From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Dec 20 16:10:18 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1NMT2g-0007Ye-6w for mharc-bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:10:18 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NMT2e-0007YL-Jh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:10:16 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NMT2a-0007Xk-2q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:10:16 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43855 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NMT2Z-0007Xh-SK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:10:11 -0500 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36197) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NMT2Z-000707-Jg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:10:11 -0500 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NMSpp-000066-K2; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:57:01 -0500 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Followup-To: Peter Dyballa , 5253@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Peter Dyballa Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 20:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 5253 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.1261342605366 (code B ref -1); Sun, 20 Dec 2009 20:57:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Dec 2009 20:56:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NMSpW-00005r-Ut for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:56:45 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NMSpV-00005m-U6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:56:42 -0500 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:48013) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NMSpR-0008Ad-RU for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:56:37 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NMSpQ-0003gn-3Z for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:56:37 -0500 Received: from mout6.freenet.de ([195.4.92.96]:34319) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NMSpP-0003gJ-Q0 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:56:35 -0500 Received: from [195.4.92.23] (helo=13.mx.freenet.de) by mout6.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.70 #1) id 1NMSpO-0002UF-3e for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 21:56:34 +0100 Received: from p5b23e1a8.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.35.225.168]:54799 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 13.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 587) (Exim 4.69 #94) id 1NMSpN-0007LH-Si for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 21:56:34 +0100 Message-Id: <7AF0B699-38F0-4E0B-B414-DC195FA44359@Freenet.DE> From: Peter Dyballa To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 21:56:30 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:57:01 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Cc: Subject: bug#5253: 23.1.90; --without-dbus fails X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Reply-To: Peter Dyballa , 5253@debbugs.gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 21:10:16 -0000 Hello! When configuring --without-dbus this fails, because GConf is used and it has: checking GCONF_CFLAGS... -DORBIT2=1 -I/sw/include/gconf/2 -I/sw/ include/orbit-2.0 -I/sw/include/dbus-1.0 -I/sw/lib/dbus-1.0/include -I/ sw/include/glib-2.0 -I/sw/lib/glib-2.0/include checking GCONF_LIBS... -L/sw/lib -lgconf-2 -lORBit-2 -lm -ldbus-1 - lpthread -lgmodule-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lintl - liconv In the end it is reported: Does Emacs use -lgpm? no Does Emacs use -ldbus? no Does Emacs use -lgconf? yes Does Emacs use -lfreetype? yes But then, when I look at the libraries used, libdbus *is* used. I can only get red of it completely when I also configure --without-gconf. -- Greetings Pete A morning without coffee is like something without something else. From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:00:33 2025 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: bug#5253: 23.1.90; --without-dbus fails Reply-To: Chong Yidong , 5253@debbugs.gnu.org Mail-Followup-To: Chong Yidong , 5253@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Chong Yidong Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:03:50 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 5253 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 5253-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5253.126246834631007 (code B ref 5253); Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:03:50 +0000 Received: (at 5253) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jan 2010 21:39:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NRBgg-000844-DM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:39:06 -0500 Received: from pantheon-po29.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.124]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NRBgf-00083j-3l for 5253@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:39:05 -0500 Received: from furry (adsl-99-75-106-169.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net [99.75.106.169]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po29.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o02Ld0gW001597 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 2 Jan 2010 16:39:00 -0500 Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5A235C05D; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 16:39:00 -0500 (EST) From: Chong Yidong To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:39:00 -0500 Message-ID: <87r5q8mbkb.fsf@stupidchicken.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Cc: Peter Dyballa , 5253@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.1 (-----) Hi Jan, could you take a look at this bug report from a few weeks ago? IIUC, Peter Dyballa is compiling on Mac OS X with the X11 and GTK libraries, but I'm not sure how this differs from the usual GNU/Linux case. > When configuring --without-dbus this fails, because GConf is used > and it has: > > checking GCONF_CFLAGS... -DORBIT2=1 -I/sw/include/gconf/2 > -I/sw/include/orbit-2.0 -I/sw/include/dbus-1.0 > -I/sw/lib/dbus-1.0/include -I/sw/include/glib-2.0 > -I/sw/lib/glib-2.0/include > checking GCONF_LIBS... -L/sw/lib -lgconf-2 -lORBit-2 -lm -ldbus-1 > -lpthread -lgmodule-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lintl > -liconv > > In the end it is reported: > > Does Emacs use -lgpm? no > Does Emacs use -ldbus? no > Does Emacs use -lgconf? yes > Does Emacs use -lfreetype? yes > > But then, when I look at the libraries used, libdbus *is* used. I can > only get red of it completely when I also configure --without-gconf. From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:00:33 2025 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: bug#5253: 23.1.90; --without-dbus fails Reply-To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= , 5253@debbugs.gnu.org Mail-Followup-To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= , 5253@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:03:50 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 5253 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 5253-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5253.126252394024994 (code B ref 5253); Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:03:50 +0000 Received: (at 5253) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jan 2010 13:05:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NRQ9L-0006V4-Uk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 08:05:40 -0500 Received: from proxy1.bredband.net ([195.54.101.71]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NRQ49-0006S9-H3; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 08:00:19 -0500 Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (195.54.127.165) by proxy1.bredband.net (7.3.140.3) id 4AD3E1C0021C1694; Sun, 3 Jan 2010 14:00:11 +0100 X-SMTPAUTH-B2: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai80ACYjQEtV4S1uPGdsb2JhbACBRJl3AQEBATe1D4QxBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,492,1257116400"; d="scan'208";a="22706182" Received: from c-6e2de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.110]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 03 Jan 2010 14:00:11 +0100 Received: from [172.20.199.2] (gaffa [172.20.199.2]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E237FA07B; Sun, 3 Jan 2010 14:00:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B4094DA.5000907@swipnet.se> Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 14:00:10 +0100 From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Dyballa , 5253@debbugs.gnu.org, 5253-done@debbugs.gnu.org References: <7AF0B699-38F0-4E0B-B414-DC195FA44359@Freenet.DE> In-Reply-To: <7AF0B699-38F0-4E0B-B414-DC195FA44359@Freenet.DE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 08:05:33 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Peter Dyballa skrev: > Hello! > > When configuring --without-dbus this fails, because GConf is used and > it has: > AFAIK, nothing "fails". Emacs still runs doesn't it? without-dbus does not mean "under no circumstances link with -ldbus", it means "do not compile in an elisp dbus interface into Emacs". We can't be expected to keep track of every library requierd by libraries for every distribution thet Emacs uses and give configure switches to compile without them. It is too much work to figure out if --without-xxx implies --without-yyy on OS ZZZ using PanPorts version 3.5.1. If GConf requires dbus, we can't simply remove it, GConf wouldn't link then. FWIW, dbus is not usually a requirement for GConf (i.e. normal GNU/LInux os), I guess Fink/MacPorts descided to make it so. Some configure switches leads to a library not being linked, but those are the simple cases. This is not a bug at all, it is expected behaviour. Jan D. From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:00:33 2025 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: bug#5253: 23.1.90; --without-dbus fails Reply-To: Peter Dyballa , 5253@debbugs.gnu.org Mail-Followup-To: Peter Dyballa , 5253@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Peter Dyballa Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:03:51 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 5253 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 5253-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5253.126253038128668 (code B ref 5253); Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:03:51 +0000 Received: (at 5253) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jan 2010 14:53:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NRRpE-0007SK-VM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 09:53:01 -0500 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([195.4.92.91]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NRRpB-0007SC-Bi; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 09:52:59 -0500 Received: from [195.4.92.20] (helo=10.mx.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.70 #1) id 1NRRp4-00010O-Q8; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 15:52:50 +0100 Received: from p5b23dfe9.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.35.223.233]:60789 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 10.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 587) (Exim 4.69 #94) id 1NRRp3-0001ld-F5; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 15:52:50 +0100 Message-Id: From: Peter Dyballa To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= In-Reply-To: <4B4094DA.5000907@swipnet.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 15:52:45 +0100 References: <7AF0B699-38F0-4E0B-B414-DC195FA44359@Freenet.DE> <4B4094DA.5000907@swipnet.se> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Cc: 5253-done@debbugs.gnu.org, 5253@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) Am 03.01.2010 um 14:00 schrieb Jan Dj=E4rv: > FWIW, dbus is not usually a requirement for GConf (i.e. normal GNU/=20 > LInux os), I guess Fink/MacPorts descided to make it so. The configure parameters for building GConf2 used in Fink are: ConfigureParams: --mandir=3D%p/share/man --libexecdir=3D%p/lib/%n = --=20 disable-debug --disable-dependency-tracking --disable-static --enable-=20= gtk-doc --enable-gtk --disable-defaults-service PKG_CONFIG_PATH=3D"%p/=20= lib/fontconfig2/lib/pkgconfig:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH" So there is no explicite dependency introduced... OK, I could patch =20 the PC file or create a local GConf package without DBus... -- Greetings Pete America believes in education: the average professor earns more money =20= in a year than a professional athlete earns in a whole week. =96 Evan Esar