From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 30 16:17:40 2021 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Nov 2021 21:17:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42708 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1msAVP-0007Gn-UV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 16:17:40 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:40064) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1msAVO-0007Gd-8E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 16:17:38 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43030) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1msAVN-0003qY-R1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 16:17:37 -0500 Received: from mailgw101.it.ntnu.no ([129.241.56.177]:55012) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1msAVL-0003kz-6o for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 16:17:37 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ntnu.no; i=@ntnu.no; q=dns/txt; s=s1-1909-ntnu; t=1638307050; h=from : to : subject : date : message-id : mime-version : content-type : from; bh=+XiQQGMN+sNSEhXVqh3UTu2pkocsICxK71Nas06nNOY=; b=hJcwbMoX6kNUYPUDVgI9Fj2f0NoWXsN6s4EjP0U31wAnQdwduIEDMqO9+c9WBFIzx+lGD kBmJma/aHniVJH0xM1cL6oPDjD5RiOT4Lm2xbR4mf1yB5ZSaD7SJb9uYgLbTBSlV4mr7vu2 kp1KZqsFSbmVQt9cb24MC9JDWMhjnqVIRSaKa9o8zY+AYF0GQsTsE/GSQYoxzAbG3dhv3nA A/qhHlDmZnJsOgFV5dKAOvkJV/oMIjeUKV6Ce406zbWqH7Cnu/sbL6D4SkpkqaAKaDL6GgI /PP7YMINAri7qaVzZqEHwSZHIXOwC+RLe6aKL/GcIeMeIMtRWR2zrn9fYhaA== Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw101.it.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E1B1DE2E11 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 22:17:30 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailgw101.it.ntnu.no X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.59 X-Spam-Level: Received: from mailgw101.it.ntnu.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgw101.it.ntnu.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NlzRt8aivL29 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 22:17:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (unknown [91.219.215.154]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: takringe@ntnu.no) by mailgw101.it.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 487131DE2E10 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 22:17:30 +0100 (CET) From: Tor Kringeland To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Changing `csv-separators' in `csv-mode' does not work Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2021 22:17:28 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=129.241.56.177; envelope-from=tor.a.s.kringeland@ntnu.no; helo=mailgw101.it.ntnu.no X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Changing the value of `csv-separators' /e.g./ to (setq csv-separators '(";")) (from it's default value) while in an Emacs session does not have any effect. Putting this in a config and re-starting Emacs works, though. When using `csv-align-mode' it's prudent to have just one "CSV separator", otherwise things will look ugly if you happen to have another separator character in the file. If one wants to switch between a CSV file whose delimiter is `;' and another whose delimiter is `,', one would have to change the value of `csv-separators', which isn't so bad, but restarting Emacs for this to take effect is vexing. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 30 16:39:11 2021 Received: (at 52208) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Nov 2021 21:39:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42714 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1msAqE-0007op-QT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 16:39:11 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:49003) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1msAqD-0007oa-FS for 52208@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 16:39:10 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1638308342; bh=F3mOHcBk50ogtB2U8yyZeYUwD7uyV3K6BH9mo0fil7A=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=UWPdQ7qEnrYc7H/0TpTrnaRYEMdhErQVXRArpQEB/VU3FnY9yUBxG3UD2vOBTcvZi rDByfXt9gSI/EdEOnMCYzj1l4VomMZxVVgTP+Ou2Zr1svRRhCGOp0f/p4LWPB5rUfr xpYQmAkTC2SdjuZwL/+RGOaLAWZnC9CvJMjihf9k= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from strobelfs ([188.109.164.12]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M3lY1-1mrtrB0YUt-000up9; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 22:39:02 +0100 From: Stephen Berman To: Tor Kringeland Subject: Re: bug#52208: Changing `csv-separators' in `csv-mode' does not work References: Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2021 22:39:00 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Tor Kringeland's message of "Tue, 30 Nov 2021 22:17:28 +0100") Message-ID: <87ilw98gsr.fsf@gmx.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:EIHkrmh71SsI4+O34MUu/tBvG21XAYqLbyZxjqldGWIrXDj9UKH EGdWx9VwxzgaWvBHpv1V7tGL56BF7+mPrJ6fgl94a6KlpArciekCg7EzglN8tmxTMbz9sP0 3ExJGBFggO0MHrGEjNoY/CMC100/x4zT+yUWmB4nmGpmonxXic2sD1KNjKPV3kQcci8dYTJ ifPXRC4Y0TItV+YSvuzPQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:55Ipa9iAV80=:NrpGHcJAPvLDY8MdUJklHV 8NnMG2Ki83nJ8WWPyA1cZu4FLez/qzTO7AFDt+jm+4FsUC//HbQxQih9yzlS87zt4LPwOsGKd APdxZryMUP27n+QUplRIyoNgn0zxcyu2/A1b4NYh/Jf+DwtkDGBwTBWg6np3jsZeVIVR0QcFL 8H9THrOy9BW6HvZ/ghz89pMe2t3ai0HMjkzlW6i+TUjZ2oudu9rS1ZvivFYEWMAhJpGuio2QZ IUbYHlTvvY9WULrHkupXNdGQQJbzyUoDj8HnJvC7v3YhTPOA5wuj923dXkjTDkoKwSXNif02J eQ9A4Fkd+PFU5tMfTbXVz6InpOlnzZ4lnbw6fdD5Mm/zdu/bozC9w7QT1Qz9OCwS3FTRRvfoG UZ6pDBCSTAm1eVz/wXkwD4NZHeKaGCbHE9IS4os7ObhfaFYKQ0W+Z31zqC9I0QG93P0i4Ek3W LHj9qmp4ki5Fl92TIG0IoV1Wb6zHlzGiuwRQJUVNPyYhVXdqLKUnYL1TT4YoTEjwSglsckwVq JG3x/rU62xxC24hzoDU/USQfkoAK4Z6AWDa7hJ44hxEoDt4JcyLloCgZaQI533RFFINYpZWWn 87RziLk9MvCak5G+nwLJEP+6BXXqjChLtuibPh8IFz1MeosEw3q8bYFTvRRyXcbCxPDAMxoSI N96VG+F/M5c6whwDlNFwo1dZ8SkUZX9DQSRZv9ZYofh26SHkTGLmmgiWRodL/q5aOsRDm7cT+ oAQ24UH8lJ4xD671xfKWSyB2qROx5XagULJVXg6xSfJvhY51+INiOU7/n2HwkvgKkvlMq8Li7 ZcsSKNoykXUDt8Zqs3Xo1tmWNeIW5iZB98GQuJYiqZt9TdZvIGSK931/ICntbfyGbIBnGP7Ad fXu+R44buS1ouCvCHjey7kq2yVoW31rXItDUU998dCjv7MO5BwQBAEfcE9VvkoCzML2vVLE5u EYiTN0Q9xsbPApuLddIYgudmdaPygs3oU5dISe29K93RyVa5tFtznHzyF4Q0md1CXG91OR85K XwSHXZNN/8WHaZfqYc1owckrO+rjBBaPbqviqrTcwsqSiuYMGWwrbc2ghWdGaXBi5W62tB1/7 EMkPaSDAzMIRIw= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52208 Cc: 52208@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 22:17:28 +0100 Tor Kringeland wrote: > Changing the value of `csv-separators' /e.g./ to > > (setq csv-separators '(";")) > > (from it's default value) while in an Emacs session does not have any > effect. Putting this in a config and re-starting Emacs works, though. > > When using `csv-align-mode' it's prudent to have just one "CSV > separator", otherwise things will look ugly if you happen to have > another separator character in the file. If one wants to switch between > a CSV file whose delimiter is `;' and another whose delimiter is `,', > one would have to change the value of `csv-separators', which isn't so > bad, but restarting Emacs for this to take effect is vexing. If you use `M-x customize-option' instead of setq, it takes effect in the current Emacs session. Steve Berman From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 30 23:03:27 2021 Received: (at 52208) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Dec 2021 04:03:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42921 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1msGq7-0002dG-ID for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 23:03:27 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:48524) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1msGq5-0002d0-Ma for 52208@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 23:03:26 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=DIXuXVSPnqj7FsC5Qz54D6IOK5z+ZsLn1ADIxCUecOU=; b=aWu4UqkyTMRJLKrzmMfOqoB8Ub SskJInpqAQn7SuU8N2iMfFXJSa1cG0jiR8PbzXuSn+bIll2iIOW3BDT73omfjl9N/2A6+fWc++lpq cLtS/tLLX/Nj1/cKJppPvebAyJwBPMNFfK5eNGh9aDklSgB2Is080td06ARg6MDU4ghw=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1msGpw-0003vM-U8; Wed, 01 Dec 2021 05:03:19 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Stephen Berman Subject: Re: bug#52208: Changing `csv-separators' in `csv-mode' does not work References: <87ilw98gsr.fsf@gmx.net> X-Now-Playing: Streifenjunko's _Like Driving_: "Like Driving" Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2021 05:03:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87ilw98gsr.fsf@gmx.net> (Stephen Berman's message of "Tue, 30 Nov 2021 22:39:00 +0100") Message-ID: <87r1axas57.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stephen Berman writes: > If you use `M-x customize-option' instead of setq, it takes effect in > the current Emacs session. Yup. You can also use `set-variable', so I've now mentioned that in the `csv-separators' doc string. 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