From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:08:30 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#52880 <52880@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#52880 <52880@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: "(elisp) Menu Keymaps") - recommend easy-menu over creating menu by hand Reply-To: bug#52880 <52880@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 06:08:30 +0000 retitle 52880 "(elisp) Menu Keymaps") - recommend easy-menu over creating m= enu by hand reassign 52880 emacs submitter 52880 Stefan Kangas severity 52880 wishlist thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 29 16:08:23 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Dec 2021 21:08:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50469 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n2gBK-0004lP-Tg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 16:08:23 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:49424) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n2gBI-0004lG-Oe for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 16:08:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43860) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2gBI-0002KM-K3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 16:08:20 -0500 Received: from mail-pl1-f182.google.com ([209.85.214.182]:40516) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2gBH-0005Zt-3Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 16:08:20 -0500 Received: by mail-pl1-f182.google.com with SMTP id l15so1830644pls.7 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 13:08:18 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=/ZvK27lZSNKQ+zfUMEfkX4/rlm4Iyxre1uW6RHniDxE=; b=4cKYiQqnpSUwiS2g8VFGm2iywC1nVYGQd4VvWlk2IteZ0bggMw+4rRQ7ORZ0WS8puu f+5kXFMGA/sREu5DndJMTTMhhTYcNstPBtHPhXY/3IQk8wzoa2tMD3ntF4lLKRJzgJSK LAK/ajcmav2BYvqjDHrgH7ouB2R/vNb5l6KG7HkSKR/Z8VviLNiJWe3VOr3qCgULsRIH vfLRp+QnwqFDROSv7wjUgsR+0SelJ2wYmURiPlugILz6rRd+FK6CB+m/0iV3DW7J7GGh qtovOUp52ch4Uy1dlhwegCMp9DN2WRNqk7tXv0RvoQix7W0l0baKrbTqFYySZlovn6tW nZKw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530jEVXLSlp604rrmjgCwT4sp1cdf99apoq3qKF4XPoDlELdkN0i N+EBp8+ds8047FtZ3ZH2YJ8/N/G4rLs7Av/WO1hhpxGT X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxTDcuSrzRCgUcwR+E8VmwEGZ5Em1GhY0TOGDTs8TpdFYUHMYMLx92HPycUEIsEPkxjNQ4yv4T6+XFRHKjo5J4= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:d512:b0:149:3070:48ec with SMTP id b18-20020a170902d51200b00149307048ecmr27662802plg.66.1640812097740; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 13:08:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 13:08:17 -0800 From: Stefan Kangas MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 13:08:17 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: "(elisp) Menu Keymaps") - recommend easy-menu over creating menu by hand To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.214.182; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pl1-f182.google.com X-Spam_score_int: 5 X-Spam_score: 0.5 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.5 / 5.0 requ) FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) Severity: wishlist The node (info "(elisp) Menu Keymaps") should recommend easy-menu over creating a menu by hand. Instead of "Easy Menu" being the last thing in that node, it should be the first. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 29 16:33:22 2021 Received: (at 52880) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Dec 2021 21:33:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50502 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n2gZW-0005UH-GC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 16:33:22 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:45754) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n2gZV-0005U4-Hy for 52880@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 16:33:22 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=M4uXwecnXi1Ob1FuF3sdsAx0QTj3HTTFz2iW8tidaCU=; b=CzBqsKLpjPzUT9C63aU3njiT4w X/RXElrt07yD1MEgDhXwI48SoRhvZC4SyMiKXWSn7Xumdg+6I1FV0i0bfN2zi1ARyf8BkLohkAXJB m0iUkOYur2XS/7jVFdsG9bNxfzHiUZkAPo/Rlg+7QHkFptdTT9FktjBL35o5FLsW/4rM=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n2gZM-00019D-0u; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 22:33:15 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Stefan Kangas Subject: Re: bug#52880: "(elisp) Menu Keymaps") - recommend easy-menu over creating menu by hand References: Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAGFBMVEVaSTwRERNjW1Kk lnKzqoyRdGSbd4P///8snCbYAAAAAWJLR0QHFmGI6wAAAAd0SU1FB+UMHRUfBtMKiOIAAAG6SURB VDjLZZRBbuQgEEULouyxR7PHlXHWUZfdF6A16x5b5ACJmvsfYX4BxvRMybLMf/wypgoT5TCDI2Ya hjIc8DCUcG+CYDMcUcG43HJczDNwVQd5Br8O/SYfPRibfgtiOnAaYLmfYAwdCCsspoC3pQO3658D OOlBSNuR6of0BkkPU8FLCs0i4Zq+pgrkW+QEKX35AtyKTaqWsPxOibmAMUKvFhEYOG8lwC7Zsqh+ zWDK4HXXXBLEswLmA9g9KBCM3KrzmX0BHIPs2CIU7jWqzlQBz4ushixPjp8AkNyhWa+zGiBPqjn2 zg6UX1EdRLgMHMYb9ApZT6YC7R9nJ4c72dJNCnwBfrIKqAGuIN+RSccFQLCcAdLkRR1A1+gVYPrW Lbd8lMmz55i//fhyCPlNqsftBHicPx8K4goS2yZuG4BcCNueQbyXQs1wxCQlOuBm6PG7AvXspVAD b3inlrDqcTdUAPT9MGiuS23RcY6fPdg/asMpaDpyofq12+fOAIu08/Ez9qBkysA9pI/pPGovvX7p zqD731CPc2d5Os44hv8kasBV0v0yyhO6Z88/GWog19WigJbfPZ3xF+LRoTRX6ozHAAAAJXRFWHRk YXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIxLTEyLTI5VDIxOjMxOjA2KzAwOjAwKiiEsQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2Rp ZnkAMjAyMS0xMi0yOVQyMTozMTowNiswMDowMFt1PA0AAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Fridge's _Sevens and Twelves (2)_: "Config" Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 22:33:09 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Wed, 29 Dec 2021 13:08:17 -0800") Message-ID: <87ee5v85be.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stefan Kangas writes: > The node (info "(elisp) Menu Keymaps") should recommend easy-menu over > creating a menu by hand. Instead of "Easy Menu" being the last thing in > that node, it should be the first. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52880 Cc: 52880@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Stefan Kangas writes: > The node (info "(elisp) Menu Keymaps") should recommend easy-menu over > creating a menu by hand. Instead of "Easy Menu" being the last thing in > that node, it should be the first. Makes sense to me. I'm also wondering whether we should come up with a new name for `easy-menu-define' -- I think it's an unfortunate name that makes it seem like a hacky "easy" way to define menus, instead of the primary method, which it is. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: oracle.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 24a1debd-e341-4e24-1575-08d9cb1643aa X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 29 Dec 2021 21:57:53.3637 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 4e2c6054-71cb-48f1-bd6c-3a9705aca71b X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: NZhTRbennq6qzPpiv4IeCkO2wE5viChoEa7Eu+v03XPZeb6bdbEMi2kNCHTf0fe2BhCkaouh3bkD6ilGmLKjmA== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: SJ0PR10MB5662 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6300 definitions=10212 signatures=668683 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 malwarescore=0 mlxscore=0 suspectscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxlogscore=738 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2110150000 definitions=main-2112290115 X-Proofpoint-GUID: 76u6Ky_mUtw4ZOlLOoESvLGbGrlaOqX4 X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: 76u6Ky_mUtw4ZOlLOoESvLGbGrlaOqX4 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52880 Cc: "52880@debbugs.gnu.org" <52880@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > I'm also wondering whether we should come up with a new name for > `easy-menu-define' -- I think it's an unfortunate name that makes it > seem like a hacky "easy" way to define menus, instead of the primary > method, which it is. That's what it is: a hacky "easy" way to define (some) menus. (And the quotes are appropriate.) Do you pretend that just the node Easy Menu is sufficient, and just replace all of these nodes? Menu Keymaps Mouse Menus Keyboard Menus Menu Example Menu Bar Tool Bar Modifying Menus I don't think so. Far from it. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 29 17:43:13 2021 Received: (at 52880) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Dec 2021 22:43:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50585 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n2hf7-0007V5-1P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 17:43:13 -0500 Received: from mail-pf1-f182.google.com ([209.85.210.182]:39877) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n2hf5-0007Ur-G4 for 52880@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 17:43:12 -0500 Received: by mail-pf1-f182.google.com with SMTP id s15so19746157pfk.6 for <52880@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 14:43:11 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=dhVPe200dS1fFwjoz4DfTef6BaM2smm7d9g71KlU/hE=; b=wxAFuoMMsLd+kPGvxmcD7ig4ge1pTczSS5hRmY9eevuIzYW4QBYoiboZn5BBW9a/9y m0NYch8efENpgepx+omV9Mbciq43tTRO6cNPJNp1xeod0tBTGCBnK8Gtn4eGWWBYhvZN WfbfoYQA0ZFzbX3XYBK7qFpEMaNUqzlxy2wNACoF6eSCfOwkLBmUMZxlBMNRLugCeCKN 62AIu17U0HznzaBpl1lTrpXN29kmnTdynFbWcUk5nvyI8JqlIb4YIpg6Lpr6ZmA6JTwN AgWLj8yQT54+ytS7hnsjBwSH6Zb62v7MoDoi/FP0PgMnioZ/KegPs1iNa4RjdbsNAv8B i58Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532lXalHhNWh9JhHnJhsbaNZU25nahO0W2Vjexso9K/DYtpoNVj0 wgMPimD8/eTpHY1JyZXrzPgu9RL10IixV9FCoZpRHspF X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwPlIb+KP8SHuvqYaX6sUwfV6v1Q5gPIEnkKLWr/ZFZUHr6SBgjyz1qHLXyR+gHgJq6jrpEENMe4dZsfebHrmM= X-Received: by 2002:a63:2c11:: with SMTP id s17mr24815787pgs.435.1640817785688; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 14:43:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 14:43:05 -0800 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <87ee5v85be.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87ee5v85be.fsf@gnus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 14:43:05 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#52880: "(elisp) Menu Keymaps") - recommend easy-menu over creating menu by hand To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52880 Cc: 52880@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > I'm also wondering whether we should come up with a new name for > `easy-menu-define' -- I think it's an unfortunate name that makes it > seem like a hacky "easy" way to define menus, instead of the primary > method, which it is. Could `defvar-menu' work? It would go well with `defvar-keymap', if nothing else. > But it might not be worth the bother. We could just make the old name into an alias, without making it obsolete. Or make the new name into an alias, which is even less invasive. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stefan Kangas writes: > Could `defvar-menu' work? It would go well with `defvar-keymap', if > nothing else. Yes, that'd be a good name, I think. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52880 Cc: 52880@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Stefan Kangas writes: > Could `defvar-menu' work? It would go well with `defvar-keymap', if > nothing else. Yes, that'd be a good name, I think. >> But it might not be worth the bother. > > We could just make the old name into an alias, without making it > obsolete. > > Or make the new name into an alias, which is even less invasive. If we introduce something like `defvar-menu', then perhaps we should consider changing the syntax slightly, but I guess it's fine as it is... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no