From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 30 06:12:35 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2021 11:12:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51527 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n2tMJ-0002qJ-Dm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Dec 2021 06:12:35 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:54194) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n2tMH-0002qB-LZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Dec 2021 06:12:33 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36372) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2tMH-0007Rq-GU for guix-patches@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Dec 2021 06:12:33 -0500 Received: from mx1.dismail.de ([78.46.223.134]:25658) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2tMF-0002oi-Ga for guix-patches@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Dec 2021 06:12:33 -0500 Received: from mx1.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 51a974d0 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 2021 12:12:23 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=dismail.de; h=from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; s=20190914; bh=SCJLG5LJ35X8iBK3G8B6xEQuv57Y9HmtYo5HaLIX2ck=; b= JWIDiM9JIUh6nxSootPWYelqo+LjtavtNzs51pBUqDLjKczFlkFEFKijCYL6Gun4 XnIdNWSgXOlHDR/ryAFZGwslZ5TUXT9h9TeafkmvQBZejy8zDIE4f3KGRaz1FMIo C/2umWtCy+xdz1XYO8rQ35mdmx7FlEg11GViqqu2oI3vWJn7Txh6WAsoI83QJPpp vHFJJd7ImEfu/qsYgnLglB77rGX33eOBnMA6wHcissvQWlFxb18w5YPFJL/kRaP0 gCGznwxKX3u9Fq6MHnyAydBbZGS6w422AhroPLaQiCvfT+1TenBanK/6swqLclIp LE9Vuw3HKaYOSMS/Ldxkvg== Received: from smtp2.dismail.de ( [10.240.26.12]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id b079ec91 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 2021 12:12:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 6e054fe2 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 2021 12:12:23 +0100 (CET) Received: by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 95a3ac98 (TLSv1.3:AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Thu, 30 Dec 2021 12:12:22 +0100 (CET) From: jgart To: guix-patches@gnu.org Subject: [PATCH] doc: Add instructions on upgrading the build daemon with doas. Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2021 06:11:56 -0500 Message-Id: <20211230111155.693-1-jgart@dismail.de> X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.34.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=78.46.223.134; envelope-from=jgart@dismail.de; helo=mx1.dismail.de X-Spam_score_int: -8 X-Spam_score: -0.9 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.9 / 5.0 requ) DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: jgart X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) * doc/guix.texi (Upgrading Guix): Give instructions on upgrading the build daemon with doas. --- doc/guix.texi | 14 +++++++++++--- 1 file changed, 11 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/doc/guix.texi b/doc/guix.texi index ebfcfee7f7..a5ae7dcbe7 100644 --- a/doc/guix.texi +++ b/doc/guix.texi @@ -2025,15 +2025,23 @@ guix pull @cindex upgrading the Guix daemon, on a foreign distro @cindex @command{guix pull} for the root user, on a foreign distro -On a foreign distro, you can upgrade the build daemon by running: +On a foreign distro, you can upgrade the build daemon by running the +following command if using @command{sudo}: @example sudo -i guix pull @end example @noindent -followed by (assuming your distro uses the systemd service management -tool): +Or, the following if using @command{doas}: + +@example +doas -u root guix pull +@end example + +@noindent +After upgrading the build daemon, (assuming your distro uses the systemd +service management tool): @example systemctl restart guix-daemon.service -- 2.34.1 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 30 09:58:40 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2021 14:58:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54224 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n2wt6-00046k-Bp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Dec 2021 09:58:40 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:33636) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n2wt4-00046d-Uu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Dec 2021 09:58:39 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59336) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2wt3-0006oT-Rq for guix-patches@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Dec 2021 09:58:38 -0500 Received: from [2a00:1450:4864:20::429] (port=45042 helo=mail-wr1-x429.google.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2wt2-0004gW-AZ for guix-patches@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Dec 2021 09:58:37 -0500 Received: by mail-wr1-x429.google.com with SMTP id k18so14198184wrg.11 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 2021 06:58:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BGjUNT7wWSQ8pgtoN//yVE8zsQFIwwHyQKq2RrLHPiw=; b=mlGhCm3boiLMftPi4JquH3obHeYRIXihpakhcGjDnZ2BbfnXR+2939b6nUZN4b1bOs 2R07p/E8fqxQsiN6uMkrcK8xPeUIuq5Pya2rdZEz6+ybgB67iUhIEILe/b4YcLJdTolH hi3s5oAoGq2Q5wuOAL4EADZxD1oa4Ub26fv3Fy2gFk+khkUJZF2gIdCUAgGaBQ0gloHG zfaDSMrT04PPmJFdarLiJ5oCZI8fHiiGQADEK9QsBiVnHp2xO3BbsBlHMs1Mc8yHlzRY IbGm5GohLlwU1NNIiNDPLMhcgpTNx5cd7QFsvz/OqpPdrZm7xtznJEflOaGUhIU3fKvH qV9A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BGjUNT7wWSQ8pgtoN//yVE8zsQFIwwHyQKq2RrLHPiw=; b=UQnvE1IqJcFX+1sagy5FGipF6kVFNVO4kZp8rhNj97zrxiCsVRs3wrnww3RnuL0Urz ka/6kF671bGIJEPVQqTkgpP47ZzOjFA4C/nvUtFvbEaE7s5CGktNn0Mcm3zooLYwB6WY gtRLxPD3pAX/f1eUOYiCLIBkXt+SbdRkDIVJ0wxbeOLW+BUu8g13oIQ4VtqaWHVG7odS AIUkUbWC3rSTfaNUcbfEvy2c+6riEAP5mMFNhhYcUHvCSksv6kheeQ3cPIlSVKSWctt0 2PMzFtizZ88quCFQ/Me8EfM2pcuVhZKGjeIi/r89YkuWmeIUgpnt6GvAoFDadyw+djrE 2r3g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533t22hCbg5EpJqDA/dPAIlr9lBzeJt+0ey7OhjGUgNmas9mGS8w w/gYir3nfvEXz1MPYXnt2DU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzbHC8kYmHAxnHJ/lf/NY94MbVkKKbnDMD3HAeGyU3BejEfBeEudxylddLeBfJB+68tiaLr0w== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:2a9:: with SMTP id l9mr25532698wry.71.1640876314659; Thu, 30 Dec 2021 06:58:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from lili ([2a01:e0a:59b:9120:65d2:2476:f637:db1e]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o2sm23392299wru.109.2021.12.30.06.58.34 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 30 Dec 2021 06:58:34 -0800 (PST) From: zimoun To: jgart via Guix-patches via , 52897@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: [bug#52897] [PATCH] doc: Add instructions on upgrading the build daemon with doas. In-Reply-To: <20211230111155.693-1-jgart@dismail.de> References: <20211230111155.693-1-jgart@dismail.de> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2021 15:55:24 +0100 Message-ID: <86r19ugn1f.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a00:1450:4864:20::429 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::429; envelope-from=zimon.toutoune@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x429.google.com X-Spam_score_int: 6 X-Spam_score: 0.6 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.6 / 5.0 requ) DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: jgart X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Hi, On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 at 06:11, jgart via Guix-patches via wrote: > +Or, the following if using @command{doas}: > + > +@example > +doas -u root guix pull > +@end example Is it installed by default on some distro? If not, it implies that =E2=80=99doas=E2=80=99 user install =E2=80=99doas= =E2=80=99 instead of =E2=80=99sudo=E2=80=99, thus it means these users know how to replace =E2=80=99sudo=E2=80=99 by wha= tever other commands they would prefer. 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It's originally made by the openBSD guys I think and that's probably the only place it is pre-installed. (If it matters please fact check me as that's from memory) > If not, it implies that =E2=80=99doas=E2=80=99 user install =E2=80=99doas= =E2=80=99 instead of =E2=80=99sudo=E2=80=99, > thus it means these users know how to replace =E2=80=99sudo=E2=80=99 by w= hatever other > commands they would prefer. Since 99.9% of usecases for sudo and doas are simply "doas thing" I have no clue how to use either of them and appreciate documentation telling me what flags to put. I've explicitly removed sudo from my machine as supposedly sudo is a large complex codebase that likely has bugs (although that's probably just openBSD propaganda). That being said, it is kinda niche. I say this is a good patch but I also wouldn't fight dissenters that hard. 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In-Reply-To: References: <20211230111155.693-1-jgart@dismail.de> <86r19ugn1f.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2022 18:01:12 +0100 Message-ID: <86h7akvjmv.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52897 Cc: jgart , 52897@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi, On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 at 23:49, Morgan Smith wro= te: > I've explicitly removed sudo from my machine as supposedly sudo is a > large complex codebase that likely has bugs (although that's probably > just openBSD propaganda). Guix documentation uniquely relies on =E2=80=99sudo=E2=80=99. And for inst= ance, I was not aware of such propaganda. :-) Well, I do not have an opinion, but AFAIK, Guix does not work on the top of OpenBSD (yet! who knows if someone will not port a BSD kernel with a GNU userland as Debian did some time ago [1] ;-)) For me, it is a niche and for consistency, all the commands using =E2=80=99= sudo=E2=80=99 should also provide the =E2=80=99doas=E2=80=99 way. And I am not convinced= the burden is worth. 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References: <20211230111155.693-1-jgart@dismail.de> <86r19ugn1f.fsf@gmail.com> <86h7akvjmv.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2022 14:27:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: <86h7akvjmv.fsf@gmail.com> (zimoun's message of "Mon, 03 Jan 2022 18:01:12 +0100") Message-ID: <874jzszskc.fsf_-_@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52897-done Cc: Morgan Smith , 52897-done@debbugs.gnu.org, jgart X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hello, zimoun writes: > Hi, > > On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 at 23:49, Morgan Smith w= rote: > >> I've explicitly removed sudo from my machine as supposedly sudo is a >> large complex codebase that likely has bugs (although that's probably >> just openBSD propaganda). > > Guix documentation uniquely relies on =E2=80=99sudo=E2=80=99. And for in= stance, I was > not aware of such propaganda. :-) > > Well, I do not have an opinion, but AFAIK, Guix does not work on the top > of OpenBSD (yet! who knows if someone will not port a BSD kernel with a > GNU userland as Debian did some time ago [1] ;-)) > > For me, it is a niche and for consistency, all the commands using =E2=80= =99sudo=E2=80=99 > should also provide the =E2=80=99doas=E2=80=99 way. And I am not convinc= ed the burden > is worth. Well, I do not have an opinion. I'm also not convinced it brings much, especially since Guix can't be used where 'doas' is likely to be encountered (BSDs). Closing. Thanks for the discussion! Maxim From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 07 20:15:24 2022 Received: (at 52897-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jul 2022 00:15:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58345 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o9beW-00065w-HZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2022 20:15:24 -0400 Received: from mx1.dismail.de ([78.46.223.134]:1199) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o9beU-00065i-8T for 52897-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2022 20:15:22 -0400 Received: from mx1.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 2ae43a89; Fri, 8 Jul 2022 02:15:16 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=dismail.de; h=date :message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s= 20190914; bh=aCXtFrLnRAW5eXSNAKIxEwQdjCsjfj0Xaf/XQSx3myM=; b=SpR 6iOsGN+pYF54mtdp9TenvSD6BdPhMAOIuUxUFEVAx7ul7Ulb4BeeM24SNNGqzf6a vFYZdhpQ6k0XXJvK9sXvL2/yIhqZo0HDG0eHsUwzd38ARI+Jh8DWgfn5ta66VBAD Oc3DBT60ZkBamGQyUBkAV7kUNd5cnC5KcAlAwDYF01VJqr3XbNIaJkcTZluR6Apz yq1z6mHCrQQbEUUbxc1nScIo5fAh5HYHaysGL5XK5Hvks21t8TIP0vjM+umInjuu NUAAi05fVaMUw9eRKNnkLIqcc/8zbvGSvv/O+xqUjGUwocOZd3DGAeeB2uhl8GDR LyXQjdH88XpsB13z5uA== Received: from smtp2.dismail.de ( [10.240.26.12]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 77fd8fbe; Fri, 8 Jul 2022 02:15:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp2.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id ed415e26; Fri, 8 Jul 2022 02:15:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 8194f159 (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Fri, 8 Jul 2022 02:15:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2022 19:15:21 -0500 Message-ID: <20220707191521.GN1675@gac> From: jgart To: Maxim Cournoyer Subject: Re: bug#52897: [PATCH] doc: Add instructions on upgrading the build daemon with doas. In-Reply-To: <874jzszskc.fsf_-_@gmail.com> References: <20211230111155.693-1-jgart@dismail.de> <86r19ugn1f.fsf@gmail.com> <86h7akvjmv.fsf@gmail.com> <874jzszskc.fsf_-_@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52897-done Cc: Morgan Smith , 52897-done@debbugs.gnu.org, zimoun X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Thu, 07 Jul 2022 14:27:47 -0400 Maxim Cournoyer wrote: > Hello, > > zimoun writes: > > > Hi, > > > > On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 at 23:49, Morgan Smith wrote: > > > >> I've explicitly removed sudo from my machine as supposedly sudo is a > >> large complex codebase that likely has bugs (although that's probably > >> just openBSD propaganda). > > > > Guix documentation uniquely relies on ’sudo’. And for instance, I was > > not aware of such propaganda. :-) > > > > Well, I do not have an opinion, but AFAIK, Guix does not work on the top > > of OpenBSD (yet! who knows if someone will not port a BSD kernel with a > > GNU userland as Debian did some time ago [1] ;-)) > > > > For me, it is a niche and for consistency, all the commands using ’sudo’ > > should also provide the ’doas’ way. And I am not convinced the burden > > is worth. Well, I do not have an opinion. > > I'm also not convinced it brings much, especially since Guix can't be > used where 'doas' is likely to be encountered (BSDs). FWIW, I use doas on Debian and alpine linux was considering replacing sudo with doas ;() But, yes. This is low priority for me right now so that's fine to close it :) I may experiment with doas in a guix channel instead. ps Here's the arch wiki page on doas: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Doas Some memey resources of questionable merit on doas: https://www.techwarrant.com/alpine-linux-wants-to-replace-sudo-command-with-openbsds-doas/ https://invidious.projectsegfau.lt/watch?v=brXd12LstgA https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=A5buxcYXp7k From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 08 21:36:43 2022 Received: (at 52897-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2022 01:36:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33451 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o9zOk-0003ac-TZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2022 21:36:43 -0400 Received: from mail-qk1-f175.google.com ([209.85.222.175]:35732) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o9zOj-0003aP-4h for 52897-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2022 21:36:41 -0400 Received: by mail-qk1-f175.google.com with SMTP id v6so246071qkh.2 for <52897-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 08 Jul 2022 18:36:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JiwiKZ9DcCwQtjLmdsXGvjRkqhbWuDF6lVlqaeNPg1M=; b=pzn4s5es0qbLKXUo09sPtMqRZQLETw//xdq5ApHq9l/DufujH8/ZLDx/si6bZ5A46f 51oqhWnUeoo3uxjuB/+4IxIZGPNWxrAjrgERvLmx77+ivP5ZsiHSuxxCKnUBTo48uFLk p/VCRETGw17TJLAWG/QNO8HAW4kITiLXEx3pT/aVmdBA0jaBhum3Dl2m/Nvo2MDJoXuW sBArr8jm6HRjc+U+PH0SO8/wQA0BhzomreSs6wa7bQ4lax/QvZErYTuSIC9LpNQXce/1 IcBOE3NmXvqGgcl+wiEOZkw//WBA0SLlBCpdmnx9CB0Z+bdaKZ6d4vPIzM3SOY/3r2Yn FJPw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JiwiKZ9DcCwQtjLmdsXGvjRkqhbWuDF6lVlqaeNPg1M=; b=us605/3uqLtZ+x5f6GeUqYNNz6m116l53xCJpwH0ZPp80LNmO+5e83RMSLbwD+b6VK hRzN7rYIbF+sVM/bSE30Xct4t71JQVmwN9MCYvi6rKNBBV+ytBEz/4KiUKI+PTjrFJYJ xVW5m6ERavVqzoPQPN6efbgxRcujoL9MV3Gq81H3xdMtPVCp4l23i4CCmcag22TJyeuf jD9wMne37LGGdlDZMsxICYX8Z9f32vgLJOSM85Qf+iHl9Vyrtf3zKh2WRYtoVsDfFaGN /g9+ijDpsK7si7x4vBWHBpJe33q/1N/8mAbrWVQC+nYv1SkCaDo2OILeCqWxinK3Q5OI Vkww== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora8/tR01eSAIeQPXCt3n8O1c+5p9aU/Lc84E7ZHPD5xq5VshhK2X ADnWHUCOeUTZ14X/opkQ5u/cgiBZeXhiww== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1vo2dmIZUB15eVvIjqAjVev7wBo/2pOfMdPAYqxj77vYvm84Jeamj2sKWZ8F2xsx3XgFnS0FQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:13e7:b0:6af:477:4465 with SMTP id h7-20020a05620a13e700b006af04774465mr4304092qkl.139.1657330595424; Fri, 08 Jul 2022 18:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hurd (dsl-153-127.b2b2c.ca. [66.158.153.127]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q16-20020a37a710000000b006b548f67f8csm258388qke.49.2022.07.08.18.36.34 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 08 Jul 2022 18:36:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Maxim Cournoyer To: jgart Subject: Re: bug#52897: [PATCH] doc: Add instructions on upgrading the build daemon with doas. References: <20211230111155.693-1-jgart@dismail.de> <86r19ugn1f.fsf@gmail.com> <86h7akvjmv.fsf@gmail.com> <874jzszskc.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <20220707191521.GN1675@gac> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2022 21:36:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20220707191521.GN1675@gac> (jgart@dismail.de's message of "Thu, 7 Jul 2022 19:15:21 -0500") Message-ID: <87ilo7m5i6.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52897-done Cc: Morgan Smith , 52897-done@debbugs.gnu.org, zimoun X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi jgart, jgart writes: > On Thu, 07 Jul 2022 14:27:47 -0400 Maxim Cournoyer wrote: >> Hello, >>=20 >> zimoun writes: >>=20 >> > Hi, >> > >> > On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 at 23:49, Morgan Smith wrote: >> > >> >> I've explicitly removed sudo from my machine as supposedly sudo is a >> >> large complex codebase that likely has bugs (although that's probably >> >> just openBSD propaganda). >> > >> > Guix documentation uniquely relies on =E2=80=99sudo=E2=80=99. And for= instance, I was >> > not aware of such propaganda. :-) >> > >> > Well, I do not have an opinion, but AFAIK, Guix does not work on the t= op >> > of OpenBSD (yet! who knows if someone will not port a BSD kernel with a >> > GNU userland as Debian did some time ago [1] ;-)) >> > >> > For me, it is a niche and for consistency, all the commands using =E2= =80=99sudo=E2=80=99 >> > should also provide the =E2=80=99doas=E2=80=99 way. And I am not conv= inced the burden >> > is worth. Well, I do not have an opinion. >>=20 >> I'm also not convinced it brings much, especially since Guix can't be >> used where 'doas' is likely to be encountered (BSDs). > > FWIW, I use doas on Debian and alpine linux was considering replacing sud= o with doas ;() > > But, yes. This is low priority for me right now so that's fine to close i= t :) > > I may experiment with doas in a guix channel instead. Note that me closing this issue was not against having 'doas' in Guix (you are welcome to contribute a package for it if you like), it was against offering 'doas' equivalents to 'sudo' in our documentation. Thanks, Maxim From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 09 00:53:23 2022 Received: (at 52897-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2022 04:53:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33614 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oA2T5-0000L4-Bx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2022 00:53:23 -0400 Received: from mx1.dismail.de ([78.46.223.134]:20611) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oA2T3-0000Kq-Ug for 52897-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2022 00:53:22 -0400 Received: from mx1.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id f54a535a; Sat, 9 Jul 2022 06:53:14 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=dismail.de; h=date :message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s= 20190914; bh=9t80INZfYimrnqDLnhbzxfNyf77RedMm7qMgBlKO2z8=; b=QZj cXdATQkNsG74Q3v0vdVBgF7rYfZLAEa43wRdmirSwgp+jLoXefK25rVkavaUcUUJ JBHGptQNBvH4Nt7HFanm4dMiBxajLcpLcagY1Dmmf//2iQOflpSugj/UKs95oHbJ D5eKl8fCUbzXY+05/7NyStZ5ykAMtfltN4Ef1x/87O1xPQqDVfsrgGp7GWK/K6HZ twJBIgZrU2pAe9z6AwtlCezto1ARZ3qodG5OukuJ9XVIcvuU2oEEO/2ws/9xK5ua 86PS2Q4M6HmHHpxaPtYKP5mSvvU2iy9pUrax3v5qeFRbwGGGGLI4b1U1NveFPLBV 1mWE0CnxAsuLAFtrGjw== Received: from smtp1.dismail.de ( [10.240.26.11]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id ca950e5e; Sat, 9 Jul 2022 06:53:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp1.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 8fe2d09e; Sat, 9 Jul 2022 06:53:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 8982f61e (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Sat, 9 Jul 2022 06:53:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2022 23:53:19 -0500 Message-ID: <20220708235319.GB6545@gac> From: jgart To: Maxim Cournoyer Subject: Re: bug#52897: [PATCH] doc: Add instructions on upgrading the build daemon with doas. In-Reply-To: <87ilo7m5i6.fsf@gmail.com> References: <20211230111155.693-1-jgart@dismail.de> <86r19ugn1f.fsf@gmail.com> <86h7akvjmv.fsf@gmail.com> <874jzszskc.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <20220707191521.GN1675@gac> <87ilo7m5i6.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52897-done Cc: Morgan Smith , 52897-done@debbugs.gnu.org, zimoun X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Fri, 08 Jul 2022 21:36:33 -0400 Maxim Cournoyer wrote: > Note that me closing this issue was not against having 'doas' in Guix > (you are welcome to contribute a package for it if you like), it was > against offering 'doas' equivalents to 'sudo' in our documentation. Hi Maxim, doas is already packaged. The program is called opendoas. `guix show opendoas` But, yes, I understood not including it in the documentation. That's fine. It might be nice to have a service in the future that allows a user to switch between sudo and doas. I haven't gotten around to that yet. all best, jgart From unknown Sat Jun 21 03:07:35 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2022 11:24:12 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator