5rsG-0001wh-L7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 11:13:52 -0500 Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:51220) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n5rsF-0001wV-Cz for 53070@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 11:13:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-71-197-232-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.232.41]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 91D0110117B; Fri, 7 Jan 2022 16:13:44 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1641572024; bh=Hqq+3+YDuRLF5IKrSZg6J3C2981+/wLu95RPiQEz2BA=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=ZOW/WTbqu9D6jO3zSWAl6Bogdz8FDOZWjSNGqtHvQbwWSST5rukyyE/OqY13BLBAG uNsgcVRPw8j9syTCh7shK3eKTR7nftuAlvTxRqFKmyfGy8LXCkTyPgyJrxh9VxxcGh FqvrbDd7ckfH7pwAPPWyvJtPyGiWy11hK1d+fRHU= From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Tim Landscheidt Subject: Re: bug#53070: 27.2; Message "Server closed connection" not verbose enough References: <87o84nhq0j.fsf@vagabond.tim-landscheidt.de> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2022 08:13:42 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87o84nhq0j.fsf@vagabond.tim-landscheidt.de> (Tim Landscheidt's message of "Fri, 07 Jan 2022 09:08:28 +0000") Message-ID: <87fspza5hl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53070 Cc: 53070@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Tim Landscheidt writes: [...] > It would be more helpful if the error message read "Server > news.gmane.io closed connection" or, to avoid any ambiguity, > "NNTP server news.gmane.io closed connection". Thank you for reporting this, and I think Robert's patch would be very welcome. > (Side note: If such a hiccup happens, it sometimes appears > that the *Group* buffer is not updated with regard to number > of unread messages per group, etc. for /other/ servers that > were successfully contacted. I don't know if Gnus is more > aggressive than it needs to be here; if it encounters an er- > ror when trying to contact a POP3 server, it will just ask > nicely and continue on.) How recent is your Emacs? In 032969e8 (end of October) I put in a patch which switched NNTP failures from raising an error -- which interrupted the whole update process -- to simply reporting the failure. What you describe sounds like the behavior I'd observed before making that change. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 07 17:12:12 2022 Received: (at 53070) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2022 22:12:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46017 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n5xT2-0005yc-Gn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 17:12:12 -0500 Received: from andalucia.tim-landscheidt.de ([116.203.78.250]:37942) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n5xT1-0005yU-MR for 53070@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 17:12:12 -0500 Received: from dslb-002-207-123-127.002.207.pools.vodafone-ip.de ([2.207.123.127]:45186 helo=vagabond) by andalucia.tim-landscheidt.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1n5xSz-0005lZ-V6; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 22:12:10 +0000 From: Tim Landscheidt To: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: bug#53070: 27.2; Message "Server closed connection" not verbose enough Organization: http://www.tim-landscheidt.de/ References: <87o84nhq0j.fsf@vagabond.tim-landscheidt.de> <87fspza5hl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2022 22:12:09 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87fspza5hl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Fri, 07 Jan 2022 08:13:42 -0800") Message-ID: <877dbbkxfq.fsf@vagabond.tim-landscheidt.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53070 Cc: 53070@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > [=E2=80=A6] >> (Side note: If such a hiccup happens, it sometimes appears >> that the *Group* buffer is not updated with regard to number >> of unread messages per group, etc. for /other/ servers that >> were successfully contacted. I don't know if Gnus is more >> aggressive than it needs to be here; if it encounters an er- >> ror when trying to contact a POP3 server, it will just ask >> nicely and continue on.) > How recent is your Emacs? In 032969e8 (end of October) I put in a patch > which switched NNTP failures from raising an error -- which interrupted > the whole update process -- to simply reporting the failure. What you > describe sounds like the behavior I'd observed before making that > change. 27.2; I agree with your reasoning and look forward to your patch trickling down to Fedora :-). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 07 17:41:26 2022 Received: (at 53070) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2022 22:41:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46036 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n5xvK-0006ne-Mu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 17:41:26 -0500 Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:58600) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n5xvG-0006nL-8T for 53070@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 17:41:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-71-197-232-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.232.41]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8DFC5FA08D; Fri, 7 Jan 2022 22:41:14 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1641595274; bh=yaQWoIRGFUkFH8cr9qSwXJiz2t4cjBUjrQnRo6ZRDIY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=cbAsT+TjkX6YN2KYV0/KkpEnQE9poR2kTvrrsoHGUZ1XuQffS3ZNfbbQbSzuZDo6q OsmIoH6xhV1U4e8XqL1MAy1LYgKZ02dJpo1whjdzou4o7X5T/m8zIgIhozfB+c9d/l ArgnUq0WAwNETRkwLCogo6Hsv2SXr1nx6Wz/rCDw= From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Tim Landscheidt Subject: Re: bug#53070: 27.2; Message "Server closed connection" not verbose enough References: <87o84nhq0j.fsf@vagabond.tim-landscheidt.de> <87fspza5hl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877dbbkxfq.fsf@vagabond.tim-landscheidt.de> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2022 14:41:13 -0800 In-Reply-To: <877dbbkxfq.fsf@vagabond.tim-landscheidt.de> (Tim Landscheidt's message of "Fri, 07 Jan 2022 22:12:09 +0000") Message-ID: <87sftz88za.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53070 Cc: 53070@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Tim Landscheidt writes: > Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > >> [=E2=80=A6] > >>> (Side note: If such a hiccup happens, it sometimes appears >>> that the *Group* buffer is not updated with regard to number >>> of unread messages per group, etc. for /other/ servers that >>> were successfully contacted. I don't know if Gnus is more >>> aggressive than it needs to be here; if it encounters an er- >>> ror when trying to contact a POP3 server, it will just ask >>> nicely and continue on.) > >> How recent is your Emacs? In 032969e8 (end of October) I put in a patch >> which switched NNTP failures from raising an error -- which interrupted >> the whole update process -- to simply reporting the failure. What you >> describe sounds like the behavior I'd observed before making that >> change. > > 27.2; I agree with your reasoning and look forward to your > patch trickling down to Fedora :-). Ouch! Well, it will get to you eventually. 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