From unknown Mon Jun 23 04:09:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#52073: remove Google support from GVFS? 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A few weeks ago I had to remove GVFS from my system because WebKitGTK was failing to build. Then again if I had to connect to Google Drive or Picasa or whatever I'd rather do it through libre software, so maybe it should stay. Too bad we still don't have package options. So, what do yall think, should I just create a custom package on my own channel that disables all that junk, or is this something everyone wants? ps.: if any GVFS devs are reading this, the bug that caused me to almost delete my entire file system is still unaddressed. :) https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gvfs/-/issues/202 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gvfs/-/issues/364 From unknown Mon Jun 23 04:09:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#52073: remove Google support from GVFS? 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A few weeks ago I had to remove GVFS from my system > because WebKitGTK was failing to build. Can you explain the connection between libre software guidelines (FSDG), GVFS, and WebKitGTK? If the problem was simply that the WebKitGTK package was broken for a few days, I'm sorry, that was my mistake. > Then again if I had to connect to Google Drive or Picasa or whatever > I'd rather do it through libre software, so maybe it should stay. GNU's position is that services are not "free" or "nonfree" in the way that software is. So, it shouldn't be a problem that Guix packages can use 3rd party services. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/network-services-arent-free-or-nonfree.en.html From unknown Mon Jun 23 04:09:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#52073: remove Google support from GVFS? 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Content preview: Am Mittwoch, den 24.11.2021, 12:33 -0500 schrieb Leo Famulari: > On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 06:00:15AM +0100, raingloom wrote: > > I'd love to say it's because I want the package to be more in line > > w [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.3 RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL RBL: Relay in Validity RPBL, https://senderscore.org/blocklistlookup/ [209.85.221.67 listed in bl.score.senderscore.com] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (liliana.prikler[at]gmail.com) 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.221.67 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [209.85.221.67 listed in wl.mailspike.net] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) Am Mittwoch, den 24.11.2021, 12:33 -0500 schrieb Leo Famulari: > On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 06:00:15AM +0100, raingloom wrote: > > I'd love to say it's because I want the package to be more in line > > with libre software guidelines, but honestly I just don't want > > WebKitGTK as a transitive input. A few weeks ago I had to remove > > GVFS from my system because WebKitGTK was failing to build. > > Can you explain the connection between libre software guidelines > (FSDG), GVFS, and WebKitGTK? > > If the problem was simply that the WebKitGTK package was broken for a > few days, I'm sorry, that was my mistake. Note that WebkitGTK is still broken on i686 (bug#51863). I could take some time out of my weekend to fix the issues I raised w.r.t. that patch or we could apply it as-is (though note that hasty as-is applications have not worked out too well for us in the recent past). I'm not sure whether raingloom is on i686 or x86_64, just wanted to point that out. Cheers From unknown Mon Jun 23 04:09:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#52073: remove Google support from GVFS? 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[85.127.52.93]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g9sm28696530wmq.22.2021.12.31.04.24.56 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 31 Dec 2021 04:24:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <811028be0e5f02ae949a36795bb49e1e506cc75f.camel@gmail.com> From: Liliana Marie Prikler Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 13:24:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <20211124060015.2326faf1@riseup.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.42.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi, Given that we have GNOME 40/41 on master right now with GVFS supporting Google as it did before, is this still relevant? Cheers From unknown Mon Jun 23 04:09:36 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: raingloom Subject: bug#52073: closed (Re: bug#52073: remove Google support from GVFS?) Message-ID: References: <20211124060015.2326faf1@riseup.net> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 52073 X-Gnu-PR-Package: guix Reply-To: 52073@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 18:14:01 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1640974441-5125-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1640974441-5125-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #52073: remove Google support from GVFS? which was filed against the guix package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 52073@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 52073: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D52073 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1640974441-5125-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 52073-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Dec 2021 18:13:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57420 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n3MPS-0001K2-CE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 13:13:46 -0500 Received: from wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.21]:45159) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n3MPP-0001Jj-Vb for 52073-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 13:13:45 -0500 Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4EE132015ED; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 13:13:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 31 Dec 2021 13:13:38 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=famulari.name; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:in-reply-to; s=mesmtp; bh=nIYQyDbVrtB5GbFgsD4K+HMP nuzrLiqx+GDKq2bwm4s=; b=nxzkP9iUIkZfHQ7OrumJS0xjqcVHmdrxeF3gdCtZ 3TAA6Rz7b86++7rWjp+RsTxQH67VCumdAD6srnNi6oybWkljY4MDDrgerbsoLMta skh72MYnffXLhVIWTwmvwHIVdxSiWKY/DQXmp55ps8lsLC/xLxLJGwtJuo3dr2dG r/g= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=nIYQyD bVrtB5GbFgsD4K+HMPnuzrLiqx+GDKq2bwm4s=; b=QVjeHhlAm6Q+hP4CvlV545 zTLfA51OJqTCPNHFgfFVshnOX23OFQ/nxGK2ee/ptroAm2zqANgKOWaAecMf4Dqo BdE/gu8kOBNSq5QOBIItuNBBwzUD5iCYCIynTPRd5M4MhOPkobrTttPvvAe38kPe ghDGROd/VeAUYLXSsqN6siwXFICeyrYH2prq7cjOFj9FILGwSgzhIco9cZUZmSLG nyOyzP9tXURyXiVBzYwXoQ/J86najMkEBl9oWYmStIL4k6HGNhdAL/4vD3prXxrs GX52dQd24YlOhYKzBA92H4/bjrxfFM+J09cjzLl7VGqTTLCF4sWX/G+CYN4Z4wQQ == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvuddruddvhedgudduvdcutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmd enucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujgesthdtredttddtvdenucfhrhhomhepnfgvohcu hfgrmhhulhgrrhhiuceolhgvohesfhgrmhhulhgrrhhirdhnrghmvgeqnecuggftrfgrth htvghrnhepvddvudegffefiedttdfhfedvuefhgfekieekgeekveetgefhfeetgfeguedu ffeinecuffhomhgrihhnpehgnhhurdhorhhgnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenuc frrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomheplhgvohesfhgrmhhulhgrrhhirdhnrghmvg X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 13:13:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 13:13:35 -0500 From: Leo Famulari To: Liliana Marie Prikler Subject: Re: bug#52073: remove Google support from GVFS? Message-ID: References: <20211124060015.2326faf1@riseup.net> <811028be0e5f02ae949a36795bb49e1e506cc75f.camel@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <811028be0e5f02ae949a36795bb49e1e506cc75f.camel@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52073-done Cc: 52073-done@debbugs.gnu.org, raingloom X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 01:24:55PM +0100, Liliana Marie Prikler wrote: > Given that we have GNOME 40/41 on master right now with GVFS supporting > Google as it did before, is this still relevant? Since the bug report was a reaction to WebKitGTK being broken, and it's no longer broken, I'm closing the ticket [0]. When packages break occasionally, we have to decide if we should remove them from the distro or if we can should try maintain the status quo. My experience with WebKitGTK is that the build is quite reliable. That's why I pushed the broken update to begin with: it always worked in the past. There's no need to rewrite the dependency graph just because I was lazy and don't have a very fast computer. [0] Anyone can reopen it by sending a message with "reopen 52073" to . https://debbugs.gnu.org/server-control.html ------------=_1640974441-5125-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2021 05:00:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52718 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mpkOS-0002Fi-8G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Nov 2021 00:00:28 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:35844) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mpkOP-0002FX-M9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Nov 2021 00:00:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42936) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mpkOP-0005W6-BG for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Nov 2021 00:00:25 -0500 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:51612) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mpkON-0007zU-Ij for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Nov 2021 00:00:24 -0500 Received: from fews1.riseup.net (fews1-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.riseup.net", Issuer "R3" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HzTN641XSzF43q for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2021 21:00:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1637730022; bh=8nSYJKl0L5tRzPIxZVckjBHdGYGkfsoOmKlTObekJyQ=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=AkSHkwVGG9Q0JE1CoWl4Oy6gLn8Pg7s04VN/pQE7tbu1BzffVWMQ13udfcwf23DLI paVqjtH/9rOj4pTth0R3UShFQr/jNTynR1xrDd0gVGP0LWN/gUUHt15CDBVBqb27zt mkCXL58nxlkcqVTZbcbD4lf+agJtr0lJA3+C8Vwc= X-Riseup-User-ID: E3B2F52BB64C6F360225E1DFF28046D88D63C55B1273D140A120848C95985703 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4HzTN56Hppz5vcc for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2021 21:00:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2021 06:00:15 +0100 From: raingloom To: Guix Bugs Subject: remove Google support from GVFS? Message-ID: <20211124060015.2326faf1@riseup.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=198.252.153.129; envelope-from=raingloom@riseup.net; helo=mx1.riseup.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) I'd love to say it's because I want the package to be more in line with libre software guidelines, but honestly I just don't want WebKitGTK as a transitive input. A few weeks ago I had to remove GVFS from my system because WebKitGTK was failing to build. Then again if I had to connect to Google Drive or Picasa or whatever I'd rather do it through libre software, so maybe it should stay. Too bad we still don't have package options. So, what do yall think, should I just create a custom package on my own channel that disables all that junk, or is this something everyone wants? ps.: if any GVFS devs are reading this, the bug that caused me to almost delete my entire file system is still unaddressed. :) https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gvfs/-/issues/202 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gvfs/-/issues/364 ------------=_1640974441-5125-1-- From unknown Mon Jun 23 04:09:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#52073: remove Google support from GVFS? Resent-From: Mark H Weaver Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 22:14:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52073 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Leo Famulari , Liliana Marie Prikler Cc: 52073@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 52073-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52073.16409887869484 (code B ref 52073); Fri, 31 Dec 2021 22:14:02 +0000 Received: (at 52073) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Dec 2021 22:13:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57554 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n3Q8z-0002SZ-Ve for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 17:13:06 -0500 Received: from world.peace.net ([64.112.178.59]:43586) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n3Q8v-0002SA-Uz for 52073@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 17:13:01 -0500 Received: from mhw by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n3Q8n-0000E7-TU; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 17:12:50 -0500 From: Mark H Weaver In-Reply-To: References: <20211124060015.2326faf1@riseup.net> <811028be0e5f02ae949a36795bb49e1e506cc75f.camel@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 17:12:11 -0500 Message-ID: <87czlcmnjd.fsf@netris.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Leo, Leo Famulari writes: > My experience with WebKitGTK is that the build is quite reliable. That's > why I pushed the broken update to begin with: it always worked in the > past. That might be true of _micro_ version updates of WebKitGTK, but it's certainly false for non-micro updates. I thought you would have known to treat those two kinds of updates differently. In fact, if you look at the commit log over the last few years, you'll see that 8 out of the last 10 non-micro updates of WebKitGTK have required additional changes to the build recipe. Mark commit 3c5e1412e3ef769df8e4826d0aedabaa3aa0d631 Author: Leo Famulari Date: Tue Mar 30 13:30:28 2021 -0400 gnu: WebKitGTK: Update to 2.32.0 [fixes CVE-2021-{1788,1844,1871}]. * gnu/packages/webkit.scm (webkitgtk): Update to 2.32.0. [arguments]: Add -DENABLE_GAMEPAD=OFF to #:configure-flags. commit e6b6e834903f001d4f2ae9bf0511bf7953c0f80b Author: Mark H Weaver Date: Sun Sep 20 14:41:29 2020 -0400 gnu: webkitgtk: Update to 2.30.0. * gnu/packages/webkit.scm (webkitgtk): Update to 2.30.0. [arguments]: Add "-DUSE_SYSTEMD=OFF" to the configure flags. commit 3c9d89b5e2da2731ccc56a4cb745e1868175db79 Author: Leo Famulari Date: Fri Mar 13 12:32:33 2020 -0400 gnu: WebKitGTK: Update to 2.28.0 [fixes CVE-2020-10018]. * gnu/packages/webkit.scm (webkitgtk): Update to 2.28.0. commit 689b44bc3fe50de86c8c8b8c2ac503b2e82d7975 Author: Marius Bakke Date: Thu Sep 26 16:40:18 2019 +0200 gnu: WebKitGTK: Update to 2.26.1. * gnu/packages/webkit.scm (webkitgtk-2.24): Rename to ... (webkitgtk-2.26): ... this. Update to 2.26.1. [inputs]: Add BUBBLEWRAP, LIBSECCOMP, LIBWPE, WPEBACKEND-FDO, and XDG-DBUS-PROXY. * gnu/packages/gnome.scm (eolie, epiphany)[inputs]: Adjust for changed variable name. * gnu/packages/web-browsers.scm (next-gtk-webkit)[inputs]: Likewise. commit 72663b48221668f30b7bdcc502c299757a647156 Author: Marius Bakke Date: Wed Mar 13 15:00:03 2019 +0100 gnu: WebKitGTK: Update to 2.24.0. * gnu/packages/webkit.scm (webkitgtk-2.22): Rename to ... (webkitgtk-2.24): ... this. Update to 2.24.0. [inputs]: Add OPENJPEG. * gnu/packages/gnome.scm (eolie, epiphany)[inputs]: Adjust accordingly. * gnu/packages/web-browsers.scm (next-gtk-webkit)[inputs]: Likewise. commit 844cc6f876b8dcadf210398e68b3f3f824cb7144 Author: Mark H Weaver Date: Sat Sep 22 19:17:02 2018 -0400 gnu: webkitgtk: Add version 2.22.2. * gnu/packages/webkit.scm (webkitgtk-2.22): New variable. commit 86c9c0c11819f1e5ec6f821265a0492ddeaf83ee Author: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice Date: Wed Mar 14 10:24:08 2018 +0100 gnu: webkitgtk: Update to 2.20.0. * gnu/packages/webkit.scm (webkitgtk): Update to 2.20.0. [arguments]: (Re-)disable WOFF2 web font support. commit a54bf725fcb35052120d1111c6e82c951d4d7873 Author: Mark H Weaver Date: Fri Sep 15 13:10:56 2017 -0400 gnu: webkitgtk: Update to 2.18.0. * gnu/packages/webkit.scm (webkitgtk): Update to 2.18.0. [arguments]: Add -DUSE_GSTREAMER_GL=OFF to configure-flags. [inputs]: Add libtasn1. commit c38685524956a9451ce254da80f6819be53ead6c Author: Leo Famulari Date: Mon Mar 27 12:52:42 2017 -0400 gnu: webkitgtk: Update to 2.16.0. WebKitGTK+ 2.16.0 is the first stable release of WebKitGTK+ that uses libgcrypt instead of GnuTLS for some cryptographic functions: * gnu/packages/webkit.scm (webkitgtk): Update to 2.16.0. [inputs]: Replace gnutls with libgcrypt. -- Disinformation flourishes because many people care deeply about injustice but very few check the facts. Ask me about . From unknown Mon Jun 23 04:09:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#52073: remove Google support from GVFS? Resent-From: Mark H Weaver Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 22:20:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52073 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Leo Famulari , Liliana Marie Prikler Cc: 52073@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 52073-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52073.164098918410234 (code B ref 52073); Fri, 31 Dec 2021 22:20:02 +0000 Received: (at 52073) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Dec 2021 22:19:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57559 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n3QFU-0002ey-3Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 17:19:44 -0500 Received: from world.peace.net ([64.112.178.59]:43616) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n3QFS-0002ei-9O for 52073@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 17:19:42 -0500 Received: from mhw by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n3QFM-0000hX-91; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 17:19:36 -0500 From: Mark H Weaver In-Reply-To: <87czlcmnjd.fsf@netris.org> References: <20211124060015.2326faf1@riseup.net> <811028be0e5f02ae949a36795bb49e1e506cc75f.camel@gmail.com> <87czlcmnjd.fsf@netris.org> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 17:18:58 -0500 Message-ID: <87a6ggmn82.fsf@netris.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Earlier, I wrote: > In fact, if you look at the commit log over the last few years, you'll > see that 8 out of the last 10 non-micro updates of WebKitGTK have > required additional changes to the build recipe. Correction: it's actually 9 out of the last 10. At first glance, the following commit looked like a simple update, but in fact it required additional changes. Mark > commit 844cc6f876b8dcadf210398e68b3f3f824cb7144 > Author: Mark H Weaver > Date: Sat Sep 22 19:17:02 2018 -0400 > > gnu: webkitgtk: Add version 2.22.2. > > * gnu/packages/webkit.scm (webkitgtk-2.22): New variable. -- Disinformation flourishes because many people care deeply about injustice but very few check the facts. Ask me about .