From unknown Sun Aug 10 10:55:06 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#5304 <5304@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#5304 <5304@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Subject: 23.1.91; comment-start in fundamental-mode Reply-To: bug#5304 <5304@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2025 17:55:06 +0000 retitle 5304 Subject: 23.1.91; comment-start in fundamental-mode reassign 5304 emacs submitter 5304 Andreas Roehler severity 5304 minor tag 5304 notabug wontfix thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 05 09:08:36 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jan 2010 14:08:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NSA5L-0003gh-UP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:08:36 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NRWlY-0001QM-H0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 15:09:34 -0500 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:36006) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NRWlU-0006xu-AM for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 15:09:28 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NRWlQ-0001UV-9W for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 15:09:27 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on monty-python X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.171]:61259) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NRWlP-0001U3-QK for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 15:09:24 -0500 Received: from [192.168.178.27] (p54BE9A80.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.190.154.128]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MFOim-1NfmMe00Tk-00EVTn; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 21:09:20 +0100 Message-ID: <4B40F98E.6040309@online.de> Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 21:09:50 +0100 From: Andreas Roehler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20081227) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Subject: Subject: 23.1.91; comment-start in fundamental-mode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/Bl8WbCw8Hwoy8IkmYMZtFxUhY6av3pTL1UCS P7a+gAdO1t1bHXzr6c3lobdv6VHz4es/QBdOW6OZ20YM60JDPT KWcOXW4P0U8qA8WCGGF/4SeCO+I0vdIs++PeYZL0Rs= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:08:26 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) Hi, after emacs -q `comment-start' is available in fundamental mode as a global variable. Once set, it retains its value for other buffers. IMO `comment-start' should not exist in fundamental mode, also it should be buffer local from the very beginning. Below a recipe to reproduce the bug: emacs -q scratch-buffer M-x fundamental-mode \C-h v comment-start ==> comment-start is a variable defined in `newcomment.el'. Its value is nil This variable is safe as a file local variable if its value satisfies the predicate `string-or-null-p'. Documentation: *String to insert to start a new comment, or nil if no comment syntax. ;;;;;;;;;;;; (setq comment-start "abc") \C-h v comment-start ==> comment-start is a variable defined in `newcomment.el'. Its value is "abc" ... ;;;;;;;;;;;;; Now kill buffer, ask again: same result. `comment-start' is remembered throughout buffers as "abc". So far, thanks all Andreas BTW emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org still active, think it should be deactivated(?) -- https://code.launchpad.net/s-x-emacs-werkstatt/ ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; In GNU Emacs 23.1.91.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.0) of 2010-01-01 Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.70200000 Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=local locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: C-h v c o m m e n t - s r t a r t M-x f u n d a m e n t a l - m o C-h v M-x r e p o r t - e m a c s - b u Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Type C-x 1 to delete the help window. Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr message sendmail regexp-opt ecomplete rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mailcap mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 qp ietf-drums mailabbrev nnheader gnus-util netrc time-date mm-util mail-prsvr gmm-utils wid-edit mailheader canlock sha1 hex-util hashcash mail-utils emacsbug pp find-func help-mode easymenu view help-fns tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel x-win x-dnd font-setting tool-bar dnd fontset image fringe lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mldrag mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev loaddefs button minibuffer faces cus-face files text-properties overlay md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind system-font-setting font-render-setting gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 05 10:01:20 2010 Received: (at 5304) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jan 2010 15:01:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NSAuO-0004dT-28 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2010 10:01:20 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NSAuK-0004dM-L2 for 5304@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2010 10:01:18 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjwFADbjQkvO+KPG/2dsb2JhbACBRdIVhDAEiik X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,506,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="52998823" Received: from 206-248-163-198.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([206.248.163.198]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 05 Jan 2010 10:01:11 -0500 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 0E365B4077; Tue, 5 Jan 2010 10:01:11 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Andreas Roehler Subject: Re: bug#5304: Subject: 23.1.91; comment-start in fundamental-mode Message-ID: References: <4B40F98E.6040309@online.de> Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 10:01:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4B40F98E.6040309@online.de> (Andreas Roehler's message of "Sun, 03 Jan 2010 21:09:50 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5304 Cc: 5304@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > (setq comment-start "abc") If you want to set it buffer-locally, then set it buffer-locally: (set (make-local-variable 'comment-start) "abc") Same goes for most other variables. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 06 04:02:58 2010 Received: (at 5304) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jan 2010 09:02:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NSRn7-0007Sr-SE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jan 2010 04:02:58 -0500 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.186]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NSRn5-0007Sk-4X for 5304@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jan 2010 04:02:56 -0500 Received: from [192.168.178.27] (p54BE8E6B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.190.142.107]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LaHYA-1OCHSA0tSA-00lwrQ; Wed, 06 Jan 2010 10:02:49 +0100 Message-ID: <4B4451DF.1070900@online.de> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 10:03:27 +0100 From: Andreas Roehler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20081227) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 5304@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#5304: Subject: 23.1.91; comment-start in fundamental-mode References: <4B40F98E.6040309@online.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+nTupSgxOmaUZRzRERUMjFdWpvEzEZcBr6bwU y2AU0WstCkGiEJrIEfZ/9vAIBuz/gOTgiH0V8THrhZja4Nklkd MbbOzOenc6N6962qqMZGBVbKBW3x5Uih7ohHXA6/Vk= X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5304 Cc: Stefan Monnier X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.9 (---) Stefan Monnier wrote: >> (setq comment-start "abc") > > If you want to set it buffer-locally, then set it buffer-locally: > > (set (make-local-variable 'comment-start) "abc") > > Same goes for most other variables. > > > Stefan > Stumbled over the issue from my line-or-region commenting tool - with prefix `ar-' now BTW at https://code.launchpad.net/s-x-emacs-werkstatt/ lisp-mode.el contains this (make-local-variable 'comment-start) (setq comment-start ";") Think that's the right place: it's more straight IMHO let modes introduce this var. Maybe just delete it from c-sources? Unless I'm missing something... :-) Thanks Andreas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 07 16:46:24 2010 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2010 21:46:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NT0BU-0002Kc-9Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:46:24 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NT0BR-0002KT-Fx for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:46:22 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NT0BN-0007Nk-Fp; Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:46:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19270.22057.471140.62769@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 16:46:17 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: control Subject: control X-Attribution: GM X-Mailer: VM (www.wonderworks.com/vm), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs) X-Hue: black X-Ran: 6FkqiEb_n:'MzWdv:@VuHO?)|TFAlr]M(}~|1S[^}^5eyTDOm)C5S%DhvfG/'xcuv@&m>g X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) tags 5272 moreinfo tags 5279 patch severity 5282 minor reassign 5284 emacs,gnus severity 5304 minor tags 5304 wontfix notabug tags 5310 patch severity 5327 minor reassign 5330 emacs,ns reassign 5331 emacs,ns reassign 5333 emacs,ns From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 03 15:03:03 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jul 2011 19:03:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdRwd-00050o-68 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 15:03:03 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdRwb-00050M-Hk for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 15:03:01 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QdRwQ-00059X-EV for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 21:02:50 +0200 Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 21:02:49 +0200 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #5304 X-MailScanner-ID: 1QdRwQ-00059X-EV X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1310324570.72528@rru5naj4Zoz+7JAbjxbiJg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) close 5304 From unknown Sun Aug 10 10:55:06 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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