From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 31 00:21:28 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Dec 2021 05:21:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54950 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n3AM3-0003Lp-21 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 00:21:28 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:50126) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n3AM0-0003Lg-FZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 00:21:25 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57364) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n3ALy-0000st-NZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 00:21:24 -0500 Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:33342) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n3ALt-00083f-7J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 00:21:20 -0500 Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 66F291001C2 for ; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 00:21:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 8B4CA100121 for ; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 00:21:11 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1640928071; bh=wMxojvSbvZu+C47Raa1y8dH0tiYNcRzYHAVGn4I0qjw=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=Iyidb3xs3HEBxzHDCMgOTlAxJDtu4B/eIVmqc0AiffhuKf/utqSzH1aYlACTe71Js 2UMSe8s3Egew80tlwOfq8e/GwkMuv9rx+CFDwBLml12OLSBDjv+kwJb9V28gFKa/h9 mbVaPKI1rAL+2Z+0/1AYZOXV9BdI1TXEnI1kUdlOz3GscACX8VPHKHXFqM6nwoQPRC 9ofnK13G/UDoGvBGwAQtJjSvb6W52VUutZeDof5hT2KrshoOwQhDKDDGrxR4/ZmhID tklBaJqSawmeLdEI5m0HuclYb/7a9v7XAkHdV9xcyte0sWy9JyvykCR7Q5uAIIkpOi p+i8jGvFdbCpw== Received: from pastel (unknown [216.154.30.173]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 54B1B120384 for ; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 00:21:11 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 29.0.50; Left over files from native compilation Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 00:20:52 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-SPAM-INFO: Spam detection results: 0 ALL_TRUSTED -1 Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP AWL -0.089 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address BAYES_00 -1.9 Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% DKIM_SIGNED 0.1 Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid DKIM_VALID -0.1 Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature DKIM_VALID_AU -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain X-SPAM-LEVEL: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -23 X-Spam_score: -2.4 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.4 / 5.0 requ) DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Package: Emacs Version: 29.0.50 In the build trees where I activate native compilation, I keep getting temp files left around like: lisp/files.elcEzo7Nt lisp/frame.elc8Gsst9 lisp/help.elc92jC2M I'm not completely sure in which circumstances these appear. It might be when I interrupt the build with `C-c` or when it dies for some other reason. But in any case we should clean these promptly rather than leaving them for some human to clean them up by hand. 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TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Sun, 2 Jan 2022 22:35:26 GMT From: Andrea Corallo To: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Subject: Re: bug#52912: 29.0.50; Left over files from native compilation References: Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2022 22:35:26 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier via's message of "Fri, 31 Dec 2021 00:20:52 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.166.94.24; envelope-from=akrl@sdf.org; helo=mx.sdf.org X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.0 / 5.0 requ) SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" writes: > Package: Emacs > Version: 29.0.50 > > > In the build trees where I activate native compilation, I keep getting > temp files left around like: > > lisp/files.elcEzo7Nt > lisp/frame.elc8Gsst9 > lisp/help.elc92jC2M > > I'm not completely sure in which circumstances these appear. > It might be when I interrupt the build with `C-c` or when it dies for > some other reason. > But in any case we should clean these promptly rather than leaving them > for some human to clean them up by hand. > > > Stefan Hi Stefan, I guess Emacs was brutally killed while building, otherwise we should clean these. Not sure how we can do better here, it works exactly as the byecompiler is working (but is just slower in compiling). 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Andrea Corallo writes: > I guess Emacs was brutally killed while building, otherwise we should > clean these. Not sure how we can do better here, it works exactly as > the byecompiler is working (but is just slower in compi [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52912 Cc: 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Andrea Corallo writes: > I guess Emacs was brutally killed while building, otherwise we should > clean these. Not sure how we can do better here, it works exactly as > the byecompiler is working (but is just slower in compiling). I think I've asked this before -- do we have to write the temporary .elc files out to disk at all before doing the .eln compilation? Can't that work directly from an in-buffer .elc? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 17 06:07:51 2022 Received: (at 52912) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jan 2022 11:07:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44875 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n9Prb-0007Dh-Ar for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 06:07:51 -0500 Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:54773) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n9PrZ-0007DZ-Nx for 52912@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 06:07:50 -0500 Received: from ma.sdf.org (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 20HB7mFk027977 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:07:48 GMT From: Andrea Corallo To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#52912: 29.0.50; Left over files from native compilation References: <87pmotxrgs.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:07:48 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87pmotxrgs.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 15 Jan 2022 10:45:23 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52912 Cc: 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Andrea Corallo writes: > >> I guess Emacs was brutally killed while building, otherwise we should >> clean these. Not sure how we can do better here, it works exactly as >> the byecompiler is working (but is just slower in compiling). > > I think I've asked this before -- do we have to write the temporary .elc > files out to disk at all before doing the .eln compilation? Can't that > work directly from an in-buffer .elc? I think the same question applies the bytecompiler only: Do we have to write the temporary .elc files out to disk at all before producing and renaming the final .elc? In general the last action is good to be a file rename as this should be atomic. But that said yes, _when_ we write the temporary file is up to us. Again this is not strictly a native compiler issue, just with the native compiler is more likely to be encountered. Best Regards Andrea From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 17 09:46:19 2022 Received: (at 52912) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jan 2022 14:46:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45596 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n9TH1-0007PR-34 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 09:46:19 -0500 Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:61388) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n9TGy-0007PI-DR for 52912@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 09:46:17 -0500 Received: from ma.sdf.org (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 20HEkFv7009849 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Mon, 17 Jan 2022 14:46:15 GMT From: Andrea Corallo To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#52912: 29.0.50; Left over files from native compilation References: <87pmotxrgs.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 14:46:14 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Andrea Corallo's message of "Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:07:48 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52912 Cc: 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Andrea Corallo writes: > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > >> Andrea Corallo writes: >> >>> I guess Emacs was brutally killed while building, otherwise we should >>> clean these. Not sure how we can do better here, it works exactly as >>> the byecompiler is working (but is just slower in compiling). >> >> I think I've asked this before -- do we have to write the temporary .elc >> files out to disk at all before doing the .eln compilation? Can't that >> work directly from an in-buffer .elc? > > I think the same question applies the bytecompiler only: > > Do we have to write the temporary .elc files out to disk at all before > producing and renaming the final .elc? > > In general the last action is good to be a file rename as this should be > atomic. But that said yes, _when_ we write the temporary file is up to > us. Again this is not strictly a native compiler issue, just with the > native compiler is more likely to be encountered. > > Best Regards > > Andrea Re-reading the whole thread I think I see now what is been suggested. Yes I think we could postpone not only the renaming of the temporary .elc but also when this is written down. I'll try to code up something this week. Thanks Andrea From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 17 09:55:40 2022 Received: (at 52912) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jan 2022 14:55:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47382 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n9TQ4-0008Aa-Ky for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 09:55:40 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:42628) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n9TQ2-00082v-FS for 52912@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 09:55:39 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=cNlZZop62hOAaNCQSsGaCnPYkGJjX04SfQPnuXlIP2c=; b=qhjFQycY7QUkHajyBBpjY+MtEq odlf+tCA1SmSOhyMwR5ndyboJOSTUnSmD196r5cE8JEldCmFXI6w6CodOyXImWyJNU74ivERNzqgS zOroYLaeg7Ulsf1doE+LzM7yI5oR10AEiIoo3bjRwQFf3EDLV1zoBWP9OvbqoMfHNPqQ=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n9TPs-0001A4-PY; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 15:55:31 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Andrea Corallo Subject: Re: bug#52912: 29.0.50; Left over files from native compilation References: <87pmotxrgs.fsf@gnus.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwCAMAAABg3Am1AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAM1BMVEX+/v7Q7fxtyPqj 3fvr9fkxsvzgtMPTUZ/h1czZlmTlrpfup3KviGSfbExeUD6yVz////+BBqVmAAAAAWJLR0QQlbIN LAAAAAd0SU1FB+YBEQ40O9mzfKwAAAFpSURBVEjHxZXRcoQgDEWNRDQS5P//tkkAdbvtBB+2vauA mAOXZJydps8LZpW2QS7RDA4AEAJggNDlbRFm61BWBgu2BgPKIpPhiDCD3NiApe60iJUgc6gDxZWf dTWUl0G9vAO2tr6sk3gBt4NdQMBzYqk+bzsA/AKgeXoHwg9AdYQoURZ4PwNM+AJABRB1XmZsUpqX MzRkXrR6dZFaND22OpCEWy5blnqFECTP0DrEWkyzVofaS0msLI1ozWnSUVzlF1dRjEPAasEWP7ZH jHGza3CDP9ZGe1e0dnOBlFJHZEQuwBeRElH2gHgcmRWROx8iL3GbRmXdhWzEriVd1YhsgGtJgWyu BGB5GAJy5p1YgOwDMTMzaaqIZMS+JTsvkVRARykNA2kUsCglngBU9RigR0AaBegE0hMgn57GAC7C lGeW2hHcDyjeMvpBgEvpmA8w6adWqmgMoNLjB4A9X4TZctP6XaN/Af+pL6x6Fsf3UPEvAAAAJXRF WHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIyLTAxLTE3VDE0OjUyOjU5KzAwOjAweh2gNAAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpt b2RpZnkAMjAyMi0wMS0xN1QxNDo1Mjo1OSswMDowMAtAGIgAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: The Human League's _Dare_: "Love Action (I Believe In Love)" Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 15:55:26 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Andrea Corallo's message of "Mon, 17 Jan 2022 14:46:14 +0000") Message-ID: <87ilui76ox.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Andrea Corallo writes: > Yes I think we could postpone not only the renaming of the temporary > .elc but also when this is written down. > > I'll try to code up something this week. Great! 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Great! -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 19 16:09:50 2022 Received: (at 52912) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2022 21:09:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55661 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nAIDG-0003IG-Fi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 16:09:50 -0500 Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:58582) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nAIDE-0003I7-36 for 52912@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 16:09:49 -0500 Received: from ma.sdf.org (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 20JL9iEc012061 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Wed, 19 Jan 2022 21:09:46 GMT From: Andrea Corallo To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#52912: 29.0.50; Left over files from native compilation References: <87pmotxrgs.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilui76ox.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 21:09:44 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87ilui76ox.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 17 Jan 2022 15:55:26 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52912 Cc: 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Andrea Corallo writes: > >> Yes I think we could postpone not only the renaming of the temporary >> .elc but also when this is written down. >> >> I'll try to code up something this week. > > Great! Okay as of 9396b7d0b4 when native compiling we produce the temp .elc only just before renaming it, so exactly as we do for simple byte compilation. This should really minimize this issue to a most likely non observable frequency. I bootstrapped emacs native and byte compiled and seems to work here. Andrea From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 20 03:20:33 2022 Received: (at 52912) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2022 08:20:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56202 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nASgL-0005yP-H1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 03:20:33 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:46228) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nASgJ-0005y6-Ez for 52912@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 03:20:31 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=RO2G38K9vsL2u7uHZVwCLxeugXKrViDtsbqSTvb0bXY=; b=Nfj2EVct3b8ihhGnCBlYxB2XN5 cDj0/v2gj0dogqJ2ehL+OGXD84BX5agaFytSKsCacB8zdrG/CLqzIWFmBISAr2C8TVe0m7p/Eqyg+ aw79poMp2nCLpYNf1a+GErEnQQNC+o9Y1lAvvaSFERZl7mIQnyiHKwrES3IsUyAoNhWI=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nASg9-0003BG-W8; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 09:20:24 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Andrea Corallo Subject: Re: bug#52912: 29.0.50; Left over files from native compilation References: <87pmotxrgs.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilui76ox.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: Xiu Xiu's _Black Ships Ate The Sky_: "Black Ships Ate The Sky" Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 09:20:21 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Andrea Corallo's message of "Wed, 19 Jan 2022 21:09:44 +0000") Message-ID: <87bl067r96.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Andrea Corallo writes: > Okay as of 9396b7d0b4 when native compiling we produce the temp .elc > only just before renaming it, so exactly as we do for simple byte > compilation. Thanks; I've tried doing a few "make boostrap"s here with nativecomp and `C-c'-ing in the middle, and I can confirm that the problem is gone. 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(So I'm closing this bug report.) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 20 03:20:44 2022 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2022 08:20:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56205 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nASgW-0005ys-P8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 03:20:44 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:46242) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nASgW-0005yf-2Q for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 03:20:44 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=RnvEfiYjkVU8ICHnwfBOkAMXTEPmhq8D5p5Lhuhrrow=; b=Zwfchva17qpx8Sx5rCFTwdAocP mOOzNOvXwFjEK7on6WqnqT1ekubLc/2hSjijrAJkZGfeAT3/BjvqTD+UTBok4u2USj+GJUhPDns+I fjwETKoNtcKUXDAJSI94xBBjG2AqdHTH46Bg3UItecIfjzvCeWXhgnzkIKQXlvAwtrqg=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nASgO-0003BS-6e for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 09:20:38 +0100 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 09:20:35 +0100 Message-Id: <87a6fq7r8s.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #52912 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: close 52912 29.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) close 52912 29.1 quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 20 08:26:58 2022 Received: (at 52912) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2022 13:26:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56778 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nAXSs-0005Nd-2q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 08:26:58 -0500 Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:7804) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nAXSp-0005NO-UE for 52912@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 08:26:56 -0500 Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id E1952100178; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 08:26:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 9F494100025; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 08:26:48 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1642685208; bh=KbGutv0FvB6KkZmYwZonhGqBqdtfdT7er0H9E8AjCS0=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=hsgMloHPfJ6X7Lnc9Y8Z3+oyXP38ioRAyIs90Wkc7QMrSV1XUEO3KZ+eacvtnN8DV zpwzkGHCw903kGICk3MBbojycvDwqzbScbiYLF1LGwBOkoF+uoQNcKSfVmPw6DKfhV /+QfPfUqnrba/L+iPHqk+x+TZhINVsdovrlu0vBLEOBCJE2B1KbqPwXUpnUzVF99bQ +LEwsxY78FkC8MUZWJPDe4d4mB8APQlyxXFl6/C6GEEIctLQHrWeobuWaC9BuWKN4z DkrCHwx8/5jm+rokwRNhsazHkA7FUi6sP20eMIvRljULbtBbQfE6wcyzB1eWVLomUK FDkSdmCwXwnEw== Received: from ceviche (unknown [216.154.30.173]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5B2F21206C2; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 08:26:48 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Andrea Corallo Subject: Re: bug#52912: 29.0.50; Left over files from native compilation Message-ID: References: <87pmotxrgs.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilui76ox.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 08:26:47 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Andrea Corallo's message of "Wed, 19 Jan 2022 21:09:44 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-SPAM-INFO: Spam detection results: 0 ALL_TRUSTED -1 Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP AWL 0.113 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address BAYES_00 -1.9 Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% DKIM_SIGNED 0.1 Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid DKIM_VALID -0.1 Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature DKIM_VALID_AU -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain X-SPAM-LEVEL: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52912 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 52912@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Okay as of 9396b7d0b4 when native compiling we produce the temp .elc > only just before renaming it, so exactly as we do for simple byte > compilation. Yay! Thanks, Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 22 05:26:46 2022 Received: (at 52912) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jan 2022 10:26:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35769 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBDba-00054s-LZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 05:26:46 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38316) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBDbZ-00054f-02 for 52912@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 05:26:45 -0500 Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=48758 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nBDbS-0002zX-VT; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 05:26:38 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=x1GweiQQoYRUiy0uY32jZtFprmeoSpkcXUGt78VGaqk=; b=TQgl2G5mwiNT JrZ8aDHqrG8rbhNpb0R9ymkfy/jr1IbP+PDtP7HqIBA9+bXhjwY1h3Y9Wp2qpUJmNpMREfAlU6b/P S+ohEOJmXGhpGXFVWO6BRFsswxbhmjWv4oXu0QhTDhFCymMfZCS7YLGoeipGS4i4xu34VWBbS8X0T Xh4FocXyJQA+XRBPqhagw7x4fDNQnwEmdxHfOpRe/3P06z7uCKaL5J2i0rmeykkLtjBqItu9abDh+ nuW2JQZg9KRVzautTduaXfobzSxG1hsh1ebc/jyx8foIdPeyGFiNBcoglhfvjANbnzo2fq3zro8SP KcSQyQiKwzqYpm0hWQOj+Q==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3146 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nBDbS-0004l1-EN; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 05:26:38 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 12:26:18 +0200 Message-Id: <83y238m5h1.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Andrea Corallo In-Reply-To: (message from Andrea Corallo on Wed, 19 Jan 2022 21:09:44 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#52912: 29.0.50; Left over files from native compilation References: <87pmotxrgs.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilui76ox.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52912 Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Andrea Corallo > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 21:09:44 +0000 > Cc: 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca > > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > > > Andrea Corallo writes: > > > >> Yes I think we could postpone not only the renaming of the temporary > >> .elc but also when this is written down. > >> > >> I'll try to code up something this week. > > > > Great! > > Okay as of 9396b7d0b4 when native compiling we produce the temp .elc > only just before renaming it, so exactly as we do for simple byte > compilation. > > This should really minimize this issue to a most likely non observable > frequency. > > I bootstrapped emacs native and byte compiled and seems to work here. Looks like this causes trouble, at least when rebuilding Emacs: now the .elc file is slightly (by 0.1 sec in my case) newer than the corresponding .eln file, and loadup loads the .elc file instead of .eln. If I manually swap the time stamps of the .elc and .eln files, the problem goes away. When you bootstrapped the native-compiled Emacs, did you make sure loadup announced that it was loading "native compiled lisp" files? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 22 05:36:37 2022 Received: (at 52912) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jan 2022 10:36:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35779 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBDl7-0005LP-Ee for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 05:36:37 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:44542) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBDl5-0005L4-3g for 52912@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 05:36:36 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=UNUBTNSm8fQnd0rv0yzQw5IiLc8TygfmEMNJiRy28HA=; b=b8tI8lfBqjWGvHleS5v8vTBbnk 4lhoycxC7Sa+tFcgv2Mekpthzb0FlFfhYHGctoWcUMDmZ42pnj4AAp86CtFWzh95Ntxx+375ShEZ0 rU+cXiiJQGkzrXRIW/UD3Vhr8uQusBlEgAjR9PtzhxMM419K1agvztZHBCzm3+c6sthA=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nBDku-0004LC-KE; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 11:36:27 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#52912: 29.0.50; Left over files from native compilation References: <87pmotxrgs.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilui76ox.fsf@gnus.org> <83y238m5h1.fsf@gnu.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAALVBMVEUBKVEqOVkAHEc5 Q2FnXnOuipLTnqGPdoVQT2r3sawwPWGAbn4AFj3/w7f////uBG95AAAAAWJLR0QOb70wTwAAAAd0 SU1FB+YBFgojLMU97ZgAAAGdSURBVDjLzZE9S8NQFIZPblOJmWIbtXW6ienHaK1K3ZL4AeJSooPt qFApLlqE6nZvrdKiS0FrLiJUqdLVWfwf/hxbcclJHQXPdDgP73t4zwH4g9J+mc/b4+fS9C+K6C4d Oydpb7zR4Uzjp0XC5Sob4mEzxZDVSGE9A7k+RmZpFxLTLkCmiEDKlZyJWoJl3RCQY5Oes1JAILPh DiB5cPOxh4BUWreh7TeafWyVrgDZui08hXd8jpIZC6HsqSIDNa8ZrRCwXcgD17UeAhn7TWtAxEnd YVCrlhkobFWg7Vat6g8BaQt0f8ur+AOJQ7uCjhW3Wc640MKf8uj3h3JPrSCMepyCCdFuAomUneLm 4qW7Ks6QlVF5Ps8LP/l44gSB6lMlJbrKtisHvSL75hCIhqIZLKh4WJtNi8ciV/XgsSJHp69y/d0G KRfcEemYL4SaFMgcClimpO+YoDRRQKDNuG3VYwWdoiAyk6EkOjzLEFiiuiXEnRxDvyUtUDNCdDWe 7WEFjADRUXKQOahC3MdbHH+k2SNX4liJwZiSOIX/UV+h3l1o64/NgAAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVh dGUAMjAyMi0wMS0yMlQxMDozNTo0NCswMDowMDRz/FQAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjIt MDEtMjJUMTA6MzU6NDQrMDA6MDBFLkToAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Tracey Thorn's _King's Cross_: "King's Cross" Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 11:36:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83y238m5h1.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 22 Jan 2022 12:26:18 +0200") Message-ID: <87y238kqfs.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > When you bootstrapped the native-compiled Emacs, did you make sure > loadup announced that it was loading "native compiled lisp" files? It's saying: Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52912 Cc: 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, Andrea Corallo X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: > When you bootstrapped the native-compiled Emacs, did you make sure > loadup announced that it was loading "native compiled lisp" files? It's saying: Loading rfn-eshadow (native compiled elisp)... Loading menu-bar (native compiled elisp)... Loading tab-bar... Loading emacs-lisp/lisp (native compiled elisp)... Loading textmodes/page (native compiled elisp)... Loading register... Loading textmodes/paragraphs (native compiled elisp)... Loading progmodes/prog-mode (native compiled elisp)... Loading emacs-lisp/lisp-mode... Loading textmodes/text-mode (native compiled elisp)... Loading textmodes/fill (native compiled elisp)... So it's a mix of lines saying "native compiled elisp" and not? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 22 05:47:21 2022 Received: (at 52912) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jan 2022 10:47:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35785 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBDvV-0005bY-Gk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 05:47:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41428) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBDvU-0005bM-6i for 52912@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 05:47:20 -0500 Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=49050 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nBDvK-0003AV-Rs; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 05:47:14 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=r0bIwcb43zzwEYB+qEVGVtF7Z7hf8ZJPihVyaqYFUSI=; b=T1cFCvlJsDKL bavzAp8LBwkT2CzkC9FgamlScpoV3/80BIYRD0dNVftSAPrGrhr5shKRNgzxiar3WPBjnUpmwwPeJ TB1yNfncTWPZ9GMY5CFVe6l+BZ+3Ivr6weDe19v540jH8jTcHYqNth36Z0QFDFgY0o8HGwDN3ZFp6 RgyS5HkgpSvmYYeEGG2IP4qM19kkqaoEJOlGpkKuquFkyBbohkLuEn9diGTwmcU+U6kW2l5D/LIDt NjCfk+opZqSDXKzk9oCmc3X23jqm/jR+shctB5yw7uQgaYGBNclKS60qaM1dEPUSYoAaasEsIafSj 9EjuYgFlbjZNyp/a61HcUg==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4402 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nBDvJ-00006G-RL; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 05:47:10 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 12:46:51 +0200 Message-Id: <83r190m4is.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <87y238kqfs.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sat, 22 Jan 2022 11:36:23 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#52912: 29.0.50; Left over files from native compilation References: <87pmotxrgs.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilui76ox.fsf@gnus.org> <83y238m5h1.fsf@gnu.org> <87y238kqfs.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52912 Cc: 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, akrl@sdf.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: Andrea Corallo , 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, > monnier@iro.umontreal.ca > Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 11:36:23 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > When you bootstrapped the native-compiled Emacs, did you make sure > > loadup announced that it was loading "native compiled lisp" files? > > It's saying: > > Loading rfn-eshadow (native compiled elisp)... > Loading menu-bar (native compiled elisp)... > Loading tab-bar... > Loading emacs-lisp/lisp (native compiled elisp)... > Loading textmodes/page (native compiled elisp)... > Loading register... > Loading textmodes/paragraphs (native compiled elisp)... > Loading progmodes/prog-mode (native compiled elisp)... > Loading emacs-lisp/lisp-mode... > Loading textmodes/text-mode (native compiled elisp)... > Loading textmodes/fill (native compiled elisp)... > > So it's a mix of lines saying "native compiled elisp" and not? Yes. Those which are without "native compiled elisp" are the ones that got updated since the previous build. If you touch all the preloaded *.el files and rebuild, you will see _no_ "native compiled elisp" at all, only *.elc files get loaded. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 22 05:50:29 2022 Received: (at 52912) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jan 2022 10:50:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35795 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBDyX-0005jY-M6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 05:50:29 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:44676) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBDyW-0005jM-JK for 52912@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 05:50:29 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=JmcfATuz9JMXo8a50PTyI+v3LPffHmyajf7fyabSkAg=; b=gGG/dSxtZlb2jcrKTDOBydldCx lPJZa63/brQxrUDwmiAVuinl7JyImhAa5EpFf9MsJR1zBQ9qfjrt1bmoAtCktPj7RMLlK7luXreRL PR180yiI5quGBbf+0c5/1Ftlv2yaPvpUYXheaeepD4dEYxabGKjXW2xeZjLYWOB/pd8Y=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nBDyM-0004R8-RU; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 11:50:21 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#52912: 29.0.50; Left over files from native compilation References: <87pmotxrgs.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilui76ox.fsf@gnus.org> <83y238m5h1.fsf@gnu.org> <87y238kqfs.fsf@gnus.org> <83r190m4is.fsf@gnu.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAGFBMVEUKBwgkGRosIB4x KSlMOzNjWlmWeWr///8roCU8AAAAAWJLR0QHFmGI6wAAAAd0SU1FB+YBFgowExK0gTcAAAG3SURB VDjL1ZNNe5swDMdlnN0tOekZw9YzRiTnMtx72WruKw3f/yNUBkLSdU/3PLtNJ9s//fViywCzKaSC OSR7jDGEGOBzK6DyxFDp0uksz6+AofcqwpNucJf35hawAPVdf630w7dbUO4YO78XRdXR08dc2sCf TX1aojLm0hxicjWwHMgWN5BWRlzTUr0DKI5LjFtQOESDoBaXayhPxQzS1hJicQG1ZXI4J4CSlIEL YGKqE1CoKxIfXPpRjWfylIqQwlIGXhVNW5L3IBI31whAK+j2ApKv0VXGZefsCoKzocVUTpYrZ5mt WUEXji8CSG5FYY1YLopj3bjDiGhrAYhNVzeL4uT3YwheUsxXWBQ1LwBD15bNT7RNlfaPgXkJVZTs D9OI9l4eVYUoNntkDutwmFq0d78EnGN8DnOoXYzD+dgj8UlAdk6KebRUyexQcmNS6ASGanvnXIC+ kxz6dRji8HAFIrCHXuHu9fhOkfp29IzmfiQXo9mmSQghnPr91JbuoliBPOKXafqBlm9CJeIMZNOo 0Ia1wS2LgJjPQ1LAb4Dk4mGbK7gMZjr8MO5qAf+Xmb/9z3+yN+DjSSPWUZ9sAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRl OmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIyLTAxLTIyVDEwOjQ4OjE5KzAwOjAwwYENwwAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkA MjAyMi0wMS0yMlQxMDo0ODoxOSswMDowMLDctX8AAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Laura Jean's _A Fool Who'll_: =?utf-8?Q?=22No=C3=ABl=22?= Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 11:50:18 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83r190m4is.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 22 Jan 2022 12:46:51 +0200") Message-ID: <87tudwkpsl.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Yes. Those which are without "native compiled elisp" are the ones > that got updated since the previous build. Hm... this was with a "make bootstrap", though. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52912 Cc: 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, akrl@sdf.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Yes. Those which are without "native compiled elisp" are the ones > that got updated since the previous build. Hm... this was with a "make bootstrap", though. > If you touch all the preloaded *.el files and rebuild, you will see > _no_ "native compiled elisp" at all, only *.elc files get loaded. That's been a long-standing problem, though -- whenever subr.el is updated (or something), help-fns-test-lisp-defun fails. (But I've never taken the time to find out why.) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 22 05:56:36 2022 Received: (at 52912) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jan 2022 10:56:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35800 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBE4S-0005sR-BU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 05:56:36 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42966) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBE4R-0005sF-5B for 52912@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 05:56:35 -0500 Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=49114 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nBE4K-0004X9-O3; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 05:56:29 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=VaugEnZ0kEpsrxq2KETjJscf7wE/XIKsn+wXC40CuOM=; b=SB2q77xIwWGj IV7w9gRsKZAACQbtEsbckYNhN+hdL1nRPPO76fE3tvZAa1LftTrACJ1VhQHCseQlOBBrpPXoiuXNW 4j2szcOtuEAXhPqsuE/V1+ZBKv4hlY5NuxTjT0421JIQbVKda84LCXm+h5R5qZIL7Gl3c1CYQ5fhR U1CdGsEMjquAkZMh1plvApJcR/UyrpWakZ2neMWqyLImv7gDrGPMPiMh89FZQoPhA3QEnYubnUQXa kz5RxvMZMtM9NhhDw5YeRrPtKWQpSCzEMj5cEUl7FUcK0g+xdBm8HeLUqGLzH5PCK4t8O0rR/3lNC NoWlHPc+P7YM85uJYwi9xQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4965 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nBE4K-00019d-8d; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 05:56:28 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 12:56:09 +0200 Message-Id: <83pmokm43a.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <87tudwkpsl.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sat, 22 Jan 2022 11:50:18 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#52912: 29.0.50; Left over files from native compilation References: <87pmotxrgs.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilui76ox.fsf@gnus.org> <83y238m5h1.fsf@gnu.org> <87y238kqfs.fsf@gnus.org> <83r190m4is.fsf@gnu.org> <87tudwkpsl.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52912 Cc: 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, akrl@sdf.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: akrl@sdf.org, 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca > Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 11:50:18 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Yes. Those which are without "native compiled elisp" are the ones > > that got updated since the previous build. > > Hm... this was with a "make bootstrap", though. Then perhaps the time stamp variation on your system sometimes makes the *.eln files newer than the *.elc? > > If you touch all the preloaded *.el files and rebuild, you will see > > _no_ "native compiled elisp" at all, only *.elc files get loaded. > > That's been a long-standing problem, though -- whenever subr.el is > updated (or something), help-fns-test-lisp-defun fails. (But I've never > taken the time to find out why.) No, I think it's a separate issue. At least on my system, touching all the preloaded *.el files would produce a coherent build with all the *.eln files recompiled. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Then perhaps the time stamp variation on your system sometimes makes > the *.eln files newer than the *.elc? It's possible. All those lines are supposed to say "native compiled elisp", right? Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52912 Cc: 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, akrl@sdf.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Then perhaps the time stamp variation on your system sometimes makes > the *.eln files newer than the *.elc? It's possible. All those lines are supposed to say "native compiled elisp", right? >> That's been a long-standing problem, though -- whenever subr.el is >> updated (or something), help-fns-test-lisp-defun fails. (But I've never >> taken the time to find out why.) > > No, I think it's a separate issue. At least on my system, touching > all the preloaded *.el files would produce a coherent build with all > the *.eln files recompiled. Right. I've now actually checked what it is that triggers the test failure, and it is indeed a new subr.el: [larsi@stories ~/src/emacs/trunk]$ touch lisp/subr.el [larsi@stories ~/src/emacs/trunk]$ make; make check-maybe [...] 1 files contained unexpected results: lisp/help-fns-tests.log I'll open a new bug report for that. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 22 06:29:21 2022 Received: (at 52912) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jan 2022 11:29:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35841 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBEa9-0006rU-32 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 06:29:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48500) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBEa7-0006rG-E3 for 52912@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 06:29:19 -0500 Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=49738 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nBEa1-0006jn-RT; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 06:29:13 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=tgC0kW/q4FJdjv0v00aVVH4YT+rhhPku05INj8ARrF0=; b=oetK9a6A/Fe2 HQXvpzbJ15khG8rbv+KqXM6QcmJPcm9j0OBy5Kga95JkkXDH7WXXADGkv0FBmHisj8l3mKCB3Jk7t 2HfaNRq1ZTahAlWNumtd8JaGDey0zzsr0qqQFBhcJQhZnhl6f3E+EggY4qRmxz1UhZh7wgTHTcGT0 xxvWvs8xkwp1I/QVKhmt+dJszvRqMw/9Ne8xrImKUz9qNq7VQMmkc+AGaYNl+Pwhw6OtG5fpOFzzb DkN+YzuPxVBsF5trPQOvoByT+Ff2jKc1hO9DPQJnUi/FtKAPfAyadVx+laDt1XfabWKlp0Twd5/IQ YOnb7dMtUStN71fLi3Nlmw==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3004 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nBEa1-00071S-8S; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 06:29:13 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 13:28:54 +0200 Message-Id: <83k0esm2kp.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <87pmokkoee.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sat, 22 Jan 2022 12:20:25 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#52912: 29.0.50; Left over files from native compilation References: <87pmotxrgs.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilui76ox.fsf@gnus.org> <83y238m5h1.fsf@gnu.org> <87y238kqfs.fsf@gnus.org> <83r190m4is.fsf@gnu.org> <87tudwkpsl.fsf@gnus.org> <83pmokm43a.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmokkoee.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52912 Cc: 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, akrl@sdf.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: akrl@sdf.org, 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca > Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 12:20:25 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Then perhaps the time stamp variation on your system sometimes makes > > the *.eln files newer than the *.elc? > > It's possible. All those lines are supposed to say "native compiled > elisp", right? Yes, all of them. Two lines should say "(source)", all the rest should say "(native compiled elisp)". From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 22 06:47:08 2022 Received: (at 52912) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jan 2022 11:47:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35886 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBErM-00018L-CS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 06:47:08 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:45164) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBErK-00017o-6A for 52912@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 06:47:06 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=9SevenxOrv8ozic2Yp78TSWhX+JY2exA5l6o3Qvb8Vw=; b=HeaGPIYjp35eet6MCkNBvfslpe FdzPHdqP5r/99FnfsJWtmTVFhAiweexNm4PMtSRMnZVibdu3Y55Ss0jGU/wvIXBJOS5NMATMcnLM7 GsKgXiQ5fMtAKZFaSd1Xa0C+l5otixyym6HZ3x0se2ZFf5x58MDDmNU6gqXVifxizuLk=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nBEr9-0004rh-VU; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 12:46:58 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#52912: 29.0.50; Left over files from native compilation References: <87pmotxrgs.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilui76ox.fsf@gnus.org> <83y238m5h1.fsf@gnu.org> <87y238kqfs.fsf@gnus.org> <83r190m4is.fsf@gnu.org> <87tudwkpsl.fsf@gnus.org> <83pmokm43a.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmokkoee.fsf@gnus.org> <83k0esm2kp.fsf@gnu.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAG1BMVEULCQxsfo1UVVgg ISMtLDAwQUpCOyiutLn///8Xit6vAAAAAWJLR0QIht6VegAAAAd0SU1FB+YBFgsrJ5v01C8AAAGG SURBVDjLrVNNT8JAEB06S7wjhmuVKteBXXoe2BWuTSvxaiTpHdT49x0old2yePIlbbrz5s3XTgEA BvIAEnShxkeCu/bWcqEoScJoNhY1UcCax1lals5lD4Igh1PLVCExV9alnp2VsdagZVvZF0/gQG3I OXTsrB53CvgtVXvGQyG8qvN8W9db01XkdY7bOn8rfYVIECI4hFKdYUAUGi+EMX8Vc/kvYPyIkIT2 Ky1gZCVOzTUjCko+fOt54Z3O8n4BZeFH5sZFHTavZF/TxLxnI6u0IS/68UbXt7IAYtXt/aLuW20p 2aMFeNYDLgcngqaZZhwxqApwscvySXoKJX3RIpUE+Rjwfhi0hbJqK4JZIZHJXyKnLeCTLDI1FbSY szFAKhNGY3VumjYSwZXUF5ueBM3fAeNyCIYh2Qdjff2Q1zsJ09R6TjNKUW9lTr1QAJB8syJN4gCh gno7SWWmjSD4GddfcgGj4jik8IalzuUQIpDONgRRxth24B3GnAw3nxBH7xrxF34APe08WIxx6cwA AAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIwMjItMDEtMjJUMTE6NDM6MzkrMDA6MDCm0ijMAAAAJXRFWHRk YXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIyLTAxLTIyVDExOjQzOjM5KzAwOjAw14+QcAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Supertramp's _Crime of the Century_: "Bloody Well Right" Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 12:46:53 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83k0esm2kp.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 22 Jan 2022 13:28:54 +0200") Message-ID: <87wnisj8lu.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Yes, all of them. Two lines should say "(source)", all the rest > should say "(native compiled elisp)". Let's see... I have Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52912 Cc: 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, akrl@sdf.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Yes, all of them. Two lines should say "(source)", all the rest > should say "(native compiled elisp)". Let's see... I have Loading menu-bar (native compiled elisp)... Loading tab-bar... [larsi@stories ~/src/emacs/trunk]$ ls --full-time lisp/tab-bar.elc lisp/menu-bar.elc -rw-r--r-- 1 larsi larsi 95029 2022-01-22 12:36:15.268200853 +0100 lisp/menu-bar.elc -rw-r--r-- 1 larsi larsi 86740 2022-01-22 12:36:26.980314528 +0100 lisp/tab-bar.elc [larsi@stories ~/src/emacs/trunk]$ ls --full-time native-lisp/29.0.50-81cb7c6e/preloaded/tab-bar-* native-lisp/29.0.50-81cb7c6e/preloaded/menu-bar-* -rwxr-xr-x 1 larsi larsi 189216 2022-01-22 12:36:15.264200815 +0100 native-lisp/29.0.50-81cb7c6e/preloaded/menu-bar-4f46ea94-d507f077.eln -rwxr-xr-x 1 larsi larsi 199984 2022-01-22 12:36:26.976314490 +0100 native-lisp/29.0.50-81cb7c6e/preloaded/tab-bar-f81d329c-ac833bd0.eln Hm... but both the .eln files are older than the respective .elc files? Or am I misreading the timestamps? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 22 06:52:23 2022 Received: (at 52912) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jan 2022 11:52:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35907 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBEwR-0001Jn-DP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 06:52:23 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53524) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBEwP-0001JY-64 for 52912@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 06:52:21 -0500 Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=49936 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nBEwJ-0007gs-Cr; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 06:52:15 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ECaWgRGNEpbeOjnPM9onUlGiazy5dsF+qXGiLofQ1vI=; b=qra6RejOwmQj 6j4R4bvuiR6QBoRffW3XhaKj4nXmRLrHy+/IhKgJoZIL6NNK4xbgc/g13ryTZcKyzXnLUfG5w6Qbz bbj/skQnLlgfpAzw/k7isNantVS9HqfW408dCUxPQbiMMHeW6nZ/JoB+AzanERHO+kqKzyqP0mCki QszfOtIeDX1UztVNFLz2og6zi8XsER1CkgpinyjyMY/XJYDKyAL3as6trXpBNPhkG/jhks+Wayf9h qvLX5JU+mG2hDYpRkvDXNvhLU+RQPtnnyi+Na4xGyZUDRQy6gpdfJ4BntoR+cs7SdtyUFih6gSOss QtCUT3SoOQAcMlAf8Mt20Q==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4401 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nBEwI-00010P-Oz; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 06:52:15 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 13:51:54 +0200 Message-Id: <83ilucm1id.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <87wnisj8lu.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sat, 22 Jan 2022 12:46:53 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#52912: 29.0.50; Left over files from native compilation References: <87pmotxrgs.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilui76ox.fsf@gnus.org> <83y238m5h1.fsf@gnu.org> <87y238kqfs.fsf@gnus.org> <83r190m4is.fsf@gnu.org> <87tudwkpsl.fsf@gnus.org> <83pmokm43a.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmokkoee.fsf@gnus.org> <83k0esm2kp.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnisj8lu.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52912 Cc: 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, akrl@sdf.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: akrl@sdf.org, 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca > Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 12:46:53 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Yes, all of them. Two lines should say "(source)", all the rest > > should say "(native compiled elisp)". > > Let's see... I have > > Loading menu-bar (native compiled elisp)... > Loading tab-bar... > > [larsi@stories ~/src/emacs/trunk]$ ls --full-time lisp/tab-bar.elc lisp/menu-bar.elc > -rw-r--r-- 1 larsi larsi 95029 2022-01-22 12:36:15.268200853 +0100 lisp/menu-bar.elc > -rw-r--r-- 1 larsi larsi 86740 2022-01-22 12:36:26.980314528 +0100 lisp/tab-bar.elc > > [larsi@stories ~/src/emacs/trunk]$ ls --full-time native-lisp/29.0.50-81cb7c6e/preloaded/tab-bar-* native-lisp/29.0.50-81cb7c6e/preloaded/menu-bar-* > -rwxr-xr-x 1 larsi larsi 189216 2022-01-22 12:36:15.264200815 +0100 native-lisp/29.0.50-81cb7c6e/preloaded/menu-bar-4f46ea94-d507f077.eln > -rwxr-xr-x 1 larsi larsi 199984 2022-01-22 12:36:26.976314490 +0100 native-lisp/29.0.50-81cb7c6e/preloaded/tab-bar-f81d329c-ac833bd0.eln > > Hm... but both the .eln files are older than the respective .elc files? > Or am I misreading the timestamps? No, you are not misreading. I guess my hypothesis was incorrect, and something else is at work here. But the problem is real nonetheless. Perhaps this is something caused by Alan's speedup of the bootstrap? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 22 10:50:41 2022 Received: (at 52912) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jan 2022 15:50:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37700 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBIf3-0004fr-Fe for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 10:50:41 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:49698) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBIf1-0004fc-9W for 52912@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 10:50:39 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=edS26NqOyNcolRSICCwi951Cm3Y6SQ/YkWeCDGPE8WU=; b=l2eOD1mkI0gU4Y4oUvJJ8EIoyN ll7fa/up2KSFHCFsmloDrp04tCuQGl6a9/ey/b7Inb41h3GWmm/WqhoeZjWgCrY0t00bs5nDpyQzu 6Ut/LYLWy0VyKbG4IpVXwb9RkvpFwguP/F+dyadj9u+l6v3d/J4M5tLPpYYOIWPtM3lQ=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nBIer-0008BH-I8; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 16:50:32 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#52912: 29.0.50; Left over files from native compilation References: <87pmotxrgs.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilui76ox.fsf@gnus.org> <83y238m5h1.fsf@gnu.org> <87y238kqfs.fsf@gnus.org> <83r190m4is.fsf@gnu.org> <87tudwkpsl.fsf@gnus.org> <83pmokm43a.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmokkoee.fsf@gnus.org> <83k0esm2kp.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnisj8lu.fsf@gnus.org> <83ilucm1id.fsf@gnu.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAADFBMVEWkRUzBsbE5Jiv/ //9EG+24AAAAAWJLR0QDEQxM8gAAAAd0SU1FB+YBFg8YMgVL/SgAAAGjSURBVCjPPZIxa+NAEIVH IgrBlTCWCamSFIe8v2IJOIUrWewITlWK5Ej0K4SwDuHqcpxNksoRkVm9X3mzkslW+82w7808lqYN Lq8vJ7+r+FBSut1O2zccYduSzNXHvH1/OFaLdkP+G+ZoblsAByLywwsi/I2pJPKIdJD3MxpPqGfo H4crU7QsYL9IE635LEoBy1IViFiUOtYCHge5QD8AMeffHQEjwMtE7hEzrwsrpaEhp+hMZMgfwWzM PghPHa6f9gHrE3TP97WAE1jw02KAQKA9MM5ZwGO+24LT0ml7zlS9ZrsT8AqvTmV0zeFkdprCtXnR q4ifYRMy+UZdmGGnhMK0RsOcQeEPUWaxcwAcic56Jc//KbQSoqd6aezc6g5ks6wWsGJUyCR+54IQ 05eAJxgh5J8sJnU6whBPlygnwEuWam8UIoGAV19xw/iciJpXx2w+9sjgwCU4R60GuHUaNnc+RL8q AZnnWgR0al3CWzcN6ysbcHYIaSmmeopPgzoRkM456pUNJAGiGf2wdzYmvyGS33ETwaqyssNP6Aso 1VZQ/wGiGsRQg+CqXwAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMi0wMS0yMlQxNToyNDo1MCswMDow MD/13zQAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjItMDEtMjJUMTU6MjQ6NTArMDA6MDBOqGeIAAAA AElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: The Waitresses's _Wasn't Tomorrow Wonderful?_: "Pussy Strut" Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 16:50:29 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83ilucm1id.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 22 Jan 2022 13:51:54 +0200") Message-ID: <875yqbbwhm.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > No, you are not misreading. I guess my hypothesis was incorrect, and > something else is at work here. But the problem is real nonetheless. > > Perhaps this is something caused by Alan's speedup of [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52912 Cc: 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, akrl@sdf.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: > No, you are not misreading. I guess my hypothesis was incorrect, and > something else is at work here. But the problem is real nonetheless. > > Perhaps this is something caused by Alan's speedup of the bootstrap? Could be, but it's affecting a whole lot more files than the ones that were touched by that change... Andrea, can you take a look at this? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 24 09:16:29 2022 Received: (at 52912) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2022 14:16:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42654 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC08z-0004yf-5v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 09:16:29 -0500 Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:60398) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC08w-0004vl-In for 52912@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 09:16:28 -0500 Received: from ma.sdf.org (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 20OEGPIM009710 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Mon, 24 Jan 2022 14:16:25 GMT From: Andrea Corallo To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#52912: 29.0.50; Left over files from native compilation References: <87pmotxrgs.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilui76ox.fsf@gnus.org> <83y238m5h1.fsf@gnu.org> <87y238kqfs.fsf@gnus.org> <83r190m4is.fsf@gnu.org> <87tudwkpsl.fsf@gnus.org> <83pmokm43a.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmokkoee.fsf@gnus.org> <83k0esm2kp.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnisj8lu.fsf@gnus.org> <83ilucm1id.fsf@gnu.org> <875yqbbwhm.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 14:16:25 +0000 In-Reply-To: <875yqbbwhm.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 22 Jan 2022 16:50:29 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52912 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> No, you are not misreading. I guess my hypothesis was incorrect, and >> something else is at work here. But the problem is real nonetheless. >> >> Perhaps this is something caused by Alan's speedup of the bootstrap? > > Could be, but it's affecting a whole lot more files than the ones that > were touched by that change... Andrea, can you take a look at this? Hi Lars, Hmmm I see what's going on. The .eln file is produced by 'gcc_jit_context_compile_to_file', we could just produce the temporary .elc before calling it and renaming it afterwards but unfortunatelly 'gcc_jit_context_compile_to_file' takes a considerable part of the compilation time, as a consequence we'd go back to the reason this bug was opened for. I think the best solution is to touch the .eln file once the final .elc is produced. I'll put a patch together. Andrea From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 24 15:01:10 2022 Received: (at 52912) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2022 20:01:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45967 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC5WX-000780-Nq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 15:01:10 -0500 Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:56294) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nC5WS-00077o-Fk for 52912@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 15:01:08 -0500 Received: from ma.sdf.org (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 20OK11rf018892 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Mon, 24 Jan 2022 20:01:01 GMT From: Andrea Corallo To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#52912: 29.0.50; Left over files from native compilation References: <87pmotxrgs.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilui76ox.fsf@gnus.org> <83y238m5h1.fsf@gnu.org> <87y238kqfs.fsf@gnus.org> <83r190m4is.fsf@gnu.org> <87tudwkpsl.fsf@gnus.org> <83pmokm43a.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmokkoee.fsf@gnus.org> <83k0esm2kp.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnisj8lu.fsf@gnus.org> <83ilucm1id.fsf@gnu.org> <875yqbbwhm.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 20:01:01 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Andrea Corallo's message of "Mon, 24 Jan 2022 14:16:25 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52912 Cc: 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Andrea Corallo writes: > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >>> No, you are not misreading. I guess my hypothesis was incorrect, and >>> something else is at work here. But the problem is real nonetheless. >>> >>> Perhaps this is something caused by Alan's speedup of the bootstrap? >> >> Could be, but it's affecting a whole lot more files than the ones that >> were touched by that change... Andrea, can you take a look at this? > > Hi Lars, > > Hmmm I see what's going on. > > The .eln file is produced by 'gcc_jit_context_compile_to_file', we could > just produce the temporary .elc before calling it and renaming it > afterwards but unfortunatelly 'gcc_jit_context_compile_to_file' takes a > considerable part of the compilation time, as a consequence we'd go back > to the reason this bug was opened for. > > I think the best solution is to touch the .eln file once the final .elc > is produced. > > I'll put a patch together. I've a patch that does that, but is crashing Emacs during bootstrap for really no reason. I suspect this is triggering some unrelated bug so I'm trying to see if I can reproduce it on a sequencial build in order to debug it :/ I'll come with news when I figure out what's going on. Andrea From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 25 13:19:03 2022 Received: (at 52912) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2022 18:19:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50041 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nCQPH-0005gN-2M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 13:19:03 -0500 Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:57006) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nCQPE-0005fs-SH for 52912@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 13:19:01 -0500 Received: from ma.sdf.org (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 20PIIwoG022843 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Tue, 25 Jan 2022 18:18:58 GMT From: Andrea Corallo To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#52912: 29.0.50; Left over files from native compilation References: <87pmotxrgs.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilui76ox.fsf@gnus.org> <83y238m5h1.fsf@gnu.org> <87y238kqfs.fsf@gnus.org> <83r190m4is.fsf@gnu.org> <87tudwkpsl.fsf@gnus.org> <83pmokm43a.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmokkoee.fsf@gnus.org> <83k0esm2kp.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnisj8lu.fsf@gnus.org> <83ilucm1id.fsf@gnu.org> <875yqbbwhm.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 18:18:58 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Andrea Corallo's message of "Mon, 24 Jan 2022 20:01:01 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52912 Cc: 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) All right, with dfaf8bec4e it works for me again loading all native code. Please have a look if it works for you as well :) Thanks Andrea From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 26 08:42:09 2022 Received: (at 52912) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2022 13:42:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51271 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nCiYq-0005Ww-Qw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 08:42:08 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:47698) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nCiYp-0005Wh-Sz for 52912@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 08:42:08 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=HTPdX1bl2oefGWl9o/7P/jECvm2CjNCAXIWSpYWOJ0A=; b=MSwqWkpQAY5JOQPVJT0V+pRarc 96b1zbYgvusizi/6wiqGz5iTv2q5cIOGsw3p/tAx1Wmyo5zpDwVG8e8t3N+vdIAj1VKZTTvwIjAfd 6iSWn6Nw3PJw7O4i1ZMkgtr6PcUIEo1dlDX8Fj8Ro86vMW/W0KHIGj5Lud0OGkSHlu/s=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nCiYf-0002C5-PP; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 14:42:00 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Andrea Corallo Subject: Re: bug#52912: 29.0.50; Left over files from native compilation References: <87pmotxrgs.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilui76ox.fsf@gnus.org> <83y238m5h1.fsf@gnu.org> <87y238kqfs.fsf@gnus.org> <83r190m4is.fsf@gnu.org> <87tudwkpsl.fsf@gnus.org> <83pmokm43a.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmokkoee.fsf@gnus.org> <83k0esm2kp.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnisj8lu.fsf@gnus.org> <83ilucm1id.fsf@gnu.org> <875yqbbwhm.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: A-N's _SHAPE 2021_: "Mentir En Temps De Crise" Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 14:41:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Andrea Corallo's message of "Tue, 25 Jan 2022 18:18:58 +0000") Message-ID: <87sftasjfg.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Andrea Corallo writes: > All right, with dfaf8bec4e it works for me again loading all native > code. Please have a look if it works for you as well :) Yes, seems to work fine here. 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Please have a look if it works for you as well :) Yes, seems to work fine here. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 27 05:39:00 2022 Received: (at 52912) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2022 10:39:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54466 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nD2BA-0004Ln-AD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2022 05:39:00 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59116) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nD2B6-0004LY-Jn for 52912@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2022 05:38:59 -0500 Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=53104 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nD2B0-0001BJ-DQ; Thu, 27 Jan 2022 05:38:50 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=w1RTybQpz+VrIVDHnQhgQdGWZnWXkVWzF7qlYKHP/ik=; b=miCi6+6FSbr1 bT9xRNcFggNR/tYMDWHfdHMliHSO0kHfeujEF5dieqdCqvk2PRRZuOn+79UHfZ0KRGsmw+5S5XXWw QGamb/czo/fEyOmvnoISPPOEp6b7pJPz1U7UQpwy7//rJGzPTGv91kDyM+7pJRyU4UMGF7mCSTnKR Ax9H0/ySJoFjOzEUSrnX2IWseg+rMMX79TFVn8PCONDW4cuWhpuslTA/0DPBw6PGpqHWP4tvDxtbI DVeAnLQuRQjG+36vxDjHw2K5BPXMPfIkGs5Olkl5E5hmEajJWEiCRT5N+CMiYd92AKjK/IntDZdqn h9IK/yhKsCzzn0uQTrYrig==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3719 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nD2Ay-0003sF-5a; Thu, 27 Jan 2022 05:38:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 12:38:42 +0200 Message-Id: <8335l9fop9.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Andrea Corallo In-Reply-To: (message from Andrea Corallo on Tue, 25 Jan 2022 18:18:58 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#52912: 29.0.50; Left over files from native compilation References: <87pmotxrgs.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilui76ox.fsf@gnus.org> <83y238m5h1.fsf@gnu.org> <87y238kqfs.fsf@gnus.org> <83r190m4is.fsf@gnu.org> <87tudwkpsl.fsf@gnus.org> <83pmokm43a.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmokkoee.fsf@gnus.org> <83k0esm2kp.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnisj8lu.fsf@gnus.org> <83ilucm1id.fsf@gnu.org> <875yqbbwhm.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52912 Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Andrea Corallo > Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 18:18:58 +0000 > Cc: 52912@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca > > All right, with dfaf8bec4e it works for me again loading all native > code. Please have a look if it works for you as well :) Thanks, it works for me now. From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:44:52 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 12:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator