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But these two bits of guidance are missing - please consider adding them: 1. Mention `completion-styles-alist', as does the doc string of `completion-styles'. (We do mention `completion-category-overrides', at least.) 2. Say something about combinations of the styles. The completion behavior depends on the combination that's the value of option `completion-styles'. It's not enough to describe each predefined style individually, and say that they are tried in order. Please consider providing some comparison of the predefined styles: which of them in some sense include or subsume (or partially so) which others. Give users an idea of which they don't need to include if they include this or that other. In general, a little more guidance for users, please. 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Mention `completion-styles-alist', as does the doc string of > `completion-styles'. (We do mention `completion-category-overrides', > at least.) The alist variable is documented in the ELisp manual, since it is not of interest to users. I added a cross-reference to there. > 2. Say something about combinations of the styles. The completion > behavior depends on the combination that's the value of option > `completion-styles'. > > It's not enough to describe each predefined style individually, and > say that they are tried in order. Please consider providing some > comparison of the predefined styles: which of them in some sense > include or subsume (or partially so) which others. Give users an > idea of which they don't need to include if they include this or that > other. > > In general, a little more guidance for users, please. The text already says quite a lot about that (it is not clear to me whether you reviewed the latest text, since you don't tell, and the Emacs version from which you reported this is quite old). If you have specific suggestions for more detailed descriptions, please present them. Otherwise I see no candidates for picking up the gauntlet, and we should just close this bug report, because people who work the most on completion are generally reluctant to document more of their work in terms that would be understandable by users. 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Mention `completion-styles-alist', as does the doc string of > > `completion-styles'. (We do mention `completion-category-overrides'= , > > at least.) >=20 > The alist variable is documented in the ELisp manual, since it is not > of interest to users. I added a cross-reference to there. That's fine, thanks. > > 2. Say something about combinations of the styles. The completion > > behavior depends on the combination that's the value of option > > `completion-styles'. > > > > It's not enough to describe each predefined style individually, and > > say that they are tried in order. Please consider providing some > > comparison of the predefined styles: which of them in some sense > > include or subsume (or partially so) which others. Give users an > > idea of which they don't need to include if they include this or tha= t > > other. > > > > In general, a little more guidance for users, please. >=20 > The text already says quite a lot about that (it is not clear to me > whether you reviewed the latest text, since you don't tell, and the > Emacs version from which you reported this is quite old). If you have > specific suggestions for more detailed descriptions, please present > them. Otherwise I see no candidates for picking up the gauntlet, and > we should just close this bug report, because people who work the most > on completion are generally reluctant to document more of their work > in terms that would be understandable by users. Everything I said applies to the latest Emacs release also (Emacs 27.2). (There's no MS Windows binary for the Emacs 28 pretest.) Based on your saying that "the text already says quite a lot" about what's requested, I nevertheless downloaded the latest (master) *.texi doc for this node. Unfortunately it, like prior versions, says _nothing_ about the relations among the (predefined) styles. It just says that they're tried in sequence till one finds completions, and it describes each predefined style individually. That's always been said. That's needed info, but it's not sufficient help. It's too bad, if those who currently could provide this guidance aren't willing to do so. But that's not, IMO, a reason to close the bug report. Perhaps at some point someone who understands the style relations well enough will offer to fix this. A _start_ might be to say whether there are some styles that are useless to specify when a particular other style precedes them in the list. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 15 04:53:18 2022 Received: (at 52901) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jan 2022 09:53:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39058 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n8fkM-0002NA-DA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 04:53:18 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:47352) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n8fkK-0002Mo-0H for 52901@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 04:53:16 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=gEwXvLc/1Tc8AU/Y92AT3SPFBpEofwQvIc6LMNg+U2E=; b=QhN5gNFiZnYMzYeKVhj/wXMlUr NnPUs5V3HIJqi3vpJPwy5YIdyM+6TsiQZTxY7EFqwOuevFc+N4DNzyGquQ1EAzhQ4xB5K4Ea5FysO 4qL65E8XwVqFsyLbsnQGHPSir9EwTFYtHjo5RSl7IJ/SPBbEut65XcS5wyVYFSiSAEt0=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n8fkB-0003If-6b; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 10:53:09 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#52901: 26.3; (emacs) `Completion Styles': provide more guidance References: <835yr6hsq4.fsf@gnu.org> X-Now-Playing: Joni Mitchell's _Archives: The Early Years (4)_: "Intro To "Cactus Tree"" Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 10:53:05 +0100 In-Reply-To: <835yr6hsq4.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 30 Dec 2021 20:07:15 +0200") Message-ID: <878rvhxr3y.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: oracle.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 1e6fcccf-28fc-4720-5af0-08d9d871dcc4 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 15 Jan 2022 21:56:19.5145 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 4e2c6054-71cb-48f1-bd6c-3a9705aca71b X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: xv2CjfOO/lLK5xS9UtR/9dxOBzK++0XQT+KLbHW29UOmR03J3yLnubbgqidy7bXMJQZKUHZxGrrrbk2+EuEM+w== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: SJ0PR10MB5535 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6300 definitions=10228 signatures=668683 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 adultscore=0 phishscore=0 mlxlogscore=869 malwarescore=0 bulkscore=0 suspectscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2110150000 definitions=main-2201150143 X-Proofpoint-GUID: -HhtrcGpO_bmsPzp5_eTB6mVRYDFu8wa X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: -HhtrcGpO_bmsPzp5_eTB6mVRYDFu8wa X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52901 Cc: "52901@debbugs.gnu.org" <52901@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > No specific suggestions were proffered, so I think it's unlikely to be > more progress in this bug report, and I'm therefore closing it. As I said: It's too bad, if those who currently could provide this guidance aren't willing to do so. But that's not, IMO, a reason to close the bug report. Perhaps at some point someone who understands the style relations well enough will offer to fix this. A _start_ might be to say whether there are some styles that are useless to specify when a particular other style precedes them in the list. `completion-styles' work together. It's not a great design. The first styles tries to complete. If it fails, the next tries, and so on. Clearly, this favors completing when possible, as opposed to giving more control over how the styles are to be combined. But it is what it is. This behavior of combining styles, and the fact that styles often overlap in the sets of completions they arrive at for a given input and candidates-set, means that users could really use some guidance about what the predefined styles do _when used together_. They after all have to choose a sequence of styles to use. IMO it's a disservice to users to brush this aside just because those who currently have the know-how to write this up aren't so inclined. Far better to leave this open, in hopes that someone will come along with both the necessary knowledge and will to help users with this. From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:07:55 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 12:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator