From unknown Mon Aug 18 18:03:42 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#52122: mv: deletes src file on error Resent-From: Frank Busse Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 11:10:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 52122 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 52122@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.163792499822893 (code B ref -1); Fri, 26 Nov 2021 11:10:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Nov 2021 11:09:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58804 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mqZ77-0005xA-VM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 06:09:58 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:55524) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mqZ76-0005x3-SC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 06:09:57 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48490) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mqZ73-0007If-U7 for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 06:09:56 -0500 Received: from smtp2.cc.ic.ac.uk ([146.179.32.42]:33358) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mqZ6z-0000ul-JQ for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 06:09:53 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=imperial.ac.uk; s=main01; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ZB70eay7qwY/AYHzvAZMEbMRihzLV7bS2LXjjzsgdGE=; b=NK2fZqVL7LYcaB6WYTjyIg/EJI 53VSygquvPNA+PP37JHG038ShZgbEfyHnO/wxL6Mca22FbNqp51THIh1xNRr2zUc6htuM3QKaPzj2 +EAzJzw22KxebP919oIDCUKQO3m9hg/pGnURPVP0Wl9AVWpLmxi1i/k3+OWv7arAUsLA=; Received: from [2a0c:5bc0:40:10c0:de09:9143:338:e0b7] (helo=gyali) by smtp2.cc.ic.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1mqZ6p-0002Wy-Nt for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 11:09:39 +0000 Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 11:07:09 +0000 From: Frank Busse Message-ID: <20211126110709.67da497a@gyali> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.0.0 (GTK+ 3.24.30; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IC-MsgID: 1mqZ6p-0002Wy-Nt Received-SPF: pass client-ip=146.179.32.42; envelope-from=f.busse@imperial.ac.uk; helo=smtp2.cc.ic.ac.uk X-Spam_score_int: -50 X-Spam_score: -5.1 X-Spam_bar: ----- X-Spam_report: (-5.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.702, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Hi, Given two files: an old version of "foo" on a mounted USB stick: /mnt/dst/foo and a new version of "foo" in /src/foo on the system's hard drive. When I do: sudo mv /src/foo /mnt/dst/foo I get the following error: mv: failed to preserve ownership for '/mnt/dst/foo': Operation not permitted The error is fine but mv deletes /src/foo and keeps mnt/dst/foo, meaning that the data of the new file is lost. Is this the intended behaviour? I'm using Coreutils 9.0. Kind regards, Frank From unknown Mon Aug 18 18:03:42 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#52122: mv: deletes src file on error Resent-From: Chris Elvidge Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 12:06:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52122 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Frank Busse , 52122@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 52122-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52122.163792833229214 (code B ref 52122); Fri, 26 Nov 2021 12:06:01 +0000 Received: (at 52122) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Nov 2021 12:05:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58854 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mqZyu-0007b8-AV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 07:05:32 -0500 Received: from mail-wm1-f53.google.com ([209.85.128.53]:33435) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mqZys-0007aw-MK for 52122@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 07:05:31 -0500 Received: by mail-wm1-f53.google.com with SMTP id r9-20020a7bc089000000b00332f4abf43fso7422173wmh.0 for <52122@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 04:05:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=02uysdGVWRoNLYRy2ED/CvkRCBQ6N4jOKHVSHDiJdcc=; b=eUf/Mdye7+G/VWJm6PRH9TjtOo2y+ujz5peS9SrxZcQJYNUmVx7pTtZ+bepvznA6Rn YRwetrSMn8x2jUHvKdJx28z5fc5vVC2UYRY3vJp53NO184LYsi3WsQgdzGvSLqDY5CLl eX5JlvDOOvfj2Ub8WWSFOPdekC/OrX5fp/rBvA3wr4G1aUyxLF1tbr7I7X3mJsyN5/iu kGEI1TA2mM7T39t/CejJvTsIDMnMc72d4IYAn9lJFEbxw+oDCueyaJGV6ESIGBhtAc64 3YxdtXc3oTvSmlwwZ6DtI9jLJlZGGV67raBsPsDiq5LWvSFr7PgXxPlRHoTtaE9i+951 RHsg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=02uysdGVWRoNLYRy2ED/CvkRCBQ6N4jOKHVSHDiJdcc=; b=3YUp4EyY6TfLBAQ2Jksq1o1HWcbd3HOR/uVUC9IDQ1sdaARy18ni7qlJjJFDkTf54l 84djSAGCC1XWPzFyyaWwCbAyxqWx+8g1J2sLNgB0Eu7y0UtMYCB4OnZzrNmkgpajCMaM SIAG/J0NteSK21zAHcehpki/DuEtFn5OguF3Erc6jpIPZ5MVtjvFFyyQ7x4gCywcVdvx PUJG9hVhCRT1CEruodH6NNeuVcfLOMUpoR10x0WcCaKmBmhj3vL91HaRcejz1JEyxD0G wq5k/CZxNVSpBWnNVv95YDGJtbaIyfBL/h6reXHrn2ss9McUCAYoMyvYK2vphM81VIRq +qLg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532c2TDnuFlCq4AlHdcC/EWLwo269EUO+tVjfuKGAAbimHa5Z4eR 4U9vqeGogCZBnNcedYFc+3OotXPbs2E= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz/G7d/gyBd/Hk42gy9KxGmwDshypV55cAzy/WJRXUN9GKdaTQduzXlU+u8IXIUedT2HY7Nbw== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:4b07:: with SMTP id y7mr14663980wma.188.1637928324926; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 04:05:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.23.100] (92.40.168.132.threembb.co.uk. [92.40.168.132]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j17sm8169066wmq.41.2021.11.26.04.05.23 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 26 Nov 2021 04:05:24 -0800 (PST) References: <20211126110709.67da497a@gyali> From: Chris Elvidge Message-ID: <9beffdb3-50ff-0d36-6543-363e82933e31@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 12:05:21 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 Lightning/5.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20211126110709.67da497a@gyali> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) On 26/11/2021 11:07 am, Frank Busse wrote: > Hi, > > > Given two files: an old version of "foo" on a mounted USB stick: > > /mnt/dst/foo > > and a new version of "foo" in /src/foo on the system's hard drive. When > I do: > > sudo mv /src/foo /mnt/dst/foo > > I get the following error: > > mv: failed to preserve ownership for '/mnt/dst/foo': Operation not permitted > Is your USB stick (V)FAT(32) (or similar) formatted? > The error is fine but mv deletes /src/foo and keeps mnt/dst/foo, > meaning that the data of the new file is lost. Is this the intended > behaviour? I'm using Coreutils 9.0. Didn't reproduce this (as root). mv (GNU coreutils) 8.32.179-c7577 > > > Kind regards, > > Frank > > > > -- Chris Elvidge From unknown Mon Aug 18 18:03:42 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#52122: mv: deletes src file on error Resent-From: Frank Busse Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 12:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52122 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Chris Elvidge Cc: 52122@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 52122-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52122.163792959131228 (code B ref 52122); Fri, 26 Nov 2021 12:27:02 +0000 Received: (at 52122) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Nov 2021 12:26:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58865 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mqaJD-00087c-FV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 07:26:31 -0500 Received: from smtp1.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.31.74]:37276) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mqaJB-00087K-Bc for 52122@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 07:26:30 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=imperial.ac.uk; s=main01; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=nK1gh72QPX2XxyKKR2bOeY+BYFuw/y6RP4dgw2yDRMY=; b=xt0PLTm/KNMqnuoyDZDSec5nVp kifjqe6jSQUu1+eVuF5hiOQqPqquTw4gi2I0Mp7IRhYVHymyLZxZJXogdNaBNbT+O9Eq18uRrcWnx 3CcR0ZSLWYjOJ8J3IbyaSQSG94WAp2ZTADL9qnn8zB/8fqYIKxeHS3EJQEf1M82ARaaY=; Received: from [2a0c:5bc0:40:10c0:de09:9143:338:e0b7] (helo=gyali) by smtp1.cc.ic.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1mqaJ4-0002DT-7C; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 12:26:22 +0000 Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 12:23:52 +0000 From: Frank Busse Message-ID: <20211126122352.6002067e@gyali> In-Reply-To: <9beffdb3-50ff-0d36-6543-363e82933e31@gmail.com> References: <20211126110709.67da497a@gyali> <9beffdb3-50ff-0d36-6543-363e82933e31@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.0.0 (GTK+ 3.24.30; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IC-MsgID: 1mqaJ4-0002DT-7C X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 12:05:21 +0000 Chris Elvidge wrote: > Is your USB stick (V)FAT(32) (or similar) formatted? It's FAT32. > > The error is fine but mv deletes /src/foo and keeps mnt/dst/foo, > > meaning that the data of the new file is lost. Is this the intended > > behaviour? I'm using Coreutils 9.0. > > Didn't reproduce this (as root). > mv (GNU coreutils) 8.32.179-c7577 I tried it several times with checking the timestamps/md5sums of the files but after remounting the stick it doesn't happen anymore?! I guess it was a hiccup somewhere else in the system, sorry. Kind regards, Frank From unknown Mon Aug 18 18:03:42 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#52122: mv: deletes src file on error Resent-From: Bernhard Voelker Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 17:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52122 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Frank Busse , Chris Elvidge Cc: 52122@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 52122-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52122.163794930527120 (code B ref 52122); Fri, 26 Nov 2021 17:56:02 +0000 Received: (at 52122) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Nov 2021 17:55:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60533 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mqfRB-00073M-5k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 12:55:05 -0500 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.13]:54921) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mqfR8-00072m-Lu for 52122@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 12:55:04 -0500 Received: from [192.168.101.10] ([91.1.221.176]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MhUHt-1mMGIm30qJ-00eakZ; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 18:54:55 +0100 Message-ID: <1235123c-e4ae-8c8f-bbb5-c68f72535765@bernhard-voelker.de> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 18:54:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.3.0 Content-Language: en-US References: <20211126110709.67da497a@gyali> <9beffdb3-50ff-0d36-6543-363e82933e31@gmail.com> <20211126122352.6002067e@gyali> From: Bernhard Voelker In-Reply-To: <20211126122352.6002067e@gyali> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:0tueEOYyZdoGxFyGxtwDdFaLWlaqzAvOIF0TaMTGy/qrmugasf4 09Uv/zTtcGDkbIp1mDXkIkLMxEySga0hOTMed0dSONnctN9M4d7F6qUuai6C6ZTEJkaK7rz 7yhm+ZwyseFvcjBO9cvY33XlngtRQA6mxN9hCZ5/TsPUiMmpf28FJ+FNyeReXjU8j7hi+nH qkwmeI5dh6nQTt8WucvRQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:5xIHfzTMXAs=:WIdgo32q+GPoRpSlPitXrH 5CfwkcsK+OVm4XNhGFis4o2w8hkT7tCIyR0rzvQ7vjoJfuWal8G62yI8LyS4R8BluWaTkO0Ie c0+oonOPC0vjfbTU17St0iLTV8jIxctEmb0qN53VCSEtVSwi0J24PQDCLu4pgSQFvw4ZYyt/Y 1HrAQOhPdE5e7sLcrb/wEqrNemOP9lgWDcDSbYazvQVsgoXzBTUvaVSSbrLOWshCwQmCRblid 6Vfi6Z1UxibiJwVdyhu0o+5cCRadJUsaiy5I2j2CexsK5xx8KSmB13qt3qUifwTdJFo41yTvS VNrGsEoLw7UmcC/6Fif6gNerAKeCaluNN56P3H7D9UvSE//VdIP3NeWQzNNJ/KUop98KxArE+ A1Cy8ciaHIB5d6nSKnvb3vFWjxuD9ItTul0NLk6yJGLiKM+VDHcJy9QOhIFwW0mOvJYsgOqGq JoxbBrBhOpHZVlV6l3N2cacl7ddMJmP7zbwvdoMMwJkkerk723eRVWE0VhbW398jGHK0wCLeJ 2WGL9hP89LNNTFW0ptutqgXqyz9eP6xlOol9xSQDxdULCw7OFF7oMyZPXez80Bp4deSW7b9Wu 8+yP2yH+8LW6h+miRkxFqSO0Ics9yaDYaaOXi3ucx5OFhQB1UAIYeLsCg+Z6nIfcrrrTYmcfY MJIb0Bzvid/f4mRQimTzEOY2UMj7ru9xQ7fUy8fC3Im0TZa/F3BRuKVBZ4SsG3T9fWSuQ/OtH pZT9ytyhij5PKtQI X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) On 11/26/21 13:23, Frank Busse wrote: > I tried it several times with checking the timestamps/md5sums of the > files but after remounting the stick it doesn't happen anymore?! I > guess it was a hiccup somewhere else in the system, sorry. Perhaps the USB stick was removed from the system before the kernel could flush the data? Have a nice day, Berny From unknown Mon Aug 18 18:03:42 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Frank Busse Subject: bug#52122: closed (Re: bug#52122: mv: deletes src file on error) Message-ID: References: <9dd8c2ea-ad1f-487c-0a61-21713933e34a@cs.ucla.edu> <20211126110709.67da497a@gyali> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 52122 X-Gnu-PR-Package: coreutils Reply-To: 52122@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 18:19:01 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1637950741-29546-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1637950741-29546-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #52122: mv: deletes src file on error which was filed against the coreutils package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 52122@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 52122: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D52122 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1637950741-29546-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 52122-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Nov 2021 18:18:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60542 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mqfoE-0007gF-DK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 13:18:54 -0500 Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:41628) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mqfoC-0007fx-6x for 52122-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 13:18:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17190160100; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 10:18:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id yXTSsabMAwkS; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 10:18:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C77160103; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 10:18:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id DSkz6m93Mmrv; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 10:18:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (cpe-172-91-119-151.socal.res.rr.com [172.91.119.151]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4E01E160100; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 10:18:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9dd8c2ea-ad1f-487c-0a61-21713933e34a@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 10:18:44 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.3.1 Subject: Re: bug#52122: mv: deletes src file on error Content-Language: en-US To: Frank Busse , Chris Elvidge References: <20211126110709.67da497a@gyali> <9beffdb3-50ff-0d36-6543-363e82933e31@gmail.com> <20211126122352.6002067e@gyali> From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department In-Reply-To: <20211126122352.6002067e@gyali> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52122-done Cc: 52122-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) On 11/26/21 04:23, Frank Busse wrote: > I > guess it was a hiccup somewhere else in the system, sorry. Thanks for following up; closing the bug report. ------------=_1637950741-29546-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Nov 2021 11:09:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58804 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mqZ77-0005xA-VM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 06:09:58 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:55524) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mqZ76-0005x3-SC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 06:09:57 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48490) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mqZ73-0007If-U7 for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 06:09:56 -0500 Received: from smtp2.cc.ic.ac.uk ([146.179.32.42]:33358) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mqZ6z-0000ul-JQ for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 06:09:53 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=imperial.ac.uk; s=main01; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ZB70eay7qwY/AYHzvAZMEbMRihzLV7bS2LXjjzsgdGE=; b=NK2fZqVL7LYcaB6WYTjyIg/EJI 53VSygquvPNA+PP37JHG038ShZgbEfyHnO/wxL6Mca22FbNqp51THIh1xNRr2zUc6htuM3QKaPzj2 +EAzJzw22KxebP919oIDCUKQO3m9hg/pGnURPVP0Wl9AVWpLmxi1i/k3+OWv7arAUsLA=; Received: from [2a0c:5bc0:40:10c0:de09:9143:338:e0b7] (helo=gyali) by smtp2.cc.ic.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1mqZ6p-0002Wy-Nt for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 11:09:39 +0000 Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 11:07:09 +0000 From: Frank Busse To: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Subject: mv: deletes src file on error Message-ID: <20211126110709.67da497a@gyali> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.0.0 (GTK+ 3.24.30; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IC-MsgID: 1mqZ6p-0002Wy-Nt Received-SPF: pass client-ip=146.179.32.42; envelope-from=f.busse@imperial.ac.uk; helo=smtp2.cc.ic.ac.uk X-Spam_score_int: -50 X-Spam_score: -5.1 X-Spam_bar: ----- X-Spam_report: (-5.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.702, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Hi, Given two files: an old version of "foo" on a mounted USB stick: /mnt/dst/foo and a new version of "foo" in /src/foo on the system's hard drive. When I do: sudo mv /src/foo /mnt/dst/foo I get the following error: mv: failed to preserve ownership for '/mnt/dst/foo': Operation not permitted The error is fine but mv deletes /src/foo and keeps mnt/dst/foo, meaning that the data of the new file is lost. Is this the intended behaviour? I'm using Coreutils 9.0. Kind regards, Frank ------------=_1637950741-29546-1-- From unknown Mon Aug 18 18:03:42 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#52122: mv: deletes src file on error Resent-From: Frank Busse Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 19:02:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52122 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Bernhard Voelker Cc: Chris Elvidge , 52122@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 52122-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52122.16379533211656 (code B ref 52122); Fri, 26 Nov 2021 19:02:02 +0000 Received: (at 52122) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Nov 2021 19:02:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60560 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mqgTx-0000Qd-AV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 14:02:01 -0500 Received: from smtp2.cc.ic.ac.uk ([146.179.32.42]:52974) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mqgTv-0000QH-Gh for 52122@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 14:02:00 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=imperial.ac.uk; s=main01; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=mTVPNTisOiOL9qA3lycSdaO0N3lZ3QAXoWQe6vZdT5Y=; b=levISbZJGwhnhPoU5LWwLCr204 v7KODrnOXC7E8oNphuhLvDAgYEoyZXzp5jeTwgYjQc+gvBSt1LqlJTjgMfI3OYR6o87lAje8nrDPP tweUaQUqW54QBQjlI6Mw3hSHfrIY+lM2kEgtx7UeSzNEc0nGgwva3vMzwk9UUlHwKJUo=; Received: from [2a0c:5bc0:40:10c0:de09:9143:338:e0b7] (helo=gyali) by smtp2.cc.ic.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1mqgTn-0005pJ-LS; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 19:01:51 +0000 Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 18:59:22 +0000 From: Frank Busse Message-ID: <20211126185922.00a44aa4@gyali> In-Reply-To: <1235123c-e4ae-8c8f-bbb5-c68f72535765@bernhard-voelker.de> References: <20211126110709.67da497a@gyali> <9beffdb3-50ff-0d36-6543-363e82933e31@gmail.com> <20211126122352.6002067e@gyali> <1235123c-e4ae-8c8f-bbb5-c68f72535765@bernhard-voelker.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.0.0 (GTK+ 3.24.30; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IC-MsgID: 1mqgTn-0005pJ-LS X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 18:54:54 +0100 Bernhard Voelker wrote: > On 11/26/21 13:23, Frank Busse wrote: > > I tried it several times with checking the timestamps/md5sums of the > > files but after remounting the stick it doesn't happen anymore?! I > > guess it was a hiccup somewhere else in the system, sorry. > > Perhaps the USB stick was removed from the system before the kernel > could flush the data? No, I tried it several times with the stick still mounted. Strangely enough, copying with a different name worked fine. Maybe a kernel or hardware issue - no idea. Best, Frank