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[72.10.133.135]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 66sm879204qkk.92.2021.11.19.19.58.09 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 19 Nov 2021 19:58:10 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Cournoyer To: bug-guix Subject: guix deploy with (with build-locally #f) needlessly syncs build artifacts Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 22:58:09 -0500 Message-ID: <87pmqveawe.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2607:f8b0:4864:20::834 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::834; envelope-from=maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com; helo=mail-qt1-x834.google.com X-Spam_score_int: 6 X-Spam_score: 0.6 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_20=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, PDS_HP_HELO_NORDNS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Hello, While configuring a machine setup for building the packages remotely, I observed that all substitutes were first retrieved on the local host. Since the intent is to deploy the remote machine and have it build the package itself, this is a wasteful use resources. The remote machine should fetch the or substitutes or package sources itself. 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[72.10.133.135]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v21sm1000701qta.0.2021.11.19.20.38.40 for <51991@debbugs.gnu.org> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 19 Nov 2021 20:38:40 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Cournoyer To: 51991@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#51991: guix deploy with (with build-locally #f) needlessly syncs build artifacts References: <87pmqveawe.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 23:38:39 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87pmqveawe.fsf@gmail.com> (Maxim Cournoyer's message of "Fri, 19 Nov 2021 22:58:09 -0500") Message-ID: <87lf1je90w.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 51991 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hello, Maxim Cournoyer writes: > Hello, > > While configuring a machine setup for building the packages remotely, I > observed that all substitutes were first retrieved on the local host. > > Since the intent is to deploy the remote machine and have it build the > package itself, this is a wasteful use resources. The remote machine > should fetch the or substitutes or package sources itself. I'm not sure the above is accurate because near the end of deploy it only transferred a handful of megabytes. I suspect it needed something to compute the derivations locally, perhaps grafts? For example, I have openjdk installed on the remote machine, and it was downloaded locally (more than 100 MiB download IIRC), but it was never transferred, if I followed correctly. Sorry to write confusing things; I'm a bit confused myself :-). 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The remote machine >> should fetch the or substitutes or package sources itself. > > I'm not sure the above is accurate because near the end of deploy it > only transferred a handful of megabytes. I suspect it needed something > to compute the derivations locally, perhaps grafts? For example, I have > openjdk installed on the remote machine, and it was downloaded locally > (more than 100 MiB download IIRC), but it was never transferred, if I > followed correctly. Yeah, I=E2=80=99m tempted to tag it as =E2=80=9Cnotabug=E2=80=9D. WDYT? Ludo=E2=80=99. 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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 51991-done Cc: 51991-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hello Ludovic, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Hi, > > Maxim Cournoyer skribis: > >> Maxim Cournoyer writes: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> While configuring a machine setup for building the packages remotely, I >>> observed that all substitutes were first retrieved on the local host. >>> >>> Since the intent is to deploy the remote machine and have it build the >>> package itself, this is a wasteful use resources. The remote machine >>> should fetch the or substitutes or package sources itself. >> >> I'm not sure the above is accurate because near the end of deploy it >> only transferred a handful of megabytes. I suspect it needed something >> to compute the derivations locally, perhaps grafts? For example, I have >> openjdk installed on the remote machine, and it was downloaded locally >> (more than 100 MiB download IIRC), but it was never transferred, if I >> followed correctly. > > Yeah, I=E2=80=99m tempted to tag it as =E2=80=9Cnotabug=E2=80=9D. WDYT? Fine by me, closing for now. Thank you! Maxim From unknown Fri Aug 15 03:56:15 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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