From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:43:51 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#52168: 29.0.50; Gnus buffers unexpectedly killed by project-kill-buffers Resent-From: Matthias Meulien Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2021 20:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 52168 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 52168@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.163813289015404 (code B ref -1); Sun, 28 Nov 2021 20:55:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Nov 2021 20:54:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36432 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mrRCE-00040O-2B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 15:54:50 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:56054) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mrRCC-00040F-1s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 15:54:49 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36554) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mrRCB-0005PD-Kh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 15:54:47 -0500 Received: from [2a00:1450:4864:20::329] (port=44955 helo=mail-wm1-x329.google.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mrRC7-00059p-JY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 15:54:46 -0500 Received: by mail-wm1-x329.google.com with SMTP id p27-20020a05600c1d9b00b0033bf8532855so10943848wms.3 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 12:54:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=MkvJ2jDdRRfs7inEqGqk+6Ns2ROJQOCopiZFv9OfFB0=; b=KOoAEftdm3JiNO9GO+OhB2facxai5g+ln0Q3rrA6vskw0Kjwitnep/naC6a0Io5AxU gE/hCh6g85SeS+pwCCAH9mHV5ft4SO7FOtTAPs/xkBpuWkhJ9fgDO2G3p7HfdCY6+Ipi xQZXr2AQZnSIb+2PlYHHCPuD8vZRZCyZlZE6qg2c4ZDaNI2hGcWZI50cqXE4KME5+i8z T8x3+jfF6oGckuDvom9W6qe4tQGl9efeCabHA5TPuujyMQG6905y/pJ4qI3LNKlla63m ww71H1I4dbNjrSNTfLOe8mYFT/3uNfsk6pNbyJQyL0Pmn0Icf33GUKFHynnTL7S4NyXz SnEw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :mime-version; bh=MkvJ2jDdRRfs7inEqGqk+6Ns2ROJQOCopiZFv9OfFB0=; b=ixx/kBij4K71D5S2iXc3agFOy9AemURfZs0mXACKVPX5vquxCLb8Z7xZTIthcyn8u6 6Gn05z0erIkdVMxERepr/OXyozD9Dzzna2B75v7dhrZWxfPSGPbZKoTf2ylk8qolyDrQ VZeuF+Eaeoz/4h6U/nAgQaTuZFPWKVL5CqRyVn0s21G7SmHYOAKfHrEbGBcTDBMfH/xa R+FnT3X9mzCmaKS7l5BmGB+rgYQz/q0Se1t/Aah8nWRu2i+9NshjBOLPQfXr8ik47DDn fCa3YjKtWPGfoadkV3RPBWrIPUdagLex7HgPCfqX90Uq/Y9nEM4ZIZ1O7voM/jpW7zqN Zkgw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531VCnp2cEALePUPRZjcHLYabz60M0049D7ky8NJ7QrihvleQfcm Mc8GI0z13LXG23g+oM3S8QXcP6pA5Uc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxo5kRAKeu/YFOgxc/3H2AEAHyH5N47ZQS388ssl3qu2IJtX+IQiqLR1CbEnQk4fFw98A9GNg== X-Received: by 2002:a7b:c24a:: with SMTP id b10mr31704655wmj.166.1638132881991; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 12:54:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from carbon.localdomain ([2a01:e0a:245:c850:98f5:429a:aa8e:95bb]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 4sm15140722wrz.90.2021.11.28.12.54.41 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 28 Nov 2021 12:54:41 -0800 (PST) From: Matthias Meulien Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2021 21:54:39 +0100 Message-ID: <87bl24knlc.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a00:1450:4864:20::329 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::329; envelope-from=orontee@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x329.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -12 X-Spam_score: -1.3 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, PDS_HP_HELO_NORDNS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) 1. Open a "project" file, say emacs in ~/Sources/emacs/lisp/outline.el where ~/Sources/emacs contains GNU Emacs sources 2. From the buffer visiting outline.el, start reading mail with gnus 3. Switch back to outline.el buffer and call project-kill-buffers 4. Gnus buffers like *Group*, .newsrc-dribble, etc. are killed. This is unexpected. I've seen that the default-directory of *Group*, .newsrc-dribble, etc. buffers is ~/Sources/emacs/lisp. But the project-kill-buffers logic is based on buffer default-directory having the project root as prefix. Thus *Group*, .newsrc-dribble, etc. buffers are killed by project-kill-buffers. In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 3, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.24, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2021-11-27 built on carbon Repository revision: 338f7802373f1cfcc1b3749bbd46091fdef727f4 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12011000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) Configured using: 'configure --with-native-compilation' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XDBE XIM XPM GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: fr_FR.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: ELisp/l Minor modes in effect: bug-reference-prog-mode: t display-line-numbers-mode: t highlight-changes-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t minions-mode: t global-company-mode: t company-mode: t outline-minor-mode: t 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move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process native-compile emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 2441288 968693) (symbols 48 52799 45) (strings 32 380048 37832) (string-bytes 1 13137332) (vectors 16 119634) (vector-slots 8 2757532 884272) (floats 8 764 2067) (intervals 56 218793 3395) (buffers 992 165)) -- Matthias From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:43:51 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#52168: 29.0.50; Gnus buffers unexpectedly killed by project-kill-buffers Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 15:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52168 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Matthias Meulien Cc: Philip K , 52168@debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov Received: via spool by 52168-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52168.163819969724837 (code B ref 52168); Mon, 29 Nov 2021 15:29:01 +0000 Received: (at 52168) by 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Jeff Parker & Money Mark)" Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 16:27:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87bl24knlc.fsf@gmail.com> (Matthias Meulien's message of "Sun, 28 Nov 2021 21:54:39 +0100") Message-ID: <87sfvfvv5v.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Matthias Meulien writes: > 1. Open a "project" file, say emacs in ~/Sources/emacs/lisp/outline.el > where ~/Sources/emacs contains GNU Emacs sources > > 2. From the buffer visiting outline.el, start reading mail with gnus > > [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Matthias Meulien writes: > 1. Open a "project" file, say emacs in ~/Sources/emacs/lisp/outline.el > where ~/Sources/emacs contains GNU Emacs sources > > 2. From the buffer visiting outline.el, start reading mail with gnus > > 3. Switch back to outline.el buffer and call project-kill-buffers > > 4. Gnus buffers like *Group*, .newsrc-dribble, etc. are killed. This is > unexpected. I've added Philip and Dmitry to the CCs; perhaps they some comments. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:43:51 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#52168: 29.0.50; Gnus buffers unexpectedly killed by project-kill-buffers Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2021 13:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52168 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Matthias Meulien Cc: Philip Kaludercic , 52168@debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov Received: via spool by 52168-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52168.163827846229010 (code B ref 52168); Tue, 30 Nov 2021 13:22:02 +0000 Received: (at 52168) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Nov 2021 13:21:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40406 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ms34A-0007Xp-K9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 08:21:02 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:41448) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ms348-0007X2-9b for 52168@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 08:21:00 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ly1qY7PcsZuTzh/dInYTzG5U+n1olHmlfHga0HiBE4I=; b=ftKDiBuo0VJbmZ+6oXRaeNJeHJ lP68/tQKRXEExhEHu4NOEE6HYIYFbMMFDNv3/GIebbPYpTVc9t4xT7SOQNSXTGe7Nl+/Hdnukb3H3 3wbB71flevEkSvZWxSb9Y97Wx2RTC6OnAZwJWSmiQb32SdWucG26jWJz7sA2UkZ9gV+w=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ms33z-0006T5-VA; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 14:20:54 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87bl24knlc.fsf@gmail.com> <87sfvfvv5v.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: Irreversible Entanglements's _Open The Gates_: "Keys to Creation" Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2021 14:20:51 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87sfvfvv5v.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 29 Nov 2021 16:27:56 +0100") Message-ID: <875ys9pyoc.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Matthias Meulien writes: > >> 1. Open a "project" file, say emacs in ~/Sources/emacs/lisp/outline.el >> where ~/Sources/emacs contains GNU Emacs sources >> >> 2. From the buffer [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Matthias Meulien writes: > >> 1. Open a "project" file, say emacs in ~/Sources/emacs/lisp/outline.el >> where ~/Sources/emacs contains GNU Emacs sources >> >> 2. From the buffer visiting outline.el, start reading mail with gnus >> >> 3. Switch back to outline.el buffer and call project-kill-buffers >> >> 4. Gnus buffers like *Group*, .newsrc-dribble, etc. are killed. This is >> unexpected. > > I've added Philip and Dmitry to the CCs; perhaps they some comments. The address I used for Philip bounced; trying again with a different address. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:43:51 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#52168: 29.0.50; Gnus buffers unexpectedly killed by project-kill-buffers Resent-From: Philip Kaludercic Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2021 18:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52168 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: Philip Kaludercic , 52168@debbugs.gnu.org, Matthias Meulien , Dmitry Gutov Received: via spool by 52168-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52168.163829838228227 (code B ref 52168); Tue, 30 Nov 2021 18:54:02 +0000 Received: (at 52168) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Nov 2021 18:53:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42491 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ms8FR-0007L8-Mt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 13:53:02 -0500 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:59941) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ms8FP-0007Kt-50 for 52168@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 13:53:00 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FAE5240105 for <52168@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 19:52:51 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1638298372; bh=fPzXVXXKkUqXKhxzxkW+3Kh9F8BBJoji+D7Pmc7dhjc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=O/C+0ixhQpe+cmFKSxCoYDOVK8AAF/DBjfGclXGoSoO6IK30kBDOfO5CWPhY7dfPW eh8iSA2feFu15rMlcRkBGY+J8WDcXxghbnORPNIM5zPit3+0HMiEB8CO0EyJ7HrLMR SdrgVbzpORu0rEJBA1/c7PE4EM+v+YB2fwcjRsUh31BJRmXmVo5PG7mGk93sTJIcbX BlE+0DD24xOKghvjnRZF98mMVBsc7WTWosxHSpmrMlocVz3kuHnfeDJ/yUQwHNP2JT SRa8iAVsAKghy1oE+g96jciSjtqrI58JBjzRjAkJjTmmVp+y6eYrbuGb4Ds4u+iG3p Bf7KMtlkZ6YZA== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4J3WYv0kyMz9rxG; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 19:52:51 +0100 (CET) From: Philip Kaludercic In-Reply-To: Philip Kaludercic's message of "(unknown date)" References: <87bl24knlc.fsf@gmail.com> <87sfvfvv5v.fsf@gnus.org> <875ys9pyoc.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2021 18:52:38 +0000 Message-ID: <87sfvdmq6h.fsf@posteo.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) (I'm not sure if my last message got sent out, so I'm sending this again) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> >>> Matthias Meulien writes: >>> >>>> 1. Open a "project" file, say emacs in ~/Sources/emacs/lisp/outline.el >>>> where ~/Sources/emacs contains GNU Emacs sources >>>> >>>> 2. From the buffer visiting outline.el, start reading mail with gnus >>>> >>>> 3. Switch back to outline.el buffer and call project-kill-buffers >>>> >>>> 4. Gnus buffers like *Group*, .newsrc-dribble, etc. are killed. This is >>>> unexpected. >>> >>> I've added Philip and Dmitry to the CCs; perhaps they some comments. >> >> The address I used for Philip bounced; trying again with a different >> address. To fix issues like this was the intention behind adding project-kill-buffer-conditions (that is yet to be generalised). What I believe is happening here is that the *Group* buffer is being matched by this condition (and (derived-mode . special-mode) (not (major-mode . help-mode))) because `gnus-group-mode' derives `special-mode' via `gnus-mode'. .newsrc-dribble matches both buffer-file-name and (major-mode . fundamental-mode) at least on my system. Fixing this specific issue should be possible by just adjusting project-kill-buffer-conditions, but it is probably desirable to think about how this can be avoided in general, without loosing the actual intended functionality of project-kill-buffers. -- Philip Kaludercic From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:43:51 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#52168: 29.0.50; Gnus buffers unexpectedly killed by project-kill-buffers Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2021 04:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52168 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Philip Kaludercic Cc: 52168@debbugs.gnu.org, Matthias Meulien , Dmitry Gutov Received: via spool by 52168-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52168.163833276422453 (code B ref 52168); Wed, 01 Dec 2021 04:27:01 +0000 Received: (at 52168) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Dec 2021 04:26:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42956 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1msHC0-0005q5-6l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 23:26:04 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:48784) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1msHBz-0005pa-4o for 52168@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 23:26:03 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=3FWigSOzOfzTyzl/wrJZEhehFXvSoYM2UWxwPN5Yxnw=; b=UpvQqfqs44EGED49X9hkJoktTm GMAfdj6puLsigIx6ap91XHN7woYsG0FRmeYf9n6AtZtXwZiZ28fU7yfUXxFQG+L4w3l7XfRM116gK otgh0LPKRXry6MG2AE5N5twDB6Wublj2Zw715Ktzz3dAVOCRri9Y/eZa4xwPksYIN9ek=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1msHBq-00044R-3Z; Wed, 01 Dec 2021 05:25:57 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87bl24knlc.fsf@gmail.com> <87sfvfvv5v.fsf@gnus.org> <875ys9pyoc.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfvdmq6h.fsf@posteo.de> X-Now-Playing: Kid606's _Recollected Ambient Works Vol. 1: Bored of Excitement_: "B Minor" Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2021 05:25:53 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87sfvdmq6h.fsf@posteo.de> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Tue, 30 Nov 2021 18:52:38 +0000") Message-ID: <87a6hlar3i.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Philip Kaludercic writes: > To fix issues like this was the intention behind adding > project-kill-buffer-conditions (that is yet to be generalised). What I > believe is happening here is that the *Group* buffer is being match [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Philip Kaludercic writes: > To fix issues like this was the intention behind adding > project-kill-buffer-conditions (that is yet to be generalised). What I > believe is happening here is that the *Group* buffer is being matched by > this condition > > (and (derived-mode . special-mode) > (not (major-mode . help-mode))) > > because `gnus-group-mode' derives `special-mode' via > `gnus-mode'. .newsrc-dribble matches both > > buffer-file-name > > and > > (major-mode . fundamental-mode) > > at least on my system. Fixing this specific issue should be possible by > just adjusting project-kill-buffer-conditions, but it is probably > desirable to think about how this can be avoided in general, without > loosing the actual intended functionality of project-kill-buffers. I guess the issue is that it's pretty difficult to get an include-list here: ;; Most of the temp buffers in the background: (major-mode . fundamental-mode) ;; non-text buffer such as xref, occur, vc, log, ... (and (derived-mode . special-mode) (not (major-mode . help-mode))) But... 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Fri, 4 Nov 2022 23:50:32 +0100 (CET) From: Philip Kaludercic In-Reply-To: <87sfvfvv5v.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 29 Nov 2021 16:27:56 +0100") References: <87bl24knlc.fsf@gmail.com> <87sfvfvv5v.fsf@gnus.org> Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; keydata= mQGNBGLfygUBDADVznbke6w0n9nE42xb+ZggbBy0IYRkkru/K+NA67523YTl2DoR2a5OMW90w7L9 KDtX2Mp34JN/6jVOSVC07VUbHVu6/exoGKixkiTpGhBPy5tUUJoxQKqLrzVQhN3fIyvg1oyHXKZm QGkUeevV0wjj4++xfjmcP235YvDh3TF8HC9t5KxIQIbhWnQm4ZyDkpWWS2CmdNttlj2+eH+51WLL bgx2bcwTmqrs079Q3hgF3yh44bBEmp9MgFjiZldOY2my0/ZSeucRxYmiM0vbJEBQgZV/MvA3gTxe 7ibV3ii7AyoYA8FiFDP98S/R2y5Nfq3ez9B7qeqtpSNseQHOU7h8Y5VV01a71ZszENAmbbwsldb9 j+HRLke7rn6mswDZl1qA/9ZFRzliFOdQtS1878XjraY+h5jfjvxaFVK23prGGVrrKv0LPWavoFUr nsjeHEZhYezBKhC2PwvRtXm01S3rkNbwm9pj0tfLSDW+1pT+6eZWptfQCXF2oEvgfKSTASUAEQEA AbQmUGhpbGlwIEthbHVkZXJjaWMgPHBoaWxpcGtAcG9zdGVvLm5ldD6JAdQEEwEKAD4WIQRxJuHe LwzjXHcL7QHyw8xRPbifZgUCYt/KBQIbAwUJA8JnAAULCQgHAgYVCgkICwIEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAK CRDyw8xRPbifZkH+DACmCKmhrYgcv2i6dj3vRCVINaLtKUODTna/wAmP20WRKPhqvqvKNUx/wzpT aZrXIxpxOU2xawRWeHhWUktxS+W9L3xTACeR0gf5gomCxD9RuBTIohzWDkQt5rk8QwLqx5rAy5zo feXujnDCXkZtodo1m54cY2kUFF/WIYRrciL/EBzpcizybMJFwx4HxSBlGRkdwnSH9Dzo+4U+8ctB xDfTvQ7cK/0+Qz/TvKjUK8LXLN1/rJTmqpRDv+Odx9LaxutGGoXeLwmhhgpRhvUS8EsqHGF37Zxe AV/ybdVU4NHXVecZAhSgOXX4EHDa7NjhTihx9Id478aQycOKf3CiI6Z8AgcR/iKE4bD4osh2cqQB +JIBtktImxJ1vFsehdQVjdLPWqlr/1weMHM4xH/4VtCLOl5mO3K+fUWxQ/DGLXeQVZ+hilITSKMl YVH/7he26WGd9FRJR25t9uTSgL2YIG8xYppKXueyK/5zjHq05UZRFKiFuPTE4Daoemqx86vYlui5 AY0EYt/KBQEMANvhe1fPQ3BHBcE2GfdX9kVXV0uAP+2Be2DxKWPJI1SqZbrS4wSUsDdd2+2m4YMX E3d+K9Z6IqBcr5gMFSN9QKGEo91FYYgnqvtnd6n9sEAScfNri2GVJzlmXAtEAWeVlv83cu0v0Gsw rSKkxZfMxt+EodtN0aswf5SAy77t28NZUw4fk/0o0AlIMjByVcDkipn7N02gLHjYsvMGFFtM3Zqg Fps8ix3XytSg3Pf8hIVhXFGkBs/iN6dGeIs8wVWBsB7azdqE84uUSRAcS4ymqUE6KxsbNo4x8RAx 9Pt2fcL5bWURAZB+83dk8NVmoQdtY+d4JUV9RAKM/Qg/qtE0fVxcZnj8YmxB1NzLf0UxgHuGYtaq HWrB80CROxMzK7fH8yDRnQKHT2gJYMMQjzMwakSSk8bNJDGBTvAbnxSbYMUC3FR4Pz3pSAbsaSz6 LY0QHDRlroBpyJHatrtKh9Uf9nV0wPIKgZfaH2mhiU17/N6wx0W12cBhrTDRoSnTYIgvQQARAQAB iQG8BBgBCgAmFiEEcSbh3i8M41x3C+0B8sPMUT24n2YFAmLfygUCGwwFCQPCZwAACgkQ8sPMUT24 n2b4ogv/Z5HKvWT2hB238G0ZrUxBptNdQHSG3VwfghN30KH7AEW8ZxsDn3zckn/jXxob4VyhUC8d zZdBQstsNgl+NZ7S2JYRUEsIpoRiHnQFJnfPpt6YZMVNYHJkuh7zRIQGji4OoS8j9QdUHsJnQDia xElXx2vwcBTRZBybcNC+3scGgFBzAcrI4AhYjKZBj5lvKMTrWhK+o4bVdFaYTJDIq37MM3IQLzFF oPIB1C525V916wVYSVl7+RQ1T/mf9oX9kZcYVTC0g4KBEEDI4SGK0i5sKDLfBp4c91AFlUo/J8nC hUMWblnpfCC7epUEbrms0ZQE7RFLgy7YCLZ9Fx2JfV6gx9n9vH7kI605uLnTHgkw3uED/CKfVlbW v0Yrtvi0rUMunLnlySIpXItkSIK+PCqTMdLJ3rBe0ALPgbKN6Lu+yxfe0eaAmFbrNZFI0xp40403 gDwhwoq742fLwbxPSldSeb8A93KRg/8e92CMwKVYtxoADeoksMq10iid4POQl2vw Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2022 22:50:32 +0000 Message-ID: <878rkql4g7.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Matthias Meulien writes: > >> 1. Open a "project" file, say emacs in ~/Sources/emacs/lisp/outline.el >> where ~/Sources/emacs contains GNU Emacs sources >> >> 2. From the buffer visiting outline.el, start reading mail with gnus >> >> 3. Switch back to outline.el buffer and call project-kill-buffers >> >> 4. Gnus buffers like *Group*, .newsrc-dribble, etc. are killed. This is >> unexpected. > > I've added Philip and Dmitry to the CCs; perhaps they some comments. Has the issue been addressed with ef45bfacb2157f6cb6e9d306b5ad8e3e219d03f8? 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On 01.12.2021 06:25, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > But... I think this is way too dangerous -- I think you really have to > come up with a include-list instead of going after fundamental-mode and > special-mode buffers. We're talking about this now in bug#58839.