From unknown Tue Sep 23 10:39:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#53004: NonGNU ELPA: paredit only available in -devel archive Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2022 14:11:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 53004 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 53004@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.16413054268194 (code B ref -1); Tue, 04 Jan 2022 14:11:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jan 2022 14:10:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37163 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n4kWA-000286-5p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 09:10:26 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:37678) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n4kW7-00027x-NL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 09:10:24 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37898) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4kW7-0002vn-IE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 09:10:23 -0500 Received: from mail-pj1-f48.google.com ([209.85.216.48]:38885) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4kVw-0000Wa-Hn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 09:10:21 -0500 Received: by mail-pj1-f48.google.com with SMTP id l10-20020a17090a384a00b001b22190e075so35776134pjf.3 for ; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 06:10:07 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Rg9no+dn/UefzmGyoGAPg8LoBRYzOO8qrAeTYxQtSGo=; b=PXZyQan0u1yTTkUAKUPqiATn4Gm+BwBzVGn55NSp9pHBVWHDHydbvCaNOfaDCOFjyx ze304HTyNRAlk4t07WsyOdQquxh0hEjXYG/UJM+VDkwM3qgxIu1n2PTOTYsiume3pXpq /FySQ3s4wvlXV48PNbwY4J+j/9+Gobc2vmSWDzFGmjZ6Iix1iVGQLYKkqdsRP4gIRNgy u7MaO0sOK9W7Xnpu7sTDB251tPNQj6FeuYXCJqVnImkUTN1LsuirvBSjeyP+3E5xSWc2 oQUYS3TBdWq/BSSAGN5vYbJJrFaMll+NzTjVj6H8u68SP/Gk+xpZ+WyPuoqjWZ4eg3H/ ciOA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533MWkvmXJPoZCHzzVmkURdQd9HTIWe0oGGeueVf7mC8zd1m1ePO 5wgASolANdndAWxogpGV3//1IL4vAHhzWr1QQL6POySe X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwmCfwXfhv2pyEkzy/a+1T+FzGc6NcJSjG9PDFZXEQbMAi1Qwpk1rveetAQKzb+4IIFM7GaXGSptKh4VigqAzM= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:1646:: with SMTP id il6mr60626348pjb.143.1641305406365; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 06:10:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Tue, 4 Jan 2022 09:10:05 -0500 From: Stefan Kangas MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2022 09:10:05 -0500 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.216.48; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pj1-f48.google.com X-Spam_score_int: 5 X-Spam_score: 0.5 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.5 / 5.0 requ) FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) In elpa-packages, we have: ("paredit" :url "https://mumble.net/~campbell/git/paredit.git" :ignored-files ("check.sh" "genhtml.sh" "test.el")) But I can't find it on: http://elpa.nongnu.org/nongnu/ However, it is available here: https://elpa.nongnu.org/nongnu-devel/ I guess this has to do with the version number, which is "25beta". I'm not sure why it is a beta, as I've been using it for 10+ years with no issues whatsoever. Perhaps we should gently ask the developer to bump it to some non-beta version number, or alternatively accept that as a full release in this case? From unknown Tue Sep 23 10:39:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#53004: NonGNU ELPA: paredit only available in -devel archive Resent-From: Sean Whitton Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2022 19:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53004 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Kangas , 53004@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 53004-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B53004.164132462719143 (code B ref 53004); Tue, 04 Jan 2022 19:31:02 +0000 Received: (at 53004) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jan 2022 19:30:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38754 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n4pVm-0004yd-Qm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 14:30:27 -0500 Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]:59131) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n4pVj-0004yO-Fw for 53004@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 14:30:21 -0500 Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352D55C020B; Tue, 4 Jan 2022 14:30:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 04 Jan 2022 14:30:14 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=spwhitton.name; h=from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type; s=fm2; bh=LcBehGoyYdrwLY9YEHKnRPxs9G TZ2Uy2LGdDwTm+MXo=; b=lK8z8YEky+/Tm8ndLcwa7jemdjL00eRdcnTsVW2mjh uBRCKMgYHPexrKmMBmv5QKW7N4KrdGWEGdN1wXNy/51biofu7tfCuB3IxTPP1S3i 2InPBmFFpNfO+sz0STo+JJESigoRRKafEMJ8nom2axkgXd+7MlmiD8IToQ0EYorN 0HtEAVKSa+DZlwrjwSQO/HHXSL+t+N9ATigaUdeZbZaQJt2s/kzYO3l54NX1FWS/ dAK8SP0w0o/P++D9TIeplb869ke+eA0O7kZ0T6jdk4r1FS3UdBwGnWnl61Vh4fdw 65ngZJ+C8o3wSs+OEZhQVSlwJWWrMk0wl79pa6CjqrnA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=LcBehG oyYdrwLY9YEHKnRPxs9GTZ2Uy2LGdDwTm+MXo=; b=Rz654F2KcKEJYv5F9+XZ3A J4dVtRXt12CIqoSfORRF0IFELO1rnaLDt5uVJPyQeBxKUkZosUvEsvVyGbm6B1Lo jPFG9QDKDld+/W3ZjmMgWzcrakY6O0RVgEpAVQOxqlksEny9BDzgQozrSyqww53T edaYpIg904kyEFVw+537jQeHiIZJDFntq/lJ0k6RXLTnSWyhkPNKScy/CHOISUoH JuaB3YuPSGzVyHkAM6vi/qTD6ljmBLCn4HxaXiGaz6mqBnjCs3mHlyqfj8ibYDaX MsHkGv+AidZau1YWTM0lRYbjBSYjXKTVcfXtPXV/jj1iRgJqZlDCe3iAda+pbZ4Q == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvuddrudeffedguddviecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmd enucfjughrpefhvffujghffgffkfggtgesthdttddttdertdenucfhrhhomhepufgvrghn ucghhhhithhtohhnuceoshhpfihhihhtthhonhesshhpfihhihhtthhonhdrnhgrmhgvqe enucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpedvieelffffgeelfeekveelfeelhffgffffledvhfekteeu tdelvddvffejtdekteenucffohhmrghinhepmhhumhgslhgvrdhnvghtpdhnohhnghhnuh drohhrghenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhm pehsphifhhhithhtohhnsehsphifhhhithhtohhnrdhnrghmvg X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Tue, 4 Jan 2022 14:30:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by melete.silentflame.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DF3B97F954E; Tue, 4 Jan 2022 12:30:12 -0700 (MST) From: Sean Whitton In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Notmuch/0.31.4 (https://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2022 12:30:12 -0700 Message-ID: <87k0ffuwmz.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hello Stefan, On Tue 04 Jan 2022 at 09:10AM -05, Stefan Kangas wrote: > In elpa-packages, we have: > > ("paredit" :url "https://mumble.net/~campbell/git/paredit.git" > :ignored-files ("check.sh" "genhtml.sh" "test.el")) > > But I can't find it on: > > http://elpa.nongnu.org/nongnu/ > > However, it is available here: > > https://elpa.nongnu.org/nongnu-devel/ > > I guess this has to do with the version number, which is "25beta". I'm > not sure why it is a beta, as I've been using it for 10+ years with no > issues whatsoever. > > Perhaps we should gently ask the developer to bump it to some non-beta > version number, or alternatively accept that as a full release in this > case? I was in touch with upstream recently about a bug. I think that 25 might be forthcoming. So perhaps wait and see a bit? -- Sean Whitton From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 05 11:54:36 2022 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jan 2022 16:54:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41628 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n59Ya-0003Jr-HD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jan 2022 11:54:36 -0500 Received: from mail-pj1-f51.google.com ([209.85.216.51]:38743) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n59YY-0003Jc-4w for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jan 2022 11:54:34 -0500 Received: by mail-pj1-f51.google.com with SMTP id l10-20020a17090a384a00b001b22190e075so4929819pjf.3 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2022 08:54:34 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=YTZ6N5JpH/IudX6ORqpuNBBjMeCyD/05JQ33tbRVNQo=; b=jlrZTeiOpseYfceNkoFRU8V2j/MRZAUFYGPlwoOaks5kWzeL/EMbGnnV+U5/gHq0PN 7KWblmCwO4hQsdnMc4o8Jqk/vOZ/ZClBOlSRreEuUpEkZv/+Q3rpMt17s4ULkxgXDX/X E5n2zsCH+b7Hb1NU/DyKaKmASMc+n935S7yJy3fqpu2nVJTKe9wePdXkMKCpod6kK7BR 8+d4RZ8KBu4U+XDutNl/nTbvkcAPjUaHcPyi7zv8owHCJCxKqjN5QTWBalCpxnRhNJZf S8DOaZttT+ko6HhpNT8YPCOxq0apwGxQ8EHBIAN57tqxWBuJi5zTCKSKiywMEwE+dNZt NcZQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533EXgflvT+5J9N/rvHgE/YplZLaiSnWmT7KZnzmZLiYv2eUMUQn 21CfbA9Oz6gVpR/48LSL/Oj6ZCQX/UFZrxpWRY86DLfX X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxMEAWoeJ8MX5+3Lg66DfTwGNM/dzDN+faFqly0AtyWWJX2nwAR9YpxBdwn679bQLMjaIdOOgWnWLDLTZumUeM= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:7615:b0:148:db50:6b9f with SMTP id k21-20020a170902761500b00148db506b9fmr53588027pll.102.1641401668075; Wed, 05 Jan 2022 08:54:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 5 Jan 2022 08:54:27 -0800 From: Stefan Kangas MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2022 08:54:27 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: control message for bug #53004 To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) severity 53004 minor quit From unknown Tue Sep 23 10:39:48 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Stefan Kangas Subject: bug#53004: closed (Re: bug#53004: NonGNU ELPA: paredit only available in -devel archive) Message-ID: References: X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 53004 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 53004@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2022 16:55:03 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1641401703-12828-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1641401703-12828-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #53004: NonGNU ELPA: paredit only available in -devel archive which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 53004@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 53004: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D53004 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1641401703-12828-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 53004-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jan 2022 16:54:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41631 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n59Yt-0003KQ-Mf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jan 2022 11:54:55 -0500 Received: from mail-pf1-f176.google.com ([209.85.210.176]:40696) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n59Ys-0003KC-C1 for 53004-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jan 2022 11:54:54 -0500 Received: by mail-pf1-f176.google.com with SMTP id q3so31383316pfs.7 for <53004-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 05 Jan 2022 08:54:54 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=LCtBd4DWR4WBCgMnnFfCOpg6XdGl57JOopKuKwHXcWY=; b=MdTg8bfPcO/IWcmifjL9zT01vzP72KYR9KtNPiGvS5yWCJi6hgxFulIj9p7GTLJbUm GwwQ/Pp8F7wXsLQVEILIj+9y6Kz1AKzQSX1+lwg/MH7+dLZtNdL8/ZVzc4f3ZUoVb28p cp8/rBzJ+ZSs8p+XfovTzWffInsd5nmQdbMVi0A1nJ+UksbnzUUEKgsglBujlhxI8rBk hBpgF5Xp2EgxfLKJRxREI7JCtFcMyum726haKEix8O+bghBbVQFKyR/2O0ZyGdnc9q2I 1EMSEfx0ZKAnAWAtC55s+Z8mGTmVKrDABL0tDFZWmpNL70zDLdfsZcLGiJsvu7kD9fmq gowQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531B3O631QYGFT/lfT67QnA+NtLyUJYHTPZgn3akQNouAFcc7MPM ulUCTgvup6bY9wpYveDPR6/UPT+fQFhjVNpi/xExPBah X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwgQjL7VGdH8kGC8C0+Wqv9I9ov0cbNK/JRpHnrKyv8pm/3QHChdQ0z6JiC4PqrxsD12NOyG1amhkKr13i6X/U= X-Received: by 2002:a62:7745:0:b0:4ba:7251:d559 with SMTP id s66-20020a627745000000b004ba7251d559mr56253927pfc.35.1641401688602; Wed, 05 Jan 2022 08:54:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 5 Jan 2022 08:54:48 -0800 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <87k0ffuwmz.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> (Sean Whitton's message of "Tue, 04 Jan 2022 12:30:12 -0700") References: <87k0ffuwmz.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2022 08:54:48 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#53004: NonGNU ELPA: paredit only available in -devel archive To: Sean Whitton Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53004-done Cc: 53004-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Sean Whitton writes: > I was in touch with upstream recently about a bug. I think that 25 > might be forthcoming. So perhaps wait and see a bit? I think I've misunderstood the development model. Basically, it is briefly changed from e.g. version 25-beta to version 25 when it is released, and then it is changed to 26-beta. So if you're running from current master, it will always be such a "beta" version. In this case, we could tag up an old commit and build a package from that, but I don't think it's worth it. Let's just wait for version 26. I'm therefore closing this bug report. ------------=_1641401703-12828-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jan 2022 14:10:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37163 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n4kWA-000286-5p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 09:10:26 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:37678) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n4kW7-00027x-NL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 09:10:24 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37898) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4kW7-0002vn-IE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 09:10:23 -0500 Received: from mail-pj1-f48.google.com ([209.85.216.48]:38885) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4kVw-0000Wa-Hn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 09:10:21 -0500 Received: by mail-pj1-f48.google.com with SMTP id l10-20020a17090a384a00b001b22190e075so35776134pjf.3 for ; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 06:10:07 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Rg9no+dn/UefzmGyoGAPg8LoBRYzOO8qrAeTYxQtSGo=; b=PXZyQan0u1yTTkUAKUPqiATn4Gm+BwBzVGn55NSp9pHBVWHDHydbvCaNOfaDCOFjyx ze304HTyNRAlk4t07WsyOdQquxh0hEjXYG/UJM+VDkwM3qgxIu1n2PTOTYsiume3pXpq /FySQ3s4wvlXV48PNbwY4J+j/9+Gobc2vmSWDzFGmjZ6Iix1iVGQLYKkqdsRP4gIRNgy u7MaO0sOK9W7Xnpu7sTDB251tPNQj6FeuYXCJqVnImkUTN1LsuirvBSjeyP+3E5xSWc2 oQUYS3TBdWq/BSSAGN5vYbJJrFaMll+NzTjVj6H8u68SP/Gk+xpZ+WyPuoqjWZ4eg3H/ ciOA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533MWkvmXJPoZCHzzVmkURdQd9HTIWe0oGGeueVf7mC8zd1m1ePO 5wgASolANdndAWxogpGV3//1IL4vAHhzWr1QQL6POySe X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwmCfwXfhv2pyEkzy/a+1T+FzGc6NcJSjG9PDFZXEQbMAi1Qwpk1rveetAQKzb+4IIFM7GaXGSptKh4VigqAzM= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:1646:: with SMTP id il6mr60626348pjb.143.1641305406365; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 06:10:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Tue, 4 Jan 2022 09:10:05 -0500 From: Stefan Kangas MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2022 09:10:05 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: NonGNU ELPA: paredit only available in -devel archive To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.216.48; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pj1-f48.google.com X-Spam_score_int: 5 X-Spam_score: 0.5 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.5 / 5.0 requ) FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) In elpa-packages, we have: ("paredit" :url "https://mumble.net/~campbell/git/paredit.git" :ignored-files ("check.sh" "genhtml.sh" "test.el")) But I can't find it on: http://elpa.nongnu.org/nongnu/ However, it is available here: https://elpa.nongnu.org/nongnu-devel/ I guess this has to do with the version number, which is "25beta". I'm not sure why it is a beta, as I've been using it for 10+ years with no issues whatsoever. Perhaps we should gently ask the developer to bump it to some non-beta version number, or alternatively accept that as a full release in this case? ------------=_1641401703-12828-1-- From unknown Tue Sep 23 10:39:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#53004: NonGNU ELPA: paredit only available in -devel archive Resent-From: Sean Whitton Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2022 06:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53004 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Kangas Cc: 53004@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 53004-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B53004.164145125520209 (code B ref 53004); Thu, 06 Jan 2022 06:41:01 +0000 Received: (at 53004) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jan 2022 06:40:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39494 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n5MSF-0005Ft-Eb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jan 2022 01:40:55 -0500 Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.26]:36591) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n5MSE-0005Fh-3J for 53004@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jan 2022 01:40:54 -0500 Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE56E5C00FF; Thu, 6 Jan 2022 01:40:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 06 Jan 2022 01:40:48 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=spwhitton.name; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type; s=fm2; bh=CPRlPNXU1xTMnuD3WRCPyED7oR V+JhHWuZGJNd/uCw8=; b=wD8O5sPQR9O7cJuF6JXrM+aLnA5z3u9qSAd0t0ued5 iyqBTX2XAAcIM+nbCNPVf+A+QPkpR4TOYa2h2S84vmkCLbq3iZ9kL3z9drQs5yc5 G2twJnBchi9E6h3QWROQ5MBMLOEc4n7fr3ZoVSFi20oJrS6VuQNcs9abin2vyAU9 5m1TgchrZW7yYRdlvzvZDOdO+6NoQQl9LksnLMT9UlfnfkcaDqaOFnOhJH0Y8nwD eq/aiRY7vIvDTl4JZgSJpX/uoSVoC3hd6hKP6Ky2ttmh9s02pg8BMPfpG6/GvdzS YG/RlyFTd9W7lgeBiKaz3J9VMRs6AqyYp8hHaexWuqyg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=CPRlPN XU1xTMnuD3WRCPyED7oRV+JhHWuZGJNd/uCw8=; b=WB1EqiPXug/C5rbkYYz1Mr wsJtd/pAm6RjG2mrZIVJNB5PS27cnFOswe+zyCljTs9iFbvxM4OQcR+znXTr9WDN /itg/0wirNOHOJsfyr4ni37sUvCr8yNLdMazk60dPaAFMvNOJ4ee0xa8cx/CU/is Sn4oXzCvyxVh/kj7DeJWjGX5yo3gmvHiFEVqZTesEYT5ARRUp0RBic+8BbxSwiCW rmltbnmz/4SNPc70we/CCiondSRgyUa6lM78p2Hfj8rhuXvNsuRT+xjEqW9RSrff EGHNwO8U9cmUAma0i1sAS+rHKKftDWpykYdiHPh3yzVI12viVV4WDpEaK/pukiYw == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvuddrudefkedgudejucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhephffvufgjfhgffffkgggtsehttddttddtredtnecuhfhrohhmpefuvggrnhcu hghhihhtthhonhcuoehsphifhhhithhtohhnsehsphifhhhithhtohhnrdhnrghmvgeqne cuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepleeggefgvdeijedvhfdugfegtefgkeekueeileejjeehudeg geefteeghfeuffeknecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilh hfrhhomhepshhpfihhihhtthhonhesshhpfihhihhtthhonhdrnhgrmhgv X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Thu, 6 Jan 2022 01:40:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by athena.silentflame.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C3D5F1B98B8; Thu, 6 Jan 2022 06:40:47 +0000 (UTC) From: Sean Whitton In-Reply-To: References: <87k0ffuwmz.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.31.4 (https://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2022 23:40:47 -0700 Message-ID: <87a6g92wpc.fsf@athena.silentflame.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Wed 05 Jan 2022 at 08:54am -08, Stefan Kangas wrote: > Sean Whitton writes: > >> I was in touch with upstream recently about a bug. I think that 25 >> might be forthcoming. So perhaps wait and see a bit? > > I think I've misunderstood the development model. Basically, it is > briefly changed from e.g. version 25-beta to version 25 when it is > released, and then it is changed to 26-beta. So if you're running from > current master, it will always be such a "beta" version. > > In this case, we could tag up an old commit and build a package from > that, but I don't think it's worth it. Let's just wait for version 26. Just to confirm, you meant version 25, right? -- Sean Whitton From unknown Tue Sep 23 10:39:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#53004: NonGNU ELPA: paredit only available in -devel archive Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2022 08:06:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53004 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Sean Whitton Cc: 53004@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 53004-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B53004.164145632128398 (code B ref 53004); Thu, 06 Jan 2022 08:06:01 +0000 Received: (at 53004) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jan 2022 08:05:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39558 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n5Nlx-0007Nx-J4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jan 2022 03:05:21 -0500 Received: from mail-pj1-f42.google.com ([209.85.216.42]:36575) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n5Nlv-0007Ni-4s for 53004@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jan 2022 03:05:19 -0500 Received: by mail-pj1-f42.google.com with SMTP id c9-20020a17090a1d0900b001b2b54bd6c5so7601197pjd.1 for <53004@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 06 Jan 2022 00:05:19 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Xfxoy9F4FdES9eiH5V5G4boVphCHHvhmDTGIONR6cxs=; b=As/+Z+cBjsnA3u7y0VsDZV6TnXd1BwkxeBTv0nP0Espdhvr61ji0JDQZIOynmui0Pw gdvgJu2x4oEV3Q/K069byxWO11MPt4U+k6QwcDv4wLvyVJKuPXzpbQgLgaMiS7fTmKlo BjY1BpgEkQGEi1CnO9g5eeVflrzE19IOxVWRgaHbcJ89huSP6n/XSfx2QYxElN/poJRe VRyPh09Gkgzw7af2t/XcThEVvNXqcyegC4R+n/AHPClvveO6zJ7c4v+NR5wg1UyUudiG S0zqso5LN9lKBCMRvFAqbBcJEUqS/e62TdixD6+11cQYJwoQBhd42CYdBeBI4JSha75t 0FGA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532tO6Z8eGWzaP1DFHtcysbUNbBzdxNUWps9E7/X/EZxpyspskyl biunTXfk2DuWyG3ijpmktzRW43YuOk7TxMJxNLw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxREk5rGG31KPJv9dGjUHjcOu9iMfPmqc2kQczTG5Au4M0SuYo5hQwuDbHwqkBYTVQAmx4JjtvXVl+wBARsmMA= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:bc4c:b0:149:ed05:3027 with SMTP id t12-20020a170902bc4c00b00149ed053027mr2460732plz.174.1641456313348; Thu, 06 Jan 2022 00:05:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Thu, 6 Jan 2022 00:05:12 -0800 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <87a6g92wpc.fsf@athena.silentflame.com> References: <87k0ffuwmz.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> <87a6g92wpc.fsf@athena.silentflame.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 00:05:12 -0800 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Sean Whitton writes: >> In this case, we could tag up an old commit and build a package from >> that, but I don't think it's worth it. Let's just wait for version 26. > > Just to confirm, you meant version 25, right? Yes, that was a typo.